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Last playoff win

Post by Jizz Mop » Thu Feb 04, 2021 5:13 pm

Here it is

Enjoy

Seems just like yesterday....kidding, it was 4 years ago

https://www.pro-football-reference.com/ ... 150kan.htm



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Post by punum123 » Thu Feb 04, 2021 5:22 pm

I’m still trying to figure out how we lost to the browns...did that really happen?

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Post by Jizz Mop » Thu Feb 04, 2021 5:22 pm

punum123 wrote:
Thu Feb 04, 2021 5:22 pm
I’m still trying to figure out how we lost to the browns...did that really happen?
It did. Yes.

Don’t worry...unleashing hell next season to make up for that loss.

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Post by Mick » Thu Feb 04, 2021 6:06 pm

punum123 wrote:
Thu Feb 04, 2021 5:22 pm
I’m still trying to figure out how we lost to the browns...did that really happen?
https://www.pro-football-reference.com/ ... team_stats

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Post by 955876 » Thu Feb 04, 2021 6:50 pm

Jizz Mop wrote:
Thu Feb 04, 2021 5:22 pm
punum123 wrote:
Thu Feb 04, 2021 5:22 pm
I’m still trying to figure out how we lost to the browns...did that really happen?
It did. Yes.

Don’t worry...unleashing hell next season to make up for that loss.
Plus, we’ve replaced the underperforming coaches on staff with their assistants that were also part of that underperforming staff. So making the appropriate moves.

Besides, that “unleash hell” comment from Tomlin was always taken out of context.

When you realize that he meant December is the time to unleash hell on the fan base then it all makes perfect sense. Mission accomplished & see you next year.

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Post by Obviously » Thu Feb 04, 2021 8:15 pm

punum123 wrote:
Thu Feb 04, 2021 5:22 pm
I’m still trying to figure out how we lost to the browns...did that really happen?
Here's the thing I still don't get. The week before Cleveland is fighting for their playoff lives the week before, at home, before COVID took out their head coach, and against Mason Rudolph and other Steeler scrubs. They eek out a two-point victory because the Steelers fail on a two-point conversion.

The following week, in Pittsburgh, led by their special teams coordinator, against Ben Roethlisberger and all starters (IR exceptions of course), they crush the Steelers 48-37.

Okay, I do get it ----> BECAUSE TOMLIN!!!!
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Post by JackLambert58 » Thu Feb 04, 2021 8:19 pm

Jizz Mop wrote:
Thu Feb 04, 2021 5:13 pm
Here it is

Enjoy

Seems just like yesterday....kidding, it was 4 years ago

https://www.pro-football-reference.com/ ... 150kan.htm
The good news for me in light of this win, I am offered a ticket to the AFCCG vs. Patriots in Foxboro the following week.

The bad news is that I show up for that game, but the Steelers don't.
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Post by K_C_ » Thu Feb 04, 2021 8:19 pm

Obviously wrote:
Thu Feb 04, 2021 8:15 pm
punum123 wrote:
Thu Feb 04, 2021 5:22 pm
I’m still trying to figure out how we lost to the browns...did that really happen?
Here's the thing I still don't get. The week before Cleveland is fighting for their playoff lives the week before, at home, before COVID took out their head coach, and against Mason Rudolph and other Steeler scrubs. They eek out a two-point victory because the Steelers fail on a two-point conversion.

The following week, in Pittsburgh, led by their special teams coordinator, against Ben Roethlisberger and all starters (IR exceptions of course), they crush the Steelers 48-37.

Okay, I do get it ----> BECAUSE TOMLIN!!!!
Well, Mason and the Steelers turned it over only once.

A terrible Mason INT he should have gotten away with if the refs would have seen him literally get punched in the face right after he made that bad throw.

How many turnovers did Ben and the offense have the very next week? 5 I believe?

There's your answer.
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Post by Jobu » Thu Feb 04, 2021 8:33 pm

K_C_ wrote:
Thu Feb 04, 2021 8:19 pm
Obviously wrote:
Thu Feb 04, 2021 8:15 pm
punum123 wrote:
Thu Feb 04, 2021 5:22 pm
I’m still trying to figure out how we lost to the browns...did that really happen?
Here's the thing I still don't get. The week before Cleveland is fighting for their playoff lives the week before, at home, before COVID took out their head coach, and against Mason Rudolph and other Steeler scrubs. They eek out a two-point victory because the Steelers fail on a two-point conversion.

