Fuck you Zach Frazier

[RemoAZ]

You dumb shit kicking fuck

Fuck you Low Watt you useless fuck

Fuck you Patrick Queen

3-1 but it feels like 1-3

“It was my fault,” Fields told reporters via the team website. “We were going the first leg kick. Then Zach was IDing stuff. I felt the DBs rotating and changing the back end pictures. So when he was IDing stuff, telling the o-line where to go, I was just trying to get that final picture before the snap came.
“At the end of the day it’s on the first leg kick. So after I kicked my leg up, I gotta be ready for the ball no matter when it’s gonna come or not. So yeah, it’s on me.”

Ben used to take the blame for his o-linemen whenever they fucked up.

That's what Fields is doing and I'm shocked this needs to be explained.

The guard (I believe it was McCormick) was looking back, waiting for Fields to be ready.

The leg kick was the signal but McCormick has to tap Frazier before the ball is snapped.

McCormick was about to tap Frazier but the ball was already gone.

This is on Frazier all the way but I love how Fields is covering for his guy. Especially falling on the sword for a rookie.

That's a leader.

Did you watch the video I posted? He explained in detail what happened. I don't think this guy will be anything more than Lamar Jackson-lite but I still like him and appreciate his professionalism and approach to the game. He's intelligent too. Here's his whole presser including the comments about the snap as his first question if you haven't seen it. It's a good listen:
https://twitter.com/steelers/status/1840496511378932065

[Steeldrama]

You dumb shit kicking fuck

Fuck you Low Watt you useless fuck

Fuck you Patrick Queen

3-1 but it feels like 1-3

“It was my fault,” Fields told reporters via the team website. “We were going the first leg kick. Then Zach was IDing stuff. I felt the DBs rotating and changing the back end pictures. So when he was IDing stuff, telling the o-line where to go, I was just trying to get that final picture before the snap came.
“At the end of the day it’s on the first leg kick. So after I kicked my leg up, I gotta be ready for the ball no matter when it’s gonna come or not. So yeah, it’s on me.”

I'm shocked this needs to be explained.

Most posters here are pretty knowledgeable

It’s just a select few know nothings

You’d be better off explaining Lite Brite to a 3 year old

[Ice]

I tend to think the D that had been giving up under 9 points a game giving up 27 and the offense that had been playing mostly error free in the turnover department giving up some big ones affected the outcome more than anything else globally, as did coming out completely flat on the road (again) and some pretty shit scripted plays (shouldn't these be the easy ones? How come ours never seem to be?), but Frazier's/Fields' snap gaffe definitely came at the worst possible time. Plenty of blame to go around.

On to Dallas.

[tbsteel]

McCormick did tap Frazier.

https://x.com/i/status/1840529800433459434

I mean, I'm just purely speculating here, but McCormick taps Frazier while Frazier is still making his reads/calls. Fields looks like he was initially expecting the snap after his leg kick, saw Frazier making his reads, and then thought he had additional time to scan the field when Frazier then snaps it.

As these things go, it's not a total black or white thing. Probably a share of blame between two rookie OL and the QB.

[Jobu]

…as did coming out completely flat on the road…

I think it might be time to stop complaining about the Steelers starting games “flat”, and start acknowledging that this is exactly how they are being coached to play.

[K_C_]

McCormick did tap Frazier.

https://x.com/i/status/1840529800433459434

I mean, I'm just purely speculating here, but McCormick taps Frazier while Frazier is still making his reads/calls. Fields looks like he was initially expecting the snap after his leg kick, saw Frazier making his reads, and then thought he had additional time to scan the field when Frazier then snaps it.

As these things go, it's not a total black or white thing. Probably a share of blame between two rookie OL and the QB.

I just watched the clip you showed and there is a leg kick.....McCormick is looking back and the ball is snapped.

I do NOT see him tap Frazier and that's probably because McCormick sees that Fields isn't looking for the ball yet. He's not looking for the ball.

[Ice]

…as did coming out completely flat on the road…

I think it might be time to stop complaining about the Steelers starting games “flat”, and start acknowledging that this is exactly how they are being coached to play.

Considering, on offense, that those first few drives are the scripted, practiced plays, on offense, you're not wrong, but the defense? That's just inexcusable.

[SteelerDayTrader]

You dumb shit kicking fuck

Fuck you Low Watt you useless fuck

Fuck you Patrick Queen

3-1 but it feels like 1-3

“It was my fault,” Fields told reporters via the team website. “We were going the first leg kick. Then Zach was IDing stuff. I felt the DBs rotating and changing the back end pictures. So when he was IDing stuff, telling the o-line where to go, I was just trying to get that final picture before the snap came.
“At the end of the day it’s on the first leg kick. So after I kicked my leg up, I gotta be ready for the ball no matter when it’s gonna come or not. So yeah, it’s on me.”

