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Re: James Harrison visiting with patriots

Post by Stosh-67 » Tue Dec 26, 2017 8:51 pm

955876 wrote:
VASteelerGuy wrote:Say what you want, he'll give away everything he can about the Steelers organization to remind them how stupid this decision was. Sorry, I don't see him as the last guy on the roster that could have been cut. We're going to regret this.



According to Tomlin article on the matter Harrison was least important player on roster. Everyone else more important. I’d be fine with the decision if I also agreed with our coach. But I don’t.

McCullers plays even less and also doesn’t play teams. He likely won’t even be back next season so what is the loss there?

Harrison was nice insurance. McCullers is nothing more than a wasted spot. Especially if you consider he wasn’t even first or second man up in event of an injury along the dline.

Harrison was.

Tomlin shown before he isn’t very good at contingency planning.

His experience alone was worth hanging onto him as the games gets bigger. We do have two talented but inconsistent first rounders at his position. If I’m a coach I want a guy like Harrison around to be in their ears. One tip could make a difference. Hey T.J., the tackle has been doing this all game. Try this...

Not getting that from Big Dan.


This Harrison move was not about performance.
It became a Tomlin vs. Harrison issue.
It was brewing all season.

It was not about giving a helmet to the best possible 53.
There was not a person on this site that saw this cut coming.
I do not care how much bullshit will come out of anyones mouth if they said he would be the one that would be cut with Gilbert coming back.

Dan McCuellers is basically a third string NT on a team that uses a NT on 20-25-30 snaps a game.
A team that uses more and more 2 down linemen.
He would need to see 2 defensive linemen, specifically JH and Walton go down with injuries in order to get any meaningful snaps.
And even then, the PS probably go with Alualu at NT and promote another D linemen from practice squad.

Anybody signing Dan Mc. if he was cut.
Anbody really gonna sign him and plug and play him.
Oh crap, Dan Mc is going to Baltimore, KC or NE and help stop our run game if we play them..............
Dan Mc is back on the practice squad ....when there is an open space on the practice squad.

And if Watt or Dupree go down......
How is the depth there as opposed to depth at NT?

SOCALSTEEL:
He doesn’t need to cover.
Belichick will use him as he is supposed to be used at this point in his career,as a situational pass rusher similar to Dwight Freeney.
He is the DE on a 4 man front.


Thats exactly how James needed to be used. Go get the QB.
Third and long pass situations.
Late game drives with team passing every down.

Back when James closed the KC game with his sack of Smith, we saw James giving Tomlin an earful.
That sack was not just the only play James made in that game. He was abusing the LT that whole quarter and then some.
Setting up moves, getting closer and closer all quarter
Applying pressure and forcing quicker throws.
We saw it coming.

James should have been doing the same thing all year.
12-15-18 snaps a game.
Should have been going after Brady.
Should have been part of a relentless pass rush rotation with Watt, Dupree and even Chick.

And after his game sealing sack of Smith, we saw James giving Tomlin an earful.
I think that James was not even getting a helmet up to that point?
He was pretty pissed at his play time.
Letting Tomlin know....
"You do not take a helmet away from me".

Tomlin tried to play it off, put his arm around James.
James was having none of it.

There is nothing anyone can really say that makes any sense....if they think James was not one of our 53 best players for the next 5 games of 2017.
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Post by K_C_ » Tue Dec 26, 2017 8:58 pm

Stosh gets it.

This has NOTHING to do with Harrison being "done". He isn't.

Especially compared to some of the turds who regularly get a hat on game day, Harrison isn't done.

This is Tomlin asserting some kind of bullshit power over Harrison.

Stosh is 100% on the money.
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Post by Stosh-67 » Tue Dec 26, 2017 9:01 pm

KC wrote:Stosh gets it.

This has NOTHING to do with Harrison being "done". He isn't.

Especially compared to some of the turds who regularly get a hat on game day, Harrison isn't done.

This is Tomlin asserting some kind of bullshit power over Harrison.

Stosh is 100% on the money.


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Post by FortyThree » Tue Dec 26, 2017 9:03 pm

Stosh-67 wrote:
955876 wrote:
VASteelerGuy wrote:Say what you want, he'll give away everything he can about the Steelers organization to remind them how stupid this decision was. Sorry, I don't see him as the last guy on the roster that could have been cut. We're going to regret this.



According to Tomlin article on the matter Harrison was least important player on roster. Everyone else more important. I’d be fine with the decision if I also agreed with our coach. But I don’t.

McCullers plays even less and also doesn’t play teams. He likely won’t even be back next season so what is the loss there?

Harrison was nice insurance. McCullers is nothing more than a wasted spot. Especially if you consider he wasn’t even first or second man up in event of an injury along the dline.

Harrison was.

Tomlin shown before he isn’t very good at contingency planning.

His experience alone was worth hanging onto him as the games gets bigger. We do have two talented but inconsistent first rounders at his position. If I’m a coach I want a guy like Harrison around to be in their ears. One tip could make a difference. Hey T.J., the tackle has been doing this all game. Try this...

