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Post by BethlehemSteel » Fri Sep 18, 2015 7:53 pm

Just prepare for it again

http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nfl-shutd ... 0698.html#

The movie is coming but the NFL tried to get out in front of this, but prob won't be able to

“People think that we’re blowing this out of proportion, that this is a very rare disease and that we’re sensationalizing it,” said Dr. Ann McKee, who runs the lab as part of a collaboration between the VA and BU. “My response is that where I sit, this is a very real disease. We have had no problem identifying it in hundreds of players.”


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Post by Legacy User » Fri Sep 18, 2015 8:05 pm

I am just wondering what the end result expected is for these people pushing this. I mean is their intent to end the NFL, or to just make them pay dearly to the point of ending the NFL. It is a high impact sport. That is also a volunteer sport. No amount of money in the world will take away the results of high speed collisions on a persons body for years. If that part of the NFL changes, then its no longer tackle football. Its two hand touch. Then you might as well start evaluating every other contact sport in the world as well. Boxing, MMA, etc. Its hard on the body and even as a child you can understand that and yet, most choose to take that risk. This all ends in my minds with a simple waiver that says, playing football is extremely hazardous to your health, you sign a contract with the NFL its at your own risk. Every player will get to sign the equivalent of a cigarette warning label before getting to play. Case closed.

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Post by Steelknife » Fri Sep 18, 2015 8:08 pm

I've been directly involved with the concussion litigation on the plaintiffs' side, and it has made me extraordinarily sympathetic to the issues.

There is a misconception that players sued because they got concussions. They sued because they were lied to about the long term risks of concussions.

I agree with Naelae. As long as there is a systematic, accurate, and thorough educational scheme in place to educate players on the dangers of concussions and head injuries, I'm fine with the violent game we have today.

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Post by Steelcody7 » Fri Sep 18, 2015 8:33 pm

SteelKnife wrote:I've been directly involved with the concussion litigation on the plaintiffs' side, and it has made me extraordinarily sympathetic to the issues.

There is a misconception that players sued because they got concussions. They sued because they were lied to about the long term risks of concussions.

I agree with Naelae. As long as there is a systematic, accurate, and thorough educational scheme in place to educate players on the dangers of concussions and head injuries, I'm fine with the violent game we have today.


Only a complete moron in today's world (the last 20 years) would think banging your head into people wouldn't have any lasting effects. These guys did everything they could to play pro football and were rewarded handsomely. Even in the 70's those guys were rock stars. Swimming in women, money, cars, etc.

It sucks that some of these guys ruined their brain. Especially those that played before we understood head injuries. I don't feel sorry for today's athlete's. Pay me that kind of cash and I'll take the risks.

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Post by Steelknife » Fri Sep 18, 2015 8:47 pm

Steelcody36 wrote:
SteelKnife wrote:I've been directly involved with the concussion litigation on the plaintiffs' side, and it has made me extraordinarily sympathetic to the issues.

There is a misconception that players sued because they got concussions. They sued because they were lied to about the long term risks of concussions.

I agree with Naelae. As long as there is a systematic, accurate, and thorough educational scheme in place to educate players on the dangers of concussions and head injuries, I'm fine with the violent game we have today.


Only a complete moron in today's world (the last 20 years) would think banging your head into people wouldn't have any lasting effects. These guys did everything they could to play pro football and were rewarded handsomely. Even in the 70's those guys were rock stars. Swimming in women, money, cars, etc.

It sucks that some of these guys ruined their brain. Especially those that played before we understood head injuries. I don't feel sorry for today's athlete's. Pay me that kind of cash and I'll take the risks.


They were told -- directly and through NFL funded studies -- that there would be no long term effects. It's not that they were operating in an information void and had to guess what would happen. The NFL filled that information void, and told them nothing would happen.

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Post by Legacy User » Fri Sep 18, 2015 8:56 pm

Also, many NFL players are what you might call, "complete morons."

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Post by Legacy User » Fri Sep 18, 2015 9:17 pm

Steelcody36 wrote:
SteelKnife wrote:I've been directly involved with the concussion litigation on the plaintiffs' side, and it has made me extraordinarily sympathetic to the issues.

There is a misconception that players sued because they got concussions. They sued because they were lied to about the long term risks of concussions.

