Go get Russell Wilson

[jebrick]

I'm by far a QB expert, but why is everyone jizzing over themselves over McCarthy? I just don't see any tremendous tools from a guy who was in a run heavy offense and amazing defense

short version, mccarthy:
Nfl arm
Good mobility
Slightly more efficient passing numbers than penix despite far worse receivers
Good accuracy
Still really young, 3 years younger than penix

Any elite QB prospect will be drafted before any non-QB; there’s never going to be a great prospect falling to 20. I don’t see mccarthy as an elite prospect, but just from his short profile in any normal year he’d be drafted in the top 10.

Never started without an elite running game. King of the dump-offs. For all of his "tape" there is very little, if any of him having to win a game. Someone will draft him in the 1st. Someone like Atlanta or the Raiders or the Giants.

[jebrick]

I don't think KP's leash is as long as you think it is. He'll get about 5 games and if he struggles, you're gonna see his backup and we'll have a QB controversy bc the backup will suck too. I also feel like KP will get hurt again bc he'll spin right into a sack for the billionth time

If that happens, they'll decline KP's 5th year due to performance and durability concerns.

Feel free to throw this in my face if that doesn't come to fruition.

I think we will see on who is brought in as the "backup" QB. If it is Tannehill, KP is the starter form day 1 of camp. If they sign someone with a higher price tag like Wilson, KP is gone. I think they are drafting a QB high in 2025 unless KP can have a 4000+ passing with 40tbs and 8 ints. Basically, KP to the pro-bowl or we rinse and get another.

[Steelperch]

Well, well , welll. Steelers going to get Russell Wilson…


https://www.post-gazette.com/sports/ste ... 2403070095

The Steelers are interested in signing Russell Wilson and are tentatively planning to meet with the former Denver Broncos quarterback before the official start of free agency next week, sources have told the Post-Gazette.

Wilson, 35, has an interest in joining the Steelers, but he is already talking with at least one other team after the Broncos gave him permission to seek employment elsewhere before they release him.

The possible addition of Wilson, a former Super Bowl-winning quarterback with the Seattle Seahawks, would create a curious quarterback situation with the Steelers, especially with Kenny

It would mean they are not firmly convinced Pickett is the quarterback to immediately get them into the postseason and make a run in the playoffs, even though the Steelers haven’t won a playoff game in a franchise-record seven years. Pickett.

[K_C_]

Penix took UW to the Championship game when NO ONE had them going that far. UW isn't loaded like some of the College Football factories and yet he Lit up Texas with an NFL talented roster. No one picked UW to win that game and yet Penix torched them.

All 3 of his WRs, his two TEs, his starting RB, his LT, RT + at least 4 defenders are all playing in the NFL next year, so they weren't exactly the little sisters of the poor.

…..and yet, with that unbelievable collection of talent, Texas was still favored and had what many believe will be the first QB taken in the 2025 draft.

…..and Penix outplayed that dude by a nice margin.

[tbsteel]

Well, well , welll. Steelers going to get Russell Wilson…


https://www.post-gazette.com/sports/ste ... 2403070095

The Steelers are interested in signing Russell Wilson and are tentatively planning to meet with the former Denver Broncos quarterback before the official start of free agency next week, sources have told the Post-Gazette.

Wilson, 35, has an interest in joining the Steelers, but he is already talking with at least one other team after the Broncos gave him permission to seek employment elsewhere before they release him.

The possible addition of Wilson, a former Super Bowl-winning quarterback with the Seattle Seahawks, would create a curious quarterback situation with the Steelers, especially with Kenny

It would mean they are not firmly convinced Pickett is the quarterback to immediately get them into the postseason and make a run in the playoffs, even though the Steelers haven’t won a playoff game in a franchise-record seven years. Pickett.

This would be fantastic for many reasons. a) Wilson is actually a professional starting QB and would be a great bridge QB and b) it would mean they've thankfully already given up on Pickett and are on the look for the next guy.

