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Pabst
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by Pabst » Wed Sep 25, 2024 4:29 pm
bradshaw2ben wrote: ↑Wed Sep 25, 2024 4:18 pm
The problem with this in Fields' case is you're likely going to have to take a huge gamble on him contract-wise before you really know what you've got. If he emerges as a top QB in the playoffs, then he'll be worth the money. If he doesn't or gets injured before you find out... you're probably going to have to pay him a lot of money on a multi-year agreement to find out. This is why the rookie contract window is so important.
At this point, we just have to see how it plays out. Hard to guarantee anything after 3 games.
Oh, for sure, and I'll also grant that the guys i listed are the exceptions not the rule.
With respect to his contract, the Steelers do have a ton of future cap space and (hopefully) they could structure any extension in a way that is incentive-laden or pushes out any guaranteed $ into the future.
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by Pabst » Wed Sep 25, 2024 4:57 pm
Havoc wrote: ↑Wed Sep 25, 2024 4:26 pm
I thought the Bears were stupid moving up and drafting Trubisky.
I just read an article stating the head coach for the Bears at the time John Fox had the QB position ranked in this order...
Watson 1
Mahomes 2
Trubisky 3
Unable to link the article
If true, the GM was not on the same page as the head coach (which the article implied). It's the bears, wouldn't be a surprise.
I don't think Jacksonville was stupid to take Trevor Lawrence in spite of how it has worked out to this point.
Here you go:
https://sports.yahoo.com/ex-bears-coach ... 59099.html
Just to be very clear - all the report says regarding John Fox is that he had Watson as his #1 QB. It does
not say that he had Mahomes as his #2. The Bears final draft board had Mahomes ranked 2nd....behind Trubisky.
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K_C_
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by K_C_ » Wed Sep 25, 2024 4:57 pm
Pabst wrote: ↑Wed Sep 25, 2024 4:24 pm
Havoc wrote: ↑Wed Sep 25, 2024 3:47 pm
They had Mahomes ranked behind Trubisky LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL
So I stopped reading
Everyone did. Go check out any mock draft or pre-draft analysis from ESPN, CBS, NFL.com, wherever.
Mahomes played in a gimmick offense in college and had a losing record as a starting QB. He was a classic boom-or-bust pick. All credit to him & the Chiefs for how he developed.
Perfectly stated.
But I will add this....I remember hating the Trubisky pick for Chicago. I did not think he showed enough for a long enough period of time (a bit like how folks here felt about Kenny) at UNC to warrant all the hype. I was right about that one. I knew almost nothing of Mahomes. Didn't see many of his games so I had no opinion on how good he would turn out to be.
The weird one I might turn out right about is Malik Willis!! I'm feeling pretty justified for wanting him in the first round for the Steelers! The Packers are going to have a very good problem when Jordan Love is ready to return.
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Havoc
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by Havoc » Wed Sep 25, 2024 5:31 pm
Pabst wrote: ↑Wed Sep 25, 2024 4:57 pm
Havoc wrote: ↑Wed Sep 25, 2024 4:26 pm
I thought the Bears were stupid moving up and drafting Trubisky.
I just read an article stating the head coach for the Bears at the time John Fox had the QB position ranked in this order...
Watson 1
Mahomes 2
Trubisky 3
Unable to link the article
If true, the GM was not on the same page as the head coach (which the article implied). It's the bears, wouldn't be a surprise.
I don't think Jacksonville was stupid to take Trevor Lawrence in spite of how it has worked out to this point.
Here you go:
https://sports.yahoo.com/ex-bears-coach ... 59099.html
Just to be very clear - all the report says regarding John Fox is that he had Watson as his #1 QB. It does
not say that he had Mahomes as his #2. The Bears final draft board had Mahomes ranked 2nd....behind Trubisky.
That's a different article.
The one I read stated exactly what I wrote.
Whether the article I read is accurate I do not know.
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stillthere
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by stillthere » Thu Oct 03, 2024 10:50 pm
Teams that HAVEN'T scored 20 points yet this season:
• Cleveland Browns
Most EXPENSIVE offense in the NFL
• Cleveland Browns
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TimmayLake
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by TimmayLake » Mon Oct 07, 2024 12:59 pm
The Steelers suck, but it appears they are currently the 2nd or 3rd best team in the AFCN.
It's clear the Ravens are the best in the AFCN. Yes, I know we have the same record, but they are better by far.
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W&M_Steeler
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by W&M_Steeler » Mon Oct 07, 2024 1:00 pm
stillthere wrote: ↑Thu Oct 03, 2024 10:50 pm
Teams that HAVEN'T scored 20 points yet this season:
• Cleveland Browns
Most EXPENSIVE offense in the NFL
• Cleveland Browns
Which is more grossly overpaid with respect to production- the Browns' O or the Steelers' D?
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by stillthere » Mon Oct 07, 2024 4:23 pm
W&M_Steeler wrote: ↑Mon Oct 07, 2024 1:00 pm
stillthere wrote: ↑Thu Oct 03, 2024 10:50 pm
Teams that HAVEN'T scored 20 points yet this season:
• Cleveland Browns
Most EXPENSIVE offense in the NFL
• Cleveland Browns
Which is more grossly overpaid with respect to production- the Browns' O or the Steelers' D?
Toss up. It is sad. At least the Browns don't have a long tradition of offense as opposed to the Steelers D.
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W&M_Steeler
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by W&M_Steeler » Sun Jan 12, 2025 4:08 am
W&M_Steeler wrote: ↑Thu Aug 29, 2024 2:34 pm
I'm betting the 2024 Steelers go 9-8, get the 7th seed, and lose by 30 points in the Wildcard Round- that's Tomlin ball, baby!
The 2024 Steelers did a little better than I predicted, but not by much
