Looking Ahead to Denver - What are the Keys to the Game?

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Looking Ahead to Denver - What are the Keys to the Game?

Post by Steelers4Life » Sun Jan 10, 2016 11:31 pm

For the Steelers O, much will depend on the health of BB and AB. Would be nice to get DWill back as well. O-Line will need to keep whomever is behind Center clean. I can't recall how our OTs did when the Doncs visited Hines. IIRC, Gilbert did well but Villy may have struggled?

Defensively, is it better or worse for us that Pey-Pey is back as starter?

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Post by Joe Steeler Fan » Sun Jan 10, 2016 11:32 pm

The Key to the game is ...

Hope Ben can play and Landry Jones doesn't step foot on the field.
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Post by Legacy User » Sun Jan 10, 2016 11:35 pm

Joe Steeler Fan wrote:The Key to the game is ...

Hope Ben can play and Landry Jones doesn't step foot on the field.

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Post by Thrillsseeker » Sun Jan 10, 2016 11:36 pm

Joe Steeler Fan wrote:The Key to the game is ...

Hope Ben can play and Landry Jones doesn't step foot on the field.



^^^^This is step #1 for sure.

Have defense ball out like it did against Cinci. Continue to get the train rolling with a full head of steam.

Hope for good luck and or good modern medicine to help in the health department. We're gonna need it.

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Post by R_S » Sun Jan 10, 2016 11:39 pm

Hope Ben doesn't get driven into the ground on his right shoulder. If he does, it will be all over for that wing.

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Post by Jobu » Sun Jan 10, 2016 11:41 pm

Defensively, is it better or worse for us that Pey-Pey is back as starter?

Regardless of his arm, Peyton still has the ability to get his team into the right play...don't underestimate that.
I most certainly woud rather see Osweiler.

That said...if Ben, AB, DWill are good to go, I like our chances.

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Post by Kodiak » Sun Jan 10, 2016 11:43 pm

Make Peyton beat you over the top with his arm.
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Post by Stallworth16 » Sun Jan 10, 2016 11:48 pm

If Landry Jones does step foot on the field, there is a chance he will play well. He has shown that ability at times.

Having said that, We Need Ben. And hopefully Ben can get enough medical miracle this week to throw with full power.

Same goes for AB.
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Post by Kodiak » Sun Jan 10, 2016 11:49 pm

Stallworth16 wrote: And hopefully Ben can get enough medical miracle this week to throw with full power.


My concern if he took the needle is what kind of feel/touch would he have for making throws with a numb shoulder?
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Post by Donnie Brasco » Sun Jan 10, 2016 11:53 pm

I feel that cincy and Denver are very similar teams, I give a slight edge to Denver because of their cb play...cincy has better safeties. Similar gameplan in my mind- have to take the underneath stuff, hope Dwill can go

Defensively I feel the fact we made cincy one dimensional is being overlooked, teams usually gouge us on the ground. Have to limit Denver there too

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Post by Burghboy » Sun Jan 10, 2016 11:58 pm

Kill Tomlin wrote:For the Steelers O, much will depend on the health of BB and AB. Would be nice to get DWill back as well. O-Line will need to keep whomever is behind Center clean. I can't recall how our OTs did when the Doncs visited Hines. IIRC, Gilbert did well but Villy may have struggled?

Defensively, is it better or worse for us that Pey-Pey is back as starter?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gpOG9K02F_g


Don't remember if Ware even played but I vaguely remember seeing Von Miller's likeness on a milk carton

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Post by R_S » Mon Jan 11, 2016 12:17 am

Kodiak wrote:
Stallworth16 wrote: And hopefully Ben can get enough medical miracle this week to throw with full power.


My concern if he took the needle is what kind of feel/touch would he have for making throws with a numb shoulder?


corticosteroids don't numb the shoulder

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Post by steelclan » Mon Jan 11, 2016 12:35 am

The weather. If it is shitty Pey Pey will struggle.

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Post by bradshaw2ben » Mon Jan 11, 2016 1:28 am

the absolute key to the game is the mind game with peyton

1. show him one thing, give him another
2. bait him into throws he thinks are open but aren't
3. game his protection schemes
4. break him by forcing him to realize he doesn't have the code/answers to the test
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Post by Legacy User » Mon Jan 11, 2016 1:45 am

steelclan wrote:The weather. If it is shitty Pey Pey will struggle.


I know it's early, but no ominous weather forecast for next weekend in Denver. Mid 30s, partly cloudy, winds only 4 mph. 10% chance of precip

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Post by Kodiak » Mon Jan 11, 2016 2:27 am

steelclan wrote:The weather. If it is shitty Pey Pey will struggle.


I think bad weather could possibly favor DEN as they have a better defense and running game.

Assuming Ben is healthy, good weather probably matters more to PIT. Peyton doesn't have much of a vertical passing game any more, so the weather isn't going to have a huge impact on him.
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Post by Donnie Brasco » Mon Jan 11, 2016 2:29 am

bradshaw2ben wrote:the absolute key to the game is the mind game with peyton

1. show him one thing, give him another
2. bait him into throws he thinks are open but aren't
3. game his protection schemes
4. break him by forcing him to realize he doesn't have the code/answers to the test


See I feel he already knows the answers to the test, so it's going to be about pressure or perceived pressure

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Post by Legacy User » Mon Jan 11, 2016 2:37 am

Donnie Brasco wrote:
bradshaw2ben wrote:the absolute key to the game is the mind game with peyton

1. show him one thing, give him another
2. bait him into throws he thinks are open but aren't
3. game his protection schemes
4. break him by forcing him to realize he doesn't have the code/answers to the test


See I feel he already knows the answers to the test, so it's going to be about pressure or perceived pressure


Agreed...Steelers have to pressure Pey Pey. Make him uncomfortable and take away the short easy completions. NO 10 yard cushions and soft zone coverage!!

