3.76 QB Drew Allar, Penn State

[Obviously]

Do we finally have Ben's replacement or Kenny 2.0?

[drmalba]

And now we get to see if McCarthy really is a QB whisperer.
At least 5-10 of Fury's top posters officially moved to suicide watch

[DumlinBumlinStumlin]

Many flaws. Steelers FO just dumb

[Steelperch]

Fuck this pick.

As the guy who’s followed Drew Allar’s career all the way back to high school let me tell you he processes things slow, doesn’t read a defense well, is inaccurate in a clean pocket and absolutely shits his pants under pressure.

He’s big athletic and throws a nice deep ball though. Think Mason Rudolph and Kenny Pickett had a kid, it would be Drew Allar and he’d be in special Ed.

[Louis Lipps Service]

I get the feeling we're going to trade Howard.

If Rodgers does come back (and I hope he doesn't), we have 4 QBs on the roster.

Logic would say that they keep the two prospects and trade Mason, and I'd be fine with that...but I'd bet $500 the Steelers won't do that and risk going into the season with zero experience behind a 43 year old QB.

If Rogers doesn't come back, then we're honestly in the same boat anyways with Mason as the starter, and zero experience behind him. And the clinically risk-adverse Steelers won't go into a season with zero experience behind their starter and let an injury derail the fantasy Super Bowl run they always think they're going to go on.

And what does this look like if a real QB prospect becomes available next year in the draft?

All of these would be perfectly acceptable problems if Allar was someone with a good probability of success. But he's not. I don't watch much college football, but did watch a decent amount of PSU games, and Allar looked mentally broken to me. He looked terrified of even throwing a pass, let alone actually read a defense. I definitely don't see him as someone worth this quagmire we're creating for ourselves.

[anpsteel]

With so many real needs, this is a terrible pick


Another shitty qb isn’t on the list

wtf

[DumlinBumlinStumlin]

I get the feeling we're going to trade Howard.

If Rodgers does come back (and I hope he doesn't), we have 4 QBs on the roster.

Logic would say that they keep the two prospects and trade Mason, and I'd be fine with that...but I'd bet $500 the Steelers won't do that and risk going into the season with zero experience behind a 43 year old QB.

If Rogers doesn't come back, then we're honestly in the same boat anyways with Mason as the starter, and zero experience behind him. And the clinically risk-adverse Steelers won't go into a season with zero experience behind their starter and let an injury derail the fantasy Super Bowl run they always think they're going to go on.

And what does this look like if a real QB prospect becomes available next year in the draft?

All of these would be perfectly acceptable problems if Allar was someone with a good probability of success. But he's not. I don't watch much college football, but did watch a decent amount of PSU games, and Allar looked mentally broken to me. He looked terrified of even throwing a pass, let alone actually read a defense. I definitely don't see him as someone worth this quagmire we're creating for ourselves.

Depot is reporting we’ll be shopping Mason

[Dan Smith--BYU]

Ceiling: Neil O'Donnell
Floor: Landry Jones

[Steelperch]

Ceiling: Neil O'Donnell
Floor: Landry Jones

O’Donnell was way more accurate and savvy as a QB. Allar will never be in that stratosphere.

[AirRescueFF]

Aaaaaand there goes Pregnon.

[Steelafan77]

Aaaaaand there goes Pregnon.

Gennings Dunker not a bad consolation prize….

[Steeldrama]

We’ve known for years Allar would be a Steeler

Doesn’t mean I didn’t cringe when his name was announced.

I liked one of the four day 2 picks

Roll
Tide

[CoolShades]

Drew Allar is a terrible pick.

Why the panic? Why take a massive project with a 3rd round pick?

I can’t see them going into the season with Rodgers and two rookies. Or Mason and two rookies. (Yeah, Howard is a 2nd year.. but he was hurt before preseason)

That’s Cleveland Browns thinking…. Flacco and Gabriel - Sanders.


This team has no direction. Except down.

[SteelerDayTrader]

Fuck this pick.