Ben used to take the blame for his o-linemen whenever they fucked up.

That's what Fields is doing and I'm shocked this needs to be explained.

The guard (I believe it was McCormick) was looking back, waiting for Fields to be ready.

The leg kick was the signal but McCormick has to tap Frazier before the ball is snapped.

McCormick was about to tap Frazier but the ball was already gone.

This is on Frazier all the way but I love how Fields is covering for his guy. Especially falling on the sword for a rookie.

That's a leader.

Exactly

[LakecrestSteeler]

“It was my fault,” Fields told reporters via the team website. “We were going the first leg kick. Then Zach was IDing stuff. I felt the DBs rotating and changing the back end pictures. So when he was IDing stuff, telling the o-line where to go, I was just trying to get that final picture before the snap came.
“At the end of the day it’s on the first leg kick. So after I kicked my leg up, I gotta be ready for the ball no matter when it’s gonna come or not. So yeah, it’s on me.”

I'm shocked this needs to be explained.

Most posters here are pretty knowledgeable

It’s just a select few know nothings

You’d be better off explaining Lite Brite to a 3 year old

Pretty obnoxious post for someone that is wrong. Anderson did tap him once for one leg kick!

https://x.com/Steelersdepot/status/1840529800433459434

[LakecrestSteeler]

McCormick did tap Frazier.

https://x.com/i/status/1840529800433459434

I mean, I'm just purely speculating here, but McCormick taps Frazier while Frazier is still making his reads/calls. Fields looks like he was initially expecting the snap after his leg kick, saw Frazier making his reads, and then thought he had additional time to scan the field when Frazier then snaps it.

As these things go, it's not a total black or white thing. Probably a share of blame between two rookie OL and the QB.

I just watched the clip you showed and there is a leg kick.....McCormick is looking back and the ball is snapped.

I do NOT see him tap Frazier and that's probably because McCormick sees that Fields isn't looking for the ball yet. He's not looking for the ball.

That is why you have to couple it with what Fields says.

He may be taking the blame as a leader, but it may have been Anderson that fucked up all along. Still need the All22 to be certain. But if Fields did do one leg kick, and it was on one leg kick, then it is Field’s fault.

[Jobu]

…as did coming out completely flat on the road…

I think it might be time to stop complaining about the Steelers starting games “flat”, and start acknowledging that this is exactly how they are being coached to play.

Considering, on offense, that those first few drives are the scripted, practiced plays, on offense, you're not wrong, but the defense? That's just inexcusable.

The defense looks like they always do against an offense that actually attacks them, instead of ones that are satisfied getting into a shoving match.
This defense is every bit as predictable as the offense, but it has a few guys that are able to make plays at opportune times. When an offense is able to neutralize those guys, we get what we get today.

[K_C_]

McCormick did tap Frazier.

https://x.com/i/status/1840529800433459434

I mean, I'm just purely speculating here, but McCormick taps Frazier while Frazier is still making his reads/calls. Fields looks like he was initially expecting the snap after his leg kick, saw Frazier making his reads, and then thought he had additional time to scan the field when Frazier then snaps it.

As these things go, it's not a total black or white thing. Probably a share of blame between two rookie OL and the QB.

I just watched the clip you showed and there is a leg kick.....McCormick is looking back and the ball is snapped.

I do NOT see him tap Frazier and that's probably because McCormick sees that Fields isn't looking for the ball yet. He's not looking for the ball.

That is why you have to couple it with what Fields says.

He may be taking the blame as a leader, but it may have been Anderson that fucked up all along. Still need the All22 to be certain.

Yep, I definitely need to see the All22.

Because normally a guard, during a silent count, is looking back waiting for the QB to be ready.

THEN they turn and look at exactly who they're going to block and the tap comes after.

Why would Anderson still be looking back at Fields when the ball is snapped? Does he want to get run the fuck over?

It doesn't make any sense. I believe he was still waiting for Fields to be focused and waiting for the ball before turning and facing the defense and tapping Frazier.

[LakecrestSteeler]

And there is still this…….Was anyone else disappointed that Fields didn’t cleanly scoop and make a play or flip it forward out of bounds?

That bothered me and surprised me. I thought with his speed he would scoop with one hand and actually get out of bounds. He was a pedestrian athlete on the play!