Not getting that from Big Dan.


This Harrison move was not about performance.
It became a Tomlin vs. Harrison issue.
It was brewing all season.

It was not about giving a helmet to the best possible 53.
There was not a person on this site that saw this cut coming.
I do not care how much bullshit will come out of anyones mouth if they said he would be the one that would be cut with Gilbert coming back.

Dan McCuellers is basically a third string NT on a team that uses a NT on 20-25-30 snaps a game.
A team that uses more and more 2 down linemen.
He would need to see 2 defensive linemen, specifically JH and Walton go down with injuries in order to get any meaningful snaps.
And even then, the PS probably go with Alualu at NT and promote another D linemen from practice squad.

Anybody signing Dan Mc. if he was cut.
Anbody really gonna sign him and plug and play him.
Oh crap, Dan Mc is going to Baltimore, KC or NE and help stop our run game if we play them..............
Dan Mc is back on the practice squad ....when there is an open space on the practice squad.

And if Watt or Dupree go down......
How is the depth there as opposed to depth at NT?

SOCALSTEEL:
He doesn’t need to cover.
Belichick will use him as he is supposed to be used at this point in his career,as a situational pass rusher similar to Dwight Freeney.
He is the DE on a 4 man front.


Thats exactly how James needed to be used. Go get the QB.
Third and long pass situations.
Late game drives with team passing every down.

Back when James closed the KC game with his sack of Smith, we saw James giving Tomlin an earful.
That sack was not just the only play James made in that game. He was abusing the LT that whole quarter and then some.
Setting up moves, getting closer and closer all quarter
Applying pressure and forcing quicker throws.
We saw it coming.

James should have been doing the same thing all year.
12-15-18 snaps a game.
Should have been going after Brady.
Should have been part of a relentless pass rush rotation with Watt, Dupree and even Chick.

And after his game sealing sack of Smith, we saw James giving Tomlin an earful.
I think that James was not even getting a helmet up to that point?
He was pretty pissed at his play time.
Letting Tomlin know....
"You do not take a helmet away from me".

Tomlin tried to play it off, put his arm around James.
James was having none of it.

There is nothing anyone can really say that makes any sense....if they think James was not one of our 53 best players for the next 5 games of 2017.


This could all be true, but acting like this is somehow the worst thing to ever happen and guaranteed to cost the Steelers in the future is stupid.

The team won 11 games without any contribution from Harrison. 12 if you count the New England game.

Cutting him isn't suddenly going to kill their chances.

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Post by Baltostiller » Tue Dec 26, 2017 9:04 pm

Per ESPN Twitter.

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Post by Legacy User » Tue Dec 26, 2017 9:06 pm

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Do you think Harrison’s knowledge of our defensive formations and our offense could assist NE in beating us once again?

Asking for a friend.

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Post by COR-TEN » Tue Dec 26, 2017 9:07 pm

Miter Saw wrote:
COR-TEN wrote:Betraying the team that gave him everything.


Including his latest pink slip.

You wouldn't try to find a job elsewhere if you were fired by your long term employer?
He's set for life. So are his kids. He doesn't "need" a job. He was going to retire.

This is about his ego. Period.

I don't disagree that he had something to offer, but the steelers coaching staff decided otherwise. For whatever reason.

If he signs with a rival, it's about saying fuck you over a short term decision, ignoring what that long term employer gave you. But I forgot that loyalty means shit in today's culture. It's all about me, me, me.

He signed up for a year, knowing what playing in the NFL means. Sometimes that means sitting on the bench. He's not a coach or owner. It's not up to him to decide if he plays or not. Now he's whining that he wasted his time. If he didn't think that was going to happen, then too fucking bad. Don't sign for another year coming out of retirement.
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Post by Stosh-67 » Tue Dec 26, 2017 9:09 pm

But...But.....
he is done.....
BB can't really know more than some of our talent evaluators....
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Post by Legacy User » Tue Dec 26, 2017 9:10 pm

Christ I hope KC or Balt takes out NE

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Post by StillerInCT » Tue Dec 26, 2017 9:10 pm

Adam Schefter
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‪Former Steelers' LB James Harrison is signing with the New England Patriots, per @FieldYates.‬

‪Could lead to potential matchup of Harrison vs. Steelers in postseason.‬
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Post by jeemie » Tue Dec 26, 2017 9:10 pm

Oh my God if the Steelers don't beat the Pats and/or make it to the Super Bowl, this place is going to become unbearable.
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Post by Steel Mike » Tue Dec 26, 2017 9:11 pm

Well fuck him now
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Post by Legacy User » Tue Dec 26, 2017 9:11 pm

I assume Tombert considered this could happen?
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Post by jeemie » Tue Dec 26, 2017 9:12 pm

BarryFoster wrote:Christ I hope KC or Balt takes out NE


Right- because the one thing that was going to make it impossible for us to beat the Pats was James Harrison.