I agree with Naelae. As long as there is a systematic, accurate, and thorough educational scheme in place to educate players on the dangers of concussions and head injuries, I'm fine with the violent game we have today.


Only a complete moron in today's world (the last 20 years) would think banging your head into people wouldn't have any lasting effects. These guys did everything they could to play pro football and were rewarded handsomely. Even in the 70's those guys were rock stars. Swimming in women, money, cars, etc.

It sucks that some of these guys ruined their brain. Especially those that played before we understood head injuries. I don't feel sorry for today's athlete's. Pay me that kind of cash and I'll take the risks.


Its over blown. They weren't going to use their brains anyway. Its isn't like the human race is missing out because Big Ben was going to develop warp drive. Fuckers should take an aspirin.

BTW, kid and drunken idiot fist fights, car accidents, hit by a baseball, slamming your head against the ground skiing. walking into framing on a construction site, that's gonna leave a mark type incidents, etc, shit sort of happens in life anyway.

I dont know if I have any respect for a man that hasn't had his brain jiggled around some.

Newton getting whacked on teh head with an apple!!!! AH HA GOTCHA!!!!!!!

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Post by RemoAZ » Fri Sep 18, 2015 10:16 pm

And if they were told there could be long term consequences? Every one of them still would have played. I'd bet the house on it.
Howard Griffith had to resort to chop-blocking him during the 1997 AFC Championship Game. An incredulous Kirkland asked Griffith, “Why do you have to use cheap tactics like chop-blocking?” Griffith replied “Why do you have to be a 300-pound linebacker?”

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Post by cop1211 » Sat Sep 19, 2015 1:09 am

Steelcody36 wrote:
SteelKnife wrote:I've been directly involved with the concussion litigation on the plaintiffs' side, and it has made me extraordinarily sympathetic to the issues.

There is a misconception that players sued because they got concussions. They sued because they were lied to about the long term risks of concussions.

I agree with Naelae. As long as there is a systematic, accurate, and thorough educational scheme in place to educate players on the dangers of concussions and head injuries, I'm fine with the violent game we have today.


Only a complete moron in today's world (the last 20 years) would think banging your head into people wouldn't have any lasting effects. These guys did everything they could to play pro football and were rewarded handsomely. Even in the 70's those guys were rock stars. Swimming in women, money, cars, etc.

It sucks that some of these guys ruined their brain. Especially those that played before we understood head injuries. I don't feel sorry for today's athlete's. Pay me that kind of cash and I'll take the risks.


Count me in. I'll trade my cop's salary.

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Post by Steelknife » Sat Sep 19, 2015 2:06 am

RemoAZ wrote:And if they were told there could be long term consequences? Every one of them still would have played. I'd bet the house on it.


How can you say that in light of the numerous young players retiring recently, including our very own Worilds?

It's definitely caused people to rethink playing.

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Post by RemoAZ » Sat Sep 19, 2015 2:27 am

Yeah after they made a shit ton of money. There are very few players that can do that. The vast majority have to play a number of years to make enough to walk away.
Howard Griffith had to resort to chop-blocking him during the 1997 AFC Championship Game. An incredulous Kirkland asked Griffith, “Why do you have to use cheap tactics like chop-blocking?” Griffith replied “Why do you have to be a 300-pound linebacker?”

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Post by Steelcody7 » Sat Sep 19, 2015 3:36 am

cop1211 wrote:
Steelcody36 wrote:
SteelKnife wrote:I've been directly involved with the concussion litigation on the plaintiffs' side, and it has made me extraordinarily sympathetic to the issues.

There is a misconception that players sued because they got concussions. They sued because they were lied to about the long term risks of concussions.

I agree with Naelae. As long as there is a systematic, accurate, and thorough educational scheme in place to educate players on the dangers of concussions and head injuries, I'm fine with the violent game we have today.


Only a complete moron in today's world (the last 20 years) would think banging your head into people wouldn't have any lasting effects. These guys did everything they could to play pro football and were rewarded handsomely. Even in the 70's those guys were rock stars. Swimming in women, money, cars, etc.

It sucks that some of these guys ruined their brain. Especially those that played before we understood head injuries. I don't feel sorry for today's athlete's. Pay me that kind of cash and I'll take the risks.


Count me in. I'll trade my cop's salary.


Come to think of it, I've taken a couple of shots to the head teaching the group I do, for next to nothing.

I wasn't worth shit as an athlete past HS though!


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