Steelers Roster shape
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Re: Steelers Roster shape
I am also in the belief that Cain can be a deep threat on the outside for the steelers
I think some analysts are lazy and mailed it in with Claypool.
I did see one person do a substantial breakdown of Chase and it was by Chris Simms. That video link is here:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bwDs5MrSCv8
It is 24 minutes long so if you don't have the time I will summarize it for you. Simms shows how Chase is actually a really good route runner, getting better. He shows instances of Claypool fooling CBs, getting their hips turned. He shows Chase tip toeing along the sidelines making difficult catches, showing great body control. He shows examples of Claypool using that length and reach and those damn strong hands in snatching the ball up and away from the CB time and time again. Simms shows the physicality and how Chase new when to power through tacklers and how he had a number of plays where he looked like Vance McDonald powering over and through people in 2018.
I also loved the one breakdown of Simms showing Claypool as a gunner running down the field on a punt and making a tackle on Donavan Peoples Jones at the 2 yard line. This was not some lumbering, straight line athlete who has a poor change of direction. No, he was able to run full speed down the field and then slow up and break down and make the tackle. That to me, his ability as a gunner, offers evidence that he has more upside and untapped potential as a WR. I don't need a 3 cone time or claims that he is a limited straight line athlete, I have watched enough of him as a gunner to think that is all bullshit.
Also, I think his height and length lulls you to sleep when people claim he does not run that fast as his 40 times suggests. First off, the guy is huge and he covers a huge amount of ground with that extended gait. It is deceptive, he doesn't look like he is running fast and we don't see too many 6'4" 240 WRs running that fast, it has this odd effect.
I admit to being meh with the pick at first, thought maybe this was another Jackson the 3rd/Artie Burns situation. Like they really wanted Pittman but settled for Claypool. And maybe that is true, but maybe Claypool turns out to be a good player in his own right. Colbert has a really good track record overall in drafting WRs, it has to be one of the best in the NFL. Top 5? Top 3? It isn't like, outside of Burress, that Colbert has had the luxury of picking a WR in the top 10 picks. No, he has found his WRs at the end of round 1, in round 2, 3 and 4 and of course that notable one in round 6. And even an undrafted free agent like a Nate Washington, played 11 years in the NFL, had over 450 catches.
I trust Colbert on WRs.
In terms of comparisons forget the lazy Calvin Johnson one, I like the WR that Simms brought up, Brandon Marshall.
Brandon Marshall, 6 time Pro Bowler, over 12,000 yards receiving, 970 catches. He was 6'5" 230.
Pull up the highlights of Brandon and tell me you don't see a more apt comparison of what Chase Claypool could be as an NFL WR.
So, allow me to put on my draft nik cap and make an official comparison for Claypool and what his ceiling and floor are as a WR.
Chase has a ceiling of being a poor man's Brandon Marshall and a floor of being a souped up Ed McCaffery.
One of the things that is odd to me are those that say well, Calvin Johnson, that type of freakish, big tall fast WR is rare and don't get too excited about what Chase can be, he can never be Megatron.
To which I say, well, Brandon Marshall was a tall 6'5" WR, Vincent Jackson was a tall 6'5" WR, both over 230 pounds. Mike Evans is another 6'5" 230 pound WR. Our very own Plaxico Burress was yet another 6'5" 230 pound WR.
Huh? It would seem that these 6'5" 230 pound WRs are not as rare as you would believe. Why can't Chase Claypool be some version of those 4 WRs that I just listed?? Why not?
And I would argue that the NFL has way more WRs that are these 6'5" freaks, but that they are being disguised as TEs, if you get my meaning.
I did see one person do a substantial breakdown of Chase and it was by Chris Simms. That video link is here:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bwDs5MrSCv8
It is 24 minutes long so if you don't have the time I will summarize it for you. Simms shows how Chase is actually a really good route runner, getting better. He shows instances of Claypool fooling CBs, getting their hips turned. He shows Chase tip toeing along the sidelines making difficult catches, showing great body control. He shows examples of Claypool using that length and reach and those damn strong hands in snatching the ball up and away from the CB time and time again. Simms shows the physicality and how Chase new when to power through tacklers and how he had a number of plays where he looked like Vance McDonald powering over and through people in 2018.
I also loved the one breakdown of Simms showing Claypool as a gunner running down the field on a punt and making a tackle on Donavan Peoples Jones at the 2 yard line. This was not some lumbering, straight line athlete who has a poor change of direction. No, he was able to run full speed down the field and then slow up and break down and make the tackle. That to me, his ability as a gunner, offers evidence that he has more upside and untapped potential as a WR. I don't need a 3 cone time or claims that he is a limited straight line athlete, I have watched enough of him as a gunner to think that is all bullshit.
Also, I think his height and length lulls you to sleep when people claim he does not run that fast as his 40 times suggests. First off, the guy is huge and he covers a huge amount of ground with that extended gait. It is deceptive, he doesn't look like he is running fast and we don't see too many 6'4" 240 WRs running that fast, it has this odd effect.
I admit to being meh with the pick at first, thought maybe this was another Jackson the 3rd/Artie Burns situation. Like they really wanted Pittman but settled for Claypool. And maybe that is true, but maybe Claypool turns out to be a good player in his own right. Colbert has a really good track record overall in drafting WRs, it has to be one of the best in the NFL. Top 5? Top 3? It isn't like, outside of Burress, that Colbert has had the luxury of picking a WR in the top 10 picks. No, he has found his WRs at the end of round 1, in round 2, 3 and 4 and of course that notable one in round 6. And even an undrafted free agent like a Nate Washington, played 11 years in the NFL, had over 450 catches.
I trust Colbert on WRs.
In terms of comparisons forget the lazy Calvin Johnson one, I like the WR that Simms brought up, Brandon Marshall.
Brandon Marshall, 6 time Pro Bowler, over 12,000 yards receiving, 970 catches. He was 6'5" 230.
Pull up the highlights of Brandon and tell me you don't see a more apt comparison of what Chase Claypool could be as an NFL WR.
So, allow me to put on my draft nik cap and make an official comparison for Claypool and what his ceiling and floor are as a WR.
Chase has a ceiling of being a poor man's Brandon Marshall and a floor of being a souped up Ed McCaffery.
One of the things that is odd to me are those that say well, Calvin Johnson, that type of freakish, big tall fast WR is rare and don't get too excited about what Chase can be, he can never be Megatron.
To which I say, well, Brandon Marshall was a tall 6'5" WR, Vincent Jackson was a tall 6'5" WR, both over 230 pounds. Mike Evans is another 6'5" 230 pound WR. Our very own Plaxico Burress was yet another 6'5" 230 pound WR.
Huh? It would seem that these 6'5" 230 pound WRs are not as rare as you would believe. Why can't Chase Claypool be some version of those 4 WRs that I just listed?? Why not?
And I would argue that the NFL has way more WRs that are these 6'5" freaks, but that they are being disguised as TEs, if you get my meaning.
