Steelers at Ravens Game Thread & Comments

[jeemie]

Two observations.

Steelers have not allowed a fourth down conversion against all season long so far. Wow!

Man, Lamar Jackson fumbles the ball...a LOT. Kinda surprised more teams don’t try and take advantage of that.

Did they not give up one on the last drive? I think Rats converted a 4th and 2.

Yeah my bad...the long completion that set up the last plays.

For some reason I was misremembering that as a 3rd and 2.

[bradshaw2ben]

Thank you Pittsburgh Steelers for the birthday victory! 7-0! Partying like it's 1978!

Happy Birthday, JL! I forgot yours was just a couple days after mine.

Happy Birthday to both you asshats!

Thanks, Jobu!

Man, I'm like the Masters and Johnson subject who was being tested to see how many mutiple orgasms a woman could have––they basically had male subject after male subject come in, then they ran out of guys and moved to a vibrator. Anyway, they finally gave up after several hours where she showed no sign of stopping. M&J reported the subject's condition as "tired but happy".

[bradshaw2ben]

Two observations.

Steelers have not allowed a fourth down conversion against all season long so far. Wow!

Man, Lamar Jackson fumbles the ball...a LOT. Kinda surprised more teams don’t try and take advantage of that.

Did they not give up one on the last drive? I think Rats converted a 4th and 2.

Yeah my bad...the long completion that set up the last plays.

For some reason I was misremembering that as a 3rd and 2.

I think they were having so much success running it from a million different plays that they couldn't use them all!

[stillthere]

Two observations.

Steelers have not allowed a fourth down conversion against all season long so far. Wow!

Man, Lamar Jackson fumbles the ball...a LOT. Kinda surprised more teams don’t try and take advantage of that.

Did they not give up one on the last drive? I think Rats converted a 4th and 2.

Yup.

4th & 2 BAL 45
(0:26 - 4th) L.Jackson pass deep middle to W.Snead to PIT 23 for 32 yards (Te.Edmunds).

[Mick]

Amazing Ben just engineered a game winning 4th quarter drive to move to 5th all time in that stat while playing scared. Imagine if it wasn’t Halloween

Just updating random Roethlisberger career milestones;

Career Games Over 0.500 leaderboard:

Tom Brady 158
Peyton Manning 107
Ben Roethlisberger 80
Brett Favre 74
Joe Montana 70
John Elway 66
Aaron Rodgers 57
Terry Bradshaw 56
Roger Staubach 56
Drew Brees 54
Johnny Unitas 54
Dan Marino 54

[actionsteel1]

So Layne was getting some action beyond special teams? What accounted for that? Was Hilton still out?

He was not active.

Not Active
QB 5 J.Dobbs, CB 28 M.Hilton, S 37 J.Dangerfield, LB 54 U.Gilbert, DT 73
C.Davis, OT 77 D.Gray, TE 81 Z.Gentry

Just one more reason why Steeler depth was so valuable today.

[franco32]

Fantastic win. I was irate at the first half playcalling but kudos for the half-time adjustment to 5 wide. Baltimore really didn't have an answer for most of the game. They showed balls in the 2nd half. The Ben doubters were badly silenced and rightfully so. He pulled out the GRAY in the second half.

I'm elated at the win, but 265 yards rushing against is really bad and thankfully the turnovers and timely defensive plays saved us. The Ravens were scheming runs all day and the D was getting gashed without Alualu in the middle. The multiple busted coverages were infuriating as well. We have to clean that up and that is coaching.

I'm thrilled at 7-0 but let's not rest on our laurels. We have more work to do. Seeing Lamar turn into his playoff form was beautiful though. Four turnovers from him and there could have been more.

[LakecrestSteeler]

Whose job does Spillane have next year?

Vince or Bush?

He is s tough bastard. How about him running that Wr/TE down after the catch. Football speed.

The dude, to me, has earned the right to be a starter going forward.

....and he's obviously going to get a lot better. Reminds me a bit of John Offerdahl who I believe also came from Western Michigan.

Just toughness personified.

Has anyone used the Jack Lambert comparison yet? Too soon? He is lanky like him...and seems to be an enforcer.

[LakecrestSteeler]

Fantastic win. I was irate at the first half playcalling but kudos for the half-time adjustment to 5 wide. Baltimore really didn't have an answer for most of the game. They showed balls in the 2nd half. The Ben doubters were badly silenced and rightfully so. He pulled out the GRAY in the second half.

