The Norf

[.Kodiak]

The math is easy for me.

Still alive = root for wins
Eliminated = root for losses

I've been captured by the gravitational pull of NHALS

We have to lose to MIA and DET so we can have the NHALS SB in Wk18

[drmalba]

Except he too, almost did....against the eventual SB champs Broncos in 2015....minus AB.

Now we're dealing with "almosts"?
How far the bar has been lowered

"Almost" was first invoked with the 89 playoff game in Denver. Just keeping it fair.

IIRC that was with Fitzgerald Toussaint at RB and they played that Broncos team very tough. That was one of the beter Steeler defenses Tomlin ever had. With AB, who knows how far that team could have gone.

[anpsteel]

Now we're dealing with "almosts"?
How far the bar has been lowered

"Almost" was first invoked with the 89 playoff game in Denver. Just keeping it fair.

IIRC that was with Fitzgerald Toussaint at RB and they played that Broncos team very tough. That was one of the beter Steeler defenses Tomlin ever had. With AB, who knows how far that team could have gone.

iirc, toussaint was brought up from the practice squad, and they signed another player, off the couch, going into that game.

The team was banged up for sure-

[W&M_Steeler]

Now we're dealing with "almosts"?
How far the bar has been lowered

"Almost" was first invoked with the 89 playoff game in Denver. Just keeping it fair.

IIRC that was with Fitzgerald Toussaint at RB and they played that Broncos team very tough. That was one of the beter Steeler defenses Tomlin ever had. With AB, who knows how far that team could have gone.

Steelers had horrible injury luck in 2015. They lost Bell mid-season, then D'Angelo Williams in the last game of the regular season, then AB in the Wildcard with Ben also injured, yet they still managed to have Denver on the ropes in the Divisional round until their 4th string running back fumbled. I don't really fault Tomlin for 2015.

[CKSteeler]

With Brown I think they beat the Broncos. As is they were a few plays from accomplishing it. The Toussaint fumble being the key one.

But I see no reason to believe they would have beaten the Patriots the following week. We all know how that would have went even if at full strength.

[CKSteeler]

I consider that one of the more heartbreaking losses of the Tomlin era, though it doesn't get discussed that much. They should have beaten those Broncos and Ben played a very clean, methodical game with basically one arm.

[CoolShades]

Well said.

Noll had equity with what he accomplished.
WTF is Tomlin's resume? A SB. SB appearance and an AFCCG in 19 years.

Whoopy fuckin do.
I wish what happened to Moore would have happened to Tomlin.

Okay, so let's root for losses even though it's about that Tomlin's getting extended this spring.

You never know.
I thought Sullivan would never get canned bc he's a Boston boy and FSG owns the team. But they mutually parted ways after it became untenable on both sides.

Gotta hope and pray the same befalls Tomlin

This is where I am. Rooney needs to feel pressure, or for sure he will NEVER feel a need to revisit Tomlin’s future. Given enough pressure, hearing loud “Fire Tomlin” chants in his own stadium that are discussed nationally, and the fans loudly complaining on local talk shows and social media may force his hand. He also may not give a shit, but he did bow to the “Fire Canada” pressure and it’s going to get even uglier with Tomlin. I don’t think the fanbase is going to be on its best behavior during the draft if he’s still employed. The Rooney name will be dragged through the mud alongside Tomlin. I don’t think the entire Rooney family is on board with that.

[drmalba]

"Almost" was first invoked with the 89 playoff game in Denver. Just keeping it fair.

IIRC that was with Fitzgerald Toussaint at RB and they played that Broncos team very tough. That was one of the beter Steeler defenses Tomlin ever had. With AB, who knows how far that team could have gone.

Steelers had horrible injury luck in 2015. They lost Bell mid-season, then D'Angelo Williams in the last game of the regular season, then AB in the Wildcard with Ben also injured, yet they still managed to have Denver on the ropes in the Divisional round until their 4th string running back fumbled. I don't really fault Tomlin for 2015.

Bell get kneecapped in the Cincy game, right? Talk about real life mirroring team misfortune...I was in urgent care getting glass shards of a vacuum tube pulled out of my thumb watching the game on a TV in the clinic when that injury happened.

[955876]

"Almost" was first invoked with the 89 playoff game in Denver. Just keeping it fair.

