The Switzinator

[LakecrestSteeler]

Steelers’ Ryan Switzer on IG Live says he’s in the best shape of his life at 177 lbs: “I believe I will be one of the best slot receivers in the NFL….I have no doubt I’ll be up there and I’ll be talked about like Edelman is, like Welker was, like Jamison Crowder, Cole Beasley.”

— Brian Batko (@BrianBatko) July 20, 2020


KC must be super excited!

[Ice]

Can honestly say I could have lived the rest of my life quite happily without another one of these threads.

[Scunge]

I said last year that it looked as if he was too over weight, too muscle bound. He had no speed or quickness but even with the added weight, it didn't make him any better to break tackles , so what do you make of it all??

Now, he seems to realize that he has to slim down, gain back his speed or quickness but that was never really that good to begin with, didn't translate on the field, i don't care what his combine numbers might say.

You look at Diontae. Even though he was playing with an injury probably for most of the year, he still showed the electric moves, agility, change of direction to be a great punt returner and the moves to be a great WR.

Switz is a poser, plain and simple. That 5th WR needs to be a better overall special teams player, and Switzer does not measure up. Simply being a backup PR is not good enough. You need to be able to be a gunner or jammer too. Is Switzer going to be able to line up outside as a Jammer on punts and block/jam up a Matthew Slater? Is he going to be able to be a gunner and run down the field at top speed and force that punt returner to call for a fair catch?? No, I don't think Switzer can do any of that, he is merely a bad punt returner.

That 5th WR should be another Bey type, a bigger body who can play in more phases of the special teams.

Also, I am not convinced that we carry 6 WRs, I think they may carry more RBs, we will see.

[Kodiak]

Between Diontae and Whyte he's pretty much expendable as a return guy now. Oh, and we still have Cam Sutton in an emergency.

I also liked what I saw from Cain in spots (or maybe it was Tevin Jones), more so than anything I've seen from Switzer in many more snaps over 2 years.

The extra two roster spots might save Switzer's ass. But you already have JuJu, DJ, Washington, and Claypool.....I said I like both Cain and Jones over Switzer, and Johnnie Holton has the ST gunner locked down.

If you're not going to be able to dress Switzer because he's, at best, 6th on the depth chart because Holton is on ST....why waste a 7th receiver spot on him?

Eli Rogers is a better receiver than Switzer, and no one ever picked him up last year. Guarantee if Switzer will be waiting next to the phone if we need him

[K_C_]

[LakecrestSteeler]

Steelers’ Ryan Switzer on IG Live says he’s in the best shape of his life at 177 lbs: “I believe I will be one of the best slot receivers in the NFL….I have no doubt I’ll be up there and I’ll be talked about like Edelman is, like Welker was, like Jamison Crowder, Cole Beasley.”

— Brian Batko (@BrianBatko) July 20, 2020


KC must be super excited!

A + B = Switzinator

Two parts to the equation. He needs B and that is Ben. Check.

Now if he could go to the store and buy A he’d be in business.

Switz, barring injuries gets cut.

Just remember this...if he makes the team and is reasonably successful, Ben should be admitted to HOF on that credential alone!

Or maybe Duck and Mason are immediately enshrined in Can’ton Ohio for the Hall of Shame!

[Jobu]

Can honestly say I could have lived the rest of my life quite happily without another one of these threads.

Agreed.
Quick...someone start another COVID thread.

[Jobu]

Between Diontae and Whyte he's pretty much expendable as a return guy now. Oh, and we still have Cam Sutton in an emergency.

I also liked what I saw from Cain in spots (or maybe it was Tevin Jones), more so than anything I've seen from Switzer in many more snaps over 2 years.

The extra two roster spots might save Switzer's ass. But you already have JuJu, DJ, Washington, and Claypool.....I said I like both Cain and Jones over Switzer, and Johnnie Holton has the ST gunner locked down.

If you're not going to be able to dress Switzer because he's, at best, 6th on the depth chart because Holton is on ST....why waste a 7th receiver spot on him?

Eli Rogers is a better receiver than Switzer, and no one ever picked him up last year. Guarantee if Switzer will be waiting next to the phone if we need him

Holton and Jones are no longer with the Steelers.
I think Jones is with Dallas, and Holton is bagging groceries at the local Piggly Wiggly.

[Scunge]

Yeah, you beat me to it Jobu, they really don't have those Bey types on the roster right now.

Johnny Holton had nearly 300 special teams snaps, he was that Bey ST prototype player.

James Washington didn't play much STs, only had 29 snaps.

Tevin Jones only had 6 ST snaps last season.

Deon Cain had 0 ST snaps, he also had 0 snaps with Indy.

So, with no Holton there is a huge gap there that has to be filled. Who are the candidates?

Well, first let me say that Chase Claypool is a fearsome special teams player. I can easily seem him being a four phase special teams player. He will easily fill the void of Holton's departure and his 300 special teams snaps.

But who else may be in the running?

Deon Cain has nice size and speed, does he have the want to, the desire to be a good special teams player?? Doesn't appear to have much experience (any?) at special teams in any capacity, not even as a return man.