Just was waiting to be pleasantly surprised on that play and gush over his athleticism!

I get it is an oblong ball and all that, but this type of stuff doesn’t happen to elite athletes.

Just a bit disappointed. But there are still throws and runs that I am impressed with.

[LakecrestSteeler]

I just watched the clip you showed and there is a leg kick.....McCormick is looking back and the ball is snapped.

I do NOT see him tap Frazier and that's probably because McCormick sees that Fields isn't looking for the ball yet. He's not looking for the ball.

That is why you have to couple it with what Fields says.

He may be taking the blame as a leader, but it may have been Anderson that fucked up all along. Still need the All22 to be certain.

Yep, I definitely need to see the All22.

Because normally a guard, during a silent count, is looking back waiting for the QB to be ready.

THEN they turn and look at exactly who they're going to block and the tap comes after.

Why would Anderson still be looking back at Fields when the ball is snapped? Does he want to get run the fuck over?

It doesn't make any sense. I believe he was still waiting for Fields to be focused and waiting for the ball before turning and facing the defense and tapping Frazier.

I bet it was on one, Anderson thought it was on 2. Fields sees Anderson looking back and thinks he must not have kicked and has more time to dissect the D and then boom.

[K_C_]

And there is still this…….Was anyone else disappointed that Fields didn’t cleanly scoop and make a play or flip it forward out of bounds?

That bothered me and surprised me. I thought with his speed he would scoop with one hand and actually get out of bounds. He was a pedestrian athlete on the play!

Just was waiting to be pleasantly surprised on that play and gush over his athleticism!

I get it is an oblong ball and all that, but this type of stuff doesn’t happen to elite athletes.

Just a bit disappointed. But there are still throws and runs that I am impressed with.

Fields was lucky as fuck to come up with that bouncing ball.

He wasn't going to risk going Garo Yepremian and REALLY destroying the Steelers chances.

Dude was just happy to get control of the ball.

[Jobu]

And there is still this…….Was anyone else disappointed that Fields didn’t cleanly scoop and make a play or flip it forward out of bounds?

That bothered me and surprised me. I thought with his speed he would scoop with one hand and actually get out of bounds. He was a pedestrian athlete on the play!

Just was waiting to be pleasantly surprised on that play and gush over his athleticism!

I get it is an oblong ball and all that, but this type of stuff doesn’t happen to elite athletes.

Just a bit disappointed. But there are still throws and runs that I am impressed with.

I was just relieved that he recovered it.
I think you’re expecting way too much.

[SteelerDayTrader]

I just watched the clip you showed and there is a leg kick.....McCormick is looking back and the ball is snapped.

I do NOT see him tap Frazier and that's probably because McCormick sees that Fields isn't looking for the ball yet. He's not looking for the ball.

That is why you have to couple it with what Fields says.

He may be taking the blame as a leader, but it may have been Anderson that fucked up all along. Still need the All22 to be certain.

Yep, I definitely need to see the All22.

Because normally a guard, during a silent count, is looking back waiting for the QB to be ready.

THEN they turn and look at exactly who they're going to block and the tap comes after.

Why would Anderson still be looking back at Fields when the ball is snapped? Does he want to get run the fuck over?

It doesn't make any sense. I believe he was still waiting for Fields to be focused and waiting for the ball before turning and facing the defense and tapping Frazier.

This

[Steeldrama]

I'm shocked this needs to be explained.

Most posters here are pretty knowledgeable

It’s just a select few know nothings

You’d be better off explaining Lite Brite to a 3 year old

Pretty obnoxious post for someone that is wrong. Anderson did tap him once for one leg kick!

https://x.com/Steelersdepot/status/1840529800433459434

My obnoxious (factual) post wasnt necessarily about the botched snap just general football related topics but thanks for proving my point, Paint By Numbers

[LakecrestSteeler]

Most posters here are pretty knowledgeable

It’s just a select few know nothings

You’d be better off explaining Lite Brite to a 3 year old

Pretty obnoxious post for someone that is wrong. Anderson did tap him once for one leg kick!

https://x.com/Steelersdepot/status/1840529800433459434

My obnoxious (factual) post wasnt necessarily about the botched snap just general football related topics but thanks for proving my point, Paint By Numbers

It is not factual.

[AirRescueFF]

https://x.com/C_AdamskiTrib/status/1840 ... snap-colts

[W&M_Steeler]

https://x.com/C_AdamskiTrib/status/1840 ... snap-colts

It's frustrating that the botched snap has become the story of the game. It lets too many people off the hook. The real discussion should be why the defense sucked all game and why the offense could only manage to score 3 points in the first half against one of the worst defenses in the NFL. Instead, we're watching the play like the Zapruder film and trying to assign blame.

