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[Gonzo]

People seem to forget the slow decline since Arians, even Haley...

Six years wasted on Fichtner and Canada.

Arians took all the risk-taking with him when he left the building. He was an incredible counter-weight to Tomlin’s risk aversion… but lost the power struggle and you see where the franchise is now.

Arians: 6-3 an postseason as a head coach and 5-3 as a Steelers OC (plus damn near won as CLE OC with Kelly Holcomb vs a superior Steelers team).

Steelers with Ben, after Arians: 3-6 in postseason

arians and lebeau being run out of town by this gang of fools should have tipped eveyone off.
Arians being mildly humiliated as a kicker
and imagine the type of people who believed the reasoning behind removing arians -- relationship too good with his QB, wants to score points too fast, too many risks ..... and ten years plus on from success and ten years plus of stifling, boring and losing play ... and they still think theya re right

they should study at some MBA program and psychiatry PHD program, the group-think, protectionism that has poisoned and rotted the steelers

[gojira5150]

LOSE
LOSE
LOSE

This whole organization needs to lose, and lose again, and then lose some more, and then after they're done losing they can try losing again, and then the week after that lose, and then turn right around and lose again, and then they can switch it up by losing, follow it up by losing again, and then take all the coupons they've saved up and turn them in so they can lose again, and lose right after that, and wouldn't you know it by god they lose again, and then consider losing the next one too right after they end up losing.

We have to pour all of our collective efforts, hopes, and dreams into an apocalyptic level of despair and ugliness for this franchise.

The entire organization needs to be humbled hard. Humbled in a way that makes them question everything they've ever thought they've known or believed in.

The idea of sincerely rooting for Mike Tomlin's team to win another game 16-13 is literally sickening to me.

Lose often.
Lose ugly.
Lose. Lose. Lose. Lose. Lose.

We need next year to be the worst season in Steelers history, or at least since 1969.

We're not crawling out of this. Abandon all hope ye who enter here. We are but a cur'sed lot that deserve no pity and certainly no forgiveness. Only a desolate, unending road that winds itself through the cold, pitch black darkness.

Shall we take a stroll?

Great post. This is just Unbelievable. I just don't care anymore as long as Jibba is HC. He's sucked all the life out of rooting for the Stillers. I hope they go 2-15 next year. I have friends who are diehard Steelers fans, and they feel the sameway.

[Gonzo]

LOSE
LOSE
LOSE

This whole organization needs to lose, and lose again, and then lose some more, and then after they're done losing they can try losing again, and then the week after that lose, and then turn right around and lose again, and then they can switch it up by losing, follow it up by losing again, and then take all the coupons they've saved up and turn them in so they can lose again, and lose right after that, and wouldn't you know it by god they lose again, and then consider losing the next one too right after they end up losing.

We have to pour all of our collective efforts, hopes, and dreams into an apocalyptic level of despair and ugliness for this franchise.

The entire organization needs to be humbled hard. Humbled in a way that makes them question everything they've ever thought they've known or believed in.

The idea of sincerely rooting for Mike Tomlin's team to win another game 16-13 is literally sickening to me.

Lose often.
Lose ugly.
Lose. Lose. Lose. Lose. Lose.

We need next year to be the worst season in Steelers history, or at least since 1969.

We're not crawling out of this. Abandon all hope ye who enter here. We are but a cur'sed lot that deserve no pity and certainly no forgiveness. Only a desolate, unending road that winds itself through the cold, pitch black darkness.

Shall we take a stroll?

Great post. This is just Unbelievable. I just don't care anymore as long as Jibba is HC. He's sucked all the life out of rooting for the Stillers. I hope they go 2-15 next year. I have friends who are diehard Steelers fans, and they feel the sameway.

with the previous coach/steeler team ... even when they lost you rooted for them and love how they played and the brand.
that has been gone for a long time -- its a stale, boring, failing product

[gojira5150]

LOSE
LOSE
LOSE

This whole organization needs to lose, and lose again, and then lose some more, and then after they're done losing they can try losing again, and then the week after that lose, and then turn right around and lose again, and then they can switch it up by losing, follow it up by losing again, and then take all the coupons they've saved up and turn them in so they can lose again, and lose right after that, and wouldn't you know it by god they lose again, and then consider losing the next one too right after they end up losing.

We have to pour all of our collective efforts, hopes, and dreams into an apocalyptic level of despair and ugliness for this franchise.

The entire organization needs to be humbled hard. Humbled in a way that makes them question everything they've ever thought they've known or believed in.

The idea of sincerely rooting for Mike Tomlin's team to win another game 16-13 is literally sickening to me.

Lose often.
Lose ugly.
Lose. Lose. Lose. Lose. Lose.

