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Post by steelmann58 » Mon Dec 23, 2024 1:52 am

Should the Steelers rest their injuries until totally healthy until the playoffs. Second how worried should we be about that final game vs Cinny



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Post by jeemie » Mon Dec 23, 2024 2:25 am

Guys will you look at the standings, please?

The Bengals have 8 losses...the most we can have is 7.

This isn't hard...
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Post by bradshaw2ben » Mon Dec 23, 2024 2:34 am

jeemie wrote:
Mon Dec 23, 2024 2:25 am
Guys will you look at the standings, please?

The Bengals have 8 losses...the most we can have is 7.

This isn't hard...
It’s not about the Bengals catching the Steelers… it’s about how far can they fall in the standings if they lose the next two.

The answer is, they are probably going to be the 5 seed but becoming the 6 or even the 7th is not impossible. I don’t think they really want to be going to Buffalo or Baltimore at this point.

One good thing is: if there’s a chance for the Steelers to fall to the 7 seed then Cincy will be eliminated before the week 18 game.
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Post by jeemie » Mon Dec 23, 2024 2:58 am

bradshaw2ben wrote:
Mon Dec 23, 2024 2:34 am
jeemie wrote:
Mon Dec 23, 2024 2:25 am
Guys will you look at the standings, please?

The Bengals have 8 losses...the most we can have is 7.

This isn't hard...
It’s not about the Bengals catching the Steelers… it’s about how far can they fall in the standings if they lose the next two.

The answer is, they are probably going to be the 5 seed but becoming the 6 or even the 7th is not impossible. I don’t think they really want to be going to Buffalo or Baltimore at this point.

One good thing is: if there’s a chance for the Steelers to fall to the 7 seed then Cincy will be eliminated before the week 18 game.
Either the Chargers or Broncos are gonna lose one more game so I’m not concerned.

I don’t see Baltimore being any more difficult than Houston so 5 or 6 doesn’t matter to me.
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Post by Stosh-67 » Mon Dec 23, 2024 3:01 am

Legit questions...
How about this one.

Will Darnell Washington have more targets in the last 2, than he did in the previous 3.

ONE target in the last 3 games.
Criminally Negligent.

2 targets and 1 catch over last 4 games.
:evil:

After a 5 game stretch in which he had 11 catches on 15 targets for 127 yards...11.5 avg
Including receptions of 18, 25 and 29

This guy should be a weapon.
Was building nice momentum.
Was striking down the middle..
On top of his routes to the right edge.
They had attempted a few TE screens to him a few weeks ago.... that did not click...tipped passes.
He may be the biggest visable target that little Russel is able to see over his line.
He should have an easy catch or two between hashes every week....chip/shed... run 5-7 and turn.
LB or S would have to run thru 6'-7" and 295... to break up a pass.

He would be a 50-60+ catch TE in a modern NFL offense.

I believe Tomlin is of the mindset, that once DW started making big plays.... that he should keep him a hidden commodity .... to keep under wraps...
To spring him and suprise with him down the road.

We fail to plan on Monday thru Saturday...
With conclusive results on Sundays.
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Post by steelmann58 » Mon Dec 23, 2024 4:41 am

Not using your Top two TE is kinda mind boggling

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Post by bradshaw2ben » Mon Dec 23, 2024 3:42 pm

jeemie wrote:
Mon Dec 23, 2024 2:58 am
bradshaw2ben wrote:
Mon Dec 23, 2024 2:34 am
jeemie wrote:
Mon Dec 23, 2024 2:25 am
Guys will you look at the standings, please?

The Bengals have 8 losses...the most we can have is 7.

This isn't hard...
It’s not about the Bengals catching the Steelers… it’s about how far can they fall in the standings if they lose the next two.

The answer is, they are probably going to be the 5 seed but becoming the 6 or even the 7th is not impossible. I don’t think they really want to be going to Buffalo or Baltimore at this point.

One good thing is: if there’s a chance for the Steelers to fall to the 7 seed then Cincy will be eliminated before the week 18 game.
Either the Chargers or Broncos are gonna lose one more game so I’m not concerned.

