Reality

[SteelerDayTrader]

The Steelers are 3-0 but they’ve played 3 mediocre at best teams

I see some improvement each week but they haven’t been tested at all

I don’t think the Colts are better than mediocre either

Happy for Ws

Not convinced this team can compete with the best

[SteelPro]

The Steelers are 3-0 but they’ve played 3 mediocre at best teams

I see some improvement each week but they haven’t been tested at all

I don’t think the Colts are better than mediocre either

Happy for Ws

Not convinced this team can compete with the best

Honestly though.. the league is mostly mediocre.

[VeritasSteel]

The Steelers are 3-0 but they’ve played 3 mediocre at best teams

I see some improvement each week but they haven’t been tested at all

I don’t think the Colts are better than mediocre either

Happy for Ws

Not convinced this team can compete with the best

Stop. Enough with the handwringing.

Have you felt like any team we’ve faced has been in the game after the first quarter? Seriously. This defense is stuffing teams once they get out of their scripted plays. It’s feels like 2008 or 1976 around here.

Atlanta exposed the Eagles and Chiefs and got all the offense they wanted on two playoff teams.

Chargers had a great defense and look like they could be the Chief beaters. Before attrition got the better of them on both sides. Basically us 3 years ago.

And if the Broncos are bad someone should tell the Bucs.

Hardly 3 bottom dwellers and especially since all
the doom and gloom bedwetters here thought we’d be 1-2 or 0-3 looking for answers.


I know 3 things.

Our defense makes every team we face beatable. Especially in the division.

There’s not a defense on our schedule that’s built to stop a solid running game without committing 8 bodies-
maybe the Jets.

The only thing stopping this team from running the
table is injuries. And our offense will reduce the wear and tear that causes them.

I am going to laugh at those squeamish fans when we run the ball 40 times in a December game and completely manhandle a team with <150 yards passing and 2 TDs.

[K_C_]

The Steelers are 3-0 but they’ve played 3 mediocre at best teams

I see some improvement each week but they haven’t been tested at all

I don’t think the Colts are better than mediocre either

Happy for Ws

Not convinced this team can compete with the best

Are you going for a record for most dumb posts at the start of a season?

You're on track my man!!

[StillerDownSouth]

Defense and strong running game has always been a formula for winning in football, and the Steelers most explosive RB hasn’t even been healthy this year. This team is starting to remind me of Ben’s rookie year team and the 05 championship team, you all remember, back when they asked Ben to throw it 20 times a game.

[franco32]

Defense and strong running game has always been a formula for winning in football, and the Steelers most explosive RB hasn’t even been healthy this year. This team is starting to remind me of Ben’s rookie year team and the 05 championship team, you all remember, back when they asked Ben to throw it 20 times a game.

I'd have to squint pretty badly to see that resemblance because Ben is in another galaxy compared to Fields, but I get your general point. I actually think our competition has been tougher than people think. I'm just troubled by 3 TDs in 3 games when you see teams like the Bills scoring 3 in a quarter+

[RemoAZ]

This is the typical Tomlin team. Near the top of the mediocre teams but no shot at being a real contender. He'll get them better than a .500 record and if he makes the playoffs, he'll get slaughtered. I've seen it and been disappointed way too many times to get sucked into believing this season will be different.

[SteelerDayTrader]

Defense and strong running game has always been a formula for winning in football, and the Steelers most explosive RB hasn’t even been healthy this year. This team is starting to remind me of Ben’s rookie year team and the 05 championship team, you all remember, back when they asked Ben to throw it 20 times a game.

[bradshaw2ben]

Defense and strong running game has always been a formula for winning in football, and the Steelers most explosive RB hasn’t even been healthy this year. This team is starting to remind me of Ben’s rookie year team and the 05 championship team, you all remember, back when they asked Ben to throw it 20 times a game.

I think it’s closer to the 2010 team, especially in games 1-4.

[bradshaw2ben]

Defense and strong running game has always been a formula for winning in football

When coupled with a clutch QB

[Havoc]

Defense and running the football typically comes up short in the post season. Doesn't win Super Bowls. Never has. There are a few exceptions.

