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Re: There has never been a better year to turn off the SB

Post by swissvale72 » Sat Feb 03, 2018 11:18 pm

955876 wrote:It’s funny how almost the moment he won all these Russia Russia Russia claims came out.

We now know they had Trumps campaign under illegal surveillance. Soooooo if there really was all this collusion, something the Mueller probe has yet to prove after a full year, wouldn’t they have been able to capture this BEFORE the election?

They would have dropped that bomb before Nov 8 not after.


Obama's explained this '95....basically believing that the citizenry of the USA would not have been so fucked in the head as to elect this asshole President. I'm oft-reminded of a convo I had with a PEI fisherman in the summer of '16, assuring him there was no way that Trump would be elected. "I don't know," he said, "you've got plenty of rednecks down there."

You know as well as anybody, '95, that these investigations proceed deliberately. Look how long Watergate took. At this point though, it seems to clear that if Trump didn't collude, he sure as fuck has obstructed...and continues to do so.



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Post by 955876 » Sat Feb 03, 2018 11:30 pm

I’ll have to agree to disagree here I regards to Obama’s comment.

He knew the Russsians meddle in not justbours but elections around the world. They aren’t out to favor Trump or Hill. They are out to disrupt democracy. Ha nothing to do with the candidate.

And ask yourself his, Obama’s and Himmarybas SOS pretty much allowed Putin to do whatever the fuck he wanted. In Ukraine. In the Middle East. Why would he favor an unknown in Trump vs the known push overs he’d been dealing with already?

You see that video clip of Obama talking to the Russian ambassador not realizing here was a hot mic? Remember that?

Tapping my his legs and saying “you tell Vladimir this is my last election. I’ll have a lot more flexibility on things after the election. You be sure to tell Vladimir that”.

Flexibility on what? This was right before the 2012.

No outrage from he left in that. Why?

And yet Trump is deep in bed with the Russians.

All they’ve come up with this far is here was a meeting where some Russians were going to provide dirt on Hills. There is NOTHING illegal about that.

Difference between the two campaigns is that one campaign was trying to get dirt while the other used manufactured dirt and the power of Obama’s DOJ to use said manufactured dirt to obtain illegal FISA warrants.

And Obama is also on record saying it’s “preposterous to think a foreign entity could tamper in our elections” or something real close to that.

Until she lost. Then it was the Russsians that hit him elected.

How?
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Post by 955876 » Sat Feb 03, 2018 11:32 pm

Gotta run. Will pick this up with you asshats later.

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Post by jeemie » Sun Feb 04, 2018 1:40 am

955876 wrote:So it’s ok to use bogus campaign research to have a FISA court agree to wiretap a private citizen?

Campaign “research” bought and paid for by the Clinton campaign. Research that was in part supplied by the Russians.

A material fact NOT disclosed to said FISA court. McCabe gave testimony the warrant would not have been granted had they shared with the court the basis for their request was the dossier paid for by Clinton.

Since this is your view then I’ll know in advance that it's A-ok for Trumps 2020 campaign to use the powers of the FBI to spy on private citizens.

Check.


If I have to explain fully, that means I’ll lose politically.

So I won’t explain fully....you’ll just have to deal with the fact that you’re wrong and I know you’re wrong.

A) McCabe testified no such thing.
B) It’s wrong...or unfounded, since Nunes admitted he never read the FISA application...to claim the Steele Dossier was central to the FISA application.
C) Courts base warrants on information from biased sources all the time because “biased” is not (always) the same as “bogus”.

You’re wrong on all your assumptions.
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Post by 955876 » Sun Feb 04, 2018 1:58 am

Heads in the sand Jeemie.

You really think a judge is going to grant a FISA warrant based on something bought & paid for by the very person running against the other candidate?

And Obstruction?

Like destroying a server? A server that contained emails that were required to have records maintained of? Wiped clean with bleach bit program? Then Blackberries smashed with hammers?

Obstruction like that?

That is obstruction. Yet the “ethical” FBI swept it under the rug.

All the while signing off on FISA warrants paid for by the very person they were pretending to “investigate”

If you weren’t so blinded by your hate of a man you’d be outraged at the behavior of our Dept of “Justice”

Their behavior very reminiscent of the very Russians you all seem so concerned about.

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Post by 955876 » Sun Feb 04, 2018 2:31 am

So I won’t explain fully....you’ll just have to deal with the fact that you’re wrong and I know you’re wrong.


It’s funny how it’s always repubs that lie and the Dems never lie. Until of course they are caught red handed in a lie.

But then its still not a lie. Because they told you so.

And you’ll believe. Each and every time.

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Post by Legacy User » Sun Feb 04, 2018 2:58 am

You people are hopeless. You don't have to respond, but you just can't help yourselves. Pour some bourbon and put on Alabama by Coltrane. Stare off into nothing while you listen. Forget about this fucking thread. :D

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Post by 955876 » Sun Feb 04, 2018 3:58 am

And yet you respond Lit.... ;)

I’m actually waiting for my take out so have a few. Then I’ll likely spend some time in the spa tonight with some rye. You enjoy those Lit?