I don’t see Baltimore being any more difficult than Houston so 5 or 6 doesn’t matter to me.
I don't think a road game at either Baltimore nor Houston is gonna be a cakewalk. Houston and PIT are about even on a neutral field. Stroud carved our defense the last time, if memory serves. Baltimore just beat them by multiple TDs. I'm not sure there's a great matchup available to the Steelers unless they win out or BAL loses. I guess I'd rather have HOU without Dell.
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Post by bradshaw2ben » Mon Dec 23, 2024 3:45 pm

steelmann58 wrote:
Mon Dec 23, 2024 4:41 am
Not using your Top two TE is kinda mind boggling
I think they;'ve tried to use Friermuth. This is just who he is... hot and cold depending on the defensive scheme. In certain situations/coverage can be a useful tool but he isn't a continual matchup problem.
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Post by jeemie » Mon Dec 23, 2024 3:51 pm

bradshaw2ben wrote:
Mon Dec 23, 2024 3:45 pm
steelmann58 wrote:
Mon Dec 23, 2024 4:41 am
Not using your Top two TE is kinda mind boggling
I think they;'ve tried to use Friermuth. This is just who he is... hot and cold depending on the defensive scheme. In certain situations/coverage can be a useful tool but he isn't a continual matchup problem.
I'm not kidding that I think Wilson, because of his short height, has been missing open receivers over the middle... Middle... I counted at least two on Saturday, one of which seemed to be confirmed by having the proper camera angle from the end zone behind Wilson.

Austin was wide open on the 4th and 6th play much earlier than when Wilson threw the ball... And the camera showed Austin being obscured by a defender... If the camera couldn't see Austin, then neither could Wilson.
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Post by bradshaw2ben » Mon Dec 23, 2024 3:54 pm

jeemie wrote:
Mon Dec 23, 2024 3:51 pm
bradshaw2ben wrote:
Mon Dec 23, 2024 3:45 pm
steelmann58 wrote:
Mon Dec 23, 2024 4:41 am
Not using your Top two TE is kinda mind boggling
I think they;'ve tried to use Friermuth. This is just who he is... hot and cold depending on the defensive scheme. In certain situations/coverage can be a useful tool but he isn't a continual matchup problem.
I'm not kidding that I think Wilson, because of his short height, has been missing open receivers over the middle... Middle... I counted at least two on Saturday, one of which seemed to be confirmed by having the proper camera angle from the end zone behind Wilson.

Austin was wide open on the 4th and 6th play much earlier than when Wilson threw the ball... And the camera showed Austin being obscured by a defender... If the camera couldn't see Austin, then neither could Wilson.
Yeah, Wilson has always had low targets/production to TEs. But IIRC, he targets MOF at a normal rate. Maybe he just doesn't like TEs. I mentioned this as a concern in an Arthur Smith offense that primarily puts TEs on the field and rarely throws to WR2 or WR3.
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Post by jeemie » Mon Dec 23, 2024 4:16 pm

bradshaw2ben wrote:
Mon Dec 23, 2024 3:42 pm
jeemie wrote:
Mon Dec 23, 2024 2:58 am
bradshaw2ben wrote:
Mon Dec 23, 2024 2:34 am


It’s not about the Bengals catching the Steelers… it’s about how far can they fall in the standings if they lose the next two.

The answer is, they are probably going to be the 5 seed but becoming the 6 or even the 7th is not impossible. I don’t think they really want to be going to Buffalo or Baltimore at this point.

One good thing is: if there’s a chance for the Steelers to fall to the 7 seed then Cincy will be eliminated before the week 18 game.
Either the Chargers or Broncos are gonna lose one more game so I’m not concerned.

I don’t see Baltimore being any more difficult than Houston so 5 or 6 doesn’t matter to me.
I don't think a road game at either Baltimore nor Houston is gonna be a cakewalk. Houston and PIT are about even on a neutral field. Stroud carved our defense the last time, if memory serves. Baltimore just beat them by multiple TDs. I'm not sure there's a great matchup available to the Steelers unless they win out or BAL loses. I guess I'd rather have HOU without Dell.
Look I’m not going to disagree, but the Ravens got 21 points off of turnovers, including one unforced error and one aggressive error from Wilson (the pick six to Humphrey I saw as soon as he threw it…you can’t blame that on scheme…Wilson just completely fucked up. I’m not going to blame him as much for the fumble…he was going all out to score right there).

Those don’t happen, and we are talking a different game, perhaps.

Just saying.

Only matchup I think is a guaranteed loss is to Buffalo…so for that reason I don’t want the Steelers falling to the seven seed.
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Post by Orangesteel » Mon Dec 23, 2024 4:27 pm

HOU defense is tough and their coaching is superior to ours.

But I’d rather face Stroud than Lamar again. Without Dell and Diggs you really only need to stop Mixon and Collins. Mixon is a baller but he’s not King Henry.

