Steelers at Browns Game Comments & Chat

[stillthere]

This one got 3 games

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Antonio Smith ripped off Richie Incognito’s helmet and then swung it at his head.

[punum123]

Next time we see Garrett on the field, they need to chop his ass every play. Roll into that block too and see if ya cant snap his ankle and tear up his knee. Cripple this piece of cheap shit.

Not to worry, he’ll be a cheerleader on the sideline next time we play...no question.

[ToddHaleysNineIron]

You know who else was far from great tonight? Baker Mayfield. He’s a 2nd overall pick and is nothing more than a good QB.

B2B please make this a sticky quote! Anyone who wants to post praise about Mason should have to sign a paper that acknowledges you have read this quote!

I would add to the quote “ and looks like a medium budget porn star.”

I don't think anyone would praise Mason Rudolph, but if you don't take the following into consideration:
Road on a short week (Thurs Night Game)
Essentially losing top 2 WR during the game
Losing starting RB among other RB injuries
Under-performing offensive line play

I mean, I doubt Baker Mayfield or any first or second year QB's do well in that situation.... hell I'm not sure Ben Roethlisburger survives that situation.

Sometimes everything is bad in a game... but to harp on your backup QB whose in his 6th or 7th NFL game is a bit silly. Steelers were dealt a shitty hand this season - the fact they are even in a playoff race is absolutely amazing. I get it - that's how this place works... you harp on a point over and over again and focus only on that. I would say some of you have a career in sports radio - but I think the antagonizing fat guy has that shtick well taken care of.

[stillthere]

Next time we see Garrett on the field, they need to chop his ass every play. Roll into that block too and see if ya cant snap his ankle and tear up his knee. Cripple this piece of cheap shit.

Not to worry, he’ll be a cheerleader on the sideline next time we play...no question.

I don't think he is allowed to the games if suspended.

[Steelafan77]

That seemed like the most exciting part of the Steelers night all night. That was the sorriest I've seen this team be in a long time. I guess they were do...

[stillthere]

Myles Garrett: “A win’s a win. I don’t think it’s overshadowed by what happened in eight seconds.”

Douche has no idea what is coming up this week for him.

[stillthere]

trey wingo
‏Verified account @wingoz
1h1 hour ago

The NFL will come down hard on Myles Garrett fast... but you know what? Freddie Kitchens does't have to wait for the NFL to make their decision. He should immediately suspend Garrett from the team pending the NFL's decision. That would be leadership

[Professor Half Wit]

That was classless. Thuggish.

Regarding the Steelers, though: how mad should we be about the Steelers losing? Just what in the hell did we think was going to happen without Ben? I'm still shocked the team has done this well. We are not doing anything this year. As soon as Ben went down, that check was cashed.

[Orangesteel]

That was classless. Thuggish.

Regarding the Steelers, though: how mad should we be about the Steelers losing? Just what in the hell did we think was going to happen without Ben? I'm still shocked the team has done this well. We are not doing anything this year. As soon as Ben went down, that check was cashed.

Wait, so we can’t be mad now after watching a performance like that? I said all week that was going to be a tough game. I said tougher than the Rams.

But we can’t be annoyed at how bad/careless MR was with the football? The ONLY not horrible throw/INT Mason threw last night was on the flea flicker to Jones that was picked by Burnett, and even that was a pretty bad, underthrown ball.

The other three INTs were three of the worst throws I’ve seen by maybe any QB in the league, all season. Yes, there were “protection issues” last night, but we needed a big game from MR based on how he was trending, and WOW did we get the opposite or that.

Browns were 3-6. Brandon Allen beat the Browns two weeks ago by playing smart, don’t throw stupid ass INT, football. Nobody is saying MR needs to be all-world. Hell, of course he’s going to throw a pick here and there.

But that performance last night shows everything that is wrong with MR and more. He’s not the future at this position. The defense played a very good game last night and held a dangerous offense in check. All MR had to do was hit some targets and not throw some of the worst balls I’ve seen maybe ever, and we win that game.

