Let’s just hope enough of a precedent hasn’t been set that this issue continues to repeat itself.
We all know we are saddled with Jibba Jabba for the foreseeable future.
Ingram traded to the Chiefs
And besides this is all old news now anyways. Have a game with Chicago coming up.
A game we should be able to win.
Well, provided no social issues creep up before Monday for Jibbs to stub his toe on again.
Seems pretty calm out there so looking for a W Monday night.
A game we should be able to win.
Well, provided no social issues creep up before Monday for Jibbs to stub his toe on again.
Seems pretty calm out there so looking for a W Monday night.
Plus 4 passes = 3733
To zero
Look guy, all I’m saying is the HC needs to know the pulse of his team and also be able to look out over the horizon.
Most teams are able to successfully rotate backs.
We didn’t and lost a playoff game in large part due that.
All the while the player we couldn’t give a few touches to helps NE win a SB.
Now feels like we are going down a similar path by moving Ingram.
Who’s to say tired legs or an injury doesn’t derail our defense come year end?
And at this point, Ingram was a better option than the other guys who’ll be #3 OLB.
Maybe that’ll prove to not be the case. Time will tell.
No. You are saying the HC needs to pull a player having a career day to placate a backup's ego. That, or you are saying that Legarette Blount is justified in throwing a hissy fit because he didn't play over an elite back having a career day.
Also, again, this is ONE INSTANCE over a 15 year period and is in no way/shape/form unique to Tomlin.
"The fact that Mike Tomlin didn't give our backup more snaps in a game 7 years ago when our starter was having a career day shows that he's bad at locker room management"
Phenomenal argument. Take a bow.
Phenomenal argument. Take a bow.
No. I’m saying there is no reason for one RB to get 37 opportunities to zero when you have a capable backup to absorb some of those.No. You are saying the HC needs to pull a player having a career day to placate a backup's ego.
Again, looking out on the horizon and all.
It isn’t in any RBs best interest to get that many carries.
You can slice it anyway you wish Pabst.
At the end of the day the situation led us to lose a playoff game as a result.
Or at the least, be FAR less able to compete in that game given we had to pull a guy off the street to start.
I definitely have the benefit of hindsight on my side.
You do not.
Go Ben Tate.
Go Josh Harris.
Go 3rd round RB in wee boy Archer that couldn’t fill that void either.
Maybe we will feed Najee the ball 30+ times a game too…
Bell was averaging over 6 yards per carry. There's your reason.
Also, I'll repeat this:
"The fact that Mike Tomlin didn't give our backup more snaps in a game 7 years ago when our starter was having a career day shows that he's bad at locker room management"
Phenomenal argument. Take a bow.
Where are the trophies for a RB having a “career day” in the regular season?
Me, I like advancing in the playoffs. Something we failed to do that season after we jettisoned a very capable backup we ended up needing.
Take a bow yourself for having some stats to brag about.
And this is only being discussed now due to a similar situation arising.
It’s not like out of the blue I started harping this.
Me, I like advancing in the playoffs. Something we failed to do that season after we jettisoned a very capable backup we ended up needing.
Take a bow yourself for having some stats to brag about.
And this is only being discussed now due to a similar situation arising.
It’s not like out of the blue I started harping this.
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It’s a coming…Maybe we will feed Najee the ball 30+ times a game too…
"The fact that Mike Tomlin didn't give our backup more snaps in a game 7 years ago when our starter was having a career day shows that he's bad at locker room management"955876 wrote: ↑Thu Nov 04, 2021 6:45 pmWhere are the trophies for a RB having a “career day” in the regular season?
Me, I like advancing in the playoffs. Something we failed to do that season after we jettisoned a very capable backup we ended up needing.
Take a bow yourself for having some stats to brag about.
Phenomenal argument. Take a bow.
RBs and pass rushers dont wear down in your world I suppose.
Best to just run the wheels off of them.
Those other coaches that proactively have a rotation at those positions are idiots.
Best to just run the wheels off of them.
Those other coaches that proactively have a rotation at those positions are idiots.
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For a long long time the Steelers have done a poor job rotating players and keeping legs fresh
I suspect it goes deep to FO and has something to do with the Steelers cap management
It was much the same under Cowher
I suspect it goes deep to FO and has something to do with the Steelers cap management
It was much the same under Cowher
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Maybe.I suspect it goes deep to FO and has something to do with the Steelers cap management
But not the case here when an able bodied back-up was on roster.
If it was one game 7 years ago why in the world are we talking bout it today??
Couldn’t be because once again we’ve been depleted of our vet depth could it?
But you think what you wish. I am of the opinion many of the teams issues can be traced back to Jibba. You seem of the opinion he’s a victim of circumstance.
Jibbs will certainly stubb his toe again so let’s shelf this and debate that when he does.
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Oh so now you want to sling personal insults.
Something I’ve not done in this debate.
How back you go suck some more shit out of Jibba’s ass you cocksucker.
Something I’ve not done in this debate.
How back you go suck some more shit out of Jibba’s ass you cocksucker.
