I’m not sure what you mean by the Connor Heyward dog and pony show but CH has been a very solid add. Might achieve clutch status soon if he keeps goingJobu wrote: ↑Sat Apr 29, 2023 2:24 pmIdeally, drafting Washington puts an end to the Conner Heyward dog and pony show, but we all know that isn’t going to happen.jewelsongs wrote: ↑Sat Apr 29, 2023 2:07 pmConcerning Washington, wouldn't you rather have him blocking and catching the occasional pass over Gentry (who will make a great 3rd TE). I love this pick.
3 93 Darnell Washington TE
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bradshaw2ben wrote: ↑Sat Apr 29, 2023 2:57 pmMultiple personnel groupings
Say it with me because it should be this teams mantra
Keeps guys fresh and keep the defense off balance
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I agree, he has some nice intangibles...
Plus... how much did they use a FB.
Hell....3rd and 1 or at goal...start working in Montrvis Adam's or another quick lineman
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Heyward may not be the full time fullback yet.
Already looks the part with the Hawkeyes uni onFormer #Iowa FB Monte Pottebaum is signing with the #Steelers as an undrafted free agent.
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If you can just throw the ball above the crossbar and let him go up and get it he is worth it just for RZ.franco32 wrote: ↑Sat Apr 29, 2023 12:43 pmAt 93 I can live with this, but I have reservations. The knee is one thing on a tall player like that. But, also, his tape just doesn't reflect that combine performance. He should be able to run every route if he really had that athleticism in pads and yet he is VERY limited in the routes he can run.
I have no doubt he is a supreme run blocker and his frame is freakish. He'll help our rock pounding orgy. But, we'll have to see if he can really threaten defenses when they know his route tree is limited.
Anything he brings to the pass catching game in any other facet is just a bonus.
12 personnel with Muuth & Washington forces D to play big personnel. Then you spread out the O and make big guys cover space or if they stay base then you line up tight and pound some #22 at the slot CB and get this kind of thing.

I cannot think of a single DB that wants to see Harris repeatedly during a game one v one.
13 personnel with those 2 and Heyward could be interesting in the RZ and short yardage as well plus Pickens on the outside.
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Combine cut up of Washington. He obliterates the blocking sled.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sks7xuqZ584
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sks7xuqZ584
When gentry was signed everybody accepted the fact the steelers would skip a TE in this draft. But this dude is a physical freak. Aside from STD, weren't there others here that thought he was worth a pick?stillthere wrote: ↑Sun Apr 30, 2023 5:52 amCombine cut up of Washington. He obliterates the blocking sled.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sks7xuqZ584
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I went to high school with his dad and am a lifelong Hawkeyes fan. This kid hits like a Mack truck. LOVE it!stillthere wrote: ↑Sun Apr 30, 2023 4:52 amHeyward may not be the full time fullback yet.Already looks the part with the Hawkeyes uni onFormer #Iowa FB Monte Pottebaum is signing with the #Steelers as an undrafted free agent.
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i don’t think anyone had him outside their top 50.COR-TEN wrote: ↑Sun Apr 30, 2023 10:59 amWhen gentry was signed everybody accepted the fact the steelers would skip a TE in this draft. But this dude is a physical freak. Aside from STD, weren't there others here that thought he was worth a pick?stillthere wrote: ↑Sun Apr 30, 2023 5:52 amCombine cut up of Washington. He obliterates the blocking sled.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sks7xuqZ584
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I’m in the minority that would have taken him at 1.17 and sprint to the podium at 2.32. In hindsight, the Kahn Artist played it right. Could not be more ecstatic with the pick. Your range is basically Marcedes Lewis (floor) and Gronk 2.0 (ceiling). Unless there is significant risk from the medical this is the steal of the draft.COR-TEN wrote: ↑Sun Apr 30, 2023 10:59 amWhen gentry was signed everybody accepted the fact the steelers would skip a TE in this draft. But this dude is a physical freak. Aside from STD, weren't there others here that thought he was worth a pick?stillthere wrote: ↑Sun Apr 30, 2023 5:52 amCombine cut up of Washington. He obliterates the blocking sled.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sks7xuqZ584
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Seriously, if Washington has the exact same career path as Marcedes Lewis then this is a grand slam of a pick. If he only emulates half of Lewis' career it is still a home run maybe a 2 run shot.Smashmouth21 wrote: ↑Sun Apr 30, 2023 4:03 pmI’m in the minority that would have taken him at 1.17 and sprint to the podium at 2.32. In hindsight, the Kahn Artist played it right. Could not be more ecstatic with the pick. Your range is basically Marcedes Lewis (floor) and Gronk 2.0 (ceiling). Unless there is significant risk from the medical this is the steal of the draft.COR-TEN wrote: ↑Sun Apr 30, 2023 10:59 amWhen gentry was signed everybody accepted the fact the steelers would skip a TE in this draft. But this dude is a physical freak. Aside from STD, weren't there others here that thought he was worth a pick?stillthere wrote: ↑Sun Apr 30, 2023 5:52 amCombine cut up of Washington. He obliterates the blocking sled.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sks7xuqZ584
It's a bit strange seeing so much love for Mercedes Lewis on here.