Only silver lining is that yes, we know MR’s ceiling and it’s somewhere in between Blake Bortles and Cade McNown.

[ToddHaleysNineIron]

That was classless. Thuggish.

Regarding the Steelers, though: how mad should we be about the Steelers losing? Just what in the hell did we think was going to happen without Ben? I'm still shocked the team has done this well. We are not doing anything this year. As soon as Ben went down, that check was cashed.

Wait, so we can’t be mad now after watching a performance like that? I said all week that was going to be a tough game. I said tougher than the Rams.

But we can’t be annoyed at how bad/careless MR was with the football? The ONLY not horrible throw/INT Mason threw last night was on the flea flicker to Jones that was picked by Burnett, and even that was a pretty bad, underthrown ball.

The other three INTs were three of the worst throws I’ve seen by maybe any QB in the league, all season. Yes, there were “protection issues” last night, but we needed a big game from MR based on how he was trending, and WOW did we get the opposite or that.

Browns were 3-6. Brandon Allen beat the Browns two weeks ago by playing smart, don’t throw stupid ass INT, football. Nobody is saying MR needs to be all-world. Hell, of course he’s going to throw a pick here and there.

But that performance last night shows everything that is wrong with MR and more. He’s not the future at this position. The defense played a very good game last night and held a dangerous offense in check. All MR had to do was hit some targets and not throw some of the worst balls I’ve seen maybe ever, and we win that game.

Only silver lining is that yes, we know MR’s ceiling and it’s somewhere in between Blake Bortles and Cade McNown.

I don't think anyone is saying that. I think the following is all true:
MR had an awful game.
The oline had an awful game.
Pretty tough to deal with the top 2 WR being injured as well as losing your starting RB.
Thurs night game on the road is always a tough game for teams with starters playing the whole game.

I'm not going to let a game like last night define a player because I think given the situation - a lot of good starting QB's would have had some problems last night, just the nature of the beast.

Some will point to that game last night and try to use it to advance their narrative... but I think sensible people will look at the game, how it unfolded, and just chaulk it up to some really bad circumstances that I would think an experienced starting QB would struggle let alone a guy playing his 6th or 7th game. Did MR help himself or the team overcome those circumstances? Hell no... but that's a fairly big ask for anyone.

In no way would I look at that game and use it to define the future of a quarterback... that's silly.

[Donnie Brasco]

Colin Dunlap
✔
@colin_dunlap
Please don't let this fight at the end gloss over:
-The QB was atrocious.
- The OC is lost.
- 2 WRs got hurt.
- The top RB didn't make it through another game.
- The O-Line looked bad again.
- The TE grouping is doing zero.

376
7:33 AM - Nov 15, 2019

[ToddHaleysNineIron]

Colin Dunlap
✔
@colin_dunlap
Please don't let this fight at the end gloss over:
-The QB was atrocious.
- The OC is lost.
- 2 WRs got hurt.
- The top RB didn't make it through another game.
- The O-Line looked bad again.
- The TE grouping is doing zero.

376
7:33 AM - Nov 15, 2019

I was thinking Fitchner was awful... but when your oline does nothing, and you lose a bunch of players and replace them with guys you had to cut earlier in the year and bring back - I'm guessing you get limited pretty quickly in your playbook.

I still don't think he calls enough passes out of obvious run sets nor runs when things are spread out.

Last night the first series, run-run-pass... the runs were against 8 or 9 in the box. 3rd and long and its an obvious pass down.

Comes out the next possession and I think goes pass-pass-pass... but they were obvious pass formations.

[Orangesteel]

Colin Dunlap
✔
@colin_dunlap
Please don't let this fight at the end gloss over:
-The QB was atrocious.
- The OC is lost.
- 2 WRs got hurt.
- The top RB didn't make it through another game.
- The O-Line looked bad again.
- The TE grouping is doing zero.