2005 Steelers offense... 9th Pts/G

2024 Steelers offense... 24th Pts/G

2005 thru the first 3 games... Ben had scoring strikes of 85 yds, 63 yds, 16 yds, 14 yds, 3 yds, 3 yds,

Fields has 2 TD throws thru 3 games...55 yds, 5 yds
Fields has a 4 yard rushing TD

Ben 8.9 Y/A (RS)
Fields 6.9 Y/A

In 2005 we had speed out of the backfield in Parker which gave us a huge impact play in the SB.

The fanbase is so used to slow at RB that many of us get excited about Warren who is a nice player but he's not a speed back.

In 2005 we were coming off a 15-1 RS, had post season experience, a strong OL, a deep WR/TE group, speed at RB. Ben Y/A first 3 post season games... 10.95, 8.21, 9.48

Having said all that...

Fields is looking downfield sometimes but not pulling the trigger. If that changes, and if we start getting a lot more downfield completions, this offense will look a lot different.

I'm interested to see how Fields develops over the course of the season if he remains the starting QB.

Our defense has played lights out so far, but I want to see them tested at a higher level.

[Mick]

The Steelers are 3-0 but they’ve played 3 mediocre at best teams

I see some improvement each week but they haven’t been tested at all

I don’t think the Colts are better than mediocre either

Happy for Ws

Not convinced this team can compete with the best

Honestly though.. the league is mostly mediocre.

So far to me we’ve looked like a Grade B team in a league with only one Grade A team (Buffalo).

[K_C_]

The Steelers are 3-0 but they’ve played 3 mediocre at best teams

I see some improvement each week but they haven’t been tested at all

I don’t think the Colts are better than mediocre either

Happy for Ws

Not convinced this team can compete with the best

Honestly though.. the league is mostly mediocre.

So far to me we’ve looked like a Grade B team in a league with only one Grade A team (Buffalo).

The Chiefs will beat Buffalo when it matters. Like always. You can set your watch by it happening.

Mahomes and Reid have almost become like a great NBA team. They aren’t even that concerned with the regular season.

They just get through it, get to the postseason and then start taking people’s lunch money.

[SteelPro]

The Steelers are 3-0 but they’ve played 3 mediocre at best teams

I see some improvement each week but they haven’t been tested at all

I don’t think the Colts are better than mediocre either

Happy for Ws

Not convinced this team can compete with the best

Honestly though.. the league is mostly mediocre.

So far to me we’ve looked like a Grade B team in a league with only one Grade A team (Buffalo).

Exactly. Although the Chiefs are always a Grade A team as long as Mahomes is the QB and Reid is the coach regardless of what they do on the field in the regular season.

[Havoc]

Chiefs were a perennial playoff team before Mahomes became the starter.

Mahomes pushed them over the top. That's what a great QB does.

Mahomes was stopped plenty last season. 15th in Pts/G

Chiefs didn't score 30 in any of their 4 post season games last year. They won the SB largely because their defense held teams down (2nd Pts/G RS) & Mahomes made plays late.

If Burrow had stayed healthy and if you switch Chiefs/Bengals defenses, the Mahomes narrative might be different. Burrow beat him 3 games in a row at one point including post season. The injuries started and his defense declined.

[StillerDownSouth]

Defense and strong running game has always been a formula for winning in football

When coupled with a clutch QB

Which is why KC has been winning, good Defense, good running game, ball control passing game and a clutch QB who makes timely plays, sans Mahomes 1st year when he lit the league up, he hasn't been putting up monster numbers, but he always seems to make the timely play, much like Brady was with the Pats dynasty, except for the Randy Moss years, they were a team that played great defense, ran the ball well, and had a ball control passing attack, it's a time tested formula. Great coaching and scheme in my opinion trump having a great QB, I still think that is the Steelers greatest weakness.

[StillerDownSouth]

Honestly though.. the league is mostly mediocre.

So far to me we’ve looked like a Grade B team in a league with only one Grade A team (Buffalo).