IIRC that was with Fitzgerald Toussaint at RB and they played that Broncos team very tough. That was one of the beter Steeler defenses Tomlin ever had. With AB, who knows how far that team could have gone.

Steelers had horrible injury luck in 2015. They lost Bell mid-season, then D'Angelo Williams in the last game of the regular season, then AB in the Wildcard with Ben also injured, yet they still managed to have Denver on the ropes in the Divisional round until their 4th string running back fumbled. I don't really fault Tomlin for 2015.

I do. And I say that because along with all his other major flaws, roster building is also something he’s struggled with.

Always manages to create a hole in part to his own doing.

Let’s recap.

Jibbs has had a hard-on for tiny fast guys. Tried getting one multiple times. This time it was wee bitty 160 lb. Dri Archer in the 3rd round. A kid so small he’d never be able to line up as a RB and give you any amount of significant carries. So a complete gadget player from the get go. Fine if you are talking g a flyer in later rounds and your team is loaded.

Not fine when you need RB depth and would expect a 3rd rounder to start if need be.

208 lb. Devonta Freeman was taken by Atlanta 6 picks later in the 4th round.

If you recall, Bell was also hurt for our 2014 playoff loss to Baltimore. A game where we had to pull out of the league Ben Tate off his couch to start that playoff game. Hmmm, didn’t we burn a 3rd rounder on a RB?? Can’t he start? No. He’s too small.

We lost that game. Then we lost that 2015 playoff game against the Broncos also in large part to not having a running game. A game started by Touisant because the “RB” we drafted in the 3rd round the year prior was waived on Nov. 5, 2015.

Dri 2014 stats: 10 carries, 40 yards, 0 TDs
Dri 2015 stats: 0 carries, 0 yards, 0 TDs.

Freeman 2014 stats: 65 carries, 248 yards, 1 TD.
Freeman 2015 stats: 265 carries, 1,056 yards 11 TDs.
Freeman 2016 stats: 227 carries, 1,079 yards, 11 TDs.
Freeman 2017 stats: 196 carries, 865 yards, 7 TDs.


So yes, I blame Jibba for that 2015 loss AND the 2014 loss.

Freeman was a stud over the period we were spinning our wheels with scrub back-ups because our starters were hurt and our depth was wee bitty Dri all because Jibbs was fascinated with 40 times in a straight line.

[W&M_Steeler]

IIRC that was with Fitzgerald Toussaint at RB and they played that Broncos team very tough. That was one of the beter Steeler defenses Tomlin ever had. With AB, who knows how far that team could have gone.

Steelers had horrible injury luck in 2015. They lost Bell mid-season, then D'Angelo Williams in the last game of the regular season, then AB in the Wildcard with Ben also injured, yet they still managed to have Denver on the ropes in the Divisional round until their 4th string running back fumbled. I don't really fault Tomlin for 2015.

I do. And I say that because along with all his other major flaws, roster building is also something he’s struggled with.

Always manages to create a hole in part to his own doing.

Let’s recap.

Jibbs has had a hard-on for tiny fast guys. Tried getting one multiple times. This time it was wee bitty 160 lb. Dri Archer in the 3rd round. A kid so small he’d never be able to line up as a RB and give you any amount of significant carries. So a complete gadget player from the get go. Fine if you are talking g a flyer in later rounds and your team is loaded.

Not fine when you need RB depth and would expect a 3rd rounder to start if need be.

208 lb. Devonta Freeman was taken by Atlanta 6 picks later in the 4th round.

If you recall, Bell was also hurt for our 2014 playoff loss to Baltimore. A game where we had to pull out of the league Ben Tate off his couch to start that playoff game. Hmmm, didn’t we burn a 3rd rounder on a RB?? Can’t he start? No. He’s too small.

We lost that game. Then we lost that 2015 playoff game against the Broncos also in large part to not having a running game. A game started by Touisant because the “RB” we drafted in the 3rd round the year prior was waived on Nov. 5, 2015.

Dri 2014 stats: 10 carries, 40 yards, 0 TDs
Dri 2015 stats: 0 carries, 0 yards, 0 TDs.