[Mick]

Penix took UW to the Championship game when NO ONE had them going that far. UW isn't loaded like some of the College Football factories and yet he Lit up Texas with an NFL talented roster. No one picked UW to win that game and yet Penix torched them.

All 3 of his WRs, his two TEs, his starting RB, his LT, RT + at least 4 defenders are all playing in the NFL next year, so they weren't exactly the little sisters of the poor.

…..and yet, with that unbelievable collection of talent, Texas was still favored and had what many believe will be the first QB taken in the 2025 draft.

…..and Penix outplayed that dude by a nice margin.

i can’t take anything away from Penix’ showing against Texas. Was huge for him to finally put up 2 TDs and a 65% completion % in the same game against a top 70 defense. No matter what they say, there’s not necessarily a first time for everything.

[Steelperch]

Well, well , welll. Steelers going to get Russell Wilson…


https://www.post-gazette.com/sports/ste ... 2403070095

The Steelers are interested in signing Russell Wilson and are tentatively planning to meet with the former Denver Broncos quarterback before the official start of free agency next week, sources have told the Post-Gazette.

Wilson, 35, has an interest in joining the Steelers, but he is already talking with at least one other team after the Broncos gave him permission to seek employment elsewhere before they release him.

The possible addition of Wilson, a former Super Bowl-winning quarterback with the Seattle Seahawks, would create a curious quarterback situation with the Steelers, especially with Kenny

It would mean they are not firmly convinced Pickett is the quarterback to immediately get them into the postseason and make a run in the playoffs, even though the Steelers haven’t won a playoff game in a franchise-record seven years. Pickett.

This would be fantastic for many reasons. a) Wilson is actually a professional starting QB and would be a great bridge QB and b) it would mean they've thankfully already given up on Pickett and are on the look for the next guy.

How good will George Pickens look with an NFL OC and QB!?!

I hope they trade up in the first round, package Dionte Johnson to move up for Rome Odunze. Sign Russell Wilson and a FA Center, get an OT with your first pick.

[Pabst]

i can’t take anything away from Penix’ showing against Texas. Was huge for him to finally put up 2 TDs and a 65% completion % in the same game against a top 70 defense. No matter what they say, there’s not necessarily a first time for everything.

Penix also threw for 430 yards in that game.

JJ McCarthy, meanwhile, had a grand total of *3* 300 yard games in his career. Those came against defenses ranked 91st (2022 TCU), 120th (2022 Indiana), and 105th (2023 Purdue).

[Steelperch]

i can’t take anything away from Penix’ showing against Texas. Was huge for him to finally put up 2 TDs and a 65% completion % in the same game against a top 70 defense. No matter what they say, there’s not necessarily a first time for everything.

Penix also threw for 430 yards in that game.

JJ McCarthy, meanwhile, had a grand total of *3* 300 yard games in his career. Those came against defenses ranked 91st (2022 TCU), 120th (2022 Indiana), and 105th (2023 Purdue).

This is such a dumb argument. Penix was in his 6th year, McCarthy was in his 3rd. Penix numbers in his 3rd year weren’t good. He was a 56% passer who threw for 1600 yards vs roughly 72% and 3000 for McCarthy. Kenny Pickett was really good when he was a full grown adult, 5th year player going up against kids right out of high school too.

[steelmann58]

I am not sure if it happens but he the cheapest and did put up some decent numbers

[jebrick]

Well, well , welll. Steelers going to get Russell Wilson…


https://www.post-gazette.com/sports/ste ... 2403070095

The Steelers are interested in signing Russell Wilson and are tentatively planning to meet with the former Denver Broncos quarterback before the official start of free agency next week, sources have told the Post-Gazette.

Wilson, 35, has an interest in joining the Steelers, but he is already talking with at least one other team after the Broncos gave him permission to seek employment elsewhere before they release him.

The possible addition of Wilson, a former Super Bowl-winning quarterback with the Seattle Seahawks, would create a curious quarterback situation with the Steelers, especially with Kenny

It would mean they are not firmly convinced Pickett is the quarterback to immediately get them into the postseason and make a run in the playoffs, even though the Steelers haven’t won a playoff game in a franchise-record seven years. Pickett.

