Kozora Tweet…Pickett’s injury is “serious”…will miss “extended period of time”

[BethlehemSteel]

Can’t wait to hear if Art made an appearance o. The lockerroom postgame

[Jtf]

It’s very fitting this is the play Kenny Pickett got hurt on. Never came off his primary read. Had Calvin Austin uncovered WIDE THE FUCK OPEN for a walk in TD. Decides to run instead. Broke his freakin ankle. But hey, it was 3-3 when he went out.

Spot on post. Chris Hooke was saying same after the game. Not sure how he missed it.

But it was 3-3 so maybe they didn’t feel like they needed a td.

[Kodiak.]

Chris Hooke was saying same after the game. Not sure how he missed it.

But it was 3-3 so maybe they didn’t feel like they needed a td.

Kenny is very cerebral. Probably anticipated that Austin was going to slip and so looked elsewhere.

[Jobu]

Chris Hooke was saying same after the game. Not sure how he missed it.

But it was 3-3 so maybe they didn’t feel like they needed a td.

Kenny is very cerebral. Probably anticipated that Austin was going to slip and so looked elsewhere.

[BethlehemSteel]

KC goes into the game thread and lies about what is discussed here on this play. Maddening

[K_C_]

KC goes into the game thread and lies about what is discussed here on this play. Maddening

What did Iie about?



I missed the second half of the game because I was at a movie.

I don't see the "wide open" receiver here unless you're talking about Austin and that DB is heading over to cut him off at the corner.

Guarantee Pickett's first read was in the middle of the field and then he probably looked to dump it off to the back.

The back is CLEARLY covered.

Pickett might not have felt he had enough time to get the ball to Austin. That is worth criticizing but I don't think that's gonna be a TD.

[CKSteeler]

To be fair, with the velocity at which Kenny throws the ball, that might not be a TD. For 99% of the rest of the starting QB's in the league, it's a walk-in.

[jeemie]

KC goes into the game thread and lies about what is discussed here on this play. Maddening

What did Iie about?



I missed the second half of the game because I was at a movie.

I don't see the "wide open" receiver here unless you're talking about Austin and that DB is heading over to cut him off at the corner.

Guarantee Pickett's first read was in the middle of the field and then he probably looked to dump it off to the back.

The back is CLEARLY covered.

Pickett might not have felt he had enough time to get the ball to Austin. That is worth criticizing but I don't think that's gonna be a TD.

That’s a schemed open Austin that Pickett should have read pre-snap. He ought to come off his read and be ready to throw to Austin.

Kenny gets that ball out on time in anticipation and the DB never gets there. Austin walks in.

[Steeldrama]

KC goes into the game thread and lies about what is discussed here on this play. Maddening

What did Iie about?



I missed the second half of the game because I was at a movie.

I don't see the "wide open" receiver here unless you're talking about Austin and that DB is heading over to cut him off at the corner.

Guarantee Pickett's first read was in the middle of the field and then he probably looked to dump it off to the back.

The back is CLEARLY covered.

Pickett might not have felt he had enough time to get the ball to Austin. That is worth criticizing but I don't think that's gonna be a TD.

What movie did you see?
I saw Napoleon over the Thanksgiving holiday.
Didn't really like Joaquin Phoenix in that role but a pretty good movie overall.

[BethlehemSteel]

KC goes into the game thread and lies about what is discussed here on this play. Maddening

What did Iie about?



I missed the second half of the game because I was at a movie.

I don't see the "wide open" receiver here unless you're talking about Austin and that DB is heading over to cut him off at the corner.

Guarantee Pickett's first read was in the middle of the field and then he probably looked to dump it off to the back.

The back is CLEARLY covered.

Pickett might not have felt he had enough time to get the ball to Austin. That is worth criticizing but I don't think that's gonna be a TD.

Back up a page and read the discussion Yea it’s Austin. Tbt back is still over 12 feet away and this caption is 6 seconds post snap. Austin was wide open fro. The jump

You were at a movie. This discussion. Was hours past the second half. You’re a circular habitual line stepper

[jeemie]

A picture from earlier in the play…Kenny is looking over there, but at Pickens…before he then looks middle then left.

Pickens’ route is a pseudo-legal pick route that would slow up the defender that could get to Austin…IF Kenny does this little eye fake here and then immediately goes to Austin…who, again, Kenny should KNOW is there and uncovered.

This is a common play at the goal line, in both college and pro. I see other teams run it easily week in and week out, but we can’t?