Freeman 2014 stats: 65 carries, 248 yards, 1 TD.
Freeman 2015 stats: 265 carries, 1,056 yards 11 TDs.
Freeman 2016 stats: 227 carries, 1,079 yards, 11 TDs.
Freeman 2017 stats: 196 carries, 865 yards, 7 TDs.


So yes, I blame Jibba for that 2015 loss AND the 2014 loss.

Freeman was a stud over the period we were spinning our wheels with scrub back-ups because our starters were hurt and our depth was wee bitty Dri all because Jibbs was fascinated with 40 times in a straight line.

Dri was a bad pick, and the 2014 debacle was on Tomlin and Colbert, but they did a better job in 2015. They signed DeAngelo Williams as a back-up that year and he was great when Bell was lost. Few teams have the luxury of 3 great running backs and I don't blame Tomlin that both Bell and Williams were lost for the season, Williams in the last week.

[955876]

Steelers had horrible injury luck in 2015. They lost Bell mid-season, then D'Angelo Williams in the last game of the regular season, then AB in the Wildcard with Ben also injured, yet they still managed to have Denver on the ropes in the Divisional round until their 4th string running back fumbled. I don't really fault Tomlin for 2015.

I do. And I say that because along with all his other major flaws, roster building is also something he’s struggled with.

Always manages to create a hole in part to his own doing.

Let’s recap.

Jibbs has had a hard-on for tiny fast guys. Tried getting one multiple times. This time it was wee bitty 160 lb. Dri Archer in the 3rd round. A kid so small he’d never be able to line up as a RB and give you any amount of significant carries. So a complete gadget player from the get go. Fine if you are talking g a flyer in later rounds and your team is loaded.

Not fine when you need RB depth and would expect a 3rd rounder to start if need be.

208 lb. Devonta Freeman was taken by Atlanta 6 picks later in the 4th round.

If you recall, Bell was also hurt for our 2014 playoff loss to Baltimore. A game where we had to pull out of the league Ben Tate off his couch to start that playoff game. Hmmm, didn’t we burn a 3rd rounder on a RB?? Can’t he start? No. He’s too small.

We lost that game. Then we lost that 2015 playoff game against the Broncos also in large part to not having a running game. A game started by Touisant because the “RB” we drafted in the 3rd round the year prior was waived on Nov. 5, 2015.

Dri 2014 stats: 10 carries, 40 yards, 0 TDs
Dri 2015 stats: 0 carries, 0 yards, 0 TDs.

Freeman 2014 stats: 65 carries, 248 yards, 1 TD.
Freeman 2015 stats: 265 carries, 1,056 yards 11 TDs.
Freeman 2016 stats: 227 carries, 1,079 yards, 11 TDs.
Freeman 2017 stats: 196 carries, 865 yards, 7 TDs.


So yes, I blame Jibba for that 2015 loss AND the 2014 loss.

Freeman was a stud over the period we were spinning our wheels with scrub back-ups because our starters were hurt and our depth was wee bitty Dri all because Jibbs was fascinated with 40 times in a straight line.

Dri was a bad pick, and the 2014 debacle was on Tomlin and Colbert, but they did a better job in 2015. They signed DeAngelo Williams as a back-up that year and he was great when Bell was lost. Few teams have the luxury of 3 great running backs and I don't blame Tomlin that both Bell and Williams were lost for the season, Williams in the last week.

I don’t blame him for the injuries either.

But had they drafted an actual RB the year prior instead of getting cute (and dumb) it would not have been Touisant playing.

Still need 3 backs. And that poor decision the year prior meant having to put a total jag like Touisant on the roster in 2015.

[W&M_Steeler]

I do. And I say that because along with all his other major flaws, roster building is also something he’s struggled with.

Always manages to create a hole in part to his own doing.

Let’s recap.

Jibbs has had a hard-on for tiny fast guys. Tried getting one multiple times. This time it was wee bitty 160 lb. Dri Archer in the 3rd round. A kid so small he’d never be able to line up as a RB and give you any amount of significant carries. So a complete gadget player from the get go. Fine if you are talking g a flyer in later rounds and your team is loaded.

Not fine when you need RB depth and would expect a 3rd rounder to start if need be.

208 lb. Devonta Freeman was taken by Atlanta 6 picks later in the 4th round.