The following week, in Pittsburgh, led by their special teams coordinator, against Ben Roethlisberger and all starters (IR exceptions of course), they crush the Steelers 48-37.

Okay, I do get it ----> BECAUSE TOMLIN!!!!
Well, Mason and the Steelers turned it over only once.

A terrible Mason INT he should have gotten away with if the refs would have seen him literally get punched in the face right after he made that bad throw.

How many turnovers did Ben and the offense have the very next week? 5 I believe?

There's your answer.
Yep 5 turnovers...to none for the Browns. That’s a loss pretty much every time. I don’t care who you’re playing.

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Post by punum123 » Sun Feb 07, 2021 3:25 am

I was talking to a relative who lives in Cleveland...life long Browns fan....he explained it as an Epic win for the browns...
His analogies...Like Boston finally beating the Yankees in the post season....like Buster Douglas knocking out Tyson. It was that big for Cleveland.

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Post by Jobu » Sun Feb 07, 2021 5:49 am

punum123 wrote:
Sun Feb 07, 2021 3:25 am
I was talking to a relative who lives in Cleveland...life long Browns fan....he explained it as an Epic win for the browns...
His analogies...Like Boston finally beating the Yankees in the post season....like Buster Douglas knocking out Tyson. It was that big for Cleveland.
Yep...pretty much how most of the Browns fans I know feel too. They’re still ecstatic about it...dont really even care that they lost to Chad Henne the following week. :lol: :lol: :lol:

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Post by Duce318 » Mon Feb 08, 2021 2:26 pm

How on earth did we limit Tyreek Hill to 4 for 27 in this game? Didn't we have Cockrell and Burns at the corners?? :shock:

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Post by Professor Half Wit » Mon Feb 08, 2021 3:08 pm

Jobu wrote:
Sun Feb 07, 2021 5:49 am
punum123 wrote:
Sun Feb 07, 2021 3:25 am
I was talking to a relative who lives in Cleveland...life long Browns fan....he explained it as an Epic win for the browns...
His analogies...Like Boston finally beating the Yankees in the post season....like Buster Douglas knocking out Tyson. It was that big for Cleveland.
Yep...pretty much how most of the Browns fans I know feel too. They’re still ecstatic about it...dont really even care that they lost to Chad Henne the following week. :lol: :lol: :lol:
No different than the Steelers fans after Steelers beating Brady's Pats. Except it never happened when it mattered. Cleveland finally slayed its dragon. Steelers never did with Ben and Tomlin.
“Being a fan is fine, but there is a line you can cross that makes it really unhealthy,” said Ken Yeager, PhD, a mental health expert in the department of psychiatry at The Ohio State University Wexner Medical Center.

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Post by jeemie » Mon Feb 08, 2021 3:12 pm

K_C_ wrote:
Thu Feb 04, 2021 8:19 pm
Obviously wrote:
Thu Feb 04, 2021 8:15 pm
punum123 wrote:
Thu Feb 04, 2021 5:22 pm
I’m still trying to figure out how we lost to the browns...did that really happen?
Here's the thing I still don't get. The week before Cleveland is fighting for their playoff lives the week before, at home, before COVID took out their head coach, and against Mason Rudolph and other Steeler scrubs. They eek out a two-point victory because the Steelers fail on a two-point conversion.

The following week, in Pittsburgh, led by their special teams coordinator, against Ben Roethlisberger and all starters (IR exceptions of course), they crush the Steelers 48-37.

Okay, I do get it ----> BECAUSE TOMLIN!!!!
Well, Mason and the Steelers turned it over only once.

A terrible Mason INT he should have gotten away with if the refs would have seen him literally get punched in the face right after he made that bad throw.

How many turnovers did Ben and the offense have the very next week? 5 I believe?

There's your answer.
As I pointed out elsewhere, the offense was more varied and complete in the one game with Mason under center than it was all season under Ben.
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Post by K_C_ » Mon Feb 08, 2021 3:16 pm

jeemie wrote:
Mon Feb 08, 2021 3:12 pm
K_C_ wrote:
Thu Feb 04, 2021 8:19 pm
Obviously wrote:
Thu Feb 04, 2021 8:15 pm


Here's the thing I still don't get. The week before Cleveland is fighting for their playoff lives the week before, at home, before COVID took out their head coach, and against Mason Rudolph and other Steeler scrubs. They eek out a two-point victory because the Steelers fail on a two-point conversion.

The following week, in Pittsburgh, led by their special teams coordinator, against Ben Roethlisberger and all starters (IR exceptions of course), they crush the Steelers 48-37.