I'm elated at the win, but 265 yards rushing against is really bad and thankfully the turnovers and timely defensive plays saved us. The Ravens were scheming runs all day and the D was getting gashed without Alualu in the middle. The multiple busted coverages were infuriating as well. We have to clean that up and that is coaching.

I'm thrilled at 7-0 but let's not rest on our laurels. We have more work to do. Seeing Lamar turn into his playoff form was beautiful though. Four turnovers from him and there could have been more.

Laughed at the Gray comment.

I think Butler neutered the defense with Watt wasting energy on tackling Jackson. I like the discipline at first, but saw how it hurt us in the run several plays later. Did not watch Dupree enough to see if he was doing the same. Not having Watt crash down the line on run support is like not ever have letting Troy help on run support.

Might need to go to the spy method so that Bud and TJ can crash down the line a little more freely! That gives our defense some teeth against the run.

[breeze]

Considering the players lost over the last few seasons and Ben’s mileage, I doubt anyone would have put money on the possibility that the Steelers would be undefeated seven games in. Would be great if the bye week were happening when scheduled. Tomlin has this team humming. Hopefully they stay reasonably healthy.

[LakecrestSteeler]

Considering the players lost over the last few seasons and Ben’s mileage, I doubt anyone would have put money on the possibility that the Steelers would be undefeated seven games in. Would be great if the bye week were happening when scheduled. Tomlin has this team humming. Hopefully they stay reasonably healthy.

Bye week would have thrown a wrench in the works. The lack of bye week will ironically get us a bye week!

[Mick]

Considering the players lost over the last few seasons and Ben’s mileage, I doubt anyone would have put money on the possibility that the Steelers would be undefeated seven games in. Would be great if the bye week were happening when scheduled. Tomlin has this team humming. Hopefully they stay reasonably healthy.

for me, the only ‘better than expected’ thing i’ve seen this year is the receivers, mostly because Claypool.

Ben was definitely a ‘wait and see’ whether he would be back to being ben or not, but i wouldn’t have put money on “washed up”.

I cant be the only one who spent all last season thinking “if this team had a legit QB (and maybe slightly improved receiving threats) they’d be almost unbeatable.”

[W&M_Steeler]

Considering the players lost over the last few seasons and Ben’s mileage, I doubt anyone would have put money on the possibility that the Steelers would be undefeated seven games in. Would be great if the bye week were happening when scheduled. Tomlin has this team humming. Hopefully they stay reasonably healthy.

for me, the only ‘better than expected’ thing i’ve seen this year is the receivers, mostly because Claypool.

Ben was definitely a ‘wait and see’ whether he would be back to being ben or not, but i wouldn’t have put money on “washed up”.

I cant be the only one who spent all last season thinking “if this team had a legit QB (and maybe slightly improved receiving threats) they’d be almost unbeatable.”

I wish the Steelers had a bruiser like Dobbins to help shore-up the run game. Connor's good, but the depth behind him is a real weakness. Snell is a disappointment, MacFarland hasn't shown anything, and Samuels shouldn't be on an NFL roster.

[Jobu]

Considering the players lost over the last few seasons and Ben’s mileage, I doubt anyone would have put money on the possibility that the Steelers would be undefeated seven games in. Would be great if the bye week were happening when scheduled. Tomlin has this team humming. Hopefully they stay reasonably healthy.

for me, the only ‘better than expected’ thing i’ve seen this year is the receivers, mostly because Claypool.

Ben was definitely a ‘wait and see’ whether he would be back to being ben or not, but i wouldn’t have put money on “washed up”.

I cant be the only one who spent all last season thinking “if this team had a legit QB (and maybe slightly improved receiving threats) they’d be almost unbeatable.”

I wish the Steelers had a bruiser like Dobbins to help shore-up the run game. Connor's good, but the depth behind him is a real weakness. Snell is a disappointment, MacFarland hasn't shown anything, and Samuels shouldn't be on an NFL roster.

Dobbins is going to be a star in the league.

Speaking of Snell...I didn’t see him in the game at all today. Did he play?

[stillthere]

Fantastic win. I was irate at the first half playcalling but kudos for the half-time adjustment to 5 wide. Baltimore really didn't have an answer for most of the game. They showed balls in the 2nd half. The Ben doubters were badly silenced and rightfully so. He pulled out the GRAY in the second half.

