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Re: Pittsburgh we have a problem

Post by Ice » Thu Sep 06, 2018 6:34 pm

it's still yggy wrote:
Ice wrote:
it's still yggy wrote:It makes sense if you’re him.


Might be time for a drug test.


Yet another perk! He can take a Ricky Williams holiday


Given that stripper video, his "journey of self discovery" might be quite disturbing.


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Post by Jobu » Thu Sep 06, 2018 6:41 pm

JackSplat58 wrote:
Gonzo wrote:I told you this would happen
Job one for bell is to get to his next contract in one piece. Nothing from him as shown he really cares about legacy ... just the next contract. IMO right now he is pushing the steelers for some kind of gentlemens agreement they will allow him to play while taking serious steps to not get injured. Such as less physical practice and lower usage.

I would love Connor to perform but do t think he is up to the job long term. He is not Deangelo Williams. But perhaps this will make them rely on the passing game and Ben heavily which IMHO is a good thing.


Since when has DeAngelo Williams become some kind of LeRoy Kelly? To me he is JAG, above average for sure but no Hall Of Famer. I have my doubts about Conner but I also think that some folks are going to be shocked with how well he does in the bum's absence- especially with teams keying on AB and Ben.

Remember this was the team's narrative all along. They think Conner is the next Rocky Bleier in terms of his story. Inspirational and good for the Steeler brand.

And maybe he is. #HereWeGo

I keep remembering pre-cancer James Conner...that guy was a fucking beast! Is it too much to ask for that guy back?

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Post by StillerInCT » Thu Sep 06, 2018 6:43 pm

Jobus Rum wrote:
JackSplat58 wrote:
Gonzo wrote:I told you this would happen
Job one for bell is to get to his next contract in one piece. Nothing from him as shown he really cares about legacy ... just the next contract. IMO right now he is pushing the steelers for some kind of gentlemens agreement they will allow him to play while taking serious steps to not get injured. Such as less physical practice and lower usage.

I would love Connor to perform but do t think he is up to the job long term. He is not Deangelo Williams. But perhaps this will make them rely on the passing game and Ben heavily which IMHO is a good thing.


Since when has DeAngelo Williams become some kind of LeRoy Kelly? To me he is JAG, above average for sure but no Hall Of Famer. I have my doubts about Conner but I also think that some folks are going to be shocked with how well he does in the bum's absence- especially with teams keying on AB and Ben.

Remember this was the team's narrative all along. They think Conner is the next Rocky Bleier in terms of his story. Inspirational and good for the Steeler brand.

And maybe he is. #HereWeGo

I keep remembering pre-cancer James Conner...that guy was a fucking beast! Is it too much to ask for that guy back?


Hopefully we see him this year.
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Post by Kodiak » Thu Sep 06, 2018 7:01 pm

it's still yggy wrote:Bell is looking at 40M+ guaranteed next year.


I just posted why I think PIT offer was effectively $36M guaranteed. If it would have gotten the deal done, I bet Colbert would have fully guaranteed the first two years.

You're not going to quibble over $4-5M more guaranteed at that point. Strictly about the total deal value.

Impossible to guess at the math Bell is doing, but I'm thinking he figures if he loses $5M sitting out that he'll make that up in guaranteed money. But he's probably hoping for a 5/$85M deal, which is $3M per year more.

Gurley's deal is not THAT comparable - he had a year left on his rookie deal, plus a 5th year option, plus then a franchise tag. But one way of looking at his deal is 4 extra years at an average of $14.4M per year (let's not ignore that such deals often take increasing caps into account). Another way is that it's a 6/$70.5M deal. He was already guaranteed $12M when you include the 5th-yr option.

If I'm Bell's agent, I don't think I'm pointing to the Gurley deal unless Bell outperforms him (unlikely). Plus, Gurley could have taken out a $10M insurance policy (giving him $22M in guarantees) and played Bell's game....so we can assume Gurley thought that deal was fair and in the ball park of what he might expect as a FA.
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