PS the only thing I see here that could have caused issues is maybe Pickens ran his stem a yard or so too deep before making his cut, maybe a shallower cut freezes/blocks the defender who could get to Austin a little more effectively. But the play still should work…if Kenny had anticipated. He came off this side FAR too fast.

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[K_C_]

KC goes into the game thread and lies about what is discussed here on this play. Maddening

What did Iie about?



I missed the second half of the game because I was at a movie.

I don't see the "wide open" receiver here unless you're talking about Austin and that DB is heading over to cut him off at the corner.

Guarantee Pickett's first read was in the middle of the field and then he probably looked to dump it off to the back.

The back is CLEARLY covered.

Pickett might not have felt he had enough time to get the ball to Austin. That is worth criticizing but I don't think that's gonna be a TD.

Back up a page and read the discussion Yea it’s Austin. Tbt back is still over 12 feet away and this caption is 6 seconds post snap. Austin was wide open fro. The jump

You were at a movie. This discussion. Was hours past the second half. You’re a circular habitual line stepper

A habitual line stepper? Please stop hurting my feelings. I won't be able to get on with my day.



Austin was probably Pickett's last read on that play and he decided to run it. Came up about a half yard short.

He's sorry he let you down so much, I'm sure.

[jeemie]

What did Iie about?



I missed the second half of the game because I was at a movie.

I don't see the "wide open" receiver here unless you're talking about Austin and that DB is heading over to cut him off at the corner.

Guarantee Pickett's first read was in the middle of the field and then he probably looked to dump it off to the back.

The back is CLEARLY covered.

Pickett might not have felt he had enough time to get the ball to Austin. That is worth criticizing but I don't think that's gonna be a TD.

Back up a page and read the discussion Yea it’s Austin. Tbt back is still over 12 feet away and this caption is 6 seconds post snap. Austin was wide open fro. The jump

You were at a movie. This discussion. Was hours past the second half. You’re a circular habitual line stepper

A habitual line stepper? Please stop hurting my feelings. I won't be able to get on with my day.



Austin was probably Pickett's last read on that play and he decided to run it. Came up about a half yard short.

He's sorry he let you down so much, I'm sure.

Austin SHOULDN’T have been his last read on the play. That’s the whole thing with pointing out Kenny’s struggles to read defenses.

We don’t know where the routes are going until the ball is snapped…but Kenny does.

He should know from a pre-snap look of the defense that Austin stands a good chance of being wide the fuck open on this play.

[K_C_]

KC goes into the game thread and lies about what is discussed here on this play. Maddening

What did Iie about?



I missed the second half of the game because I was at a movie.

I don't see the "wide open" receiver here unless you're talking about Austin and that DB is heading over to cut him off at the corner.

Guarantee Pickett's first read was in the middle of the field and then he probably looked to dump it off to the back.

The back is CLEARLY covered.

Pickett might not have felt he had enough time to get the ball to Austin. That is worth criticizing but I don't think that's gonna be a TD.

What movie did you see?
I saw Napoleon over the Thanksgiving holiday.
Didn't really like Joaquin Phoenix in that role but a pretty good movie overall.

My friend Nathan and I, along with my 16 year old daughter went to see that Thanksgiving horror movie directed by Eli Roth.

It was goddamn good!! Everybody loved it. Saw Saltburn on Thursday with the wife and that movie is FUCKED UP. My daughter is going to see that Wednesday with a friend of hers. I was waaaaay too uncomfortable taking her to that one. Thank God.

That Barry Keoghan is a GREAT fucking actor. He was the best part of the Banshees of Inisherin, which was a masterpiece. If you haven't seen that, watch it today.

Napoleon was entertaining but I thought they tried too hard to cram Napoleon's entire life into far too short a movie (and I realize it was still like 3 hours long.) Too much goes unexplained, especially the military conquests.

If you haven't seen Phoenix in Beau is Afraid, holy shit. That might be the weirdest movie I have ever seen but went and saw it two days in a row. If you watch that on pay per view now, get fucked up first. You can thank me later.

[CKSteeler]

After listening to your football thoughts, I can only assume the opposite about every movie you just posted about.

I was watching Antique Roadshow during the second half.

[K_C_]

Back up a page and read the discussion Yea it’s Austin. Tbt back is still over 12 feet away and this caption is 6 seconds post snap. Austin was wide open fro. The jump

You were at a movie. This discussion. Was hours past the second half. You’re a circular habitual line stepper

A habitual line stepper? Please stop hurting my feelings. I won't be able to get on with my day.



Austin was probably Pickett's last read on that play and he decided to run it. Came up about a half yard short.