376
7:33 AM - Nov 15, 2019

I was thinking Fitchner was awful... but when your oline does nothing, and you lose a bunch of players and replace them with guys you had to cut earlier in the year and bring back - I'm guessing you get limited pretty quickly in your playbook.

I still don't think he calls enough passes out of obvious run sets nor runs when things are spread out.

Last night the first series, run-run-pass... the runs were against 8 or 9 in the box. 3rd and long and its an obvious pass down.

Comes out the next possession and I think goes pass-pass-pass... but they were obvious pass formations.

Make no mistake, Rustbelt Randy is terrible. But Mason’s arm was on full display last night and um, well, yeah.

He isn’t playing in Stillwater anymore. That pass happy air-raid system has failed more times than I can think of in the NFL. If he has to step up in the pocket, Mason is DEAD. He doesn’t have the ability to process pressure and make the tight throw. He sails throws. He short arms throws. He throws late, low, high, behind, etc.

Big play early in the game on 3rd and 1 after we picked up 9 yards on first down; Diontae is WTFO on a short three yard crosser, the ball looks like it is stuck to Mason’s hand and he throws it two yards in front of, and two yards under, his intended target in Johnson.

He’s a capable back up. That’s it.

[jebrick]

Remember the NFL's method for determining the severity of penalties for infractions:

Big media outrage + small infraction = Big penalty

Small media outrage + big infraction = small penalty

Let's see how big the media outrage over Garrett whacking Mason is.

i totally agree.

My prediction is Garrett and Pouncey with 4 games reduced to 2. Finger waggling and a fine for everyone else.

After Gronk's WWE elbow smash on a player who lying on his face and gave him a concussion get 2 games reduced to 1. The NFL does not care.

[LakecrestSteeler]

You know who else was far from great tonight? Baker Mayfield. He’s a 2nd overall pick and is nothing more than a good QB.

B2B please make this a sticky quote! Anyone who wants to post praise about Mason should have to sign a paper that acknowledges you have read this quote!

I would add to the quote “ and looks like a medium budget porn star.”

I don't think anyone would praise Mason Rudolph, but if you don't take the following into consideration:
Road on a short week (Thurs Night Game)
Essentially losing top 2 WR during the game
Losing starting RB among other RB injuries
Under-performing offensive line play

I mean, I doubt Baker Mayfield or any first or second year QB's do well in that situation.... hell I'm not sure Ben Roethlisburger survives that situation.

Sometimes everything is bad in a game... but to harp on your backup QB whose in his 6th or 7th NFL game is a bit silly. Steelers were dealt a shitty hand this season - the fact they are even in a playoff race is absolutely amazing. I get it - that's how this place works... you harp on a point over and over again and focus only on that. I would say some of you have a career in sports radio - but I think the antagonizing fat guy has that shtick well taken care of.

Fair if you call him a backup and not the QB of the future, and the face of the franchise post Ben.

[steelmann58]

the one bright note is the Injury that Artie got last night should end his steelers career.
PS is Artie makes that tackle last night on the Return OLA does not get Injured.

[Professor Half Wit]

That was classless. Thuggish.

Regarding the Steelers, though: how mad should we be about the Steelers losing? Just what in the hell did we think was going to happen without Ben? I'm still shocked the team has done this well. We are not doing anything this year. As soon as Ben went down, that check was cashed.

Wait, so we can’t be mad now after watching a performance like that? I said all week that was going to be a tough game. I said tougher than the Rams.

But we can’t be annoyed at how bad/careless MR was with the football? The ONLY not horrible throw/INT Mason threw last night was on the flea flicker to Jones that was picked by Burnett, and even that was a pretty bad, underthrown ball.

The other three INTs were three of the worst throws I’ve seen by maybe any QB in the league, all season. Yes, there were “protection issues” last night, but we needed a big game from MR based on how he was trending, and WOW did we get the opposite or that.