If you recall, Bell was also hurt for our 2014 playoff loss to Baltimore. A game where we had to pull out of the league Ben Tate off his couch to start that playoff game. Hmmm, didn’t we burn a 3rd rounder on a RB?? Can’t he start? No. He’s too small.

We lost that game. Then we lost that 2015 playoff game against the Broncos also in large part to not having a running game. A game started by Touisant because the “RB” we drafted in the 3rd round the year prior was waived on Nov. 5, 2015.

Dri 2014 stats: 10 carries, 40 yards, 0 TDs
Dri 2015 stats: 0 carries, 0 yards, 0 TDs.

Freeman 2014 stats: 65 carries, 248 yards, 1 TD.
Freeman 2015 stats: 265 carries, 1,056 yards 11 TDs.
Freeman 2016 stats: 227 carries, 1,079 yards, 11 TDs.
Freeman 2017 stats: 196 carries, 865 yards, 7 TDs.


So yes, I blame Jibba for that 2015 loss AND the 2014 loss.

Freeman was a stud over the period we were spinning our wheels with scrub back-ups because our starters were hurt and our depth was wee bitty Dri all because Jibbs was fascinated with 40 times in a straight line.

Dri was a bad pick, and the 2014 debacle was on Tomlin and Colbert, but they did a better job in 2015. They signed DeAngelo Williams as a back-up that year and he was great when Bell was lost. Few teams have the luxury of 3 great running backs and I don't blame Tomlin that both Bell and Williams were lost for the season, Williams in the last week.

I don’t blame him for the injuries either.

But had they drafted an actual RB the year prior instead of getting cute (and dumb) it would not have been Touisant playing.

Still need 3 backs. And that poor decision the year prior meant having to put a total jag like Touisant on the roster in 2015.

If they draft Freeman, then maybe they don't sign Williams, Freeman gets hurt, and the Steelers are still stuck with Touisant in the end. I hated the Dri pick (people thought he was going to be the next Sproles after one preseason catch - another preseason hero), but I don't recall Freeman was some slam dunk no brainer at the position. While the Dri Archer pick was braindead, saying they should have taken Freeman is some hindsight. It wouldn't have been much better if they would have taken Lorenzo Taliaferro instead of Archer in the 3rd, for example. 2015 is a bad example of Tomlin sucking, IMO. It was one of his best years

2014 was so much worse. Failing to use Blount, cutting him when he complained, then not signing a back for half a season only to have to scramble on Wild Card week and start new street free agent Ben Tate was malpractice to the extreme. That cost the Steelers a playoff run in Ben's best year (plus it got Ben concussed during the Wild Card game since there was no run threat and poor blocking).

[CKSteeler]

That 2014 wild card loss to the Ravens was the first highly notable example of the u-shaped offense and it was under Haley.

I was watching that game live screaming for them to throw to the middle of the field. Replay after replay showed guys wide the fuck open there and they weren't even looking/trying. So yea everyone pointed at the Bell injury and the scrub they signed off the street (a guy a lot of people had wanted the team to draft if I recall correctly), but it was very winnable if they just took what the Ravens were giving them.

Then I started to observe over the years that the offense had a high propensity for throwing outside the numbers in general and all deep shots consisted of go routes to isolated WR's.

[955876]

but I don't recall Freeman was some slam dunk no brainer at the position. While the Dri Archer pick was braindead, saying they should have taken Freeman is some hindsight.

I don’t think it’s hindsight at all. I’m not saying Freeman was some slam dunk. This why he went in the 4th.

I simply use him because he was next RB off the board after our “brain dead” selection of Dri.

When you need a RB you draft a RB. Freeman was a RB and at least comes in over 200 lbs.

Unlike wee bity Dri that didn’t have an NFL position. Evident to anyone by doing a simple eyeball test.

Jibbs is dumb.

[swissvale72]

That 2014 wild card loss to the Ravens was the first highly notable example of the u-shaped offense and it was under Haley.

I was watching that game live screaming for them to throw to the middle of the field. Replay after replay showed guys wide the fuck open there and they weren't even looking/trying. So yea everyone pointed at the Bell injury and the scrub they signed off the street (a guy a lot of people had wanted the team to draft if I recall correctly), but it was very winnable if they just took what the Ravens were giving them.