Don't get me wrong, getting that level of production from a late 3rd rounder would be awesome. But you know who bested Lewis' career highs in receptions and yardage last year? Pat Freiermuth.
Don't get me wrong, getting that level of production from a late 3rd rounder would be awesome. But you know who bested Lewis' career highs in receptions and yardage last year? Pat Freiermuth.
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I am strictly talking about his ability to block and that is why he is still in the league as a TE at 38 years of age. When I get a chance I will look up the running numbers on teams he has been on. I would be willing to bet the majority of them were in the top half of the league if not better. He was a much bigger threat in the passing game at UCLA and a bit when he first got to Jax. He has been a 6th O-lineman ever since.
He played on crap Jaguars teams for most of his career, so I doubt team stats show up well.stillthere wrote: ↑Sun Apr 30, 2023 8:28 pmI am strictly talking about his ability to block and that is why he is still in the league as a TE at 38 years of age. When I get a chance I will look up the running numbers on teams he has been on. I would be willing to bet the majority of them were in the top half of the league if not better. He was a much bigger threat in the passing game at UCLA and a bit when he first got to Jax. He has been a 6th O-lineman ever since.
My point though is that getting a player like that is fine at 92. At 17? No thanks
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My point is would you take Gronk at 17? Yeah, I bet. How about halfway in between? I like the odds.Pabst wrote: ↑Mon May 01, 2023 1:43 amHe played on crap Jaguars teams for most of his career, so I doubt team stats show up well.stillthere wrote: ↑Sun Apr 30, 2023 8:28 pmI am strictly talking about his ability to block and that is why he is still in the league as a TE at 38 years of age. When I get a chance I will look up the running numbers on teams he has been on. I would be willing to bet the majority of them were in the top half of the league if not better. He was a much bigger threat in the passing game at UCLA and a bit when he first got to Jax. He has been a 6th O-lineman ever since.
My point though is that getting a player like that is fine at 92. At 17? No thanks
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^^^^^^ Hater ^^^^^^^^Pabst wrote: ↑Mon May 01, 2023 1:43 amHe played on crap Jaguars teams for most of his career, so I doubt team stats show up well.stillthere wrote: ↑Sun Apr 30, 2023 8:28 pmI am strictly talking about his ability to block and that is why he is still in the league as a TE at 38 years of age. When I get a chance I will look up the running numbers on teams he has been on. I would be willing to bet the majority of them were in the top half of the league if not better. He was a much bigger threat in the passing game at UCLA and a bit when he first got to Jax. He has been a 6th O-lineman ever since.
My point though is that getting a player like that is fine at 92. At 17? No thanks
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Smashmouth21 wrote: ↑Mon May 01, 2023 1:46 amMy point is would you take Gronk at 17? Yeah, I bet. How about halfway in between? I like the odds.Pabst wrote: ↑Mon May 01, 2023 1:43 amHe played on crap Jaguars teams for most of his career, so I doubt team stats show up well.stillthere wrote: ↑Sun Apr 30, 2023 8:28 pm
I am strictly talking about his ability to block and that is why he is still in the league as a TE at 38 years of age. When I get a chance I will look up the running numbers on teams he has been on. I would be willing to bet the majority of them were in the top half of the league if not better. He was a much bigger threat in the passing game at UCLA and a bit when he first got to Jax. He has been a 6th O-lineman ever since.
My point though is that getting a player like that is fine at 92. At 17? No thanks
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Could he be that good? Sure! But clearly NFL GM's don't think he will be.Smashmouth21 wrote: ↑Mon May 01, 2023 1:46 amMy point is would you take Gronk at 17? Yeah, I bet. How about halfway in between? I like the odds.Pabst wrote: ↑Mon May 01, 2023 1:43 amHe played on crap Jaguars teams for most of his career, so I doubt team stats show up well.stillthere wrote: ↑Sun Apr 30, 2023 8:28 pm
I am strictly talking about his ability to block and that is why he is still in the league as a TE at 38 years of age. When I get a chance I will look up the running numbers on teams he has been on. I would be willing to bet the majority of them were in the top half of the league if not better. He was a much bigger threat in the passing game at UCLA and a bit when he first got to Jax. He has been a 6th O-lineman ever since.