As the guy who’s followed Drew Allar’s career all the way back to high school let me tell you he processes things slow, doesn’t read a defense well, is inaccurate in a clean pocket and absolutely shits his pants under pressure.

He’s big athletic and throws a nice deep ball though. Think Mason Rudolph and Kenny Pickett had a kid, it would be Drew Allar and he’d be in special Ed.

[W&M_Steeler]

Unsurprisingly, all the Will Howard fellating by McCarthy and co looks to have been bullshit. It sucks to blow a high 3rd round pick on the next Hackenburg or Paxton Lynch, but at least the Steelers didn't break the bank on Justin Fields or Malik Willis.

There's always 2027.

[Gonzo]

watch all penn state games and very familiar with Allar. Some things maybe can be fixed but not sure you are ever going to get past the core issue - he is awful awful in high pressure situations ... a deer in headlights. i hold out 2% hope that once freed from the combo of poor WRs and james franklin (bashing into his head - no turnovers) - there is something there. but maybe it's allar that broke franklin

but i have declared on more than one occasion - tha is the biggest choker QB i have ever seen
think stroud in last year playoffs - complete
mental breakdown

[franco32]

watch all penn state games and very familiar with Allar. Some things maybe can be fixed but not sure you are ever going to get past the core issue - he is awful awful in high pressure situations ... a deer in headlights. i hold out 2% hope that once freed from the combo of poor WRs and james franklin (bashing into his head - no turnovers) - there is something there.

but i have declared on more than one occasion - tha is the biggest choker QB i have ever seen

That's my concern as well. You can probably fix his footwork and make him more consistent and accurate. He only just turned 22. Still time to learn defenses and processing the field. (He actually went through progressions fairly well at times when I watched many PSU games).

But the mental fragility is my big question mark. He does look like he's going to throw up in big moments. He needs a sports psychologist to do some real work with him.

[jebrick]

Perhaps they are planning on putting Will Howard's brain in Allar's body. That would be genius. otherwise, this is a pick for the Story and not football.

[Gonzo]

Perhaps they are planning on putting Will Howard's brain in Allar's body. That would be genius. otherwise, this is a pick for the Story and not football.

i think they obviously wanted him - not just story. they could have likely waited for the last pick of the third. they were too eager and didn't want to take any chance he would be gone by then

[Gonzo]

i agree with someone above though / i don't see how they go into the season if rodgers comes back with two rookie backups. bringing rodgers means they are still keen to be 9-8 .... so they are either going to do something odd/dumb or rodgers isn't coming

[Gonzo]

biggest problem with me for this pick is where they took him - not that they took him.

aside from mendoza i thought greene an allar late are the only ones worth a long shot prayer lottery ticket. the rest are what they are and always will be IMO.

this team is not ready to win like asshat rooney thinks. they need a lot of things - they need the early draft picks to build this team up. this wasted pic along with maybe having rodgers back is disheartening

i will be pulling though for howard or allar to become a real QB and rodgers to stay far away from pittsburgh

[Jobu]

…this is a pick for the Story and not football.

Yep. And that’s why I fully believe that A2 drove this pick. He doesn’t know how to build a quality football team so he does superficial stuff to appease the fanbase…Kenny Pickett, Mike McCarthy, Drew Allar, etc.

[anpsteel]

So, is Allar a better qb prospect than all of the remaining prospects, at other positions of need??

OG
ILB
S
CB
Outside WR

I think there were more than a few, better positional prospects, than Allar at QB.

I do not get this, unless it's AR2 pushing the pick. Do you want a 4th QB for camp? Sure. Could it have been anyone... including a 4-7th round pick, because they aren't going to see the field??? Absofukinlutely

The single biggest determining factor in a QBs success at the nfl level, is processing speed. Field Vision, Accuracy, Arm strength, all factor after processing...

Allar does not process well.

Also, does the team using a 3rd round pick on him, vs the 6th for Howard, suggest they value Allar over Howard??


Anyway- I wouldn't give a rip, if they had used a 4th or 5th, or even pick 99 on him... but this just seems like a colossal waste of a pick- probably driven by Art, to appease the homers.