He's sorry he let you down so much, I'm sure.

Austin SHOULDN’T have been his last read on the play. That’s the whole thing with pointing out Kenny’s struggles to read defenses.

We don’t know where the routes are going until the ball is snapped…but Kenny does.

He should know from a pre-snap look of the defense that Austin stands a good chance of being wide the fuck open on this play.

Pickett's first reads were in the middle of the field, which makes the most sense. No one was open. At all.

I think after that, Pickett wanted to dump it off to the back, who also....was covered completely.

Not wanting to risk a turnover throwing to the outside, I think Pickett decided to try to score with his legs and he damn near did.

Injuries can happen on any play and unfortunately, that guy landed on the back of his legs. If not, I think he sneaks it in on the next play.

It's fair to say he missed Austin but I also don't blame Pickett for running there. Not one bit..

[K_C_]

After listening to your football thoughts, I can only assume the opposite about every movie you just posted about.

I was watching Antique Roadshow during the second half.

Dude, do you honestly think I give a flying fuck if you watch a movie I like or didn't like.



Stick with flicks like Ernest Goes to Camp. Seems more your speed.

[jeemie]

Middle of the field makes no sense there…who looks like they will be open pre-snap?

And you can see from my earlier post that he looked left to Pickens pretty early in the play and should have seen that combo route was working as intended, and should have known pre-snap it stood a good chance of working.

If Kenny’s first look was middle it confirms he can’t read zone worth shit.

[K_C_]

Middle of the field makes no sense there…who looks like they will be open pre-snap?

And you can see from my earlier post that he looked left to Pickens pretty early in the play and should have seen that combo route was working as intended, and should have known pre-snap it stood a good chance of working.

If Kenny’s first look was middle it confirms he can’t read zone worth shit.

Middle of the field plays are rarely going to look "open" pre snap. Too bunched up.

Normally a TE or slot receiver will sit down at the goal line, run multiple routes breaking iinside or outside hoping someone gets open fast, or you move on.

I'm 100% sure that's where Pickett was supposed to look first and then went to hit the back.

Should he have made the throw to the outisde? In hindsight, that probably would have been the best move, but he also almost scored running the ball.

The only really bad aspect of that play was the injury.

[jeemie]

Middle of the field makes no sense there…who looks like they will be open pre-snap?

And you can see from my earlier post that he looked left to Pickens pretty early in the play and should have seen that combo route was working as intended, and should have known pre-snap it stood a good chance of working.

If Kenny’s first look was middle it confirms he can’t read zone worth shit.

Middle of the field plays are rarely going to look "open" pre snap. Too bunched up.

Normally a TE or slot receiver will sit down at the goal line, run multiple routes breaking iinside or outside hoping someone gets open fast, or you move on.

I'm 100% sure that's where Pickett was supposed to look first and then went to hit the back.

Should he have made the throw to the outisde? In hindsight, that probably would have been the best move, but he also almost scored running the ball.

The only really bad aspect of that play was the injury.

Ideally you want your first read to be the place you go to get the ball out quickly so…um….yeah, you want it to look pre-snap like it has a chance of being open or coming open rather quickly.

Whereas on the sideline, a pre-snap look of the Pickens/Austin combo DEFINITELY looks like one of those two is going to be open..likely Austin (as I said this is a common route combo lots of teams use at the goal line both in pros and college) and in no ways does it make sense to be Kenny’s “fourth read”.

Even if it was, a good QB changes that up pre-snap.

So no…middle of the field did not, in fact, “make sense” as a first read.

[SteelerDayTrader]

1st or 4th read

Kenny is slow to get the ball out

You can speculate a few different reasons and probably be at least partially right

[jeemie]

1st or 4th read

Kenny is slow to get the ball out

You can speculate a few different reasons and probably be at least partially right

Whatever read it was, Kenny did look to that side of the field (at Pickens) and should have seen Austin wide open in the flat, with Pickens' route keeping the defenders at bay...IF Kenny comes off Pickens (maybe freezing the defender with a look) and throws the ball.

He came off Pickens all right...back to the right side of the field.

[Steelperch]

Middle of the field makes no sense there…who looks like they will be open pre-snap?

And you can see from my earlier post that he looked left to Pickens pretty early in the play and should have seen that combo route was working as intended, and should have known pre-snap it stood a good chance of working.

If Kenny’s first look was middle it confirms he can’t read zone worth shit.

Middle of the field plays are rarely going to look "open" pre snap. Too bunched up.

