Tomlin Tuesday Presser Time!

[Legacy User]

One day one of these HC are gonna hire a a coach specifically for clock management and they are gonna be considered innovators of the game. For fuck sakes give a 14yr old madden football player a crack at it for season tickets. Problem solved I bet, major improvement at the least.

[Steelafan77]

And he said "IF" the celebrations become a problem he'll address it and put stop to it, but he wasn't interested in addressing emotional outbursts now. Admitting that instead of being proactive and stopping it before it became a problem weeks ago, he'll let it continue to snowball until it really becomes a major issue.

This is whats alarming. To ignore it as a potential hindrance for the whole team. Unacceptable. Not the Example I would want my younger players influenced by. smh

[Jobu]

One day one of these HC are gonna hire a a coach specifically for clock management and they are gonna be considered innovators of the game. For fuck sakes give a 14yr old madden football player a crack at it for season tickets. Problem solved I bet, major improvement at the least.

Jeemie...prepare your resume!

[Legacy User]

There will be punishment if celebration penalties keep occurring.

That's wishy-washy.

'The next player, and from this point forward all players, to draw a celebration penalty will be sent back to the locker room and deactivated for the following game.'
That's how you deal with this.
I dunno if you can take a game check for this too, but do it if you can.

Yeah, nothing helps a team win like benching guys who are actually scoring.

[Jobu]

And he said "IF" the celebrations become a problem he'll address it and put stop to it, but he wasn't interested in addressing emotional outbursts now. Admitting that instead of being proactive and stopping it before it became a problem weeks ago, he'll let it continue to snowball until it really becomes a major issue.

This is whats alarming. To ignore it as a potential hindrance for the whole team. Unacceptable. Not the Example I would want my younger players influenced by. smh

I was never a Cowher lover...far from it, and I don't get in to the Cowher vs Tomlin debate, because its pretty much useless and meaningless. But in this case I'll make an exception...
Cowher would have ended this shit "yesterday"!!! Guaran-fuckin-teed!!!

[FortyThree]

Uh oh, the Ben hater shows up in every thread when Mikey T is looked down upon.

I'm sure Chicago Steel is on his way over too.

Is everyone who points out mistakes Ben makes a "Ben hater"?

[SteelWIll]

]And he said "IF" the celebrations become a problem he'll address it and put stop to it, but he wasn't interested in addressing emotional outbursts now. Admitting that instead of being proactive and stopping it before it became a problem weeks ago, he'll let it continue to snowball until it really becomes a major issue.


Under Noll, that player would be getting on w/ his life's work the following Monday...Of course, there was Bud Carson and Bad Radakovich roaming the sidelines in those days who would've been up into their players' facemasks..

[Minkah'n History]

Uh oh, the Ben hater shows up in every thread when Mikey T is looked down upon.

I'm sure Chicago Steel is on his way over too.

Is everyone who points out mistakes Ben makes a "Ben hater"?

Nope, when someone goes out of their way to blame him constantly, it's a lot different.

[Legacy User]

Yeah, nothing helps a team win like benching guys who are actually scoring.

Didn't win the game anyway because a bunch of undisciplined prick holes who know how to score, keep taking preventable penalties.
Act like you've made a 1st down before.

Sometimes you need hard lessons and painful discipline to learn. Or we could let the coach keep pooh poohing the problems, and see how things get repaired better.
I'm sure it can spontaneously generate out of unpunished self promotion.

[Steelafan77]

And he said "IF" the celebrations become a problem he'll address it and put stop to it, but he wasn't interested in addressing emotional outbursts now. Admitting that instead of being proactive and stopping it before it became a problem weeks ago, he'll let it continue to snowball until it really becomes a major issue.

This is whats alarming. To ignore it as a potential hindrance for the whole team. Unacceptable. Not the Example I would want my younger players influenced by. smh

I was never a Cowher lover...far from it, and I don't get in to the Cowher vs Tomlin debate, because its pretty much useless and meaningless. But in this case I'll make an exception...
Cowher would have ended this shit "yesterday"!!! Guaran-fuckin-teed!!!

I agree. I believe its labeled as "old school" mentality. I look at it like this. If it ain't broke don't try to fix it. IMO the excessive celebrations have evolved beyond just young exuberance and have become so pretentious that their actually repulsive. Didn't like the icky shuffle hated the Deion high leg lift run into the end zone and I don't appreciate this new crap that's displayed today. Do your job and get back to the huddle/sideline and move on to the next play. JMO

[Legacy User]

I miss Coach Noll.

Act like you've been there before.

Showboating penalties after a TD are borderline understandable.

For a freaking FIRST DOWN- this is ridiculous. Give the official the ball and get back to the huddle, Einstein.

