Steelers vs Texans Preseason 1 Game Comments & Complaints

[Stosh-67]

Would kicking the extra point have made it a 7 point game?

[Stosh-67]

Probably want another look at OL blocking?

[stillthere]

Will never understand that choice to go for two there.

Analytics something

Just situational. I assume.

[Orangesteel]

I’d take Case Keenum over Justin Fields no doubt

[Orangesteel]

Great defense on 3rd and 16

[.Kodiak]

I’d take Case Keenum over Justin Fields no doubt

Are you telling me that if I go back to the beginning of this game thread, that people weren't giving Fields a gold jacket on his first possession?

I wasn't here. I'm just wondering if it's worth the laugh to read earlier.

[Orangesteel]

Kai’mi Fairbairn!

[franco32]

Nice to see Rush and Trice in there but not sure why they are getting Walmart greeter time.

[Orangesteel]

So many goddamn penalties. Team is sloppy AF.

Aka Mike Tomlin football

[franco32]

So many goddamn penalties. Team is sloppy AF.

Aka Mike Tomlin football

The sad part is I've been reading how these new assistant coaches are tougher. But this is just as sloppy as Canada.

[Texas Black & Gold]

Will never understand that choice to go for two there.

Analytics something

I agree. The center needs more practice. Should have kicked.

[Texas Black & Gold]

Would kicking the extra point have made it a 7 point game?

Yes. But 8 is more adversity.

[drmalba]

Gentlemen..all I can say is, good to see some Steeler football.

I saw two things I hadn't seen in many seasons...
1) multiple receivers attacking the middle of the field.
2) a competently called - and executed - screen.

I'm not feeling too ambitious for preseason game one. I'm going to maintain hope.

[chippedhamsandwich]

Of course the Steelers take all 3 timeouts into halftime

And all 3 are gone at the end of the game when they need to score and get a 2 point conversion to tie…..

[stillthere]

Well, that was awful.

[Orangesteel]

I’m am concerned about the overall talent of this team.

[Mick]

Russell wilson planning to hold onto the starting job by letting justin fields show us what he has to offer as much as possible.

[drmalba]

Pretty hilarious to get beat by Quenton Cephus and British Brooks.

[SteelerDayTrader]

Russell wilson planning to hold onto the starting job by letting justin fields show us what he has to offer as much as possible.

[Stillchest]

I’m am concerned about the overall talent of this team.

Just like most preseasons as of late, they're totally overhyped and overrated by the national football pundits and much of the simpleton fan base.

[steelmann58]

Watkins will be an easy cut and Troy getting hurt caps this night off

[bradshaw2ben]

Will never understand that choice to go for two there.

Analytics something

I think it was a desire to not go to overtime in the preseason. They’ve done the same before. But the missed PAT goofed up their plans.

[zeke5123]

Will never understand that choice to go for two there.

Analytics something

I think it was a desire to not go to overtime in the preseason. They’ve done the same before. But the missed PAT goofed up their plans.

All other things equal, the math probably holds up.

If there is a fifty percent chance of converting a 2 pt, then half the time you cut it a 6 point lead meaning another TD almost certainly gives you the lead.

Of course, there is also a fifty percent chance you don’t get the two pointer. But if you score another TD you have another fifty percent chance to get a two pointer.

So the matrix is (assuming the other side doesn’t score) half of the time you end up up 1 point, a quarter of the time you end up down a point and a quarter of a time you end up tied.

Compare this with going for 1 and you end up tied 100% of the time (for this math let’s ignore missed PATs).

If you end up tied, assume there is a fifty percent chance of winning in OT.

This implies (again assuming the other team doesn’t score) that going for two gives you a 67.5% chance of winning (conditional on getting a second TD) v the 50% chance of going for traditional PAT.

[K_C_]

Watkins will be an easy cut and Troy getting hurt caps this night off

I can't wait to find out how bad Fautanu's knee injury is.

[Jtf]

Watkins will be an easy cut and Troy getting hurt caps this night off

I can't wait to find out how bad Fautanu's knee injury is.

