Sammie Coates

[FC]

Bryant has elite play making ability.

He can take a slant 90 yards to the house
He can go get it over 2 and score from anywhere on the field
He understands the passing game.


Coates is very football raw...Unpolished. He played in the Delaware wing T at Auburn.(Malzahn added shotgun looks). He was asked to run go routes and block...That is a strength of his game. He is a better DHB.

Coates will improve because I believe Coates is willing to work.

Coates can play a major role in this offense.

[bradshaw2ben]

Coates will never be the route runner Wheaton or AB is-- he's much bigger and wins differently. He's a very effective player though. He has size Wheaton can only dream of.

I think questions of Coates work ethic are silly. He seems to be a hard worker and willing to do dirty, non-diva stuff. That's pretty good, in my book.

[steelmann58]

I think Coates and Jzmes have really step up in this second week.

[Stallworth16]

Coates will never be the route runner Wheaton or AB is-- he's much bigger and wins differently. He's a very effective player though. He has size Wheaton can only dream of.

I think questions of Coates work ethic are silly. He seems to be a hard worker and willing to do dirty, non-diva stuff. That's pretty good, in my book.

I agree Coates works hard. AB sets the example for all the Recievers. I believe Coates route running will improve a lot, like it has for Wheaton and Bryant. With a technician like AB to teach, Coates is bound to get better with experience. He's played only 6 or 7 games in his career, Coates has upside.

[bradshaw2ben]

Coates will never be the route runner Wheaton or AB is-- he's much bigger and wins differently. He's a very effective player though. He has size Wheaton can only dream of.

I think questions of Coates work ethic are silly. He seems to be a hard worker and willing to do dirty, non-diva stuff. That's pretty good, in my book.

I agree Coates works hard. AB sets the example for all the Recievers. I believe Coates route running will improve a lot, like it has for Wheaton and Bryant. With a technician like AB to teach, Coates is bound to get better with experience. He's played only 6 or 7 games in his career, Coates has upside.

I'll be surprised if he ever changes directions even as well as a Kelvin Benjamin but even this year compared to last, he's running stops and comebacks better. He beats the jam better than any receiver we have, even AB I think.

[Havoc]

Coates can play a major role in this offense.

He can. And he has too with the Bryant loss.

I'm looking at Coates and his (hopeful) development as one of the keys to our season.

The last 3 games that mattered Coates has contributed.

[Minkah'n History]

Still gotta work on his hands and also fighting for the ball.

The 44-yarder nearly went through his hands and I thought he could have fought a little to break up the one INT.

But so far I like what I see.

Agree on the pick. Picked up the ball very late.

[Nick79]

Interesting on last weeks post game radio Charlie Batch said if Coates has a big year Bryant will never put on a Steeler uniform again.
He said the plan when they drafted Coates was to replace Bryant due to all his problems.

That would be dumb as fuck. Bryant has the raw talent and size to be the best receiver in the league. He is a deep threat. He is a RZ mismatch. He can take a slant 70 yards to the house. I like Coates. He doesn't have the talent of Bryant. Also, given Bryant's ... issues... he will come cheaply. If -- and I recognize it is a big if -- Bryant stays off the drugs, Steelers could get a Number 1 WR for the price of a second rate third receiver. Gamble well worth it IMO.

Bryant likes weed. NFL doesn't.

Gamble well worth it IMO

[FC]

I would be willing to bet no player in the NFL has more knockdown blocks than Sammie Coates after 2 games

[Legacy User]

I would be willing to bet no player in the NFL has more knockdown blocks than Sammie Coates after 2 games

I can guarantee Coates has more than DD

[FC]

Decastro was excellent week 1...9.5 on a scale of 1-10
Decastro was a 4 on that same scale week 2.

Steelers need a bounce back game from the Oline

[Old School Steeler]

Bryant likes weed. NFL doesn't.

Gamble well worth it IMO[/quote]


NFL Players like weed. Keep hearing 50%
http://nypost.com/2016/09/18/i-played-s ... e-kickoff/

[Ice]

Decastro was excellent week 1...9.5 on a scale of 1-10
Decastro was a 4 on that same scale week 2.

Steelers need a bounce back game from the Oline

I think, as some folks above have mentioned, that Geno Atkins is a LOT better than anything the Redskins had to throw at the Steelers IOL. We looked better against him than we have in the past, and that was with a field that wasn't helping anyone drop the anchor.

[DP39]

Bryant likes weed. NFL doesn't.

Gamble well worth it IMO

NFL Players like weed. Keep hearing 50%
http://nypost.com/2016/09/18/i-played-s ... e-kickoff/[/quote]

Wouldn't surprise me if the NFL uses weed testing as a major bargaining chip in the next CBA negotiations.

[Legacy User]

Good Lord, for all the abuse they put their bodies through, if some can use it for any modicum of relief, let them have it. Opiates are so horrible on the liver that any little bit less that a person can take to deal with pain, the better. Plus, they are one of the most addictive substances out there. I wonder how many ballplayer are still addicted to them long after they stop playing the game.

I say this as a pot addict nearly 5 years sober. It's not for me but it's not my prerogative or the government's or anyone else's to determine what's right or wrong for someone else.

[Orangesteel]

Good Lord, for all the abuse they put their bodies through, if some can use it for any modicum of relief, let them have it. Opiates are so horrible on the liver that any little bit less that a person can take to deal with pain, the better. Plus, they are one of the most addictive substances out there. I wonder how many ballplayer are still addicted to them long after they stop playing the game.