[swissvale72]

KC

I’m not debating Frazier made a mistake

I’m just saying his mistake is not the reason we lost

The D didn’t play and we lost the turnover battle

Its a team game

Like the Buckner blame for the BoSox loss against the Mets. They had a 20 run lead and gave it all up in a half inning and Buckner gets all the blame.

Not to mention the Sox had Game 7 which they had a 3-0 lead late in the game. Buckner's mistake was Game 6.

And....people forget that Mets had tied the game prior to the Buckner error...rich gedmans passed ball

[Thrillsseeker]

https://x.com/C_AdamskiTrib/status/1840 ... snap-colts

It's frustrating that the botched snap has become the story of the game. It lets too many people off the hook. The real discussion should be why the defense sucked all game and why the offense could only manage to score 3 points in the first half against one of the worst defenses in the NFL. Instead, we're watching the play like the Zapruder film and trying to assign blame.

This.

Fraudlin should be slaughtered by the media. His ill prepared team against a shit team of this caliber and they got manhandled for one of the most embarrassing 1st half of football. Then players talking about lack of focus all week. Mediocre Mike is not as good as the masses think. Anyone that follows this team like most here gets that. Unfortunately the media and all do what they do. How far this franchise has fallen into mediocrity is just sad.

[bradshaw2ben]

I think it might be time to stop complaining about the Steelers starting games “flat”, and start acknowledging that this is exactly how they are being coached to play.

Considering, on offense, that those first few drives are the scripted, practiced plays, on offense, you're not wrong, but the defense? That's just inexcusable.

The defense looks like they always do against an offense that actually attacks them, instead of ones that are satisfied getting into a shoving match.
This defense is every bit as predictable as the offense, but it has a few guys that are able to make plays at opportune times. When an offense is able to neutralize those guys, we get what we get today.

This times a lot

[Boukman]

https://x.com/C_AdamskiTrib/status/1840 ... snap-colts

It's frustrating that the botched snap has become the story of the game. It lets too many people off the hook. The real discussion should be why the defense sucked all game and why the offense could only manage to score 3 points in the first half against one of the worst defenses in the NFL. Instead, we're watching the play like the Zapruder film and trying to assign blame.

Yes. Reasons for this loss in order:

1. Lax coaching for glacial in-game adjustments on both offense and defense and to not have these basic C/QB snap issues fixed by now is ridiculous when it was happening since preseason. I don’t see other teams with this snap problem being so persistent.
1a. Very Poor defense: Couldn’t initially stop the run. Poor tackling. So many 3rd and long passes given up. No pass rush most of the game.
2. Sputtering, uncoordinated offense to start the game. Oline was a sieve and the run game sucked.
4. Terrible fumble by Pickens especially and Fields late just being socareless and loose with the ball.

Despite all this (and some bad calls) the chance to tie or win was still there but that last failed drive was just emblematic of so many things that need urgent attention. I loved how Fields fought and led the team back. This was a major team choke across the board.

[955876]

I think it might be time to stop complaining about the Steelers starting games “flat”, and start acknowledging that this is exactly how they are being coached to play.

Considering, on offense, that those first few drives are the scripted, practiced plays, on offense, you're not wrong, but the defense? That's just inexcusable.

The defense looks like they always do against an offense that actually attacks them, instead of ones that are satisfied getting into a shoving match.
This defense is every bit as predictable as the offense, but it has a few guys that are able to make plays at opportune times. When an offense is able to neutralize those guys, we get what we get today.

Yep. This D has been a one trick pony for years.

We all know what Jibbs record is when Watt doesn’t play. What’s his record when Watt doesn’t get a sack?

[955876]

Then players talking about lack of focus all week.

Same story, different year. No team rest on their flimsy regular season accomplishments more than this one.

Can set your watch to this defense playing like shit as soon as they start getting lil hype.

Nevermind the fact they’ve played a QB who hadn’t stepped on a football field in a year, a QB making his 2nd ever start, and a QB gimping on one leg.

A halfway good offense is going to look at this D and say as long as we stop their outside backers this D has holes all over it.

And that happened today.

[steelmann58]

So Pickens screwing up near the gosling gets a pass

[Jobu]

So Pickens screwing up near the gosling gets a pass

The Ryan Gosling?
(Sorry, you teed that one up…couldn’t help myself)

[steelmann58]

Yes terrible typing but that good one.