Steelers need to man up and win the division. It’s that simple. You always play to have a home playoff game. Enough bullshit.
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Post by bradshaw2ben » Mon Dec 23, 2024 4:55 pm

jeemie wrote:
Mon Dec 23, 2024 4:16 pm
bradshaw2ben wrote:
Mon Dec 23, 2024 3:42 pm
jeemie wrote:
Mon Dec 23, 2024 2:58 am


Either the Chargers or Broncos are gonna lose one more game so I’m not concerned.

I don’t see Baltimore being any more difficult than Houston so 5 or 6 doesn’t matter to me.
I don't think a road game at either Baltimore nor Houston is gonna be a cakewalk. Houston and PIT are about even on a neutral field. Stroud carved our defense the last time, if memory serves. Baltimore just beat them by multiple TDs. I'm not sure there's a great matchup available to the Steelers unless they win out or BAL loses. I guess I'd rather have HOU without Dell.
Look I’m not going to disagree, but the Ravens got 21 points off of turnovers, including one unforced error and one aggressive error from Wilson (the pick six to Humphrey I saw as soon as he threw it…you can’t blame that on scheme…Wilson just completely fucked up. I’m not going to blame him as much for the fumble…he was going all out to score right there).

Those don’t happen, and we are talking a different game, perhaps.

Just saying.

Only matchup I think is a guaranteed loss is to Buffalo…so for that reason I don’t want the Steelers falling to the seven seed.
The pick 6 happened on a stupid playcall that Arthur Smith goes to over and over again-- almost as if it's the kind of play he calls when he doesn't know what else to call. The receiver rounded the route a little and YES is was a throw that is so routine for the Steelers that Wilson probably wasn't even thinking, just throwing.

Anyway, Baltimore's defense has been had at times this year, but that is a vastly superior team. Don't be fooled by a few playes here and there. They could easily have won that game by 21 or more, so even accounting for the mistakes and bad calls that cost points, it still would likely be a decisive win in the postseason.
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Post by .Kodiak » Mon Dec 23, 2024 5:59 pm

Deuce will be thrilled with a home playoff game even if they get stomped again. Probably give Tomlin another 5 year extension.

If they manage to actually win a playoff game....coach for life.

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Post by 955876 » Mon Dec 23, 2024 7:47 pm

Stosh-67 wrote:
Mon Dec 23, 2024 3:01 am
Legit questions...
How about this one.

Will Darnell Washington have more targets in the last 2, than he did in the previous 3.

ONE target in the last 3 games.
Criminally Negligent.

2 targets and 1 catch over last 4 games.
:evil:

After a 5 game stretch in which he had 11 catches on 15 targets for 127 yards...11.5 avg
Including receptions of 18, 25 and 29

This guy should be a weapon.
Was building nice momentum.
Was striking down the middle..
On top of his routes to the right edge.
They had attempted a few TE screens to him a few weeks ago.... that did not click...tipped passes.
He may be the biggest visable target that little Russel is able to see over his line.
He should have an easy catch or two between hashes every week....chip/shed... run 5-7 and turn.
LB or S would have to run thru 6'-7" and 295... to break up a pass.

He would be a 50-60+ catch TE in a modern NFL offense.

I believe Tomlin is of the mindset, that once DW started making big plays.... that he should keep him a hidden commodity .... to keep under wraps...
To spring him and suprise with him down the road.

We fail to plan on Monday thru Saturday...
With conclusive results on Sundays.
This team constantly doubles down on dumb.

Mind boggling that we ignore big ass Darnell Washington as well as our “#1 TE” Friermuth all while Pickens has been out.

All made even worse by extending Friermuth.

If he can’t get open don’t extend him.

If you don’t plan to throw to him don’t extend him.

Momma always says that stupid is as stupid does.

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Post by jeemie » Mon Dec 23, 2024 7:50 pm

bradshaw2ben wrote:
Mon Dec 23, 2024 4:55 pm
jeemie wrote:
Mon Dec 23, 2024 4:16 pm
bradshaw2ben wrote:
Mon Dec 23, 2024 3:42 pm

I don't think a road game at either Baltimore nor Houston is gonna be a cakewalk. Houston and PIT are about even on a neutral field. Stroud carved our defense the last time, if memory serves. Baltimore just beat them by multiple TDs. I'm not sure there's a great matchup available to the Steelers unless they win out or BAL loses. I guess I'd rather have HOU without Dell.
Look I’m not going to disagree, but the Ravens got 21 points off of turnovers, including one unforced error and one aggressive error from Wilson (the pick six to Humphrey I saw as soon as he threw it…you can’t blame that on scheme…Wilson just completely fucked up. I’m not going to blame him as much for the fumble…he was going all out to score right there).