I'm elated at the win, but 265 yards rushing against is really bad and thankfully the turnovers and timely defensive plays saved us. The Ravens were scheming runs all day and the D was getting gashed without Alualu in the middle. The multiple busted coverages were infuriating as well. We have to clean that up and that is coaching.

I'm thrilled at 7-0 but let's not rest on our laurels. We have more work to do. Seeing Lamar turn into his playoff form was beautiful though. Four turnovers from him and there could have been more.

Laughed at the Gray comment.

I think Butler neutered the defense with Watt wasting energy on tackling Jackson. I like the discipline at first, but saw how it hurt us in the run several plays later. Did not watch Dupree enough to see if he was doing the same. Not having Watt crash down the line on run support is like not ever have letting Troy help on run support.

Might need to go to the spy method so that Bud and TJ can crash down the line a little more freely! That gives our defense some teeth against the run.

It is what really cost the Steelers last year in the second game. I think they are just convinced that if you keep hitting the QB then they figure Baltimore will stop running that play. I don't think they will stop running the play and I don't think Pittsburgh will stop advertising that they are just going to hit him every run play that he carries out a play fake. It is basically a game of chicken.

[RemoAZ]

I have never seen Tomlin outcoach his opponent.

Nope. If it comes down to coaching, we lose every time.

C'mon, take your medicine! How's that crow taste? Like dead Ratbirds?

I already said that even if the adjustments were only allowing Ben to make the calls, it was a good one. Even in the presser Ben said he was making shit up at the end. And Balt shit the bed on that 2nd to last drive. They could have ran the option all the way to the end zone imo. Not sure why they changed it up but I'm glad they did. Winning is much better than being right.

[RemoAZ]

"Regarding the end of #PITvsBAL, Minkah Fitzpatrick is making a play on the ball so the contact to the receiver is not a foul. Any incidental contact by an opponent’s hands, arms, or body when both players are competing for the ball isn't a penalty."

https://twitter.com/GeneSteratore/statu ... 9191764993

[Jobu]

Nope. If it comes down to coaching, we lose every time.

C'mon, take your medicine! How's that crow taste? Like dead Ratbirds?

I already said that even if the adjustments were only allowing Ben to make the calls, it was a good one. Even in the presser Ben said he was making shit up at the end. And Balt shit the bed on that 2nd to last drive. They could have ran the option all the way to the end zone imo. Not sure why they changed it up but I'm glad they did. Winning is much better than being right.

The last two times Rats ran the option, the Steelers took the pitch away and forced Jackson to keep it. They stopped him for short gains both times.

[yygy]

Here’s the D look I’d give the rats next time.

On a few plays in Titans game, Bud was moved to MLB. Most of the damage was interior runs. Bud at MLB Jackson takes the QB draw exactly one time, and one time only.

Take away the dive and the qb scramble straight ahead and they have nothing. Flacco had his moon ball and te who could catch. Jackson has play action and over pursuit. That’s it.

[bradshaw2ben]

Considering the players lost over the last few seasons and Ben’s mileage, I doubt anyone would have put money on the possibility that the Steelers would be undefeated seven games in. Would be great if the bye week were happening when scheduled. Tomlin has this team humming. Hopefully they stay reasonably healthy.

for me, the only ‘better than expected’ thing i’ve seen this year is the receivers, mostly because Claypool.

Ben was definitely a ‘wait and see’ whether he would be back to being ben or not, but i wouldn’t have put money on “washed up”.

I cant be the only one who spent all last season thinking “if this team had a legit QB (and maybe slightly improved receiving threats) they’d be almost unbeatable.”

I wish the Steelers had a bruiser like Dobbins to help shore-up the run game. Connor's good, but the depth behind him is a real weakness. Snell is a disappointment, MacFarland hasn't shown anything, and Samuels shouldn't be on an NFL roster.

Time for my mea culpa: I didn't think much of Dobbins––didn't think he'd be very good in the passing game, among other things. He was really good running the ball today.

[El Kabong]

Fantastic win. I was irate at the first half playcalling but kudos for the half-time adjustment to 5 wide. Baltimore really didn't have an answer for most of the game. They showed balls in the 2nd half. The Ben doubters were badly silenced and rightfully so. He pulled out the GRAY in the second half.

I'm elated at the win, but 265 yards rushing against is really bad and thankfully the turnovers and timely defensive plays saved us. The Ravens were scheming runs all day and the D was getting gashed without Alualu in the middle. The multiple busted coverages were infuriating as well. We have to clean that up and that is coaching.