Best comment I saw was " I trust Dulac as much as a post Taco Bell fart"

[anpsteel]

Well, well , welll. Steelers going to get Russell Wilson…


https://www.post-gazette.com/sports/ste ... 2403070095

The Steelers are interested in signing Russell Wilson and are tentatively planning to meet with the former Denver Broncos quarterback before the official start of free agency next week, sources have told the Post-Gazette.

Wilson, 35, has an interest in joining the Steelers, but he is already talking with at least one other team after the Broncos gave him permission to seek employment elsewhere before they release him.

The possible addition of Wilson, a former Super Bowl-winning quarterback with the Seattle Seahawks, would create a curious quarterback situation with the Steelers, especially with Kenny

It would mean they are not firmly convinced Pickett is the quarterback to immediately get them into the postseason and make a run in the playoffs, even though the Steelers haven’t won a playoff game in a franchise-record seven years. Pickett.

This would be fantastic for many reasons. a) Wilson is actually a professional starting QB and would be a great bridge QB and b) it would mean they've thankfully already given up on Pickett and are on the look for the next guy.

I appreciate that Wilson would be a step up.

but, and I preface this with, I didn't see many Denver games the past two seasons- so this is all based upon tail end Seattle

but- he reminds me of a "bored" drew brees or even bored ben-

If the play breaks down, or seemingly for any reason, he was forcing the ball downfield- into coverage- way too often.

If they were lucky, it would result in an incomplete and turnover on downs- without moving the ball or taking time off the clock.

He would absolutely have to be resigned to playing within the system, because "letting Russ cook" doesn't work anymore, if it ever did.


Also, he's not exactly well liked by his teammates. Do you really want that headache??


Denver would rather eat $80mil than keep him on the roster.

That says something

[K_C_]

i can’t take anything away from Penix’ showing against Texas. Was huge for him to finally put up 2 TDs and a 65% completion % in the same game against a top 70 defense. No matter what they say, there’s not necessarily a first time for everything.

Penix also threw for 430 yards in that game.

JJ McCarthy, meanwhile, had a grand total of *3* 300 yard games in his career. Those came against defenses ranked 91st (2022 TCU), 120th (2022 Indiana), and 105th (2023 Purdue).

This is such a dumb argument. Penix was in his 6th year, McCarthy was in his 3rd. Penix numbers in his 3rd year weren’t good. He was a 56% passer who threw for 1600 yards vs roughly 72% and 3000 for McCarthy. Kenny Pickett was really good when he was a full grown adult, 5th year player going up against kids right out of high school too.

Penix spent his first 3 years in Bloomington.

Jesus Christ.

[K_C_]

I hope Russ doesn’t play like did for most of his tenure in Denver, like he ate a handful of Xanax before game time.

Also, will he have his own office at the facility?

[K_C_]

Well, well , welll. Steelers going to get Russell Wilson…


https://www.post-gazette.com/sports/ste ... 2403070095

This would be fantastic for many reasons. a) Wilson is actually a professional starting QB and would be a great bridge QB and b) it would mean they've thankfully already given up on Pickett and are on the look for the next guy.

How good will George Pickens look with an NFL OC and QB!?!

I hope they trade up in the first round, package Dionte Johnson to move up for Rome Odunze. Sign Russell Wilson and a FA Center, get an OT with your first pick.

I get you hate Pickett but did you watch the 2 years Wilson played in Denver?

This year could end up being a lot of fun, especially on these boards.

[Jobu]

Well, well , welll. Steelers going to get Russell Wilson…


https://www.post-gazette.com/sports/ste ... 2403070095

The Steelers are interested in signing Russell Wilson and are tentatively planning to meet with the former Denver Broncos quarterback before the official start of free agency next week, sources have told the Post-Gazette.

Wilson, 35, has an interest in joining the Steelers, but he is already talking with at least one other team after the Broncos gave him permission to seek employment elsewhere before they release him.