[Legacy User]

]And he said "IF" the celebrations become a problem he'll address it and put stop to it, but he wasn't interested in addressing emotional outbursts now. Admitting that instead of being proactive and stopping it before it became a problem weeks ago, he'll let it continue to snowball until it really becomes a major issue.


Under Noll, that player would be getting on w/ his life's work the following Monday...Of course, there was Bud Carson and Bad Radakovich roaming the sidelines in those days who would've been up into their players' facemasks..

Yeah, remember how disciplined guys like Jack Lambert and Joe Greene were all the time? Never any emotional outbursts from guys on those Noll teams.

[Legacy User]

]And he said "IF" the celebrations become a problem he'll address it and put stop to it, but he wasn't interested in addressing emotional outbursts now. Admitting that instead of being proactive and stopping it before it became a problem weeks ago, he'll let it continue to snowball until it really becomes a major issue.


Under Noll, that player would be getting on w/ his life's work the following Monday...Of course, there was Bud Carson and Bad Radakovich roaming the sidelines in those days who would've been up into their players' facemasks..

Yeah, remember how disciplined guys like Jack Lambert and Joe Greene were all the time? Never any emotional outbursts from guys on those Noll teams.

Not for celebration. Don't recall that ever happening with any Noll player ever.

[Orangesteel]

The fact that he was comfortable with the way the drive unfolded before half and doesn't see why the spike vs calling timeout was ridiculous. He doesn't get it and never will.

Yeah, not like we lost by three or anything...



Does this guy even realize the importance of points? All points? Even a FG before half??? Losing even more confidence...

[BethlehemSteel]

The fact that he was comfortable with the way the drive unfolded before half and doesn't see why the spike vs calling timeout was ridiculous. He doesn't get it and never will.

Yeah, not like we lost by three or anything...



Does this guy even realize the importance of points? All points? Even a FG before half??? Losing even more confidence...

He's in his own social media world, always a problem since day one. More worried about his personna than results.

Jack wagon the game was 3 PTA difference. Wow. Déjan needs a new article.

He's lost

[Legacy User]

The fact that he was comfortable with the way the drive unfolded before half and doesn't see why the spike vs calling timeout was ridiculous. He doesn't get it and never will.

Yeah, not like we lost by three or anything...



Does this guy even realize the importance of points? All points? Even a FG before half??? Losing even more confidence...

He's in his own social media world, always a problem since day one. More worried about his personna than results.

Jack wagon the game was 3 PTA difference. Wow. Déjan needs a new article.

He's lost

Social media world? Tomlin didn't have a Twitter account until the start of training camp last year and he's issued a grand total of 41 tweets since starting his account.

[FortyThree]

I miss Coach Noll.

Act like you've been there before.

Showboating penalties after a TD are borderline understandable.

For a freaking FIRST DOWN- this is ridiculous. Give the official the ball and get back to the huddle, Einstein.

I didn't have a problem with the penalty so much as the rule. It's fucking taunting. Who cares if they taunt people? They're grown men.

Bell got caught up in the moment. It happens. Trash talking an opponent should NEVER be a penalty. Heyward's penalty was worse because he was arguing with an official. But arguing with another player? The fact that they even consider that a penalty is a fucking joke.

[Legacy User]

But they are penalties. Even if they shouldn't be. You hurt your team with those. They need to stop.

Players who don't get in line should miss the bus.

[COR-TEN]

Calling a play that the defense has seen 3-4 times during the game already in a critical situation is beyond stupid. Even if it went for 18 yards and BR has the "option" to pass. Why not keep the defense on their heels, questioning formations they've never seen? I imagine a typical PeyPey or Brady 3-5 step drop crossing pattern for 5 yards. Spread them out, make them guess wrong. They didn't even run one of those the entire game. The Bucs knew it was going to be a run to try to extend the clock. I think Tomlin thought they'd get at least a few yards and the punt would be a 55 yarder. Then the defense, that was being shredded the entire 2nd half, was given the opportunity to put the game away. Does that sound prudent?

Tomlin says he doesn't live in his fears. Maybe he should start.

As for the celebrating…Browns showboating has gone on since he started in this league. I would have stopped it years ago. Tell him once during the game to keep a lid on it. He does it again and he sits. Where was Hines Ward telling him to stop? Heath? What I don't understand is they still signal first down and TD celebrations even when they are losing. They only stop when they are getting blown out and are sure to lose.

[stinger8]

I miss Coach Noll.

Act like you've been there before.

Showboating penalties after a TD are borderline understandable.

For a freaking FIRST DOWN- this is ridiculous. Give the official the ball and get back to the huddle, Einstein.

I didn't have a problem with the penalty so much as the rule. It's fucking taunting. Who cares if they taunt people? They're grown men.

Bell got caught up in the moment. It happens. Trash talking an opponent should NEVER be a penalty. Heyward's penalty was worse because he was arguing with an official. But arguing with another player? The fact that they even consider that a penalty is a fucking joke.

