Let’s Wait On McCarthy

[TTP]

One of the biggest mistakes that pro sports franchises make is not understanding where they are on the success cycle. This is the Steelers. They believe that they are championship contenders. Its totally delusional. Thus, they make moves like bringing in DK and Rodgers, patch up holes on the D with older vets, etc. In reality, however, the Steelers are a team that is mediocre at best and probably declining. They should be looking to rebuild rather than reload.

Hiring McCarthy is just more of the same delusional mindset.

[swissvale72]

This Swiss guy sure is retarded.

Oh...because I'm no so certain about predicting next season as asshats like you and others?? Care to tell us what's going to happen?

[RemoAZ]

It's over so all I'm looking at is if he hires QUALITY coaches, something Tomlin NEVER did. Just as I thought Tomlin would be a great coach if he did, the new Mike can win most of us over by bringing in coaches, especially coordinators that are good enough to get HC gigs. He did that in Dallas. Hopefully he can be more successful in the playoffs doing that here. Just think what a top notch DC could do with the pass rush talent this team has. If you listen to how Gruden talks about Will Howard, having a guy that has coached so many proven QBs doesn't hurt either.

[Steelafan77]

My opinion of this move is ownership doesn’t want ‘rebuild’ on his watch.

As short sighted and self serving that is this owner rather genuflect to mediocrity.

Until this owner moves on from control over football operations, the ‘we do what we do’ product is all we can expect.

[DumlinBumlinStumlin]

Swiss, i get it you're getting up there, but do you watch the games, other teams, coaches, etc?

Can you make your opinion that void of factual evidence, so cavalier that you've convinced yourself of your belief system

It goes back to your pretending mindset

Seems like it's false prognosticators like you, convinced, "void of factual evidence," that the McCarthy hire is bound to fail.

Funny how you asshats cite my age....retirement just gives me more time to watch, and to pay attention to things. Weak fuckin argument asshats like you use to discredit.

lets take the age out of it cause i am closer to 60 than 50...............you don't take a full picture view of things. I think McCarthy would say anything to get his next meal ticket. His attention to detail has waned bad.. Will he succeed here, maybe but i am not betting on it.

Maybe you should go back and watch old GB and Dallas games and see the sheer stupidity that is McCarthy. Start taking notes on other things going on in this crazy league.

Ill happily hang my hat that Tomlin is gone and i said in early season it would be his last year.

Did i expect this latest flunged poop from Rooney. yes and no

[Mick]

One of the biggest mistakes that pro sports franchises make is not understanding where they are on the success cycle. This is the Steelers. They believe that they are championship contenders. Its totally delusional. Thus, they make moves like bringing in DK and Rodgers, patch up holes on the D with older vets, etc. In reality, however, the Steelers are a team that is mediocre at best and probably declining. They should be looking to rebuild rather than reload.

Hiring McCarthy is just more of the same delusional mindset.

it’s entirely possible to me that they are well aware that we aren’t championship contenders, but are making the conscious choice that they’d rather be a generally over .500 team than a generally below .500 team, because winning football sells more tickets. Sure, they’ll lose the ‘championship or bust’ market segment, but they aren’t likely to make those people happy no matter what.

[DumlinBumlinStumlin]

One of the biggest mistakes that pro sports franchises make is not understanding where they are on the success cycle. This is the Steelers. They believe that they are championship contenders. Its totally delusional. Thus, they make moves like bringing in DK and Rodgers, patch up holes on the D with older vets, etc. In reality, however, the Steelers are a team that is mediocre at best and probably declining. They should be looking to rebuild rather than reload.

Hiring McCarthy is just more of the same delusional mindset.

it’s entirely possible to me that they are well aware that we aren’t championship contenders, but are making the conscious choice that they’d rather be a generally over .500 team than a generally below .500 team, because winning football sells more tickets. Sure, they’ll lose the ‘championship or bust’ market segment, but they aren’t likely to make those people happy no matter what.

It's certainly clear today that NAHLS is an Art 'The Lessor' Production

[955876]

This is another favoritism hire

This right here is the elephant in the room. It isn’t so much about McCarthy as it is the other bullshit Dunce Rooney likely factored.