The Chiefs will beat Buffalo when it matters. Like always. You can set your watch by it happening.

Mahomes and Reid have almost become like a great NBA team. They aren’t even that concerned with the regular season.

They just get through it, get to the postseason and then start taking people’s lunch money.

They remind me of the Shaq, Kobe, Phil Lakers in that way, sleep walk through regular season then hit turbo mode when playoffs start

[Deebo]

Chiefs were a perennial playoff team before Mahomes became the starter.

Mahomes pushed them over the top. That's what a great QB does.

Mahomes was stopped plenty last season. 15th in Pts/G

Chiefs didn't score 30 in any of their 4 post season games last year. They won the SB largely because their defense held teams down (2nd Pts/G RS) & Mahomes made plays late.

If Burrow had stayed healthy and if you switch Chiefs/Bengals defenses, the Mahomes narrative might be different. Burrow beat him 3 games in a row at one point including post season. The injuries started and his defense declined.

Thank you.
PH gets all the press and he's the shiny decoration on top of the cake.
But the Chiefs are built on defense. They are solid and consistent. Then they have a handful of defensive playmakers that tilt the contest in the most critical moments.

This is how you beat the Chiefs: you put up points and overcome their defensive advantage. Then you hold on as best you can against PH.

[Havoc]

Chiefs were a perennial playoff team before Mahomes became the starter.

Mahomes pushed them over the top. That's what a great QB does.

Mahomes was stopped plenty last season. 15th in Pts/G

Chiefs didn't score 30 in any of their 4 post season games last year. They won the SB largely because their defense held teams down (2nd Pts/G RS) & Mahomes made plays late.

If Burrow had stayed healthy and if you switch Chiefs/Bengals defenses, the Mahomes narrative might be different. Burrow beat him 3 games in a row at one point including post season. The injuries started and his defense declined.

Thank you.
PH gets all the press and he's the shiny decoration on top of the cake.
But the Chiefs are built on defense. They are solid and consistent. Then they have a handful of defensive playmakers that tilt the contest in the most critical moments.

This is how you beat the Chiefs: you put up points and overcome their defensive advantage. Then you hold on as best you can against PH.

Some dipshits act like the QB position is no longer about throwing the football.

The next elite Peyton/Brady type pocket passer will tear up the league just like they did.

Mahomes is elite at throwing the football.

Lamar Jackson dominated some regular seasons but he doesn't dominate in the post season. He doesn't suck at throwing but he's not elite and it shows in the higher league (post season).

I've seen statements about 7 different arm angles for Mahomes...

I watched part of a Brett Favre highlight video yesterday. 6 different arm angles in the first 8 throws. I stopped counting and stopped watching shortly afterwards.

It's all been done before.

I hear asinine fanboy and maybe agenda driven statements nationally not giving Brady his due. Dude terrorized the NFL and the Steelers a whole lot longer than Mahomes has. Pretty sure Brady had some aspects to his game he did better than Mahomes including height advantage just as Mahomes has some aspects to his game that's better than Brady.

I wonder what Aaron Rodgers career would have looked like dropped into the QB dream scenario Chiefs like very few QBs have ever had from day 1 of their career.

Final thought...

Look at the huge elite targets (TE) over the middle for both Brady and Mahomes. Easiest throws for a QB to make. I've seen Mahomes struggle without Kelce on the field.

[Pabst]

Final thought...

Look at the huge elite targets (TE) over the middle for both Brady and Mahomes. Easiest throws for a QB to make. I've seen Mahomes struggle without Kelce on the field.

Don't necessarily disagree with your overall point, but Brady isn't a great example here. I honestly couldn't tell you who New England's TEs were when Brady won his first 3 rings, and Gronk was on IR when they won in 2016.

[Havoc]

Final thought...

Look at the huge elite targets (TE) over the middle for both Brady and Mahomes. Easiest throws for a QB to make. I've seen Mahomes struggle without Kelce on the field.

Don't necessarily disagree with your overall point, but Brady isn't a great example here. I honestly couldn't tell you who New England's TEs were when Brady won his first 3 rings, and Gronk was on IR when they won in 2016.