Ahem…One game. Seven years ago.
That's your entire argument.
Never one to learn a thing or two or grow as a coach.
Ole Mikey T gives Lev Bell 38 carries to zero for Deangelo Williams as the season was winding down.
29 carries vs 2 for DW in wildcard game.
30 carries to zero for DW in divisional round.
That’s 59 carries to 2 in case you are struggling with the math. And if you look at the other games down the stretch Lev Bell logged almost 100% of all carries in those games.
Lev Bell then comes up gimpy in the championship game the following week after 6 carries.
Rusty DW asked to carry the load. Remember when he started that season leading the league in rushing?
We lose.
Healthy and fresh Lev Bell would have been nice.
But Jibbs doesn’t believe in rotating his backs.
So pretty much just shoved that “1 game 7 years ago” up your ass as Jibbs ran Bells wheels off which left us without his services another time when it mattered most.
You going to say with a straight face that Jibbs doesn’t have a history of this now dipshit???
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For the umpteenth time - your initial post was that "players keep quitting on Tomlin". You've now spent the last 2 days talking about RB load management in week 11 of the 2014 season.
Christ, you are dense.
And don't even pretend to care about "personal attacks". I've seen some of the crap you've posted here.
With that, I am bowing out.
Christ, you are dense.
And don't even pretend to care about "personal attacks". I've seen some of the crap you've posted here.
With that, I am bowing out.
And I addressed that with cause/effect
We’ve been going round and round with Blount because it’s the the example that directly led to a poor outcome for the team.
Till I found the next example. That being the 2016 season when Jibbs ran the wheels off Bell and AGAIN failed to get his backups involved.
And we are discussing because we just traded away a player brought in to be a key backup. So all similarly related in one way or another.
And yes, do bow out so I don’t have to keep making points you can’t counter.
It’s not like anything I’m saying here is false.
You wanna focus on that tiny lil sliver of a comment about “players keep quitting on Jibbs” and be “right” because it’s only a small amount over 15 years fine. Whatever.
That doesn’t make any of the other shit I’ve been saying which you’ve been arguing as wrong. Because it isn’t. And you know it.
We’ve been going round and round with Blount because it’s the the example that directly led to a poor outcome for the team.
Till I found the next example. That being the 2016 season when Jibbs ran the wheels off Bell and AGAIN failed to get his backups involved.
And we are discussing because we just traded away a player brought in to be a key backup. So all similarly related in one way or another.
And yes, do bow out so I don’t have to keep making points you can’t counter.
It’s not like anything I’m saying here is false.
You wanna focus on that tiny lil sliver of a comment about “players keep quitting on Jibbs” and be “right” because it’s only a small amount over 15 years fine. Whatever.
That doesn’t make any of the other shit I’ve been saying which you’ve been arguing as wrong. Because it isn’t. And you know it.
I’m never the first to sling mud. I simply sling it back once we are in the puddle.And don't even pretend to care about "personal attacks". I've seen some of the crap you've posted here.
Hey! Pens are playing the fucking flyers tonight.
Arguing with idiots is like playing chess with a pigeon. No matter how good you are, the pigeon is going to shit on the board and strut around like it won anyway.
"I think we all think we're better than we actually are." -Butler on Ingram.
Nothing left to do but smile, smile, smile...
1. He is our coach, our guy, and I happen to be a fan of the team he coaches. I may not be happy with some of the results (95, you pointed out the biggest issues), nor with many of the decisions, but bottom line he is my head coach. I don't embrace everyone this way, it is not blind loyalty. Mike Nixon and Bill Austin were idiots from jump and remained idiots throughout their short tenures. But in my book at least, Coach Tomlin has earned enough to be a guy I will support. Sure, even Coach Noll made some controversial decisions at times that we may not agree with, but man, just because of this I'm not prepared to run these men out of town on a rail. They have done too many good things.Jobu wrote: ↑Thu Nov 04, 2021 3:36 pm1- Pom Pom waiving fanboysK_C_ wrote: ↑Thu Nov 04, 2021 3:01 pmWhy do people still defend Tomlin?Roeth2Rudolph wrote: ↑Thu Nov 04, 2021 2:56 pmHilarious that people still defend Tomlin... Gee, I wonder why they do that???
2- black and gold shades wearing optimists that think the “Steelers Way” is a real thing
3- those that understand that A2 is never firing him and think if they wish hard enough, Tomlin might become good at what he does.
That’s all I got…
All that said, I have expressed my view that Mike has likely reached his expiration date. Despite feeling that way, I pull for him and of course all of my guys, the Pittsburgh Steelers, because they are in my blood and I am a fan. I pull for Mike to succeed because that means the team will succeed and that is what we all want, right? We are on the rise, baby!! Let's go!!
Oh, snap.
"Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities."
--Voltaire
--Voltaire
Reading the quote in context, which is followed by several refinements + clarifications, it seems like Butler took a more unfortunate turn of phrase, and quickly realized what he said would raise some eyebrows.
I'm sure Ingram has Dec 26th circled regardless.