The possible addition of Wilson, a former Super Bowl-winning quarterback with the Seattle Seahawks, would create a curious quarterback situation with the Steelers, especially with Kenny

It would mean they are not firmly convinced Pickett is the quarterback to immediately get them into the postseason and make a run in the playoffs, even though the Steelers haven’t won a playoff game in a franchise-record seven years. Pickett.

Best comment I saw was " I trust Dulac as much as a post Taco Bell fart"

[Ice]

i can’t take anything away from Penix’ showing against Texas. Was huge for him to finally put up 2 TDs and a 65% completion % in the same game against a top 70 defense. No matter what they say, there’s not necessarily a first time for everything.

Penix also threw for 430 yards in that game.

JJ McCarthy, meanwhile, had a grand total of *3* 300 yard games in his career. Those came against defenses ranked 91st (2022 TCU), 120th (2022 Indiana), and 105th (2023 Purdue).

This is such a dumb argument. Penix was in his 6th year, McCarthy was in his 3rd. Penix numbers in his 3rd year weren’t good. He was a 56% passer who threw for 1600 yards vs roughly 72% and 3000 for McCarthy. Kenny Pickett was really good when he was a full grown adult, 5th year player going up against kids right out of high school too.

Exactly. I don't like either, but hoping for our team to fall for the overage mirage AGAIN when we've already seen how basic (or less) Pickett and Harris looked once things were even in the NFL is an actual definition of insanity.

By Pickett's age, Russ had also won his first Super Bowl.

[Steelperch]

This would be fantastic for many reasons. a) Wilson is actually a professional starting QB and would be a great bridge QB and b) it would mean they've thankfully already given up on Pickett and are on the look for the next guy.

How good will George Pickens look with an NFL OC and QB!?!

I hope they trade up in the first round, package Dionte Johnson to move up for Rome Odunze. Sign Russell Wilson and a FA Center, get an OT with your first pick.

I get you hate Pickett but did you watch the 2 years Wilson played in Denver?

This year could end up being a lot of fun, especially on these boards.

26 TD passes in 15 games last year. It’d take Lil Ken a decade to get that kind of production. 98 QB rating for the season…. That’s like Kenny’s best game ever, 15 times in a row.

The bar is so low, anything is an upgrade. Washed Russell Wilson would at least be interesting to watch.

[K_C_]

How good will George Pickens look with an NFL OC and QB!?!

I hope they trade up in the first round, package Dionte Johnson to move up for Rome Odunze. Sign Russell Wilson and a FA Center, get an OT with your first pick.

I get you hate Pickett but did you watch the 2 years Wilson played in Denver?

This year could end up being a lot of fun, especially on these boards.

26 TD passes in 15 games last year. It’d take Lil Ken a decade to get that kind of production. 98 QB rating for the season…. That’s like Kenny’s best game ever, 15 times in a row.

The bar is so low, anything is an upgrade. Washed Russell Wilson would at least be interesting to watch.

11-19 record as a starter in Denver. There’s a reason he was cut loose while still being owed a boatload of money.

The coach hated him. His teammates reportedly weren’t fans. A diva who many believed got his money and coasted.

Wilson very possibly could be an upgrade over Pickett but I don’t think it’s a certainty wins that job. Russ had actual NFL level OC’s during his career. Pickett hasn’t.

[gojira5150]

Penix took UW to the Championship game when NO ONE had them going that far. UW isn't loaded like some of the College Football factories and yet he Lit up Texas with an NFL talented roster. No one picked UW to win that game and yet Penix torched them.

All 3 of his WRs, his two TEs, his starting RB, his LT, RT + at least 4 defenders are all playing in the NFL next year, so they weren't exactly the little sisters of the poor.

True BUT UW is Not a college football factory like Alabama, Texas, Michigan, OSU etc etc. Did you think UW was going to the college football championship game. Did you think they were going to beat Texas? Penix torched them. The dude can read the field (processes quickly and goto 3rd or 4th read). Has a cannon arm & his release is very quick, he's got power on his back foot, and is crazy accurate. This guy is a true gunslinger. He throws a very tight spiral. Watch the 2 Oregon games and he outdueled Nix.