Those don’t happen, and we are talking a different game, perhaps.

Just saying.

Only matchup I think is a guaranteed loss is to Buffalo…so for that reason I don’t want the Steelers falling to the seven seed.
The pick 6 happened on a stupid playcall that Arthur Smith goes to over and over again-- almost as if it's the kind of play he calls when he doesn't know what else to call. The receiver rounded the route a little and YES is was a throw that is so routine for the Steelers that Wilson probably wasn't even thinking, just throwing.

Anyway, Baltimore's defense has been had at times this year, but that is a vastly superior team. Don't be fooled by a few playes here and there. They could easily have won that game by 21 or more, so even accounting for the mistakes and bad calls that cost points, it still would likely be a decisive win in the postseason.
Pittsburgh isn’t great, but Baltimore is not vastly superior either.

Only teams worth anything in the AFC are Buffalo, and Kansas City because of the Reid/Mahomes thing (that and the NFL loves them some Swifties eyeballs).

The Super Bowl will be a matchup of two of these four teams…Detroit/Philadelphia/Buffalo/Kansas City. MAYBE Green Bay slips through in the NFC but it’s one of Buffalo or KC in the AFC for sure.
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Post by steelmann58 » Mon Dec 23, 2024 8:00 pm

Won’t happen keep extending Tomlin

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Post by bradshaw2ben » Tue Dec 24, 2024 4:08 am

jeemie wrote:
Mon Dec 23, 2024 7:50 pm
bradshaw2ben wrote:
Mon Dec 23, 2024 4:55 pm
jeemie wrote:
Mon Dec 23, 2024 4:16 pm


Look I’m not going to disagree, but the Ravens got 21 points off of turnovers, including one unforced error and one aggressive error from Wilson (the pick six to Humphrey I saw as soon as he threw it…you can’t blame that on scheme…Wilson just completely fucked up. I’m not going to blame him as much for the fumble…he was going all out to score right there).

Those don’t happen, and we are talking a different game, perhaps.

Just saying.

Only matchup I think is a guaranteed loss is to Buffalo…so for that reason I don’t want the Steelers falling to the seven seed.
The pick 6 happened on a stupid playcall that Arthur Smith goes to over and over again-- almost as if it's the kind of play he calls when he doesn't know what else to call. The receiver rounded the route a little and YES is was a throw that is so routine for the Steelers that Wilson probably wasn't even thinking, just throwing.

Anyway, Baltimore's defense has been had at times this year, but that is a vastly superior team. Don't be fooled by a few playes here and there. They could easily have won that game by 21 or more, so even accounting for the mistakes and bad calls that cost points, it still would likely be a decisive win in the postseason.
Pittsburgh isn’t great, but Baltimore is not vastly superior either.

Only teams worth anything in the AFC are Buffalo, and Kansas City because of the Reid/Mahomes thing (that and the NFL loves them some Swifties eyeballs).

The Super Bowl will be a matchup of two of these four teams…Detroit/Philadelphia/Buffalo/Kansas City. MAYBE Green Bay slips through in the NFC but it’s one of Buffalo or KC in the AFC for sure.
The talent level between Baltimore and Pittsburgh isn’t all that close to me. If you look roster to roster it’s pretty obvious. There are no Larry Ogunjobis or Scottie Millers getting PT.
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Post by Steeldrama » Tue Dec 24, 2024 4:42 am

bradshaw2ben wrote:
Tue Dec 24, 2024 4:08 am
jeemie wrote:
Mon Dec 23, 2024 7:50 pm
bradshaw2ben wrote:
Mon Dec 23, 2024 4:55 pm

The pick 6 happened on a stupid playcall that Arthur Smith goes to over and over again-- almost as if it's the kind of play he calls when he doesn't know what else to call. The receiver rounded the route a little and YES is was a throw that is so routine for the Steelers that Wilson probably wasn't even thinking, just throwing.

Anyway, Baltimore's defense has been had at times this year, but that is a vastly superior team. Don't be fooled by a few playes here and there. They could easily have won that game by 21 or more, so even accounting for the mistakes and bad calls that cost points, it still would likely be a decisive win in the postseason.
Pittsburgh isn’t great, but Baltimore is not vastly superior either.