Then I started to observe over the years that the offense had a high propensity for throwing outside the numbers in general and all deep shots consisted of go routes to isolated WR's.

That fuckin game!! Got together with jizz mop pregame which was my first mistake cuz he's a fuckin jinx (with one notable exception). Sat in the stands with then 83 year old bill Priatko. Visited with dick lebeau postgame in the Steelers reception area who said, "can't do that shit in the playoffs." Art II came strolling by and had to restrain myself from punching him in the face!! Long story but driving across the Pa turnpike in the wee hours, stopped at the somerset rest area to get a Diet Coke and the place was inundated with bus loads of those purple mother fuckers on their way back to Baltimore. Shitty fuckin experience throughout

[955876]

Art II came strolling by and had to restrain myself from punching him in the face!!

You would have been a Steelers hero & legend had you taken him out.

Do better next time.

[swissvale72]

Art II came strolling by and had to restrain myself from punching him in the face!!

You would have been a Steelers hero & legend had you taken him out.

Do better next time.

No more access with LeBeau gone. Lol

[Deebo]

"Almost" was first invoked with the 89 playoff game in Denver. Just keeping it fair.

IIRC that was with Fitzgerald Toussaint at RB and they played that Broncos team very tough. That was one of the beter Steeler defenses Tomlin ever had. With AB, who knows how far that team could have gone.

Steelers had horrible injury luck in 2015. They lost Bell mid-season, then D'Angelo Williams in the last game of the regular season, then AB in the Wildcard with Ben also injured, yet they still managed to have Denver on the ropes in the Divisional round until their 4th string running back fumbled. I don't really fault Tomlin for 2015.

What was the year they signed Blount only for him to quit bc Tomlin wouldn't give him any carries? And I mean any carries...Bell was still toting it in a ton even in garbage time.

[DumlinBumlinStumlin]

Art II came strolling by and had to restrain myself from punching him in the face!!

You would have been a Steelers hero & legend had you taken him out.

Do better next time.

No more access with LeBeau gone. Lol

Don't be Nick Reiner

[Gonzo]

not very funny

this is a shame about Meathead

[DumlinBumlinStumlin]

not very funny

this is a shame about Meathead

Its terrible situation totally. Shouldn't have happened

[W&M_Steeler]

IIRC that was with Fitzgerald Toussaint at RB and they played that Broncos team very tough. That was one of the beter Steeler defenses Tomlin ever had. With AB, who knows how far that team could have gone.

Steelers had horrible injury luck in 2015. They lost Bell mid-season, then D'Angelo Williams in the last game of the regular season, then AB in the Wildcard with Ben also injured, yet they still managed to have Denver on the ropes in the Divisional round until their 4th string running back fumbled. I don't really fault Tomlin for 2015.

What was the year they signed Blount only for him to quit bc Tomlin wouldn't give him any carries? And I mean any carries...Bell was still toting it in a ton even in garbage time.

2014, the year that first made me start questioning Tomlin. Combine a complete mismanagement of the running back position that bit them in the ass at the worst possible time with Tomlin's team choking away a 1st round playoff bye through pathetic losses to the 4-12 Jets and, even worse, at home to the 2-14 Bucs led by the 2nd year QB Mike Glennon, and you end up with a wasted season at the peak of Ben's prime. That team should have at least made the AFCC game.

I couldn't believe the Steelers didn't sign a back-up after cutting Blount. I thought they must have believed their 4th stringer, undrafted Josh Harris, was a hidden gem who could start if Bell went down- I couldn't imagine they were stupid enough to not have a plan if that happened. Turns out they were that stupid. What makes it even worse is that Blount went right back to the Pats where he won a ring that season and had 14 carries in the Super Bowl. Way to show him who's boss, Mike.

[Deebo]

Steelers had horrible injury luck in 2015. They lost Bell mid-season, then D'Angelo Williams in the last game of the regular season, then AB in the Wildcard with Ben also injured, yet they still managed to have Denver on the ropes in the Divisional round until their 4th string running back fumbled. I don't really fault Tomlin for 2015.

What was the year they signed Blount only for him to quit bc Tomlin wouldn't give him any carries? And I mean any carries...Bell was still toting it in a ton even in garbage time.