But hey we have KP8 so why try and upgrade (even thou Penix is a better QB right now).

Stroud was picked in the 1st and didn't have an Elite O-line and had one heck of a season. They were down 2 starting O-linemen against our Stillers and Stroud still was able to beat us.

[Steelperch]

I get you hate Pickett but did you watch the 2 years Wilson played in Denver?

This year could end up being a lot of fun, especially on these boards.

26 TD passes in 15 games last year. It’d take Lil Ken a decade to get that kind of production. 98 QB rating for the season…. That’s like Kenny’s best game ever, 15 times in a row.

The bar is so low, anything is an upgrade. Washed Russell Wilson would at least be interesting to watch.

11-19 record as a starter in Denver. There’s a reason he was cut loose while still being owed a boatload of money.

The coach hated him. His teammates reportedly weren’t fans. A diva who many believed got his money and coasted.

Wilson very possibly could be an upgrade over Pickett but I don’t think it’s a certainty wins that job. Russ had actual NFL level OC’s during his career. Pickett hasn’t.

So you’d rather watch another season of little Ken, or draft another overaged QB who it took 5 years to play well in college. Got it. I’d prefer a total rebuild, but since we all know that won’t happen I’d prefer to let a former SB winning QB take his shot with this offense. Old Joe Flacco sure showed the Browns a spark last year.

[tbsteel]

How good will George Pickens look with an NFL OC and QB!?!

I hope they trade up in the first round, package Dionte Johnson to move up for Rome Odunze. Sign Russell Wilson and a FA Center, get an OT with your first pick.

I get you hate Pickett but did you watch the 2 years Wilson played in Denver?

This year could end up being a lot of fun, especially on these boards.

26 TD passes in 15 games last year. It’d take Lil Ken a decade to get that kind of production. 98 QB rating for the season…. That’s like Kenny’s best game ever, 15 times in a row.

The bar is so low, anything is an upgrade. Washed Russell Wilson would at least be interesting to watch.

Some Steeler fans really aren’t aware or can’t appreciate how helplessly pedestrian Pickett has been. His performance his first two years is so bad you’d almost have to be actively trying NOT to throw a TD to have numbers as bad as he has. He was a few lucky dropped pick sixes away from being almost unplayable.

Wilson may be on fumes but his fumes smell like roses compared to the sad, soggy diaper that is lil ken’s career.

[K_C_]

26 TD passes in 15 games last year. It’d take Lil Ken a decade to get that kind of production. 98 QB rating for the season…. That’s like Kenny’s best game ever, 15 times in a row.

The bar is so low, anything is an upgrade. Washed Russell Wilson would at least be interesting to watch.

11-19 record as a starter in Denver. There’s a reason he was cut loose while still being owed a boatload of money.

The coach hated him. His teammates reportedly weren’t fans. A diva who many believed got his money and coasted.

Wilson very possibly could be an upgrade over Pickett but I don’t think it’s a certainty wins that job. Russ had actual NFL level OC’s during his career. Pickett hasn’t.

So you’d rather watch another season of little Ken, or draft another overaged QB who it took 5 years to play well in college. Got it. I’d prefer a total rebuild, but since we all know that won’t happen I’d prefer to let a former SB winning QB take his shot with this offense. Old Joe Flacco sure showed the Browns a spark last year.

Mason Rudolph was more impressive than Flacco in the postseason. Why not just re-sign him (and he’s a ton younger.)

I’m not buying the Wilson hype until it happens. Like I said, Pickett finally has a real NFL level OC. For the first time.

Russell Wilson had Sean Payton to the point I thought Payton was going to punch Russ in the face. All his teammates would have done was laughed.

I most certainly give Pickett this season in Arthur Smith’s offense to take the next step or I draft his replacement in 2025. Your take on Penix Jr. is ridiculous. The guy stayed loyal to a TERRIBLE IU program and then immediately, I mean IMMEDIATELY became one of the best QB’s in all of college football.

Shows how important coaching and a supporting cast is.