Normally a TE or slot receiver will sit down at the goal line, run multiple routes breaking iinside or outside hoping someone gets open fast, or you move on.

I'm 100% sure that's where Pickett was supposed to look first and then went to hit the back.

Should he have made the throw to the outisde? In hindsight, that probably would have been the best move, but he also almost scored running the ball.

The only really bad aspect of that play was the injury.

All of this is wrong and I’m going to assume you never rewatched the play.

The purpose of sending Austin in motion is to show the defense is in zone, which it is. The play is designed to get him uncovered which it did. Kenny locked on to a different target, never noticing that Austin was unguarded because he sucks at presnap reads. He still had an opportunity to throw the ball to the Darnell Washington (pictured below) who is open if a QB trusts his read and can make a throw into a tight window. Kenny locked onto him, but doesn’t process fast enough to pull the trigger when he’s NFL open. He had the opportunity to switch to another read as it was a clean pocket, he did not. Kenny fucked up not watching Austin go in motion pre snap and seeing he was uncovered. He fucked up not throwing to Washington. He fucked up not dumping it to his 240 pound RB who only had to outphysical a small corner to score. He fucked up leaving a clean pocket to run into a zone with multiple defenders at the goal line facing him waiting to make the tackle.. He fucked that play up just about every way a QB could. The only plays Pickett has ever made have been when his first read was open.

The entire play is indefensible if you are holding the guy to the standard of being an average NFL QB. You’ll defend him anyway.

[K_C_]

Middle of the field makes no sense there…who looks like they will be open pre-snap?

And you can see from my earlier post that he looked left to Pickens pretty early in the play and should have seen that combo route was working as intended, and should have known pre-snap it stood a good chance of working.

If Kenny’s first look was middle it confirms he can’t read zone worth shit.

Middle of the field plays are rarely going to look "open" pre snap. Too bunched up.

Normally a TE or slot receiver will sit down at the goal line, run multiple routes breaking iinside or outside hoping someone gets open fast, or you move on.

I'm 100% sure that's where Pickett was supposed to look first and then went to hit the back.

Should he have made the throw to the outisde? In hindsight, that probably would have been the best move, but he also almost scored running the ball.

The only really bad aspect of that play was the injury.

All of this is wrong and I’m going to assume you never rewatched the play.

The purpose of sending Austin in motion is to show the defense is in zone, which it is. The play is designed to get him uncovered which it did. Kenny locked on to a different target, never noticing that Austin was unguarded because he sucks at presnap reads. He still had an opportunity to throw the ball to the Darnell Washington (pictured below) who is open if a QB trusts his read and can make a throw into a tight window. Kenny locked onto him, but doesn’t process fast enough to pull the trigger when he’s NFL open. He had the opportunity to switch to another read as it was a clean pocket, he did not. Kenny fucked up not watching Austin go in motion pre snap and seeing he was uncovered. He fucked up not throwing to Washington. He fucked up not dumping it to his 240 pound RB who only had to outphysical a small corner to score. He fucked up leaving a clean pocket to run into a zone with multiple defenders at the goal line facing him waiting to make the tackle.. He fucked that play up just about every way a QB could. The only plays Pickett has ever made have been when his first read was open.

The entire play is indefensible if you are holding the guy to the standard of being an average NFL QB. You’ll defend him anyway.

Washington wasn't open. It's utterly laughable to believe he was.

Harris wasn't scoring on that dump off.

I'll give you Pickett probably fucked up not seeing Austin open pre snap.

The rest you're reaching on.

[BethlehemSteel]

Harris moved through his block and was also wide open a few seconds later

As like he never read Austin. He locked on middle never looked at Najee and tucked his sorry scared tail and ran out of a clean pocket

[Steelperch]

We watched Ben crank passes like that into the end zone to Washington for two decades. That’s NFL open. Look at Kenny, he’s at the peak of his drop back with the ball in position to throw. Look at Washington, he’s fucking open. One defender is two yards behind him, the other has his back to him. The one behind Washington has to choose between covering Washington and Najee. If Kenny rips it at the very second of this frame, good chance it’s a completed TD.

Najee pops wide open right after this. Who has a better chance to score, Najee at the 2 yard line vs an outsized corner, or Kenny running 10 yards up the gut against a zone defense?

You are right about one thing, Kenny’s biggest sin on this play was his utter shit ability to conduct a basic per snap read. Austin in motion tells him the answer to the test. This is a very well designed play, the type that is frustrating to watch every other offense in the league execute every week. A well designed walk in score. Only one person could mess this play up, and Kenny did every way a QB could.