Only teams worth anything in the AFC are Buffalo, and Kansas City because of the Reid/Mahomes thing (that and the NFL loves them some Swifties eyeballs).

The Super Bowl will be a matchup of two of these four teams…Detroit/Philadelphia/Buffalo/Kansas City. MAYBE Green Bay slips through in the NFC but it’s one of Buffalo or KC in the AFC for sure.
The talent level between Baltimore and Pittsburgh isn’t all that close to me. If you look roster to roster it’s pretty obvious. There are no Larry Ogunjobis or Scottie Millers getting PT.
You’re right of course

But

Put Lamar and King Henry on the Steelers and stick the Rats with Russ and Najee well then I’ll take Tomlin over Harbaugh 10 of the next 10 instead of just 8

Many caveats here including Tomlin and Uncle Artie not knowing what the hell to do with Lamar but that’s a separate hypothetical topic

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Post by W&M_Steeler » Tue Dec 24, 2024 2:16 pm

bradshaw2ben wrote:
Tue Dec 24, 2024 4:08 am
jeemie wrote:
Mon Dec 23, 2024 7:50 pm
bradshaw2ben wrote:
Mon Dec 23, 2024 4:55 pm

The pick 6 happened on a stupid playcall that Arthur Smith goes to over and over again-- almost as if it's the kind of play he calls when he doesn't know what else to call. The receiver rounded the route a little and YES is was a throw that is so routine for the Steelers that Wilson probably wasn't even thinking, just throwing.

Anyway, Baltimore's defense has been had at times this year, but that is a vastly superior team. Don't be fooled by a few playes here and there. They could easily have won that game by 21 or more, so even accounting for the mistakes and bad calls that cost points, it still would likely be a decisive win in the postseason.
Pittsburgh isn’t great, but Baltimore is not vastly superior either.

Only teams worth anything in the AFC are Buffalo, and Kansas City because of the Reid/Mahomes thing (that and the NFL loves them some Swifties eyeballs).

The Super Bowl will be a matchup of two of these four teams…Detroit/Philadelphia/Buffalo/Kansas City. MAYBE Green Bay slips through in the NFC but it’s one of Buffalo or KC in the AFC for sure.
The talent level between Baltimore and Pittsburgh isn’t all that close to me. If you look roster to roster it’s pretty obvious. There are no Larry Ogunjobis or Scottie Millers getting PT.
Agreed. The Ravens are much closer to the Chiefs and Bills than they are to the Steelers. The Ravens offense is much more talented overall than the Steelers' offense. Other than George Pickens, I don't think there's a Steeler who would start on the Ravens' offense. The Ravens defense isn't that much worse than the Steelers' in terms of talent.

The Ravens are a legit Super Bowl contender. The Steelers aren't, even with Pickens- the offense simply lacks talent. The Ravens are a top 5 team in the league right now. The Steelers might be top 10 on a good day.

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Post by bradshaw2ben » Tue Dec 24, 2024 6:38 pm

Steeldrama wrote:
Tue Dec 24, 2024 4:42 am
bradshaw2ben wrote:
Tue Dec 24, 2024 4:08 am
jeemie wrote:
Mon Dec 23, 2024 7:50 pm


Pittsburgh isn’t great, but Baltimore is not vastly superior either.

Only teams worth anything in the AFC are Buffalo, and Kansas City because of the Reid/Mahomes thing (that and the NFL loves them some Swifties eyeballs).

The Super Bowl will be a matchup of two of these four teams…Detroit/Philadelphia/Buffalo/Kansas City. MAYBE Green Bay slips through in the NFC but it’s one of Buffalo or KC in the AFC for sure.
The talent level between Baltimore and Pittsburgh isn’t all that close to me. If you look roster to roster it’s pretty obvious. There are no Larry Ogunjobis or Scottie Millers getting PT.
You’re right of course

But

Put Lamar and King Henry on the Steelers and stick the Rats with Russ and Najee well then I’ll take Tomlin over Harbaugh 10 of the next 10 instead of just 8

Many caveats here including Tomlin and Uncle Artie not knowing what the hell to do with Lamar but that’s a separate hypothetical topic

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Post by CKSteeler » Tue Dec 24, 2024 8:40 pm

Prediction - Steelers get their asses kicked no matter who they play. Denver is playing far better football than they were when the Steelers beat them. Sean Payton will out coach Tomlin.

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Post by Still Diesel » Wed Dec 25, 2024 1:12 am

Tomlin gonna do everything he can to win the division and ensure home game.

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