Browns were 3-6. Brandon Allen beat the Browns two weeks ago by playing smart, don’t throw stupid ass INT, football. Nobody is saying MR needs to be all-world. Hell, of course he’s going to throw a pick here and there.

But that performance last night shows everything that is wrong with MR and more. He’s not the future at this position. The defense played a very good game last night and held a dangerous offense in check. All MR had to do was hit some targets and not throw some of the worst balls I’ve seen maybe ever, and we win that game.

Only silver lining is that yes, we know MR’s ceiling and it’s somewhere in between Blake Bortles and Cade McNown.

Nothing in my post suggests you cannot be mad. I asked how much anger is appropriate? We know what Mason is. Any win is gravy as far as I am concerned. I do not expect to win anything without Ben.

Randy sucks.

Mason is as of now a quality back up, not a starter.

The moment Ben went down, a deep playoff push or even making the playoffs became pretty much impossible.

What I'm saying is, when you turn on your television for the remainder of the season to watch our Steelers play football, what kind of expectations are you actually having? I'm overjoyed to watch our defense play incredible football. It's been obvious that the offense is wretched. Losing is not shocking. Not in the least.

[ToddHaleysNineIron]

B2B please make this a sticky quote! Anyone who wants to post praise about Mason should have to sign a paper that acknowledges you have read this quote!

I would add to the quote “ and looks like a medium budget porn star.”

I don't think anyone would praise Mason Rudolph, but if you don't take the following into consideration:
Road on a short week (Thurs Night Game)
Essentially losing top 2 WR during the game
Losing starting RB among other RB injuries
Under-performing offensive line play

I mean, I doubt Baker Mayfield or any first or second year QB's do well in that situation.... hell I'm not sure Ben Roethlisburger survives that situation.

Sometimes everything is bad in a game... but to harp on your backup QB whose in his 6th or 7th NFL game is a bit silly. Steelers were dealt a shitty hand this season - the fact they are even in a playoff race is absolutely amazing. I get it - that's how this place works... you harp on a point over and over again and focus only on that. I would say some of you have a career in sports radio - but I think the antagonizing fat guy has that shtick well taken care of.

Fair if you call him a backup and not the QB of the future, and the face of the franchise post Ben.

He's a backup this year for sure, that was his role is it usually is for that position at that experience level. I won't make a judgement on the rest of his career after a single game given the elements, that's shear lunacy.

[LakecrestSteeler]

It is more than 1 game, less than 16, but exactly equal to enough. He is a questionable career back-up QB.

[El Kabong]

That was classless. Thuggish.

Regarding the Steelers, though: how mad should we be about the Steelers losing? Just what in the hell did we think was going to happen without Ben? I'm still shocked the team has done this well. We are not doing anything this year. As soon as Ben went down, that check was cashed.

Wait, so we can’t be mad now after watching a performance like that? I said all week that was going to be a tough game. I said tougher than the Rams.

But we can’t be annoyed at how bad/careless MR was with the football? The ONLY not horrible throw/INT Mason threw last night was on the flea flicker to Jones that was picked by Burnett, and even that was a pretty bad, underthrown ball.

The other three INTs were three of the worst throws I’ve seen by maybe any QB in the league, all season. Yes, there were “protection issues” last night, but we needed a big game from MR based on how he was trending, and WOW did we get the opposite or that.

Browns were 3-6. Brandon Allen beat the Browns two weeks ago by playing smart, don’t throw stupid ass INT, football. Nobody is saying MR needs to be all-world. Hell, of course he’s going to throw a pick here and there.

But that performance last night shows everything that is wrong with MR and more. He’s not the future at this position. The defense played a very good game last night and held a dangerous offense in check. All MR had to do was hit some targets and not throw some of the worst balls I’ve seen maybe ever, and we win that game.