:roll: :roll:
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Post by the-other-burg » Tue Dec 26, 2017 9:12 pm

StillerInCT wrote:
Adam Schefter
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‪Former Steelers' LB James Harrison is signing with the New England Patriots, per @FieldYates.‬

‪Could lead to potential matchup of Harrison vs. Steelers in postseason.‬


Lol. Our leadership is so goddam stupid.

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Post by Baltostiller » Tue Dec 26, 2017 9:12 pm

May have jumped the gun. Field Yates twitter states Sources say they are expected to sign him.

https://twitter.com/FieldYates/status/9 ... 5284258816

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Post by Jobu » Tue Dec 26, 2017 9:13 pm

BarryFoster wrote:I assume Tombert considered this could happen?

I’d assume they didn’t care that this happened.
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Post by Stosh-67 » Tue Dec 26, 2017 9:13 pm

Cutting him isn't suddenly going to kill their chances.


Cutting him does not suddenly kill their chance.
Correct.
But it does not help their chances. At all.
And that the bottom line.
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Post by Legacy User » Tue Dec 26, 2017 9:13 pm

Jeemie wrote:
BarryFoster wrote:Christ I hope KC or Balt takes out NE


Right- because the one thing that was going to make it impossible for us to beat the Pats was James Harrison.

:roll: :roll:


I didn’t say that. I don’t want to see Harrison on the Pats, in NE, in a Pats uniform shaking hands w his ex-teammates after yet another loss to New England.

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Post by Legacy User » Tue Dec 26, 2017 9:14 pm

Jobus Rum wrote:
BarryFoster wrote:I assume Tombert considered this could happen?

I’d assume they didn’t care that this happened.


Apparently

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Post by the-other-burg » Tue Dec 26, 2017 9:15 pm

fortythree wrote:
the-other-burg wrote:If we play NE in the AFCCG, and Harrison steps on the field, he will have an impact. Even if he doesnt step on the field, he will have provided enough intel to the NE braintrust. They know how to use information to their advantage. A team in the hunt for the SB shouldn't let this happen.


What information can James give them that they don't already have the ability to learn through film study?


You're right. Our coaches are so strategically inept that there’s nothing that can't be learned by watching tape.

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Post by tunch » Tue Dec 26, 2017 9:15 pm

Citing this team's win total is idiotic when those last second FGs could have gone either way.

At any point in this season have I thought this squad is a well-oiled machine ready for the trophy? If it happened, I don't remember.

What I have seen is the most talented roster in the NFL not meeting its potential and repeatedly failing to put games away. Great teams put games away.

This year's win total is as lucky as it is good.

I don't care if Harrison has been an asshole. He's James Harrison. He's ended dozens of games for this team over the years. I've never seen a defensive player so often come up big when it mattered.

He deserved a Dwight Freeney role. He deserved a chance to play himself out of a job but that wasn't gonna happen - at least not this season.

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Post by StillerInCT » Tue Dec 26, 2017 9:18 pm

Well there's always next year I guess. Who should we target in the draft?
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Post by the-other-burg » Tue Dec 26, 2017 9:19 pm

The minute he was released, this was set Into motion. I really hope Tomlin had the foresight to expect this, and didnt just have an “oh shit” moment.

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Post by ToddHaleysNineIron » Tue Dec 26, 2017 9:19 pm

He's more valuable to them off the field than on the field.

The patriots know they need some inside intel... Harrison is the guy to give it.
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Post by Legacy User » Tue Dec 26, 2017 9:20 pm

StillerInCT wrote:Well there's always next year I guess. Who should we target in the draft?


I will take the bait

Depends on Shaz, but assuming his playing days are over...

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Punter round 2
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Post by StillerInCT » Tue Dec 26, 2017 9:20 pm

ToddHaleysNineIron wrote:He's more valuable to them off the field than on the field.

The patriots know they need some inside intel... Harrison is the guy to give it.


LOL I have all the intel they need. Throw to Gronk
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Post by Stosh-67 » Tue Dec 26, 2017 9:21 pm

BB owns Tomlin.

Even if he does not play a snap.

How do I attack Villy.
See him in practice everyday for the last few years.
What is it that does not show up on film.......that we do not know.
What are the weak points of the Steelers OL.
What were some of the things they talked about that slowed down the Pats last week.

What are some of the things they were gonna do....but held back.
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Post by Legacy User » Tue Dec 26, 2017 9:21 pm

StillerInCT wrote:
ToddHaleysNineIron wrote:He's more valuable to them off the field than on the field.

The patriots know they need some inside intel... Harrison is the guy to give it.


LOL I have all the intel they need. Throw to Gronk


Wonder if Butler will change his defense on that idiot if we get a rematch?

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Post by Legacy User » Tue Dec 26, 2017 9:22 pm

Stosh-67 wrote:BB owns Tomlin.

Even if he does not play a snap.

How do I attack Villy.
See him in practice everyday for the last few years.
What is it that does not show up on film.......that we do not know.
What are the weak points of the Steelers OL.
What were some of the things they talked about that slowed down the Pats last week.

What are some of the things they were gonna do....but held back.


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