Okay, I do get it ----> BECAUSE TOMLIN!!!!
Well, Mason and the Steelers turned it over only once.

A terrible Mason INT he should have gotten away with if the refs would have seen him literally get punched in the face right after he made that bad throw.

How many turnovers did Ben and the offense have the very next week? 5 I believe?

There's your answer.
As I pointed out elsewhere, the offense was more varied and complete in the one game with Mason under center than it was all season under Ben.
Yep.

Mason isn't the long term answer, obviously but he might make a nice bridge to the next guy.

Sadly, Ben is no longer the answer also and it's time to prioritizing finding the next guy.

ASAP.
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Post by Mick » Mon Feb 08, 2021 5:07 pm

Mason is an interesting option for a ‘bridge to the next guy’ in the sense that he guarantees a high pick. That’s about the best i can say about that him.

I do have the impression that Ben has been telegraphing a lot of things (run/pass), and that we can partly make up for a loss of talent at QB by just sucking less at that, but fundamentally Rudolph is not remotely a top 50 QB in this league and there’s no way we can’t beg someone else for their backup or similar to at least give our roster a chance each week.

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Post by K_C_ » Mon Feb 08, 2021 5:28 pm

Mick wrote:
Mon Feb 08, 2021 5:07 pm
Mason is an interesting option for a ‘bridge to the next guy’ in the sense that he guarantees a high pick. That’s about the best i can say about that him.

I do have the impression that Ben has been telegraphing a lot of things (run/pass), and that we can partly make up for a loss of talent at QB by just sucking less at that, but fundamentally Rudolph is not remotely a top 50 QB in this league and there’s no way we can’t beg someone else for their backup or similar to at least give our roster a chance each week.
Mason showed a lot of maturity is almost beating a desperate Browns team, on the road, with a shit ton of Steelers stars (on both sides of the ball) sitting out.

Had they not taken the ball out of his hands on numerous occasions to give Dobbs running opportunities (why they didn't let Dobbs pass, I'll never fucking know) normally right after Mason hit on big plays, he might have put up more points.

Rudolph might be rounding into a quality back up QB. The offense looked very good with him at QB. We ran better than we had in weeks and he threw some wonderful deep balls.

...and he moves about the same as Ben now. Both are basically statues.

I'm not sure we'd lose a lot with Mason on the field at this point and Ben on the sidelines.
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Post by jeemie » Mon Feb 08, 2021 5:32 pm

Mason’s deep ball in the Browns’ game was as on point from a QB as I have seen in a while.

He can’t gun it the way a QB needs to be truly a franchise player, but the touch he showed on those passes was a thing of beauty.
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Post by Mick » Mon Feb 08, 2021 5:58 pm

K_C_ wrote:
Mon Feb 08, 2021 5:28 pm
Mick wrote:
Mon Feb 08, 2021 5:07 pm
Mason is an interesting option for a ‘bridge to the next guy’ in the sense that he guarantees a high pick. That’s about the best i can say about that him.

I do have the impression that Ben has been telegraphing a lot of things (run/pass), and that we can partly make up for a loss of talent at QB by just sucking less at that, but fundamentally Rudolph is not remotely a top 50 QB in this league and there’s no way we can’t beg someone else for their backup or similar to at least give our roster a chance each week.
Mason showed a lot of maturity is almost beating a desperate Browns team, on the road, with a shit ton of Steelers stars (on both sides of the ball) sitting out.

Had they not taken the ball out of his hands on numerous occasions to give Dobbs running opportunities (why they didn't let Dobbs pass, I'll never fucking know) normally right after Mason hit on big plays, he might have put up more points.

Rudolph might be rounding into a quality back up QB. The offense looked very good with him at QB. We ran better than we had in weeks and he threw some wonderful deep balls.

...and he moves about the same as Ben now. Both are basically statues.

I'm not sure we'd lose a lot with Mason on the field at this point and Ben on the sidelines.
22 points against a below average defense being the case for rudolph pretty much covers it for the case against him as well.

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Post by K_C_ » Mon Feb 08, 2021 6:08 pm

Mick wrote:
Mon Feb 08, 2021 5:58 pm
K_C_ wrote:
Mon Feb 08, 2021 5:28 pm
Mick wrote:
Mon Feb 08, 2021 5:07 pm
Mason is an interesting option for a ‘bridge to the next guy’ in the sense that he guarantees a high pick. That’s about the best i can say about that him.