I'm thrilled at 7-0 but let's not rest on our laurels. We have more work to do. Seeing Lamar turn into his playoff form was beautiful though. Four turnovers from him and there could have been more.

Laughed at the Gray comment.

I think Butler neutered the defense with Watt wasting energy on tackling Jackson. I like the discipline at first, but saw how it hurt us in the run several plays later. Did not watch Dupree enough to see if he was doing the same. Not having Watt crash down the line on run support is like not ever have letting Troy help on run support.

Might need to go to the spy method so that Bud and TJ can crash down the line a little more freely! That gives our defense some teeth against the run.

It is what really cost the Steelers last year in the second game. I think they are just convinced that if you keep hitting the QB then they figure Baltimore will stop running that play. I don't think they will stop running the play and I don't think Pittsburgh will stop advertising that they are just going to hit him every run play that he carries out a play fake. It is basically a game of chicken.

I thought Romo said something about how TJ hitting LJ every play makes him hand off rather than keep it.

[stillthere]

Laughed at the Gray comment.

I think Butler neutered the defense with Watt wasting energy on tackling Jackson. I like the discipline at first, but saw how it hurt us in the run several plays later. Did not watch Dupree enough to see if he was doing the same. Not having Watt crash down the line on run support is like not ever have letting Troy help on run support.

Might need to go to the spy method so that Bud and TJ can crash down the line a little more freely! That gives our defense some teeth against the run.

It is what really cost the Steelers last year in the second game. I think they are just convinced that if you keep hitting the QB then they figure Baltimore will stop running that play. I don't think they will stop running the play and I don't think Pittsburgh will stop advertising that they are just going to hit him every run play that he carries out a play fake. It is basically a game of chicken.

I thought Romo said something about how TJ hitting LJ every play makes him hand off rather than keep it.

I think it does but it creates a seam that basically is good for 4-6 yards over the tackle. Even if the LB fills well the you still have a 3 yard run. Just my view of it from the 2nd game last year and today.

[stillthere]

https://nflfullhd.com/2020/11/01/pittsb ... full-game/

Game replay here if anyone would like to

[LakecrestSteeler]

It is what really cost the Steelers last year in the second game. I think they are just convinced that if you keep hitting the QB then they figure Baltimore will stop running that play. I don't think they will stop running the play and I don't think Pittsburgh will stop advertising that they are just going to hit him every run play that he carries out a play fake. It is basically a game of chicken.

I thought Romo said something about how TJ hitting LJ every play makes him hand off rather than keep it.

I think it does but it creates a seam that basically is good for 4-6 yards over the tackle. Even if the LB fills well the you still have a 3 yard run. Just my view of it from the 2nd game last year and today.

And additionally it unnecessarily prevents running back sacks of which Watt has had several big crash down the line running back sacks this year. Why would you cannabilize that stat when there are other options available like the spy.

[Orangesteel]

Watching some replays, Ben was an assassin the second half. Great footwork and pocket presence and he got those early misfires out of his system.

Pretty damn special season he is putting together. They REALLY need to keep Samuels out of the passing game though, or if they keep him in, I don’t want him running 4 yard hook routes. Get his ass in motion and use him like they did in college and vs the Pats two years ago. The fuck is this?

[steelmann58]

Love seeing layne getting more time today but what i did notice when Ben sit down its usually near Dobbs

[Jobu]

Love seeing layne getting more time today but what i did notice when Ben sit down its usually near Dobbs

Dobbs is probably “charting” plays, or whatever it is they do nowadays with the tablets. He’s the eyes on the sideline.

[stillthere]

Love seeing layne getting more time today but what i did notice when Ben sit down its usually near Dobbs

Dobbs is probably “charting” plays, or whatever it is they do nowadays with the tablets. He’s the eyes on the sideline.

Yep. Ben said Dobbs was the one that called the TD to Washington against Cleveland. Saw something and brought it to him and Randy about the pump fake for the out and up.

[COR-TEN]

I have to say JuJu needs to stay. How about some recognition thrown his way?

He's had some great combat catches, getting first downs, protecting the ball.

I would release DJ before JuJu, as of yesterday. Not a popular opinion, I know.

[stillthere]

I have to say JuJu needs to stay. How about some recognition thrown his way?

He's had some great combat catches, getting first downs, protecting the ball.

I would release DJ before JuJu, as of yesterday. Not a popular opinion, I know.

His mentality is great for the team. His work ethic and his attitude all of it.