If they did not police it you have no idea how bad it would get. Guys today have huge ego's and bigger mouths. Your Momma would be just the tip of the ice berg

[stinger8]

I miss Coach Noll.

Act like you've been there before.

Showboating penalties after a TD are borderline understandable.

For a freaking FIRST DOWN- this is ridiculous. Give the official the ball and get back to the huddle, Einstein.

They have the best model in the NFL on how it should be done. Just watch #83 and copy him and you will be fine.

[jeemie]

]And he said "IF" the celebrations become a problem he'll address it and put stop to it, but he wasn't interested in addressing emotional outbursts now. Admitting that instead of being proactive and stopping it before it became a problem weeks ago, he'll let it continue to snowball until it really becomes a major issue.


Under Noll, that player would be getting on w/ his life's work the following Monday...Of course, there was Bud Carson and Bad Radakovich roaming the sidelines in those days who would've been up into their players' facemasks..

Yeah, remember how disciplined guys like Jack Lambert and Joe Greene were all the time? Never any emotional outbursts from guys on those Noll teams.

Not for celebration. Don't recall that ever happening with any Noll player ever.

Swann and Stallworth had a touchdown celebration they did all the time.

You can see it at around the 47 second mark or so of this clip.

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uwt9Es4oidg[/youtube]

Wasn't a penalty back then, though.

[BethlehemSteel]

Social media world? Tomlin didn't have a Twitter account until the start of training camp last year and he's issued a grand total of 41 tweets since starting his account.

Facebook longer. Sunglasses socialman. Like Tim meadows

Fuck Tomlin

[Steelafan77]

As for the celebrating…Browns showboating has gone on since he started in this league. I would have stopped it years ago. Tell him once during the game to keep a lid on it. He does it again and he sits. Where was Hines Ward telling him to stop? Heath? What I don't understand is they still signal first down and TD celebrations even when they are losing. They only stop when they are getting blown out and are sure to lose.

I fully agree Ten. Heath I can agree with. Hines? Not so much. Hines was part of the celebration generation too. Not as bad as say ochocinco but Hines celebrated. I've seen Heath on occasion very seldom and its not really that noticeable.

[Legacy User]

I miss Coach Noll.

Act like you've been there before.

Showboating penalties after a TD are borderline understandable.

For a freaking FIRST DOWN- this is ridiculous. Give the official the ball and get back to the huddle, Einstein.

I didn't have a problem with the penalty so much as the rule. It's fucking taunting. Who cares if they taunt people? They're grown men.

Bell got caught up in the moment. It happens. Trash talking an opponent should NEVER be a penalty. Heyward's penalty was worse because he was arguing with an official. But arguing with another player? The fact that they even consider that a penalty is a fucking joke.

If they did not police it you have no idea how bad it would get. Guys today have huge ego's and bigger mouths. Your Momma would be just the tip of the ice berg

And if the league wasn't so obsessed with "enhancing the experience" by putting microphones on the field, they wouldn't have to worry so much about policing it.

They'll have helmet cameras on every player and microphones in every facemask by the end of the decade.

[Legacy User]

Follow the money. Its all about self promotion.

[FortyThree]

Social media world? Tomlin didn't have a Twitter account until the start of training camp last year and he's issued a grand total of 41 tweets since starting his account.

Facebook longer. Sunglasses socialman. Like Tim meadows

Fuck Tomlin

...the fuck?

[Legacy User]

As for the celebrating…Browns showboating has gone on since he started in this league. I would have stopped it years ago. Tell him once during the game to keep a lid on it. He does it again and he sits. Where was Hines Ward telling him to stop? Heath? What I don't understand is they still signal first down and TD celebrations even when they are losing. They only stop when they are getting blown out and are sure to lose.

Hines was doing this shit too. First down and TD celebrations.

[FortyThree]

I miss Coach Noll.

Act like you've been there before.

Showboating penalties after a TD are borderline understandable.

For a freaking FIRST DOWN- this is ridiculous. Give the official the ball and get back to the huddle, Einstein.

I didn't have a problem with the penalty so much as the rule. It's fucking taunting. Who cares if they taunt people? They're grown men.

Bell got caught up in the moment. It happens. Trash talking an opponent should NEVER be a penalty. Heyward's penalty was worse because he was arguing with an official. But arguing with another player? The fact that they even consider that a penalty is a fucking joke.

If they did not police it you have no idea how bad it would get. Guys today have huge ego's and bigger mouths. Your Momma would be just the tip of the ice berg

So what?

[Steelafan77]

And if the league wasn't so obsessed with "enhancing the experience" by putting microphones on the field, they wouldn't have to worry so much about policing it.

They'll have helmet cameras on every player and microphones in every facemask by the end of the decade.

They already started this process in training camps this year. GoPro type cam's on the QB's and WR's helmets. I thought everyone knew about this.