James Harrison mega merged bed wetting thread.

[Legacy User]

Gonna be hilarious when James is either not signed or he is signed, and gets on the field and looks like shit.

Here's FortyThree trying to cover all his bases.

Fuckin' pussy.

Hey 43 will it also be hiliarious if he beats AV like a drum or for a key sack in the AFCCG?

[Legacy User]

I guess Tomlin came to the conclusion that with the catch controversy fading he needed to cause some more drama for the team. Since...they apparently....welcome it.

[W&M_Steeler]

I guess Tomlin came to the conclusion that with the catch controversy fading he needed to cause some more drama for the team. Since...they apparently....welcome it.

If Tomlin had been the head coach of the 2005 Steelers, he would have cut Bettis in week 16 to make a roster spot available for the 2005 equivalent of Fitzgerald Touissant or Dan McCullers.

[Legacy User]

I guess Tomlin came to the conclusion that with the catch controversy fading he needed to cause some more drama for the team. Since...they apparently....welcome it.

If Tomlin had been the head coach of the 2005 Steelers, he would have cut Bettis in week 16 to make a roster spot available for the 2005 equivalent of Fitzgerald Touissant or Dan McCullers.

Doubt that.

Harrison likely more done than Bettis was.

Tomlin let James walk once before...and James didn't do much in Cincy.

Keeping McCullers over James though...

[K_C_]

I guess Tomlin came to the conclusion that with the catch controversy fading he needed to cause some more drama for the team. Since...they apparently....welcome it.

If Tomlin had been the head coach of the 2005 Steelers, he would have cut Bettis in week 16 to make a roster spot available for the 2005 equivalent of Fitzgerald Touissant or Dan McCullers.

Doubt that.

Harrison likely more done than Bettis was.

Tomlin let James walk once before...and James didn't do much in Cincy.

Keeping McCullers over James though...

James went to the Bungles last time.

He didn't go and play for the Hoodie.

[Legacy User]

True.

But Lewis is no defensive slouch.

I still believe, perhaps stupidly, that if the Steelers go into Foxborough w/ a healthy Vance and Haden and the rest that they are going to cut the heart out of that team and fans.

[jeemie]

Mike Mitchell
Mike Mitchell
@iammikemitchell
My twitter fingers itching. Might have to let a couple rounds of truth off here in a few.

I'll be surprised if that "truth" is Pro-Bug Eyed Fuck.

Actually he said he didn't give a fuck.

[Legacy User]

I don't care what the Steelers' record is this year. If this backfires- i.e., if Harrison is a decisive factor in the Steelers losing the AFCC game to the Patriots- then whoever made the call to cut Harrison should be fired.

If Harrison is a decisive factor if we play the Pats we have bigger issues that need to be fixed.

[Obviously]

Who here thinks Tomlin and Butler dial up different defensive looks for Brady and co. between now and the upcoming playoff game with NE? Because now Belichick will have the Steelers' defensive playbook once James gives it to him. Not like they need it.

[jeemie]

This reminds me of Pats' fans reactions when Belichick released Lawyer Milloy, and then promptly got spanked 31-0 by Buffalo in the season opener, after the Bills had picked up Milloy.

[K_C_]

Mike Mitchell
Mike Mitchell
@iammikemitchell
My twitter fingers itching. Might have to let a couple rounds of truth off here in a few.

I'll be surprised if that "truth" is Pro-Bug Eyed Fuck.

Actually he said he didn't give a fuck.

Interesting. I wonder if that's the view of most current Steelers.

[K_C_]

I agree with some of the Pats fans' views that Harrison will be strictly a situational pass rusher and, as they so eloquently put it, the Pats have big leads so often, Harrison could be a very big factor down the stretch.

We'll see.

[jeemie]

Interesting. I wonder if that's the view of most current Steelers.

If I had to guess, I'd guess yes.

Haven't we yet learned the folly of assuming that if WE'RE feeling something, the team must be?

We had people all week claiming the loss to New England was a gut punch that was going to send the team into an emotional death spiral.

Now we've got people assuming because we're pissed James Harrison has been released, that the players are too.

I love James Harrison...one of my all-time favorite Steelers.

But in his limited action this season, outside those couple of good plays against the Chiefs, he didn't look better than any of our starters. Defense against the run? When he was in there, he didn't look any better than anyone else defending the run or setting the edge.

It's not this huge looming disaster. It just isn't. You're letting the past color your perception of the present.

We may lose to New England in the playoffs. If James Harrison is the reason, as another poster said, we've got more serious problems.