[jeemie]

Middle of the field plays are rarely going to look "open" pre snap. Too bunched up.

Normally a TE or slot receiver will sit down at the goal line, run multiple routes breaking iinside or outside hoping someone gets open fast, or you move on.

I'm 100% sure that's where Pickett was supposed to look first and then went to hit the back.

Should he have made the throw to the outisde? In hindsight, that probably would have been the best move, but he also almost scored running the ball.

The only really bad aspect of that play was the injury.

All of this is wrong and I’m going to assume you never rewatched the play.

The purpose of sending Austin in motion is to show the defense is in zone, which it is. The play is designed to get him uncovered which it did. Kenny locked on to a different target, never noticing that Austin was unguarded because he sucks at presnap reads. He still had an opportunity to throw the ball to the Darnell Washington (pictured below) who is open if a QB trusts his read and can make a throw into a tight window. Kenny locked onto him, but doesn’t process fast enough to pull the trigger when he’s NFL open. He had the opportunity to switch to another read as it was a clean pocket, he did not. Kenny fucked up not watching Austin go in motion pre snap and seeing he was uncovered. He fucked up not throwing to Washington. He fucked up not dumping it to his 240 pound RB who only had to outphysical a small corner to score. He fucked up leaving a clean pocket to run into a zone with multiple defenders at the goal line facing him waiting to make the tackle.. He fucked that play up just about every way a QB could. The only plays Pickett has ever made have been when his first read was open.

The entire play is indefensible if you are holding the guy to the standard of being an average NFL QB. You’ll defend him anyway.

Washington wasn't open. It's utterly laughable to believe he was.

Harris wasn't scoring on that dump off.

I'll give you Pickett probably fucked up not seeing Austin open pre snap.

The rest you're reaching on.

Washington I’ll give you…not sure if he tries a dump off to Najee that Najee will turn around in time, and Kenny sucks at those dump off type passes anyway.

But if he rips it to Washington he might complete it.

All of this could have been done before the guy who Jones whiffed on gets to Kenny.

But the guy who was WTFO from jump was Austin…and Kenny DID look over there…briefly.

[langer]

His football IQ is not high and his physical talents not quite there.

Thought he would have flashed at this point, but he's shown zilch in every facet of QB play.

[Orangesteel]

My hope is that post-surgery Kenny simply quits professional football.

I can’t watch this clown anymore.

[K_C_]

All of this is wrong and I’m going to assume you never rewatched the play.

The purpose of sending Austin in motion is to show the defense is in zone, which it is. The play is designed to get him uncovered which it did. Kenny locked on to a different target, never noticing that Austin was unguarded because he sucks at presnap reads. He still had an opportunity to throw the ball to the Darnell Washington (pictured below) who is open if a QB trusts his read and can make a throw into a tight window. Kenny locked onto him, but doesn’t process fast enough to pull the trigger when he’s NFL open. He had the opportunity to switch to another read as it was a clean pocket, he did not. Kenny fucked up not watching Austin go in motion pre snap and seeing he was uncovered. He fucked up not throwing to Washington. He fucked up not dumping it to his 240 pound RB who only had to outphysical a small corner to score. He fucked up leaving a clean pocket to run into a zone with multiple defenders at the goal line facing him waiting to make the tackle.. He fucked that play up just about every way a QB could. The only plays Pickett has ever made have been when his first read was open.

The entire play is indefensible if you are holding the guy to the standard of being an average NFL QB. You’ll defend him anyway.

Washington wasn't open. It's utterly laughable to believe he was.

Harris wasn't scoring on that dump off.

I'll give you Pickett probably fucked up not seeing Austin open pre snap.

The rest you're reaching on.

Washington I’ll give you…not sure if he tries a dump off to Najee that Najee will turn around in time, and Kenny sucks at those dump off type passes anyway.

But if he rips it to Washington he might complete it.

All of this could have been done before the guy who Jones whiffed on gets to Kenny.

But the guy who was WTFO from jump was Austin…and Kenny DID look over there…briefly.

I can't find video of the entire play.

All over YouTube are basically still photos of Kenny's injury.

Hell, even the "highlight" video shows Kenny hitting Freiermuth inside the 10 and then immediately goes to Mitch handing it to Najee who got STONEWALLED at the 1.

I'd like to see how open Austin was and I'm not doubting he was, but the corner in the end zone looks to be heading to the corner to try and head Austin off in case the ball goes his way.

Again, need to see the full play. Could probably look through my recording of the game, but that would be too depressing.