Pittsburgh guy
Won’t rock the boat
Limits possibility to have a losing season
Will accept bottom feeder coaching staff
Etc etc etc.

Dunce Rooney likely believes he went out in a limb with this hire because Buck Cluck is an offensive guy.

[anpsteel]

My opinion of this move is ownership doesn’t want ‘rebuild’ on his watch.

As short sighted and self serving that is this owner rather genuflect to mediocrity.

Until this owner moves on from control over football operations, the ‘we do what we do’ product is all we can expect.

I think this is a case of Art being too chickenshit to start from scratch.

He’s said before, regarding Tomlin, that a new coach could be worse.

Rather than hire a promising young coach, he went with tried and true mediocrity

As we’ve all learned, Art is the CEO of living in his fears

[Boukman]

This is another favoritism hire

This right here is the elephant in the room. It isn’t so much about McCarthy as it is the other bullshit Dunce Rooney likely factored.

Pittsburgh guy
Won’t rock the boat
Limits possibility to have a losing season
Will accept bottom feeder coaching staff
Etc etc etc.

Dunce Rooney likely believes he went out in a limb with this hire because Buck Cluck is an offensive guy.

Being Irish and Catholic didn’t hurt, too.

[swissvale72]

This is another favoritism hire

This right here is the elephant in the room. It isn’t so much about McCarthy as it is the other bullshit Dunce Rooney likely factored.

Pittsburgh guy
Won’t rock the boat
Limits possibility to have a losing season
Will accept bottom feeder coaching staff
Etc etc etc.

Dunce Rooney likely believes he went out in a limb with this hire because Buck Cluck is an offensive guy.

You're free to disbelieve what Pittsburgh media with sources are saying, but the guy Rooney reportedly favored was Flores. McCarthy was reportedly Kahn's guy

[Stlcrtn1974]

Hate the hire but will let it play out. Key will be, as mentioned above, is the staff he brings in.

[Orangesteel]

One of the biggest mistakes that pro sports franchises make is not understanding where they are on the success cycle. This is the Steelers. They believe that they are championship contenders. Its totally delusional. Thus, they make moves like bringing in DK and Rodgers, patch up holes on the D with older vets, etc. In reality, however, the Steelers are a team that is mediocre at best and probably declining. They should be looking to rebuild rather than reload.

Hiring McCarthy is just more of the same delusional mindset.

These 8 sentences are all that need to be said.

Close the thread down. Thanks.

[955876]

This is another favoritism hire

This right here is the elephant in the room. It isn’t so much about McCarthy as it is the other bullshit Dunce Rooney likely factored.

Pittsburgh guy
Won’t rock the boat
Limits possibility to have a losing season
Will accept bottom feeder coaching staff
Etc etc etc.

Dunce Rooney likely believes he went out in a limb with this hire because Buck Cluck is an offensive guy.

You're free to disbelieve what Pittsburgh media with sources are saying, but the guy Rooney reportedly favored was Flores. McCarthy was reportedly Kahn's guy

Pittsburgh media spent years telling us Bettis was in the best shape of his life. Yet year after year he only showed up fatter. Pittsburgh media serves the team before reporting facts and saying anything critical of the team.

Do you believe Khan has more say than the owner?

I don’t but you can think that if it makes you feel better.

Dunce Rooney “favored Flores” could just be cover for “oh look, the owner really wanted the black man”.

If Rooney really wanted Flores he could have had him.

He was/is available.

[955876]

My opinion of this move is ownership doesn’t want ‘rebuild’ on his watch.

As short sighted and self serving that is this owner rather genuflect to mediocrity.

Until this owner moves on from control over football operations, the ‘we do what we do’ product is all we can expect.

This

[955876]

My opinion of this move is ownership doesn’t want ‘rebuild’ on his watch.

As short sighted and self serving that is this owner rather genuflect to mediocrity.

Until this owner moves on from control over football operations, the ‘we do what we do’ product is all we can expect.

I think this is a case of Art being too chickenshit to start from scratch.

He’s said before, regarding Tomlin, that a new coach could be worse.

Rather than hire a promising young coach, he went with tried and true mediocrity

As we’ve all learned, Art is the CEO of living in his fears

This too

[Gonzo]

My opinion of this move is ownership doesn’t want ‘rebuild’ on his watch.