I almost hope they sign Wilson because it will be funny as fuck when he gets benched in favor of Pickett….IF Russ even wins the job to begin with.

[jebrick]

The bar is so low, anything is an upgrade. Washed Russell Wilson would at least be interesting to watch.

^^This^^ is exactly it. I do not think they Bring in Wilson. Tannehill is still going to be signed to mentor Kenny and the next QB the Steelers draft in 2025

[DP39]

Wilson played pretty well last year -- I watched most of his games. He was certainly better than anything we had (even if MR looked good in his 3 wins) at QB. He had a very good mid-to-long sideline ball connection with his favorite WR, Courtland Sutton. Something I bet he could duplicate really well with Pickens (and maybe Austin III or talented drafted WR).

From a roster (2QB need) and cap (~$1.5M) perspective, signing Wilson is as close to a no-brainer as it gets. Getting a player of Wilson's caliber (even if you're getting his "far from best" years) for league minimum just doesn't happen at QB.

Now, from a "how does he fit in the QB room and team overall" perspective, that's where the rub is. That big question is one his wife, Ciara, asked with one of her older songs...."Fit in, Get in"?

Can Russ "Fit in" to "Get in" with the Steelers? While I have some doubts, I certainly wouldn't pass up the opportunity to find out!

It would also keep him off any AFCN (or just AFC) roster, ta boot! Yes, please!

[Forty Three]

Are the Steelers that bad at self scouting that they think they're a QB away from being a Super Bowl contender?

Are they so bad at pro scouting that they think 2024 Russell Wilson is a guy they can win with?

Or is this because he has business ties with Acrisure and Rooney is desperate to sell some jerseys to pay for the stadium upgrades they've been talking about?

[gojira5150]

The bar is so low, anything is an upgrade. Washed Russell Wilson would at least be interesting to watch.

^^This^^ is exactly it. I do not think they Bring in Wilson. Tannehill is still going to be signed to mentor Kenny and the next QB the Steelers draft in 2025

I've seen this posted here, WHO will the Steelers draft next year (2025) to play QB when they will be drafting 18-23. Who?1? Who will supposedly fall into their lap that will be better than Penix right now.

Hopefully when Jibba finally gets that losing season the Stillers will jettison Cool Breeze, bring in an offensive minded Head Coach (Ben Johnson for example) who knows QB's and he can draft one and bring them up to NFL standards.

[Pabst]

i can’t take anything away from Penix’ showing against Texas. Was huge for him to finally put up 2 TDs and a 65% completion % in the same game against a top 70 defense. No matter what they say, there’s not necessarily a first time for everything.

Penix also threw for 430 yards in that game.

JJ McCarthy, meanwhile, had a grand total of *3* 300 yard games in his career. Those came against defenses ranked 91st (2022 TCU), 120th (2022 Indiana), and 105th (2023 Purdue).

This is such a dumb argument. Penix was in his 6th year, McCarthy was in his 3rd. Penix numbers in his 3rd year weren’t good. He was a 56% passer who threw for 1600 yards vs roughly 72% and 3000 for McCarthy. Kenny Pickett was really good when he was a full grown adult, 5th year player going up against kids right out of high school too.

Whats a dumb argument? You seem to be responding to something I never said.

For the record I'm not a fan of either QB, but if someone is making a pro JJ argument then I think it's fair to point out he never once carried his team via his arm.

[stillthere]

My only 2 cents without reading beyond the first page is the only reason to sign him would be that you could get him for league minimum while Denver pays his salary.

Personally, I think he is done. Can he play football? Yes. Will he lead the Steelers to a Lombardi? Extremely doubtful.

[Steelperch]

My only 2 cents without reading beyond the first page is the only reason to sign him would be that you could get him for league minimum while Denver pays his salary.

Personally, I think he is done. Can he play football? Yes. Will he lead the Steelers to a Lombardi? Extremely doubtful.

The goal is NHALS, NHALS is the goal. Russ makes that damn near a lock. If he accidentally wins a playoff game or two it’s a bonus. I just would be way more entertained with Wilson at QB over Kenny Pickett.