Sprain. Maybe two weeks out

[Jtf]

https://steelersdepot.com/2024/08/fowle ... cl-sprain/
Holy shit I guessed right.

I have to say we are one of the luckiest and healthiest teams In regard to injuries the last 3 or 4 years.
Compared to other teams if you look up starters lost
We lose less starters compared to others.
Amazing. Too bad we can’t do better than 9-8 or 10-7 with all this luck. I honestly think we stay healthier because Tomlin runs full contact most days in camp. Even ravens linebacker that just came over was suprised by that

[steelmann58]

I thought 54-66 played well on the OL and 57 on the DL.

[bradshaw2ben]

Will never understand that choice to go for two there.

Analytics something

I think it was a desire to not go to overtime in the preseason. They’ve done the same before. But the missed PAT goofed up their plans.

All other things equal, the math probably holds up.

If there is a fifty percent chance of converting a 2 pt, then half the time you cut it a 6 point lead meaning another TD almost certainly gives you the lead.

Of course, there is also a fifty percent chance you don’t get the two pointer. But if you score another TD you have another fifty percent chance to get a two pointer.

So the matrix is (assuming the other side doesn’t score) half of the time you end up up 1 point, a quarter of the time you end up down a point and a quarter of a time you end up tied.

Compare this with going for 1 and you end up tied 100% of the time (for this math let’s ignore missed PATs).

If you end up tied, assume there is a fifty percent chance of winning in OT.

This implies (again assuming the other team doesn’t score) that going for two gives you a 67.5% chance of winning (conditional on getting a second TD) v the 50% chance of going for traditional PAT.

There's zero percent chance they are making PAT decisions in the preseason based on analytics/data. I think they're mainly trying to get situational work and make sure everyone gets out uninjured.

[bradshaw2ben]

I thought 54-66 played well on the OL and 57 on the DL.

I thought so, also. You just never know from preseason. Adams has flashed like this before, only to have major issues in the regular season.

To me, the biggest takeaways from the game were:
1. Payton Wilson is not quite Shazier fast but when he reads it right and triggers, he's fast as hell. He also looks healthy but I just wait for the other shoe to drop, like it usually does for oft-injured players (Cory Trice, for example).
2. The rather mixed results from the Steelers offense are something I think we ought to get used to. They're learning a new offense, they have a braintrust who loves to run in obvious run situations and throw lots of safe passes, they don't have RBs with breakaway speed so drives will be long even if successful, and Dan Moore will be the starting LT. There will be stops and starts and frustrations. We probably can't develop a real opinion until the bye.
3. they pretty much ran 2 or 3 pass plays over and over and they did it vs remarkably vanilla coverage shells, so hard to read too much into it.

But, hey, one week in the books and no serious injuries so far. I keep thinking the injuries have to start catching up to the Steelers––as others have mentioned, they've been remarkably healthy compared to most NFL teams (especially their division).

[zeke5123]

I think it was a desire to not go to overtime in the preseason. They’ve done the same before. But the missed PAT goofed up their plans.

All other things equal, the math probably holds up.

If there is a fifty percent chance of converting a 2 pt, then half the time you cut it a 6 point lead meaning another TD almost certainly gives you the lead.

Of course, there is also a fifty percent chance you don’t get the two pointer. But if you score another TD you have another fifty percent chance to get a two pointer.

So the matrix is (assuming the other side doesn’t score) half of the time you end up up 1 point, a quarter of the time you end up down a point and a quarter of a time you end up tied.

Compare this with going for 1 and you end up tied 100% of the time (for this math let’s ignore missed PATs).

If you end up tied, assume there is a fifty percent chance of winning in OT.

This implies (again assuming the other team doesn’t score) that going for two gives you a 67.5% chance of winning (conditional on getting a second TD) v the 50% chance of going for traditional PAT.

There's zero percent chance they are making PAT decisions in the preseason based on analytics/data. I think they're mainly trying to get situational work and make sure everyone gets out uninjured.

You are almost certainly correct. But I was explaining why it was arguably the right call from a “let’s just win the game” perspective.

And maybe Tomlin should work on game situation management during the pre season.