We need next year to be the worst season in Steelers history, or at least since 1969.

We're not crawling out of this. Abandon all hope ye who enter here. We are but a cur'sed lot that deserve no pity and certainly no forgiveness. Only a desolate, unending road that winds itself through the cold, pitch black darkness.

Shall we take a stroll?

Great post. This is just Unbelievable. I just don't care anymore as long as Jibba is HC. He's sucked all the life out of rooting for the Stillers. I hope they go 2-15 next year. I have friends who are diehard Steelers fans, and they feel the sameway.

with the previous coach/steeler team ... even when they lost you rooted for them and love how they played and the brand.
that has been gone for a long time -- its a stale, boring, failing product

Exactly. I loved watching Cowher's team and how they played. Innovative (5 Wide, Slash, 3-4 Zone Blitz) knocking dudes out. I remember when Rod blitzed Warren Moon, clocked him and when he was on the bench, his eyes were the size of silver dollars. At least Cowher made it to multiple AFCCG, whereas the Bug Eyed Fool Jibba Jabba gets Destroyed in wild card games

[langer]

Great post. This is just Unbelievable. I just don't care anymore as long as Jibba is HC. He's sucked all the life out of rooting for the Stillers. I hope they go 2-15 next year. I have friends who are diehard Steelers fans, and they feel the sameway.

with the previous coach/steeler team ... even when they lost you rooted for them and love how they played and the brand.
that has been gone for a long time -- its a stale, boring, failing product

Exactly. I loved watching Cowher's team and how they played. Innovative (5 Wide, Slash, 3-4 Zone Blitz) knocking dudes out. I remember when Rod blitzed Warren Moon, clocked him and when he was on the bench, his eyes were the size of silver dollars. At least Cowher made it to multiple AFCCG, whereas the Bug Eyed Fool Jibba Jabba gets Destroyed in wild card games

Those times when they absolutely kicked the hell out of Jim Harbaugh, tough bastard imo, and made Farve puke his guts out on the bench. Big Snack taking out Eddie George in the middle of the air, cleaned his clock.

That was Steeler football.

Not this quitting shit.

[955876]

He's sucked all the life out of rooting for the Stillers

Got that right.

Getting close to not being able to stomach a Steelers game.

They are pathetic in all aspects.

[DumlinBumlinStumlin]

Do we consider this one of the first of Tomlin's coaching tree limbs? since he came from College prior, that be a yes.......but lets call it what it is

NFL Network’s Tom Pelissero reports the Falcons will interview Steelers secondary coach Grady Brown for their defensive coordinator vacancy. Brown has spent the last three seasons as the Steelers’ secondary coach and has also spent time as a defensive backs coach and cornerbacks coach at the college ranks from 2010-2019. In 2022, he helped the Steelers finish first in interceptions (22) and also coached Minkah Fitzpatrick to a First-Team All-Pro finish in the same season.

Steelers Bio/Schpeel

Grady Brown is in his third season as the team's secondary coach. He was hired on Feb. 16, 2021.

With the help of Brown, the Steelers defense tied for the NFL lead with 20 interceptions in 2022. Minkah Fitzpatrick was named AP First Team All-Pro for the third time in his career. His six interceptions in 2022 were the most by a Steeler in a single season since 2010 (Troy Polamalu) and tied for 12th-most in a single season in franchise history.

In his first season with the Steelers, Brown's defensive backs combined for 11 interceptions, led by cornerback Ahkello Witherspoon who snagged three picks in just nine games. Fitzpatrick tallied a career-high 124 tackles on the season - his first NFL season with 100+ tackles.

Brown previously served as either defensive coordinator or coached in the secondary at the University of Houston (2021), McNeese State (2020), Old Dominion (2019), Louisville (2018), Alabama State (2017), Birmingham Southern (2016), South Carolina (2012-15), Southern Miss (2010-11) and Alabama State (2002-07). He started his collegiate coaching career as the outside linebackers coach at Alabama A&M (2001).

Brown also held two National Football League minority coaching internships, first with Seattle in 2004 and then with Kansas City in 2007.

During his tenure at South Carolina, Brown helped guide units that finished in the top 25 nationally in both scoring and total defense. The Gamecocks surrendered just 315.5 yards/game, which ranked 11th in the country in total defense in 2012. South Carolina also ranked 13th in the nation in scoring defense that season when it allowed only 18.2 points/game. The Gamecocks improved in 2013 and ranked 12th nationally in scoring defense (20.3 points/game).

Brown's secondary ranked third in the Southeastern Conference and 12th in the nation in pass defense in 2013, allowing 196.2 passing yards/game. South Carolina finished second in the SEC and 13th in the nation in interceptions with 18.