I seriously doubt James Harrison will be the reason we lose to the Pats.

[swissvale72]

This reminds me of Pats' fans reactions when Belichick released Lawyer Milloy, and then promptly got spanked 31-0 by Buffalo in the season opener, after the Bills had picked up Milloy.

Reminds me more of Marion Hossa leaving Penguins to sign with the Red Wings, saying that move game him the best shot to win a Stanley Cup, then had to eat shit going through the handshake line when Pens won the Cup.

[swissvale72]

Mike Mitchell
Mike Mitchell
@iammikemitchell
My twitter fingers itching. Might have to let a couple rounds of truth off here in a few.

I'll be surprised if that "truth" is Pro-Bug Eyed Fuck.

I don't know, KC..."truth" might be more that James Harrison had become a giant pain in the ass.

[jeemie]

This reminds me of Pats' fans reactions when Belichick released Lawyer Milloy, and then promptly got spanked 31-0 by Buffalo in the season opener, after the Bills had picked up Milloy.

Reminds me more of Marion Hossa leaving Penguins to sign with the Red Wings, saying that move game him the best shot to win a Stanley Cup, then had to eat shit going through the handshake line when Pens won the Cup.

There's that one, too.

[K_C_]

Mike Mitchell
Mike Mitchell
@iammikemitchell
My twitter fingers itching. Might have to let a couple rounds of truth off here in a few.

I'll be surprised if that "truth" is Pro-Bug Eyed Fuck.

I don't know, KC..."truth" might be more that James Harrison had become a giant pain in the ass.

As well he should. The Steelers brought him back, GOD KNOWS he worked his ass off to get in the best possible physical condition and Tomlin decides to put him on ice all year.

Why bring a fucking guy like James Harrison back at all if you're never going to activate him?

This has me concerned. Harrison might be near 40, but he has VERY fresh legs and he's motivated. Very, very motivated.

[Legacy User]

Deebo is done folks. Let him go.

I guess we'll see.

Just don't buy a guy that chased down Alex Smith weeks ago for a game saving sack is all of the sudden "done".

Who announced that Harrison is done. He nearly sacked Smith on the play prior to that. Harrison's career has been all about proving doubters wrong. He would dominate Villanueva in a matchup. AV is not a bender and he has forearms like Marcus Mariota. We don't want to see that.

[Stillerz Bar]

This reminds me of Pats' fans reactions when Belichick released Lawyer Milloy, and then promptly got spanked 31-0 by Buffalo in the season opener, after the Bills had picked up Milloy.

Reminds me more of Marion Hossa leaving Penguins to sign with the Red Wings, saying that move game him the best shot to win a Stanley Cup, then had to eat shit going through the handshake line when Pens won the Cup.

There's that one, too.

James is one of my all time favorite Steelers but I would still love to see this situation turn out like the Hossa one - we get beat by the Red Wings o Hossa goes the Detroit to get the cup and ends up watching Pit carry off the cup. I would love to have James watch the "other team" carry off the Lamar Hunt trophy (and hopefully Lombardi) for the 2nd year in a row after playing on the wrong side of the same two teams in back to back years.

[Legacy User]

We had people all week claiming the loss to New England was a gut punch that was going to send the team into an emotional death spiral.

......

It's not this huge looming disaster. It just isn't.

......

I seriously doubt James Harrison will be the reason we lose to the Pats.

Disagree on 1st point. Many also said they liked where the team's collective head was at, citing the cam Heyward and Ben postgame interviews. Not a fan of overgeneralizations. Though many did say what you alluded to.

Agree on the rest. But it doesn't mean it was a good move. Is the team better now? Or the day before Harrison was cut?

Watt went in the blue tent, and I was a bit nervous. Zero depth at LB. No, Harrison may not have been a savior at this point in case of injury to Dupree or Watt....but enough to hold the fort down.

I also don't see how he couldn't have continued value as a situational pass-rusher, or for relief.

The only thing I can possibly see as a positive, is if he was a giant distraction. But Ben was so surprised by the move, I can't seem to think that was the case.

[K_C_]

Interesting. I wonder if that's the view of most current Steelers.

If I had to guess, I'd guess yes.

Haven't we yet learned the folly of assuming that if WE'RE feeling something, the team must be?

We had people all week claiming the loss to New England was a gut punch that was going to send the team into an emotional death spiral.

Now we've got people assuming because we're pissed James Harrison has been released, that the players are too.

I love James Harrison...one of my all-time favorite Steelers.