Amara Darboh was a former 3rd round pick of Seattle, I believe he was a late 3rd round comp pick, anyway, 6'2" 215 and he did play 159 special teams snaps for Seattle his rookie season and had 2 tackles. More of a possession type as a WR.

Saeed Blacknall An intriguing dark horse candidate, 6'2" 210, ran a 4.37 coming out, even 24 reps, just a stud athletically. Again, looks a lot like a Bey type if ever there was one. Can he play special teams? Saeed recently played in the XFL and did well. He most closely fills that Bey ST prototype who can also do damage as a deep threat WR.

I am partial to Blacknall and then Cain, but there is a need for this type of player at the bottom of the roster.

[Donnie Brasco]

What kind of ice cream is he bringing this year?

[Baltostiller]

Just as hey-bey stuck around forever since he was Tomlin's pet, Switz will stick around because Ben loves him. He will be on the final roster...Bank on it.

BTW, this in not my choice, just reality.

[Havoc]

I said last year that it looked as if he was too over weight, too muscle bound. He had no speed or quickness but even with the added weight, it didn't make him any better to break tackles , so what do you make of it all??

Now, he seems to realize that he has to slim down, gain back his speed or quickness but that was never really that good to begin with, didn't translate on the field, i don't care what his combine numbers might say.

You look at Diontae. Even though he was playing with an injury probably for most of the year, he still showed the electric moves, agility, change of direction to be a great punt returner and the moves to be a great WR.

Switz is a poser, plain and simple. That 5th WR needs to be a better overall special teams player, and Switzer does not measure up. Simply being a backup PR is not good enough. You need to be able to be a gunner or jammer too. Is Switzer going to be able to line up outside as a Jammer on punts and block/jam up a Matthew Slater? Is he going to be able to be a gunner and run down the field at top speed and force that punt returner to call for a fair catch?? No, I don't think Switzer can do any of that, he is merely a bad punt returner.

That 5th WR should be another Bey type, a bigger body who can play in more phases of the special teams.

Also, I am not convinced that we carry 6 WRs, I think they may carry more RBs, we will see.

Bey was pretty much ideal for his role here, never understood the bashing of him.

[Kodiak]

Also, I am not convinced that we carry 6 WRs, I think they may carry more RBs, we will see.

Looks like the 2 extra roster spots are actually practice squad - regular roster is still 53. But the new change is you can have up to 2 PS squad guys with any number of accrued seasons.

That's where Switzer belongs. I don't think he should get a hat, so then the roster spot should go to a player with potential you want to protect (someone like Cain). But I'm sure they'll dress Switzer as a 5th receiver to be their security blanket, vet depth at receiver (what good is it to know all the routes if you're just a mediocre slot guy?) and back-up returner.

Claypool, as far as stepping in for injury, is going to be limited with no preseason games and it's usually at least mid-year before a rookie receiver seems to contribute. DJ and JuJu can pretty much run the full tree, so you just need a back-up for Washington (and that's Cain). They also have some flexibility they haven't had in past years with Samuels - who does everything on offense Switzer can do only much better. And then Ebron and Vance.

So definitely an argument to only carry 5 receivers and maybe even only dress 4. It's going to be tough for any of the other jags to fight their way onto the roster. Based on who they have currently, it's Cain vs. Switzer for that 5th spot. I'd put Switzer on PS, and maybe one of the other jags if they flash something in practice.

[blu]

Also, I am not convinced that we carry 6 WRs, I think they may carry more RBs, we will see.

Looks like the 2 extra roster spots are actually practice squad - regular roster is still 53. But the new change is you can have up to 2 PS squad guys with any number of accrued seasons.

That's where Switzer belongs. I don't think he should get a hat, so then the roster spot should go to a player with potential you want to protect (someone like Cain). But I'm sure they'll dress Switzer as a 5th receiver to be their security blanket, vet depth at receiver (what good is it to know all the routes if you're just a mediocre slot guy?) and back-up returner.

Claypool, as far as stepping in for injury, is going to be limited with no preseason games and it's usually at least mid-year before a rookie receiver seems to contribute. DJ and JuJu can pretty much run the full tree, so you just need a back-up for Washington (and that's Cain). They also have some flexibility they haven't had in past years with Samuels - who does everything on offense Switzer can do only much better. And then Ebron and Vance.

So definitely an argument to only carry 5 receivers and maybe even only dress 4. It's going to be tough for any of the other jags to fight their way onto the roster. Based on who they have currently, it's Cain vs. Switzer for that 5th spot. I'd put Switzer on PS, and maybe one of the other jags if they flash something in practice.

Why would the team waste a PS spot on Switzer? If a player is needed on the roster, wouldn't anyone on any teams' PS be better than him? Because Switzer know the playbook? That fact doesn't matter if the man is useless. Switzer can be in the best shape of his career & will still be useless.

[Ice]

Shitz isn't eligible to be on the PS. Whether that means practice squad, due to NFL rules, or Pittsburgh Steelers, because he blows, the answer is the same.

[Thrillsseeker]

Wheres the Brady Quinn lovers?

[Ice]

Hopefully Ron's barbershop survived the shutdown.