Only silver lining is that yes, we know MR’s ceiling and it’s somewhere in between Blake Bortles and Cade McNown.

Nothing in my post suggests you cannot be mad. I asked how much anger is appropriate? We know what Mason is. Any win is gravy as far as I am concerned. I do not expect to win anything without Ben.

Randy sucks.

Mason is as of now a quality back up, not a starter.

The moment Ben went down, a deep playoff push or even making the playoffs became pretty much impossible.

What I'm saying is, when you turn on your television for the remainder of the season to watch our Steelers play football, what kind of expectations are you actually having? I'm overjoyed to watch our defense play incredible football. It's been obvious that the offense is wretched. Losing is not shocking. Not in the least.

I would say when Ben went down the odds of making the super bowl went to pretty much zero, but the playoffs are still a possibility though harder with last night's loss.

[El Kabong]

That was classless. Thuggish.

Regarding the Steelers, though: how mad should we be about the Steelers losing? Just what in the hell did we think was going to happen without Ben? I'm still shocked the team has done this well. We are not doing anything this year. As soon as Ben went down, that check was cashed.

Wait, so we can’t be mad now after watching a performance like that? I said all week that was going to be a tough game. I said tougher than the Rams.

But we can’t be annoyed at how bad/careless MR was with the football? The ONLY not horrible throw/INT Mason threw last night was on the flea flicker to Jones that was picked by Burnett, and even that was a pretty bad, underthrown ball.

The other three INTs were three of the worst throws I’ve seen by maybe any QB in the league, all season. Yes, there were “protection issues” last night, but we needed a big game from MR based on how he was trending, and WOW did we get the opposite or that.

Browns were 3-6. Brandon Allen beat the Browns two weeks ago by playing smart, don’t throw stupid ass INT, football. Nobody is saying MR needs to be all-world. Hell, of course he’s going to throw a pick here and there.

But that performance last night shows everything that is wrong with MR and more. He’s not the future at this position. The defense played a very good game last night and held a dangerous offense in check. All MR had to do was hit some targets and not throw some of the worst balls I’ve seen maybe ever, and we win that game.

Only silver lining is that yes, we know MR’s ceiling and it’s somewhere in between Blake Bortles and Cade McNown.

Given that Mason is in his second year and this is his first year starting, I'm assuming he will continue to improve, and for that reason I'm not sure we do know what his ceiling is.

[bradshaw2ben]

That isn't necessarily how it works. Lots of QBs get worse instead of better. And, furthermore, there are practically none who don't show the key elements of outlier success at some point early on who then subsequently go on to be great.

the fact that Rudolph could be tolerable at some point means nothing to me. I'm still not paying him C$2, therefore I'm not worried about his development beyond: can he step in as a spot starter for a Super Bowl-contending team next year if called upon? I have enough info to have that answer, actually: Maybe. Aginst a certain kind of opponent.

I think he needs to sit and watch a different QB work with this same cast of characters. See the tempo be quicker, see the early throws be trusted, see less buttoned-up play, for better or worse.

[Kodiak]

That isn't necessarily how it works. Lots of QBs get worse instead of better. And, furthermore, there are practically none who don't show the key elements of outlier success at some point early on who then subsequently go on to be great.

Bingo. You were a tad bit slower than me to realize that, but you stated it much more clearly and succinctly.

[Kodiak]

Given that Mason is in his second year and this is his first year starting, I'm assuming he will continue to improve, and for that reason I'm not sure we do know what his ceiling is.

We've absolutely seen enough [or not] to know what his ceiling isn't.

As B2B said, the greats flash that greatness early on, even while they might be struggling.

[bradshaw2ben]

That isn't necessarily how it works. Lots of QBs get worse instead of better. And, furthermore, there are practically none who don't show the key elements of outlier success at some point early on who then subsequently go on to be great.

Bingo. You were a tad bit slower than me to realize that, but you stated it much more clearly and succinctly.

I think you are mistaking me for someone else!