But in his limited action this season, outside those couple of good plays against the Chiefs, he didn't look better than any of our starters. Defense against the run? When he was in there, he didn't look any better than anyone else defending the run or setting the edge.

It's not this huge looming disaster. It just isn't. You're letting the past color your perception of the present.

We may lose to New England in the playoffs. If James Harrison is the reason, as another poster said, we've got more serious problems.

I seriously doubt James Harrison will be the reason we lose to the Pats.

Actually, I'm looking at things very realistically. Our depth at linebacker is horrible (both ILB and OLB).

Harrison has fresh legs. He couldn't possibly be in better physical condition. It simply isn't possible.

The Pats aren't asking Harrison to make plays for 16 games. They'll be asking him to situationally get after the QB. With New England's offensive firepower, Harrison's skills at getting after the QB could damn fucking well be a difference maker.

They'll ask a fresh-legged Harrison to play situationally for 3 games.

You may not think he can do that. I ain't betting against that specimen and sorry, I don't believe Anthony Chickillo or Arthur Moats is a better option.

[SOCALSTEEL]

Interesting. I wonder if that's the view of most current Steelers.

If I had to guess, I'd guess yes.

Haven't we yet learned the folly of assuming that if WE'RE feeling something, the team must be?

We had people all week claiming the loss to New England was a gut punch that was going to send the team into an emotional death spiral.

Now we've got people assuming because we're pissed James Harrison has been released, that the players are too.

I love James Harrison...one of my all-time favorite Steelers.

But in his limited action this season, outside those couple of good plays against the Chiefs, he didn't look better than any of our starters. Defense against the run? When he was in there, he didn't look any better than anyone else defending the run or setting the edge.

It's not this huge looming disaster. It just isn't. You're letting the past color your perception of the present.

We may lose to New England in the playoffs. If James Harrison is the reason, as another poster said, we've got more serious problems.

I seriously doubt James Harrison will be the reason we lose to the Pats.

Jeems I totally agree that it’s not a huge disaster.It definitely could matter though.
Would you agree that the Pats are better with Harrison and the Steelers are worse without him?
Why give a team that basically owns you any other advantage?
Now what happens if Watt or Dupree get injured?
Now you have Sean Spence and Anthony Chickillo starting games in the playoffs

The Patriots front 7 blows but they just got some help.How much help he will give them is debatable but it’s help the Steelers gifted them.

[Obviously]

This reminds me of Pats' fans reactions when Belichick released Lawyer Milloy, and then promptly got spanked 31-0 by Buffalo in the season opener, after the Bills had picked up Milloy.

2003.

[K_C_]

https://twitter.com/LedyardNFLDraft/status/945766993608761345

[Pabst]

Jeems I totally agree that it’s not a huge disaster.It definitely could matter though.
Would you agree that the Pats are better with Harrison and the Steelers are worse without him?
Why give a team that basically owns you any other advantage?
Now what happens if Watt or Dupree get injured?
Now you have Sean Spence and Anthony Chickillo starting games in the playoffs

Looking at this another way:
- How bad is the Patriots LB depth that they need to sign a 39 y/o who has barely played this year?
- Why the automatic assumption that James will click in the Pats system?
- Watt was injured earlier this year - Chickillo played over Harrison. Why is the mindset of this board "Tomlin is a moron who has an agenda so he won't play JH" as opposed to "Harrison is old/broken down and can't even beat out Anthony Chickillo"
- Harrison has never, in his 14 years in the league, played ILB. Why is our ILB depth even being brought into this discussion?

I keep seeing people fear that Harrison will give BB some sort of insider knowledge. Is there any documented evidence of this ever happening? I'm being serious - can someone find an example of a team signing a player and later admitting that gave them a leg up on the competition?

[SOCALSTEEL]

Interesting. I wonder if that's the view of most current Steelers.

If I had to guess, I'd guess yes.

Haven't we yet learned the folly of assuming that if WE'RE feeling something, the team must be?

We had people all week claiming the loss to New England was a gut punch that was going to send the team into an emotional death spiral.

Now we've got people assuming because we're pissed James Harrison has been released, that the players are too.

I love James Harrison...one of my all-time favorite Steelers.

But in his limited action this season, outside those couple of good plays against the Chiefs, he didn't look better than any of our starters. Defense against the run? When he was in there, he didn't look any better than anyone else defending the run or setting the edge.

It's not this huge looming disaster. It just isn't. You're letting the past color your perception of the present.