I say this as a pot addict nearly 5 years sober. It's not for me but it's not my prerogative or the government's or anyone else's to determine what's right or wrong for someone else.

Amen Jack. The NFL is going to have to adapt to reality at some point.

[Legacy User]

I would be willing to bet no player in the NFL has more knockdown blocks than Sammie Coates after 2 games

I can guarantee Coates has more than DD

nice trolling

[oldsteelerfan]

Coates gives up on plays. If Sammie thinks he is covered then play over. The first deep ball that Ben threw to him Sammie stopped running his route then saw the ball in the air. Sammie had an "oh shit! reaction and raced for the pass. The pass fell incomplete.

He'll figure it out. Shaky hands make me more nervous, but he also had a play where he saw Ben in trouble, cut off his route and went deep for a nice 40+ gainer.

He's still a playmaker, something that Wheaton hasn't been.

Coates comes along, and Jesse James is looking like a baller....with Bell back this offense will be just as dangerous as we hoped. They played bad today, Ben threw the ball worse than I've seen in 2+ years (for half a game, anyway)....and still put up 24 against a tough division rival and top-10 defense.

This

[steelclan]

On current pace Coates would be close to 1100 yards and yet here we are in yet another thread that wants to whine about him. FFS people he is a 3rd round draft pick that has made big plays in first two weeks pivotal to both wins. Yes he can get better but the need to beat on that drum instead of realizing PS may well have unearthed yet another WR gem? Is frankly fucking lame.

[Quixotic]

To summarize:

1. Coats is not Bryant.
2. Coats is not bad.
3. Bryant is Bryant, which is both…
A. really-really good, and
B. pretty bad

That about sum it up?

[Obviously]

4 Catches, 38.7 YARDS PER CATCH. 155 yards.

Not bad Sammie...Ability to get separation, Catches the deep ball. Shows a real willingness as a Blocker.

Filling in nicely for Martavis Bryant, so far.

Would love to see his YPC > 40 but that's decent I guess

Maybe if his wrist circumference was bigger?

[Obviously]

I would be willing to bet no player in the NFL has more knockdown blocks than Sammie Coates after 2 games

I can guarantee Coates has more than DD

nice trolling

[Ice]

To summarize:

1. Coats is not Bryant.
2. Coats is not bad.
3. Bryant is Bryant, which is both…
A. really-really good, and
B. pretty bad

That about sum it up?

Yes, in fact, it does.

[Legacy User]

Apparently Coates was going to be benched by coaches in the Bengals game for running effeminate routes (giving up on plays) and not fighting sufficiently for the ball. Ben intervened and soon after connected on the big bomb.

When Wheaton returns, expect that Coates' snaps are going way down.

[Orangesteel]

Apparently Coates was going to be benched by coaches in the Bengals game for running effeminate routes (giving up on plays) and not fighting sufficiently for the ball. Ben intervened and soon after connected on the big bomb.

When Wheaton returns, expect that Coates' snaps are going way down.

Yeah that is totally unacceptable. Ben is one of the best deep passers in the league and rarely underthrows. The young guy needs to learn you never stop on a BR deep ball.

[bradshaw2ben]

Apparently Coates was going to be benched by coaches in the Bengals game for running effeminate routes (giving up on plays) and not fighting sufficiently for the ball. Ben intervened and soon after connected on the big bomb.

When Wheaton returns, expect that Coates' snaps are going way down.

13 targets, 7 catches, 164 yds Coates first year ish
13 targets, 6 catches, 64 yds Wheaton's first year ish

I'm not sure what they will do, Lit. According to Wheaton, he actually was a healthy scratch last week. I would like to see them use all of the players they have. I don't really care to see DHB catching a possession pass on 3rd and short and I don't really care to see Wheaton on a fly pattern on the outside. I don't want Rogers on the outside and don't really care to see Coates running a lot of complicated COD patterns.

As long as they maximize the talent of each, I can see all getting snaps and all having success.

[Ice]

I feel like if Ben can advocate for Coates on the sidelines during a game, and he goes back in, and comes through shortly after, why would that equal him losing more snaps than he otherwise would have with Wheaton back?

I'll tell you what, DWill and next game, Juice will be advocating Sammie, that's for sure. Blocking like that is where the big gainers downfield are born.

[bradshaw2ben]

Yeah-- you win a lot of friends when you are a WR who blocks well.

I love me some Deangelo Williams but, man, is it exciting to think about adding back Le'veon Bell to this group!

Adding Wheaton, Bell, and maybe Green, then having to figure out how to use all the weapons-- these are good problems to have.

[Legacy User]

I feel like if Ben can advocate for Coates on the sidelines during a game, and he goes back in, and comes through shortly after, why would that equal him losing more snaps than he otherwise would have with Wheaton back?

I'll tell you what, DWill and next game, Juice will be advocating Sammie, that's for sure. Blocking like that is where the big gainers downfield are born.

If Ben has to advocate you are not doing your job.

Wheaton know what he is doing. I presume coaches have vetitis.

[bradshaw2ben]

I think they will show their vet-itis by starting Wheaton in the slot and exiling Eli Rogers to limited snaps... if they show it at all.

there may be plenty of occasions where they play AB-Wheaton-Rogers but I have a hard time believing that provides the same protection for AB that AB-Wheaton-Coates or AB-Rogers-Coates or AB-Wheaton-DHB does. The former doesn't threaten the free safety in the same way.