[SteelerDayTrader]

switzer sucks as a Steeler.....i hope he is cut

JuJu
Claypool
DJ
Washington
Blacknall
Cain
Henderson
Darboh

I wanna see 6 WRs on the roster....please let switzer get the axe

[Kodiak]

Shitz isn't eligible to be on the PS. Whether that means practice squad, due to NFL rules, or Pittsburgh Steelers, because he blows, the answer is the same.

New rules....Switzer is PS eligible. Seems like the NFL decided a veteran "reserve" was in everyone's best interest. Tailor made for Switzer, but Tomlin's band of assholes will most likely put him on the roster.

Damn, he DOES have the Edelman body....but the drugs still aren't nearly good enough. BTW, he looks smaller now than he did in 2015 (not to mention a shocking rate of hair loss)/

[Thrillsseeker]

Hopefully Ron's barbershop survived the shutdown.

[955876]

I like how he had to stand on the mats to help look taller.

Hopefully Tomlin finally wakes up and realizes this guy brings next to nothing on the field.

Cain showed in like 4 snaps how much more of an asset he is as the 5th or 6th WR.

Cain wouldn’t be a complete joke if having to spot start somewhere. Say the same about Switz???

[Kodiak]

Cain wouldn’t be a complete joke if having to spot start somewhere. Say the same about Switz???

Tomlin has always been a fan of guys who could play multiple positions badly.

[955876]

This is actually the #1 thing I’m watching in terms of roster this year.

Switz is clearly not the best option as a WR. It’s not even close.

Switz is clearly not the best option for punt or kick return. Those who are slow with no wiggle need not apply here. It’s like a dude wanting to be a server at Hooters.

We have multiple options who are much better than Switz for both those units.

What could he possibly do on kick coverage so valuable it outweighs the other two?

I don’t see it. Hopefully Tomlin stops seeing it too.

[Jobu]

Cain wouldn’t be a complete joke if having to spot start somewhere. Say the same about Switz???

Tomlin has always been a fan of guys who could play multiple positions badly.

Explain McCullers...he “plays” Just one position badly.
Complain about Chick...he’s gone.
Complain about Dirty Red...gone.
Switzer, sure. He may be on his last leg, if someone can knock him off the roster
McCullers has done nothing in his 6 seasons...NOTH—THING!...yet he gets a free pass. This turd has been a black and gold paper weight for six years, yet crickets on his roster spot.
Where’s the McCullers outrage?

[955876]

Most here could rattle off several players on the team or could make the team at WR or kick return that are clearly better than Switz.

Who are those players at NT now or in recent past?

I can’t think of any off hand.

[Jobu]

Most here could rattle off several players on the team or could make the team at WR or kick return that are clearly better than Switz.

Who are those players at NT now or in recent past?

I can’t think of any off hand.

McCullers is so fucking bad that when they lose Hargrave, they move and trade for players that aren’t even true NTs to put ahead of him on the depth chart.
I don’t care what the opinions of Switzer are. Explain to me why MCCullers, a guy that has made zero impact on this team in six seasons, continually gets a free pass from the fanboys.

[Kodiak]

Explain to me why MCCullers, a guy that has made zero impact on this team in six seasons, continually gets a free pass from the fanboys.

He's been criticized plenty. But unlike Switzer, McCullers has actually made a few plays. He's on the team for the short-yardage big package, and he's had a few key stops.

Unlike Switzer, he's not entirely useless.

[Jobu]

Explain to me why MCCullers, a guy that has made zero impact on this team in six seasons, continually gets a free pass from the fanboys.

He's been criticized plenty. But unlike Switzer, McCullers has actually made a few plays. He's on the team for the short-yardage big package, and he's had a few key stops.

Unlike Switzer, he's not entirely useless.

He’s useless, but nice spin. He’s done nothing. Big fat load of crap.
At least Switzer is trying to get better.

[955876]

I don’t care what the opinions of Switzer are. Explain to me why MCCullers, a guy that has made zero impact on this team in six seasons, continually gets a free pass from the fanboys.

I suppose it would be because there hasn’t been a player X, Y, or Z in camp or on the team that “fanboys” could point to and say that dude should be on roster instead of McCullers.

Seems your complaint should be directed toward those that buy the groceries and cook the meal rather than wondering if the people that ate it thought it tasted good.

Like Kodiak said, there have been gripes about the guy. Problem has been anyone the team has brought in at the position has been even hotter garbage.

Unless I’m missing some stud Dline prospects we’ve let walk.

And that is where most of the Switz gripes come in. He wasn’t picked on as much when first brought in.

People bitch now because they’ve seen what he brings to the table (or lack thereof) and know there is already better options on team.

Next time Tombert cuts a NT prospect with upside in favor of McCullers start a thread and I’m sure there will be plenty bitching.

Myself included.

[Kodiak]

He’s useless, but nice spin. He’s done nothing. Big fat load of crap.
At least Switzer is trying to get better.

Heyward just praised McCullers for the work he's putting in. Switzer can try as hard as he wants, but he can't change the fact he lacks NFL size and athleticism.

And, LMAO, did you really just give Switzer a participation trophy?!?