We may lose to New England in the playoffs. If James Harrison is the reason, as another poster said, we've got more serious problems.

I seriously doubt James Harrison will be the reason we lose to the Pats.

Jeems I totally agree that it’s not a huge disaster.It definitely could matter though.
Would you agree that the Pats are better with Harrison and the Steelers are worse without him?
Why give a team that basically owns you any other advantage?
Now what happens if Watt or Dupree get injured?
Now you have Sean Spence and Anthony Chickillo starting games in the playoffs

The Patriots front 7 blows but they just got some help.How much help he will give them is debatable but it’s help the Steelers gifted them.

[K_C_]

Jeems I totally agree that it’s not a huge disaster.It definitely could matter though.
Would you agree that the Pats are better with Harrison and the Steelers are worse without him?
Why give a team that basically owns you any other advantage?
Now what happens if Watt or Dupree get injured?
Now you have Sean Spence and Anthony Chickillo starting games in the playoffs

Looking at this another way:
- How bad is the Patriots LB depth that they need to sign a 39 y/o who has barely played this year?
- Why the automatic assumption that James will click in the Pats system?
- Watt was injured earlier this year - Chickillo played over Harrison. Why is the mindset of this board "Tomlin is a moron who has an agenda so he won't play JH" as opposed to "Harrison is old/broken down and can't even beat out Anthony Chickillo"
- Harrison has never, in his 14 years in the league, played ILB. Why is our ILB depth even being brought into this discussion?

I keep seeing people fear that Harrison will give BB some sort of insider knowledge. Is there any documented evidence of this ever happening? I'm being serious - can someone find an example of a team signing a player and later admitting that gave them a leg up on the competition?

Bill Belichick didn't seem to think Harrison was broken down.

Has it ever occurred to you that Harrison's ability to play might not have been much of a factor in Tomlin cutting him?

[Pabst]

Bill Belichick didn't seem to think Harrison was broken down.

Has it ever occurred to you that Harrison's ability to play might not have been much of a factor in Tomlin cutting him?

Sure. Has it occurred to you that with Kyle Van Noy being injured the Pats have absolutely nothing in terms of an edge rush so they are taking a shot on Harrison? There's no down side to this for the Patriots - maybe this is less "Belichick is a genius that see's what Tomlin can't see" and more "We need help, let's try this guy".

[jeemie]

Jeems I totally agree that it’s not a huge disaster.It definitely could matter though.
Would you agree that the Pats are better with Harrison and the Steelers are worse without him?
Why give a team that basically owns you any other advantage?
Now what happens if Watt or Dupree get injured?
Now you have Sean Spence and Anthony Chickillo starting games in the playoffs

Looking at this another way:
- How bad is the Patriots LB depth that they need to sign a 39 y/o who has barely played this year?
- Why the automatic assumption that James will click in the Pats system?
- Watt was injured earlier this year - Chickillo played over Harrison. Why is the mindset of this board "Tomlin is a moron who has an agenda so he won't play JH" as opposed to "Harrison is old/broken down and can't even beat out Anthony Chickillo"
- Harrison has never, in his 14 years in the league, played ILB. Why is our ILB depth even being brought into this discussion?

I keep seeing people fear that Harrison will give BB some sort of insider knowledge. Is there any documented evidence of this ever happening? I'm being serious - can someone find an example of a team signing a player and later admitting that gave them a leg up on the competition?

Bill Belichick didn't seem to think Harrison was broken down.

Has it ever occurred to you that Harrison's ability to play might not have been much of a factor in Tomlin cutting him?

New England has front seven issues.

Tell me who else is available right now that the Pats could have taken.

Remember the Pats once signed Hank Poteat when we released him.

[K_C_]

Bill Belichick didn't seem to think Harrison was broken down.

Has it ever occurred to you that Harrison's ability to play might not have been much of a factor in Tomlin cutting him?

Sure. Has it occurred to you that with Kyle Van Noy being injured the Pats have absolutely nothing in terms of an edge rush so they are taking a shot on Harrison? There's no down side to this for the Patriots - maybe this is less "Belichick is a genius that see's what Tomlin can't see" and more "We need help, let's try this guy".

I think it's more, as Swissvale said earlier, Tomlin getting rid of a malcontent (or again, as Swiss put it, a "pain in the ass".)

Don't think Tomlin likes Harrison much anymore and I'm 100% the feeling is very mutual.

Harrison might not fit the Steelers defensive scheme under Butler, but no way I'm going to believe, even for a second, that Harrison cannot still be a very big factor rushing the passer.