[swissvale72]

…this is a pick for the Story and not football.

Yep. And that’s why I fully believe that A2 drove this pick. He doesn’t know how to build a quality football team so he does superficial stuff to appease the fanbase…Kenny Pickett, Mike McCarthy, Drew Allar, etc.

REALLY hoping this wasn't the case, but rather that McCarthy wanted this guy. Pre-season, was Allar not projected to be a top 5 pick. I watch Penn state whenever they're on too, and particularly remember the awful picks versus notre dame in the national semi-final and then Oregon last season

[Steel Ubaldo]

Fuck this pick.

As the guy who’s followed Drew Allar’s career all the way back to high school let me tell you he processes things slow, doesn’t read a defense well, is inaccurate in a clean pocket and absolutely shits his pants under pressure.

He’s big athletic and throws a nice deep ball though. Think Mason Rudolph and Kenny Pickett had a kid, it would be Drew Allar and he’d be in special Ed.

I only watch the marquee Penn St games ( the wife and family are huge fans and booster and she forces me to watch) so I usually have seen only Allar’s failures as they are mostly the big games with the brightest lights. I was convinced he didn’t have “it” but I don’t watch but 2 games a year…


Perch, as a guy that has followed Allar for a long time, what impact, if any, does Franklin’s coaching or the alleged shitty Wrs on PSU had on his development? I’m guessing by reading your analysis above he can’t overcome his shortcomings at the next level…

[Steelperch]

Fuck this pick.

As the guy who’s followed Drew Allar’s career all the way back to high school let me tell you he processes things slow, doesn’t read a defense well, is inaccurate in a clean pocket and absolutely shits his pants under pressure.

He’s big athletic and throws a nice deep ball though. Think Mason Rudolph and Kenny Pickett had a kid, it would be Drew Allar and he’d be in special Ed.

I only watch the marquee Penn St games ( the wife and family are huge fans and booster and she forces me to watch) so I usually have seen only Allar’s failures as they are mostly the big games with the brightest lights. I was convinced he didn’t have “it” but I don’t watch but 2 games a year…


Perch, as a guy that has followed Allar for a long time, what impact, if any, does Franklin’s coaching or the alleged shitty Wrs on PSU had on his development? I’m guessing by reading your analysis above he can’t overcome his shortcomings at the next level…

Franklin was conservative on offense like Tomlin and Penn State never had top notch receivers for Allar. His mental processing is slow and he is bad under pressure. It’s entirely possible great coaching and better weapons can get more out of him than what he showed in State College. It’s just rare for a QB to speed up their brain and grow some balls. Either you have it or you don’t.

Mind you, I was thinking Allar was the guy who was going to bring Penn State a National Title 4 years ago. I’m not biased against him, I’ve just seen enough of his issues and no improvement over four years. He’s big, athletic and looks like a million bucks in a uniform. The #1 knock on a QB for me is the mental part and how they handle pressure and that’s where he comes up short

[Mick]

I grade this as an F, even being mildly favorable toward Allar as a prospect…I mean, what is the plan? I thought we were looking to draft an actual QB prospect in 2027. If so, why aren’t we bringing in guys in 2026 to help?

We just drafted a future clipboard guy last year, how many clipboards do they need to keep aloft simultaneously? And why does clipboarding require a Day 2 pick?

If they think Allar is actually The Guy, they’re wrong, but it’s a fairly different mode of failure.

[955876]

…this is a pick for the Story and not football.

Yep. And that’s why I fully believe that A2 drove this pick. He doesn’t know how to build a quality football team so he does superficial stuff to appease the fanbase…Kenny Pickett, Mike McCarthy, Drew Allar, etc.

100%.

Dunce Rooney has the same loser trait as his grandpa.

[cop1211]

Only pick that I hate.
You either draft a QB in the first or you wait till the 6th or 7th.

Best case he is a career back up.

[jebrick]

His comp is Hackenburg but no one wants to say it