As short sighted and self serving that is this owner rather genuflect to mediocrity.

Until this owner moves on from control over football operations, the ‘we do what we do’ product is all we can expect.

Look of that chart off success and playoff wins for past three rooneys running the show
First had none and his teams were a disaster but folks loved him
Second had enormous success … maybe all Steelers success … and everyone loved him
Third one has 0 playoff wins … 0-7, no success, and is generally disliked

I think that chart drives this Rooney, he thought he could ride the wave and played it safe. And now it’s too late …. He wont rebuild because he knows he is viewed as a failure and needs anything even one playoff win and NHALS to hag his hat on. He has undoubtedly been a failure.

[blu]

He wasn't my first or second choice but let's see who the offensive & defensive co-ordinators are along with the draft picks. Unlike Tomlin, McCarthy will hopefully pick good ones.

[Steelperch]

McCarthy has never done shit without a franchise QB. The problem is he’s just good enough of a coach to keep the team at that 8-10 win level every year ensuring they won’t ever be in position to draft the next franchise QB. He’s the worst case scenario. Had they hired a young guy and he bombed, they’d be in position to get a top QB and can finally rebuild. You guys are stuck in purgatory,

[swissvale72]

This right here is the elephant in the room. It isn’t so much about McCarthy as it is the other bullshit Dunce Rooney likely factored.

Pittsburgh guy
Won’t rock the boat
Limits possibility to have a losing season
Will accept bottom feeder coaching staff
Etc etc etc.

Dunce Rooney likely believes he went out in a limb with this hire because Buck Cluck is an offensive guy.

You're free to disbelieve what Pittsburgh media with sources are saying, but the guy Rooney reportedly favored was Flores. McCarthy was reportedly Kahn's guy

Pittsburgh media spent years telling us Bettis was in the best shape of his life. Yet year after year he only showed up fatter. Pittsburgh media serves the team before reporting facts and saying anything critical of the team.

Do you believe Khan has more say than the owner?

I don’t but you can think that if it makes you feel better.

Dunce Rooney “favored Flores” could just be cover for “oh look, the owner really wanted the black man”.

If Rooney really wanted Flores he could have had him.

He was/is available.

Doesn't really make me feel better cause I don't give a fuck whose choice it was. It's asshats like you hung up on it being Rooney's choice's

[Gonzo]

who cares whose choice it was
quit moving the post
it's a bad choice
and that's not a statement made in a vacuum .... we have seen this show - this slow slide. there is zero doubt Rooney (or wherever you want to say) believes - honestly or dishonestly - that it is more important to maintain 9-8/10-7 than to risk that for championships. they will not get a franchise QB next year either - because they will be 9-8. so this means they also believe they can win with a re-tread QB coupled with a retread HC. mccarthy is tomlin and harbaugh .... nothing has changed just the faces not in uniform on the sideline.

if you want to just Hope - i am not going to fault you. I just don't see it and believe it is foolish Hope. this is very piratesque just a different scheme with a salary cap

we have seen this Show for 12 year.

this is just a different shade of lipstick on the same Pig.

[SteelerDayTrader]

You're free to disbelieve what Pittsburgh media with sources are saying, but the guy Rooney reportedly favored was Flores. McCarthy was reportedly Kahn's guy

Pittsburgh media spent years telling us Bettis was in the best shape of his life. Yet year after year he only showed up fatter. Pittsburgh media serves the team before reporting facts and saying anything critical of the team.

Do you believe Khan has more say than the owner?

I don’t but you can think that if it makes you feel better.

Dunce Rooney “favored Flores” could just be cover for “oh look, the owner really wanted the black man”.

If Rooney really wanted Flores he could have had him.

He was/is available.

Doesn't really make me feel better cause I don't give a fuck whose choice it was. It's asshats like you hung up on it being Rooney's choice's

Try to see this in a non-Mafia way Swiss

The Rooneys ARE the problem

[StillerDownSouth]

This is another favoritism hire

This right here is the elephant in the room. It isn’t so much about McCarthy as it is the other bullshit Dunce Rooney likely factored.

Pittsburgh guy
Won’t rock the boat
Limits possibility to have a losing season
Will accept bottom feeder coaching staff
Etc etc etc.