My point though is that getting a player like that is fine at 92. At 17? No thanks
Gronk had 16 TD catches in two college seasons. Washington had 3 TDs over 3 years. All I'm saying is let's pump the brakes a bit before we reserve a spot in Canton. The reality is that guys drafted purely on measureables tend to bust more often than not. As I said, I'll be rooting for him and I'd love to see him turn into Gronk 2.0 and make me eat crow.
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Several of us. @Korey39 has been talking about him since last December. I thought he was the best tight end prospect of the last few years. I'll be shocked if by the end of the year he doesn't get more snaps than Freiermuth on 1st/2nd downs.COR-TEN wrote: ↑Sun Apr 30, 2023 10:59 amWhen gentry was signed everybody accepted the fact the steelers would skip a TE in this draft. But this dude is a physical freak. Aside from STD, weren't there others here that thought he was worth a pick?stillthere wrote: ↑Sun Apr 30, 2023 5:52 amCombine cut up of Washington. He obliterates the blocking sled.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sks7xuqZ584
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So, TE is now potentially one of the more (maybe the most?) varied and interesting position groups on the team. That pick takes the group from competent if vanilla/unremarkable to possible strength/mismatch unit by season's end. That's value. I was rooting for the pick at each spot after Jones got drafted, but as mentioned, not many of us knew about the medical red flag. Still well worth the shot in the 3rd.
Could cover up for some of the perceived warts at WR if deployed effectively going forward, too.
Could cover up for some of the perceived warts at WR if deployed effectively going forward, too.
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If his leg doesn't fall off, yes.bradshaw2ben wrote: ↑Mon May 01, 2023 1:40 pmSeveral of us. @Korey39 has been talking about him since last December. I thought he was the best tight end prospect of the last few years. I'll be shocked if by the end of the year he doesn't get more snaps than Freiermuth on 1st/2nd downs.COR-TEN wrote: ↑Sun Apr 30, 2023 10:59 amWhen gentry was signed everybody accepted the fact the steelers would skip a TE in this draft. But this dude is a physical freak. Aside from STD, weren't there others here that thought he was worth a pick?stillthere wrote: ↑Sun Apr 30, 2023 5:52 amCombine cut up of Washington. He obliterates the blocking sled.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sks7xuqZ584
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If all the needed parts stay intact, this guy could be a monster.
I'm not going to lie: I'm a little turned on by bully ball.
If we're going to insist on sticking to this primitive offense, let's at least make it painful for opposing teams' defenses and not just us fans watching it.
“Being a fan is fine, but there is a line you can cross that makes it really unhealthy,” said Ken Yeager, PhD, a mental health expert in the department of psychiatry at The Ohio State University Wexner Medical Center.
This is pretty much where I am. We've had a coach preaching the idea of attrition football for a while without the players to truly pull it off. It will be nice to hear that press conference. Will be satisfying to see it actually implemented.Professor Half Wit wrote: ↑Mon May 01, 2023 2:09 pmIf all the needed parts stay intact, this guy could be a monster.
I'm not going to lie: I'm a little turned on by bully ball.
If we're going to insist on sticking to this primitive offense, let's at least make it painful for opposing teams' defenses and not just us fans watching it.![]()
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Part of me wants to call him Low-Wash and dig in my heals until he single handedly wins a Lombardi.SteelerDayTrader wrote: ↑Mon May 01, 2023 2:06 am^^^^^^ Hater ^^^^^^^^Pabst wrote: ↑Mon May 01, 2023 1:43 amHe played on crap Jaguars teams for most of his career, so I doubt team stats show up well.stillthere wrote: ↑Sun Apr 30, 2023 8:28 pm
I am strictly talking about his ability to block and that is why he is still in the league as a TE at 38 years of age. When I get a chance I will look up the running numbers on teams he has been on. I would be willing to bet the majority of them were in the top half of the league if not better. He was a much bigger threat in the passing game at UCLA and a bit when he first got to Jax. He has been a 6th O-lineman ever since.
My point though is that getting a player like that is fine at 92. At 17? No thanks
The other part of me realized that I'm not an expert and that continuing to bash a draft pick I didn't like after he wins an MVP award would make me look really stupid.
I feel like game plan with DW is, ok Kenny if you’re ever in trouble just throw it at that dude
I would like to know why he fell to 8th TE taken. I could see him being the 4th or 5th TE taken but Luke Schoonmaker, Brenton Strange and Tucker Kraft where not lighting up the draft talk anywhere.
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Assume you didn’t know that when making him #4 overall