I was thinking of Brady's prime years.

Point taken on 2016 when Gronk got hurt during the season.

Also, there was 2007 and that prolific offense even though the Pat's came up short. I used to say thanks Giants but I don't know if it even matters anymore due to all the rings.

[SteelPro]

Chiefs were a perennial playoff team before Mahomes became the starter.

Mahomes pushed them over the top. That's what a great QB does.

Mahomes was stopped plenty last season. 15th in Pts/G

Chiefs didn't score 30 in any of their 4 post season games last year. They won the SB largely because their defense held teams down (2nd Pts/G RS) & Mahomes made plays late.

If Burrow had stayed healthy and if you switch Chiefs/Bengals defenses, the Mahomes narrative might be different. Burrow beat him 3 games in a row at one point including post season. The injuries started and his defense declined.

Thank you.
PH gets all the press and he's the shiny decoration on top of the cake.
But the Chiefs are built on defense. They are solid and consistent. Then they have a handful of defensive playmakers that tilt the contest in the most critical moments.

This is how you beat the Chiefs: you put up points and overcome their defensive advantage. Then you hold on as best you can against PH.

Some dipshits act like the QB position is no longer about throwing the football.

The next elite Peyton/Brady type pocket passer will tear up the league just like they did.

Mahomes is elite at throwing the football.

Lamar Jackson dominated some regular seasons but he doesn't dominate in the post season. He doesn't suck at throwing but he's not elite and it shows in the higher league (post season).

I've seen statements about 7 different arm angles for Mahomes...

I watched part of a Brett Favre highlight video yesterday. 6 different arm angles in the first 8 throws. I stopped counting and stopped watching shortly afterwards.

It's all been done before.

I hear asinine fanboy and maybe agenda driven statements nationally not giving Brady his due. Dude terrorized the NFL and the Steelers a whole lot longer than Mahomes has. Pretty sure Brady had some aspects to his game he did better than Mahomes including height advantage just as Mahomes has some aspects to his game that's better than Brady.

I wonder what Aaron Rodgers career would have looked like dropped into the QB dream scenario Chiefs like very few QBs have ever had from day 1 of their career.

Final thought...

Look at the huge elite targets (TE) over the middle for both Brady and Mahomes. Easiest throws for a QB to make. I've seen Mahomes struggle without Kelce on the field.

I’m not going to debate who was the greatest QB ever with you or even who is the greatest active QB. The point is that Mahomes isn’t just great, he also is very clutch. It doesn’t matter where he falls statistically any more. As an opposing fan you just get the feeling he will get the job done when he needs it. He is very much like Brady in that regard.

[Havoc]

Thank you.
PH gets all the press and he's the shiny decoration on top of the cake.
But the Chiefs are built on defense. They are solid and consistent. Then they have a handful of defensive playmakers that tilt the contest in the most critical moments.

This is how you beat the Chiefs: you put up points and overcome their defensive advantage. Then you hold on as best you can against PH.

Some dipshits act like the QB position is no longer about throwing the football.

The next elite Peyton/Brady type pocket passer will tear up the league just like they did.

Mahomes is elite at throwing the football.

Lamar Jackson dominated some regular seasons but he doesn't dominate in the post season. He doesn't suck at throwing but he's not elite and it shows in the higher league (post season).

I've seen statements about 7 different arm angles for Mahomes...

I watched part of a Brett Favre highlight video yesterday. 6 different arm angles in the first 8 throws. I stopped counting and stopped watching shortly afterwards.

It's all been done before.

I hear asinine fanboy and maybe agenda driven statements nationally not giving Brady his due. Dude terrorized the NFL and the Steelers a whole lot longer than Mahomes has. Pretty sure Brady had some aspects to his game he did better than Mahomes including height advantage just as Mahomes has some aspects to his game that's better than Brady.

I wonder what Aaron Rodgers career would have looked like dropped into the QB dream scenario Chiefs like very few QBs have ever had from day 1 of their career.

Final thought...