I do have the impression that Ben has been telegraphing a lot of things (run/pass), and that we can partly make up for a loss of talent at QB by just sucking less at that, but fundamentally Rudolph is not remotely a top 50 QB in this league and there’s no way we can’t beg someone else for their backup or similar to at least give our roster a chance each week.
Mason showed a lot of maturity is almost beating a desperate Browns team, on the road, with a shit ton of Steelers stars (on both sides of the ball) sitting out.

Had they not taken the ball out of his hands on numerous occasions to give Dobbs running opportunities (why they didn't let Dobbs pass, I'll never fucking know) normally right after Mason hit on big plays, he might have put up more points.

Rudolph might be rounding into a quality back up QB. The offense looked very good with him at QB. We ran better than we had in weeks and he threw some wonderful deep balls.

...and he moves about the same as Ben now. Both are basically statues.

I'm not sure we'd lose a lot with Mason on the field at this point and Ben on the sidelines.
22 points against a below average defense being the case for rudolph pretty much covers it for the case against him as well.
They took him off the field numerous times so Dobbs could run.

...and Mason didn't throw 4 picks.

....and Mason had his team in a position to tie the game with a 2 point attempt late in the game.

On the road. Missing a shitload of stars on both sides of the ball. Against a team that had to win to reach the playoffs.

Sorry, he looked better that day than Roethlisberger looked one week later, so if you're saying Rudolph sucks....what does that say about Ben's performance one week later?
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Post by Ice » Mon Feb 08, 2021 7:02 pm

I'm saying Rudolph sucks, but that's based on the body of work to this point. He looked better against Cleveland than I expected, but that wasn't a high bar not to trip over.
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Post by Mick » Mon Feb 08, 2021 8:44 pm

K_C_ wrote:
Mon Feb 08, 2021 6:08 pm

They took him off the field numerous times so Dobbs could run.

...and Mason didn't throw 4 picks.

....and Mason had his team in a position to tie the game with a 2 point attempt late in the game.

On the road. Missing a shitload of stars on both sides of the ball. Against a team that had to win to reach the playoffs.

Sorry, he looked better that day than Roethlisberger looked one week later, so if you're saying Rudolph sucks....what does that say about Ben's performance one week later?
i...think it’s generally bad when you throw 4 first half interceptions?

Boatload of stars? Rudolph was without pouncey, who was probably the worst player on the field the next week (which was a high/low bar), and had Dotson instead of Feiler, and most people think Dotson was better all year. Juju/claypool/johnson/washington/mcdonald/connor all played.

If you want to point to that game, and say Rudolph has a chance to be legit #2 QB in the NFL, i disagree, but i totally can understand. If you are looking at that and arguing that handing the offense over to Rudolph as starting QB gives us our best chance to win a superbowl in the next two years, you crazy.

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Post by K_C_ » Mon Feb 08, 2021 9:11 pm

Mick wrote:
Mon Feb 08, 2021 8:44 pm
K_C_ wrote:
Mon Feb 08, 2021 6:08 pm

They took him off the field numerous times so Dobbs could run.

...and Mason didn't throw 4 picks.

....and Mason had his team in a position to tie the game with a 2 point attempt late in the game.

On the road. Missing a shitload of stars on both sides of the ball. Against a team that had to win to reach the playoffs.

Sorry, he looked better that day than Roethlisberger looked one week later, so if you're saying Rudolph sucks....what does that say about Ben's performance one week later?
i...think it’s generally bad when you throw 4 first half interceptions?

Boatload of stars? Rudolph was without pouncey, who was probably the worst player on the field the next week (which was a high/low bar), and had Dotson instead of Feiler, and most people think Dotson was better all year. Juju/claypool/johnson/washington/mcdonald/connor all played.

If you want to point to that game, and say Rudolph has a chance to be legit #2 QB in the NFL, i disagree, but i totally can understand. If you are looking at that and arguing that handing the offense over to Rudolph as starting QB gives us our best chance to win a superbowl in the next two years, you crazy.
I've repeatedly said Mason isn't the long term answer to replacing Roethlisberger, only that he would make a good bridge to the next guy and could end up being a good #2..

But Rudolph showed a lot of improvement in that one Cleveland game and oh yes, I'm most certainly pointing to that game.

Ben played the exact same team one week later...and again made too many mistakes.

Just don't be surprised that if Mason is the bridge QB in 2 years once Roethlisberger is hopefully enjoying retirement, that he might be better than expected.
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