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Post by Havoc » Mon Jan 11, 2016 1:28 pm

Weather could be a factor (but the forecast sounds good) and now we don't know about health.

If Shazier and the rest of the LB's play close to the level they did in the wc game this team will have more ways they can win football games.

We attacked for 4 quarters with the passing game short to midrange in our rs win vs the broncos.
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Post by Legacy User » Mon Jan 11, 2016 1:37 pm

Watching that Denver game against San Diego - there was a striking difference in the pace of their offense between Osweiller and Manning.

Manning had the offense humming, I mean quick, go go go. He made the right calls at the right time. Even if he has no arm, that offense will be called to keep the defense on its heals. The Steelers must break this pace, they need to force negative plays on defense.

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Post by Legacy User » Mon Jan 11, 2016 1:47 pm

Let's hope Butler still has some things up his sleeve. Our OLBs were playing possessed. Dupree was shot out of a cannon and Jones/Harrison were destroying Whitworth.

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Post by Legacy User » Mon Jan 11, 2016 5:03 pm

Jobus Rum wrote:
Defensively, is it better or worse for us that Pey-Pey is back as starter?

Regardless of his arm, Peyton still has the ability to get his team into the right play...don't underestimate that.
I most certainly woud rather see Osweiler.

I've been wavering on this as well. Brock has played well in relief but his inexperience could lead him to make huge mistakes.

And Payton has a huge on-field presence and is extremely cerebral... but also tends to crumble in the playoffs and probably isn't fully healthy. Perhaps we get a few gifts because he's trying to make plays his body no longer can.

I think the biggest thing our team needs to focus on is not giving them any easy scores. First and foremost, this means an increased focus on tackling.

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Post by lifelongsteel » Mon Jan 11, 2016 5:17 pm

Ben needs to play 4 quarters.

Which means the offensive game plan will look a lot like last week's. Runs. Short stuff. Maybe something relatively deep on unexpected downs. I'm hoping that the D remains aggressive. I think the young guys are just more comfortable attacking.

Keys are the same as usual with this team.
- Ben: 1 or fewer picks
- D: create 2+ turnovers
- Martavis: make 1 "Alien" play

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Post by TTP » Mon Jan 11, 2016 5:36 pm

Besides the health of BR and Brown, the key is going to be Mike Mitchell. A lot of the noodle armed Manning's INTs have been floaters over the middle. There are going to be opportunities for Mitchell to get at least 2 picks in this game if he plays the ball rather than going for the kill shot.

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Post by Legacy User » Mon Jan 11, 2016 5:46 pm

Id agree Ben playing is single biggest factor. Steelers have very nearly 0 chance without him. So assuming that biggest factors for me are

OL. No mystery to me that's the only loss we have had in past five games was also worst offense of line showing.

QB. Again assuming Ben plays, stakes get higher he's gotta play at the higher level he is capable of.

D secondary. I think no matter what game it is a can always turn on turnovers and cheap points. So you can't say anything about turnovers obviously except their important to avoid. Defense can't give up big chunks of yards missed tackles that lead to breaking receivers for touchdowns in that type a thing.

Other than that there's any number of factors probably at least five that will contribute to who wins the game. And her will be tough for sure.

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Post by stillcajun » Mon Jan 11, 2016 6:01 pm

We need to lockdown middle of the field ala Cinci game with shorter cushions and tight coverage and we need to force Manning to take shots down the field where we can take advantage of his noodle arm. Pass rush needs to arrive w/ bad intentions and put pressure on him all day.

Above all we need Ben to be able to play.

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Post by Defense » Mon Jan 11, 2016 6:03 pm

Looking at the match up as simply as possible.

Our offense matches well with their defense.
Forget the long pass (other than 1 or 2 ) , run the ball and keep Denver Offense off the field.
Some misdirection would be very advantages to us, with short and middle range completions.

Defense is where the game will be won or lost.
Front line needs to pressure Manning all day long, and force him into bad decisions, hopefully turning the ball over.
He is not a threat to run, which plays well into our scheme, with Shazier being the X factor.

Denver doesn’t score a lot of points, so limiting their possessions greatly reduces a “shoot out” type game.

If special teams can provide good field position, then the odds favour the Steelers even more.

Gonna be a tough outing men !

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Post by Legacy User » Mon Jan 11, 2016 6:06 pm

Stop the run. Anderson and Hillman can be dangerous in Denver.

Make ball carriers regret touching the football. Their guys have lots of drops.

Stay out of 3rd and long.

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Post by Legacy User » Mon Jan 11, 2016 6:06 pm

We should also seriously consider covering Sanders to start the game unlike the last time we played them!! :)

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Post by lifelongsteel » Mon Jan 11, 2016 6:38 pm

IA Steel wrote:We should also seriously consider covering Sanders to start the game unlike the last time we played them!! :)


Right. And let's not blitz both outside corners on the same play

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