Dunce Rooney likely believes he went out in a limb with this hire because Buck Cluck is an offensive guy.

You're free to disbelieve what Pittsburgh media with sources are saying, but the guy Rooney reportedly favored was Flores. McCarthy was reportedly Kahn's guy

Khan and Weidl and McCarthy were all part of the Saints staff back in the day together, good ole boys network at its finest.

[Gonzo]

They are running it back just with a different HC -- Tomlin and Rooney blamed the Players, then Rooney blamed Tomlin and now they found a new HC that also Believes. We will see a continuance of the Plan and a Fake Brand ... all pretending to be Steelers.

I actually dont mind some commitment to the old Steelers style -- smashmouth. What I mind is that its False -- steeler football isnt bland, risk-free, non-innovative mediocrity played in a markedly non-violent and emotionless manner

this a charade

[Gonzo]

and I am done now -- with my belly-aching
its a really bad move and wont be convinced otherwise
no point getting aggravated anymore
we will see the same of the same with a slight risk/hope of abject failure next year

[langer]

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[DumlinBumlinStumlin]

This right here is the elephant in the room. It isn’t so much about McCarthy as it is the other bullshit Dunce Rooney likely factored.

Pittsburgh guy
Won’t rock the boat
Limits possibility to have a losing season
Will accept bottom feeder coaching staff
Etc etc etc.

Dunce Rooney likely believes he went out in a limb with this hire because Buck Cluck is an offensive guy.

You're free to disbelieve what Pittsburgh media with sources are saying, but the guy Rooney reportedly favored was Flores. McCarthy was reportedly Kahn's guy

Khan and Weidl and McCarthy were all part of the Saints staff back in the day together, good ole boys network at its finest.

I mentioned this in another thread. Khan fingers are on this. Rooney is fucking dumb

[Dan Smith--BYU]

"McCarthy has never done shit without a franchise QB."

And who else has? Brian Billick?

And Tomlin couldn't win against McCarthy's 10-6 team with one.

BTW the two coaches in the AFCC both had bum years with former teams.

[955876]

You're free to disbelieve what Pittsburgh media with sources are saying, but the guy Rooney reportedly favored was Flores. McCarthy was reportedly Kahn's guy

Pittsburgh media spent years telling us Bettis was in the best shape of his life. Yet year after year he only showed up fatter. Pittsburgh media serves the team before reporting facts and saying anything critical of the team.

Do you believe Khan has more say than the owner?

I don’t but you can think that if it makes you feel better.

Dunce Rooney “favored Flores” could just be cover for “oh look, the owner really wanted the black man”.

If Rooney really wanted Flores he could have had him.

He was/is available.

Doesn't really make me feel better cause I don't give a fuck whose choice it was. It's asshats like you hung up on it being Rooney's choice's

You don’t think the owner of the team, the man that signs the checks, and whose family has been in charge for 93 years didn’t choose this outcome?

It was forced on him by the almighty “Khan Artist”?

And who said I cared whose choice it was? I care that the choose was made and it’s a choice Dunce Rooney most certainly signed off on.

You get dumber by the day.

[swissvale72]

Pittsburgh media spent years telling us Bettis was in the best shape of his life. Yet year after year he only showed up fatter. Pittsburgh media serves the team before reporting facts and saying anything critical of the team.

Do you believe Khan has more say than the owner?

I don’t but you can think that if it makes you feel better.

Dunce Rooney “favored Flores” could just be cover for “oh look, the owner really wanted the black man”.

If Rooney really wanted Flores he could have had him.

He was/is available.

Doesn't really make me feel better cause I don't give a fuck whose choice it was. It's asshats like you hung up on it being Rooney's choice's

You don’t think the owner of the team, the man that signs the checks, and whose family has been in charge for 93 years didn’t choose this outcome?

It was forced on him by the almighty “Khan Artist”?

And who said I cared whose choice it was? I care that the choose was made and it’s a choice Dunce Rooney most certainly signed off on.

You get dumber by the day.

You're such a fucking asshole 95. Just about every post you grousing about Rooney. I'm just reporting what was reported by Pittsburgh media… Didn't say that was necessarily my belief so shut the fuck up.