Look at the huge elite targets (TE) over the middle for both Brady and Mahomes. Easiest throws for a QB to make. I've seen Mahomes struggle without Kelce on the field.

I’m not going to debate who was the greatest QB ever with you or even who is the greatest active QB. The point is that Mahomes isn’t just great, he also is very clutch. It doesn’t matter where he falls statistically any more. As an opposing fan you just get the feeling he will get the job done when he needs it. He is very much like Brady in that regard.

He's clutch, and not the first QB to be clutch.

He's also playing in an era where it's so much easier to be clutch then past eras.

You have to try to finish the game on offense if you possibly can when playing the Chiefs.

Zero reason to believe Mike Tomlin will ever attempt to do this. He'll punt and cling to his defense no natter how good his offense is while we all watch knowing what's about to happen.

[SteelPro]

Some dipshits act like the QB position is no longer about throwing the football.

The next elite Peyton/Brady type pocket passer will tear up the league just like they did.

Mahomes is elite at throwing the football.

Lamar Jackson dominated some regular seasons but he doesn't dominate in the post season. He doesn't suck at throwing but he's not elite and it shows in the higher league (post season).

I've seen statements about 7 different arm angles for Mahomes...

I watched part of a Brett Favre highlight video yesterday. 6 different arm angles in the first 8 throws. I stopped counting and stopped watching shortly afterwards.

It's all been done before.

I hear asinine fanboy and maybe agenda driven statements nationally not giving Brady his due. Dude terrorized the NFL and the Steelers a whole lot longer than Mahomes has. Pretty sure Brady had some aspects to his game he did better than Mahomes including height advantage just as Mahomes has some aspects to his game that's better than Brady.

I wonder what Aaron Rodgers career would have looked like dropped into the QB dream scenario Chiefs like very few QBs have ever had from day 1 of their career.

Final thought...

Look at the huge elite targets (TE) over the middle for both Brady and Mahomes. Easiest throws for a QB to make. I've seen Mahomes struggle without Kelce on the field.

I’m not going to debate who was the greatest QB ever with you or even who is the greatest active QB. The point is that Mahomes isn’t just great, he also is very clutch. It doesn’t matter where he falls statistically any more. As an opposing fan you just get the feeling he will get the job done when he needs it. He is very much like Brady in that regard.

He's clutch, and not the first QB to be clutch.

He's also playing in an era where it's so much easier to be clutch then past eras.

You have to try to finish the game on offense if you possibly can when playing the Chiefs.

Zero reason to believe Mike Tomlin will ever attempt to do this. He'll punt and cling to his defense no natter how good his offense is while we all watch knowing what's about to happen.

I never claimed he was the first to be clutch. But he is most certainly the most clutch of the QBs in the league now. His track record says so. If you want to contribute that to his coach being really good and making sure he gets the ball last then you are just agreeing with what myself and others said previously… as long as Mahomes is the QB and Reid is the coach the Chiefs are a Grade A team.

[Havoc]

I’m not going to debate who was the greatest QB ever with you or even who is the greatest active QB. The point is that Mahomes isn’t just great, he also is very clutch. It doesn’t matter where he falls statistically any more. As an opposing fan you just get the feeling he will get the job done when he needs it. He is very much like Brady in that regard.

He's clutch, and not the first QB to be clutch.

He's also playing in an era where it's so much easier to be clutch then past eras.

You have to try to finish the game on offense if you possibly can when playing the Chiefs.

Zero reason to believe Mike Tomlin will ever attempt to do this. He'll punt and cling to his defense no natter how good his offense is while we all watch knowing what's about to happen.

I never claimed he was the first to be clutch. But he is most certainly the most clutch of the QBs in the league now. His track record says so. If you want to contribute that to his coach being really good and making sure he gets the ball last then you are just agreeing with what myself and others said previously… as long as Mahomes is the QB and Reid is the coach the Chiefs are a Grade A team.

Not without defense.

Does Mahomes play defense too?

The Chief's offense wasn't exactly Grade A last year.

Their defense was though.

Football is a team game. Takes a team to win the championship.