Brown also tutored safety D.J. Swearinger, who was a second round NFL Draft pick in 2013 out of South Carolina and just completed his eighth season in the NFL.

Brown helped lead Southern Miss to a Conference USA Championship in 2011. His secondary ranked fourth nationally in interceptions, seventh in pass efficiency defense, 10th in passing yards allowed/attempt and set an NCAA single-season record with eight interceptions returned for touchdowns.

A native of Birmingham, Ala., Brown played defensive back at Alabama A&M and graduated with a degree in mathematics in 1998.

[gpclay]

I will say, though, that I wasn’t loving Cowher ball over 1998-1999 and 2003 (although that 6-10 did get us Ben). Definitely more to love there relative to the current situation but certainly not all roses.

[Steelersfan]

I will say, though, that I wasn’t loving Cowher ball over 1998-1999 and 2003 (although that 6-10 did get us Ben). Definitely more to love there relative to the current situation but certainly not all roses.

I get what you are saying, but look at & reread what you just posted..... To me 3 years out of MANY & not consecutive is something not to damning or to worry about. Nobody on this site EVER said they couldn't live with a down season or even two, here & there. That's just football. Its the 6-7 year on & on & on of sucking & sucking with the exact same type shit scheme & plan going forward, with no even slight attempt to change, adapt, regroup.

In the 3 down years you mention with Cowher, there was change & adaptation, to help lead to reshape the teams trajectory.

Better yet, all 3 of Cowhers bad years you mention, we had multiple players at multiple positions that were on an ascending (being coached up) career plane/path. He had hall of fame type coaches working under him.

Name me one player you believe on this team that has improved from the time Tomlin acquired them in the last 6 years/seasons??? Betcha you have a very hard time. Name just one, any position? I can be talked into maybe Boswell & T.J. If you squint hard maybe you can say Cam & Warren were on an even plane. And after this off season, I'm not sure we have a single player trending up.

[Stlcrtn1974]

with the previous coach/steeler team ... even when they lost you rooted for them and love how they played and the brand.
that has been gone for a long time -- its a stale, boring, failing product

Exactly. I loved watching Cowher's team and how they played. Innovative (5 Wide, Slash, 3-4 Zone Blitz) knocking dudes out. I remember when Rod blitzed Warren Moon, clocked him and when he was on the bench, his eyes were the size of silver dollars. At least Cowher made it to multiple AFCCG, whereas the Bug Eyed Fool Jibba Jabba gets Destroyed in wild card games

Those times when they absolutely kicked the hell out of Jim Harbaugh, tough bastard imo, and made Farve puke his guts out on the bench. Big Snack taking out Eddie George in the middle of the air, cleaned his clock.

That was Steeler football.

Not this quitting shit.

Wasn't it Levon Kirkland in the playoffs in 02, or are you talking about another time. That fucking FG kicker should of won an Emmy. Who was the coach that purposely poured his hot coffee on I think Porter in that game.

[gpclay]

I will say, though, that I wasn’t loving Cowher ball over 1998-1999 and 2003 (although that 6-10 did get us Ben). Definitely more to love there relative to the current situation but certainly not all roses.

I get what you are saying, but look at & reread what you just posted..... To me 3 years out of MANY & not consecutive is something not to damning or to worry about. Nobody on this site EVER said they couldn't live with a down season or even two, here & there. That's just football. Its the 6-7 year on & on & on of sucking & sucking with the exact same type shit scheme & plan going forward, with no even slight attempt to change, adapt, regroup.

In the 3 down years you mention with Cowher, there was change & adaptation, to help lead to reshape the teams trajectory.

Better yet, all 3 of Cowhers bad years you mention, we had multiple players at multiple positions that were on an ascending (being coached up) career plane/path. He had hall of fame type coaches working under him.

Name me one player you believe on this team that has improved from the time Tomlin acquired them in the last 6 years/seasons??? Betcha you have a very hard time. Name just one, any position? I can be talked into maybe Boswell & T.J. If you squint hard maybe you can say Cam & Warren were on an even plane. And after this off season, I'm not sure we have a single player trending up.

Absolutely not a defense of what is happening now. Just saying it wasn’t all roses with Cowher and the Stillers didn’t really “develop” Kordell. I am as ready as anyone here to end the current madness.

[Gonzo]

My point wasn’t to say it was all roses with Cowher
I fumed over turtle ball many times
But loved those teams and their brand of football especially with Big Ben …. winning, losing, turtling … I stilled lobed those teams … players, coaches, effort and brand

[Who Dee Knee]

Tomlin has broken my spirit as a Steelers fan. I don’t care anymore because Art2 doesn’t.

I could go for a total tear-down and tank. The Penguins tanked in 1983-84 and wound up with Mario, The NFL has no draft lottery.