2014, the year that first made me start questioning Tomlin. Combine a complete mismanagement of the running back position that bit them in the ass at the worst possible time with Tomlin's team choking away a 1st round playoff bye through pathetic losses to the 4-12 Jets and, even worse, at home to the 2-14 Bucs led by the 2nd year QB Mike Glennon, and you end up with a wasted season at the peak of Ben's prime. That team should have at least made the AFCC game.

I couldn't believe the Steelers didn't sign a back-up after cutting Blount. I thought they must have believed their 4th stringer, undrafted Josh Harris, was a hidden gem who could start if Bell went down- I couldn't imagine they were stupid enough to not have a plan if that happened. Turns out they were that stupid. What makes it even worse is that Blount went right back to the Pats where he won a ring that season and had 14 carries in the Super Bowl. Way to show him who's boss, Mike.

I started having questions regarding Tomlin after the Tim Tebow playoff loss.
2014 is when I my questions about Tomlin evaporated and I was convinced he was a total fraud. But back then, if you questioned Tomlin's acumen, you were branded a racist in every corner of the internet and local drinking establishment.

[W&M_Steeler]

What was the year they signed Blount only for him to quit bc Tomlin wouldn't give him any carries? And I mean any carries...Bell was still toting it in a ton even in garbage time.

2014, the year that first made me start questioning Tomlin. Combine a complete mismanagement of the running back position that bit them in the ass at the worst possible time with Tomlin's team choking away a 1st round playoff bye through pathetic losses to the 4-12 Jets and, even worse, at home to the 2-14 Bucs led by the 2nd year QB Mike Glennon, and you end up with a wasted season at the peak of Ben's prime. That team should have at least made the AFCC game.

I couldn't believe the Steelers didn't sign a back-up after cutting Blount. I thought they must have believed their 4th stringer, undrafted Josh Harris, was a hidden gem who could start if Bell went down- I couldn't imagine they were stupid enough to not have a plan if that happened. Turns out they were that stupid. What makes it even worse is that Blount went right back to the Pats where he won a ring that season and had 14 carries in the Super Bowl. Way to show him who's boss, Mike.

I started having questions regarding Tomlin after the Tim Tebow playoff loss.
2014 is when I my questions about Tomlin evaporated and I was convinced he was a total fraud. But back then, if you questioned Tomlin's acumen, you were branded a racist in every corner of the internet and local drinking establishment.

At the time I chalked the Tebow loss up as a fluke caused mostly by all the injuries the Steelers suffered during the game, particularly on D. I didn't hold it against Tomlin at the time.

2014 was a slow motion train crash. I still remember being in shock at that Bucs loss, and that was just the start.

[anpsteel]

Bill Parcells: complacency is the enemy of greatness


https://www.facebook.com/share/r/1ChPTV ... tid=wwXIfr

[955876]

2014, the year that first made me start questioning Tomlin. Combine a complete mismanagement of the running back position that bit them in the ass at the worst possible time with Tomlin's team choking away a 1st round playoff bye through pathetic losses to the 4-12 Jets and, even worse, at home to the 2-14 Bucs led by the 2nd year QB Mike Glennon, and you end up with a wasted season at the peak of Ben's prime. That team should have at least made the AFCC game.

I couldn't believe the Steelers didn't sign a back-up after cutting Blount. I thought they must have believed their 4th stringer, undrafted Josh Harris, was a hidden gem who could start if Bell went down- I couldn't imagine they were stupid enough to not have a plan if that happened. Turns out they were that stupid. What makes it even worse is that Blount went right back to the Pats where he won a ring that season and had 14 carries in the Super Bowl. Way to show him who's boss, Mike.

I started having questions regarding Tomlin after the Tim Tebow playoff loss.
2014 is when I my questions about Tomlin evaporated and I was convinced he was a total fraud. But back then, if you questioned Tomlin's acumen, you were branded a racist in every corner of the internet and local drinking establishment.

At the time I chalked the Tebow loss up as a fluke caused mostly by all the injuries the Steelers suffered during the game, particularly on D. I didn't hold it against Tomlin at the time.

2014 was a slow motion train crash. I still remember being in shock at that Bucs loss, and that was just the start.

That Tebow loss was the 1st year of modified OT where both teams get the ball unless the team that got it first scores a TD.

Look at our defensive formation for that 1st play in OT. Literally all 11 defenders were within like 5 yards of the LOS at the snap. No doubt there to “smash the run”. Can’t let Timmy break off 12 yards in the ground.

Instead we give up a wide open 80 yards TD pass.

Now I realize Lebeau was still DC for that game but I certainly think Jibbs had a say by then.

Bill Belichick certainly didn’t have any problems defending Tebow the following week. Smashed that minor leaguer like a real defensive coach should and pretty much ended his career.

Timmy at least got to blow his playoff wad all over Jibba’s face though.

[Gonzo]

the ballbuster about the end of that brncos game was tebow had done that the whole game -- it wasnt a surpirse at the end
one of the fist hints of a certain coaches stubborn clinging to a tired old plan (and to be fair -- Lebeau is implicated in the Broncos stupidity as well)

Tebow was ...
10-of-21 passing for 316 yards

the problem with tomlin is not just dislike from losing and a few bad breaks in playoff games -- everyone loses some in the playoffs
its the SAME pattern/plan over and over and over and over again ... with the next year just be a doubling down on and making the old plan evern more old and conservative and every team in the Playoffs knowing exactly what it will be and that it will NOT change before, during or after the game

I have come to blame Rooney more for this -- not just due to refusal to act or push. But, it seems more and more that the Plan is in part dictated by him. He has this tired, old and really flat wrong idea of Steeler football. He doesnt really know the game let alone the modern game and has wrongly conflated tough smash-mouth football with conservative, attrition football (all the time). Noll and Cowher also turtled and also were stubborn but they were willing to use different ways to win a particular game (even if turtle boy cowher reverted with a lead !). They are protecting a style and a brand but without a clue on what it really is or how to achieve, develop, build and win with it

[.Kodiak]

the ballbuster about the end of that brncos game was tebow had done that the whole game -- it wasnt a surpirse at the end

Maddeningly stupid call. Their entire offense was Tebow throwing bombs against toasted DBs.....So Mike Tomlin - and I GUARANTEE THAT WAS HIS CALL - comes up with the brilliant idea of Cover 0.

ANYONE who watched that game would have known that was the absolute dumbest call you could have made. That's how I know it was Tomlin.

[lifelongsteel]

re: winning the NORF. Looks like an almost certainty that Ravens @ Steelers will be played on Sunday night for the division title.

With the Ravens likely holding the "common teams" tie breaker, the only way to avoid a 1 game clash for the title would be:

- Steelers win all 3, Ravens lose 1+
- Steelers win 2+, Ravens lose both

The likeliest outcome is Steelers win 1 or 2 and Ravens win 1 or 2 and they play one game for the title.

Most entertaining outcome of course is Steelers go into the game 8-8 and play the 7-9 Ravens that Sunday night for "ALL" the marbles.

Division + NHALS

A true win win. Steelers either win the division. Or RIP NHALS

[955876]

the ballbuster about the end of that brncos game was tebow had done that the whole game -- it wasnt a surpirse at the end
one of the fist hints of a certain coaches stubborn clinging to a tired old plan (and to be fair -- Lebeau is implicated in the Broncos stupidity as well)

Tebow was ...
10-of-21 passing for 316 yards

the problem with tomlin is not just dislike from losing and a few bad breaks in playoff games -- everyone loses some in the playoffs
its the SAME pattern/plan over and over and over and over again ... with the next year just be a doubling down on and making the old plan evern more old and conservative and every team in the Playoffs knowing exactly what it will be and that it will NOT change before, during or after the game

I have come to blame Rooney more for this -- not just due to refusal to act or push. But, it seems more and more that the Plan is in part dictated by him. He has this tired, old and really flat wrong idea of Steeler football. He doesnt really know the game let alone the modern game and has wrongly conflated tough smash-mouth football with conservative, attrition football (all the time). Noll and Cowher also turtled and also were stubborn but they were willing to use different ways to win a particular game (even if turtle boy cowher reverted with a lead !). They are protecting a style and a brand but without a clue on what it really is or how to achieve, develop, build and win with it

Spot the fuck on.

Dunce seems to forget that TB led the league in passing in 78 and that we got to the 05 SB in part due to Cowher shifting to 5 wides.