Bring back Fields on a reasonable deal, along with Elandon. Holcomb also if healthy.

Cut Larry O, Seumalu, Preston Smith.

Huge cap room to sign FAs either in 2025 or rolled over to 2026.

Trade TJ for a #1 in 2026, and Pickens and Minkah for #2s in 2026.

Steelers 2026 picks, first three rounds:
1.1
1.16
2.33
2.41
2.47
3.65

[langer]

Exactly. I loved watching Cowher's team and how they played. Innovative (5 Wide, Slash, 3-4 Zone Blitz) knocking dudes out. I remember when Rod blitzed Warren Moon, clocked him and when he was on the bench, his eyes were the size of silver dollars. At least Cowher made it to multiple AFCCG, whereas the Bug Eyed Fool Jibba Jabba gets Destroyed in wild card games

Those times when they absolutely kicked the hell out of Jim Harbaugh, tough bastard imo, and made Farve puke his guts out on the bench. Big Snack taking out Eddie George in the middle of the air, cleaned his clock.

That was Steeler football.

Not this quitting shit.

Wasn't it Levon Kirkland in the playoffs in 02, or are you talking about another time. That fucking FG kicker should of won an Emmy. Who was the coach that purposely poured his hot coffee on I think Porter in that game.

I think the one Im talking about was a MNF game. Hampton came crashing in head first and walloped George right in his melon. Knocked out cold.

[W&M_Steeler]

Those times when they absolutely kicked the hell out of Jim Harbaugh, tough bastard imo, and made Farve puke his guts out on the bench. Big Snack taking out Eddie George in the middle of the air, cleaned his clock.

That was Steeler football.

Not this quitting shit.

Wasn't it Levon Kirkland in the playoffs in 02, or are you talking about another time. That fucking FG kicker should of won an Emmy. Who was the coach that purposely poured his hot coffee on I think Porter in that game.

I think the one Im talking about was a MNF game. Hampton came crashing in head first and walloped George right in his melon. Knocked out cold.

I remember Hampton knocking Eddie George out cold, but I also thought it was in that 2002 Divisional Round game.

[langer]

Wasn't it Levon Kirkland in the playoffs in 02, or are you talking about another time. That fucking FG kicker should of won an Emmy. Who was the coach that purposely poured his hot coffee on I think Porter in that game.

I think the one Im talking about was a MNF game. Hampton came crashing in head first and walloped George right in his melon. Knocked out cold.

I remember Hampton knocking Eddie George out cold, but I also thought it was in that 2002 Divisional Round game.

My memory is not that good, I’m not a chemist.

[steelmann58]

hearing the one coach who deal is up is Dunbar

[blu]

Exactly. This was the number 1 paid defense in the league. This was Tomlin's year to prove he could win like with it like the 2000 Ravens. This is the offense Tomlin wants. This is the defense Tomlin wants. The defense didn't even have any significant injuries- all the starters played in the Ravens game. And they got absolutely humiliated. Tomlin is never winning anything again, and wouldn't even if you gave him Mahomes on a vet minimum contract.

This. All of this. Tomlin isn't saddled with a subpar team. He build the subpar team. This is the kind of team that he thinks can win a SB.

I think this is up for debate, as strange as it sounds.

Does he really want a team that wins a SB. To me, I see someone who is ok with clocking out early. He hits the playoffs then the mentality is to get out as quickly as possible. He may not even realize he's doing it.

I maintain this team is in dire need of a team of sports psychologists to do a forensic study of how everything is run. He only answers to someone who may not be all there.

He's Col Kurtz in Apocalypse Now.

Probably more like Col. Klink in Hogan's Heroes.

[Steeldrama]

Probably more like Col. Klink in Hogan's Heroes.

Sums him up nicely

[blu]

Not to glorify Cowher known as Field Goal Bill & with posters like Killcowher & Fukcowher for good reason. But Cowher could change his ways to win a SB instead of same old same old along with hiring coaches who were excellent. Cowher was able to yell at his players & growl rather than be the players' coach whose players knew that as long as you show up on time that all is well.

[Gonzo]

Tomlin has already said -- they need a QB to who likes to "play ball our way"

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[DumlinBumlinStumlin]

Cowher Coaching Tree or Arians, maybe Bowles

FOX Sports’ Jordan Schultz reports Buccaneers inside linebackers coach and pass game coordinator “Larry Foote is expected to interview with the Lions” for their defensive coordinator vacancy.
Foote’s multifaceted role makes him an intriguing option for the Lions. Steeped in Todd Bowles’ blitz-heavy scheme, Foote could bring an aggressive mentality to a talented defense that suffered myriad injuries in 2024.