Anyways, a question. What sort of “collusion” are you guys expecting to find? And how did that sway the election? I mean, was Russian mafia outside polling stations telling people to vote Trump or else? And how would they even know if someone did or not?

Did they tamper with voting machines? Drug people to check his box and not hers? And then what has he offered in return? Is he going to sell them the rest of our uranium? Is he going to draw a second red line in the sand in Syria and then not do a thing once that line gets crossed?

Did he promise to sit by while Putin rolls through Ukraine? Again.

What? What did they give and what did he receive and what did he offer them in exchange? FBI was bugging his campaign. People are leaking shit left and right. So where is the evidence of any crime being committed? A year later and the Mueller probe has been a big stink bomb.

And yet there is very real evidence of crimes committed by our former SOS. Indisputable evidence. Unless of course grossly mishandling of classified information is no longer a crime. I don’t think that is the case because people go to real jail and lose their security clearances for doing so.

And there is real evidence of the former presidential candidate committing obstruction. Not assumed or hoped to be the case like the Mueller probe but actual obstruction with plenty of evidence.

Working for “we the people” yet doesn’t maintain records of her department emails as is required. Recovered emails from her stating she doesn’t use her department email because she wants to avoid Freedom of Information Act disclosures. No biggie right?

Issued a subpoena yet deletes the emails anyways. Funny how a subpoena needs to be issued to retrieve information that should be on file anyways. Has IT people wipe server clean then jokes about it. Just to be sure, smashes devices and throws them away.

All obstruction. And yet James Mr. Ethics Comey says no reasonable prosecutor would bring charges. Huh? Well I guess no prosecutor would that was worried about bringing charges against their future boss. Something recovered FBI text reveal those investigating her were concerned about.

Verifiable crimes right in your face. And you look away. Nothing to see here. Hillary said it’s all good. And so did Loretta Lynch. So I’ll just eat my popcorn and wait for the real obstruction that Trump did. I know he did. Hillary said so. And I know she did nothing wrong. Cuz ummm, she said so.

You ignored real obstruction amongst other actual crimes and till voted for her and a year later still waiting on the “real” Trump/Russia collusion.

It’s really really funny.

What if Trump had done all that she has and there was PROOF? Just like there is with her? That’s why those that defend her while while hopelessly waiting for the “real” obstruction really have no moral integrity

Lastly, remember when Obama said he wanted to have “the most transparent administration in history”??

What happened to that? How could he even begin to achieve that when he openly allowed his SOS to avoid FIA by running everything off a private server? And please don’t say he didn’t know. You’d really make yourselves look foolish. He knew. Unless you believe POTUS didn’t send a single email to his SOS over a 3 year period. That’s laughable.

Don’t worry Lit. I don’t need to respond again and can now enjoy that cocktail. This post was somewhat of a mike drop anyways.

Let them explain to me how they can have such grave concern over Trump “obstruction” for which there isn’t yet a shred of evidence yet literally turned a blind eye to the obstruction their beloved Hilliar committed right in front of everyone’s faces.

And then had our DOJ & FBI turn a freakin blind eye because they were “with her”...

Its despicable frankly what the DOJ & FBI did.
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Post by Legacy User » Sun Feb 04, 2018 4:24 am

Truly, 95, you are a wonder. My impression is that you must spend hours a day watching Fox *cough* "News" *cough* until you've got their take on everything down pat all ready to spew it all over a message board. Now I can see you spend more time on politics than I do, so I don't have all the answers to everything you put out, but I'm fairly certain you are full of baloney on many issues.

I still think you're wrong about it being possible to prove Hillary was guilty of anything, but like I said, if she is, the Republicans control the whole government. Go get her. Strange that after promising to lock Hillary up his whole campaign, Trump has done Jack about it after winning the election. It's almost as if there's nothing to it, and Trump was just using it to get elected.

I think you're full of baloney if you think this Nunes memo means Jack anything. But your reaction is the exact one Trump was hoping for. He must be so happy. The Watergate investigation took two years. Slow your roll about how it's been a year for Mueller's investigation, and nothing's come out, so it must be a dud. Let's see what the final report is, shall we?

No, I have no intention of entering into a lengthy debate. Spew away, faithful Fox viewer!

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Post by 955876 » Sun Feb 04, 2018 4:44 am

I still think you're wrong about it being possible to prove Hillary was guilty of anything,


She didn’t fail to maintain record of her official SOS emails?

She didn’t say she used her private server rather than official department email to avoid freedom of info act compliance?

She didn’t have IT people wipe server clean with bleach bit?

She didn’t have her people smash Blackberries?

She didn’t mishandle classified info? How did it end up on her assistants husbands laptop? You know, the guy in jail for child porn.

And you say I’m a wonder? Seriously, how much more evidence do you need? Enlighten me.

It has fuck all with Fox News. Are you saying what I stated above is just another “vast right wing conspiracy”? Are you?

And yet, you are awaiting Trump “obstruction” when as of right now you can’t even say HOW he obstructed or WHAT he obstructed or HOW he colluded and HOW that changed things and WHAT he gave in return. You have none of that. If you do, present it.

All the while completely ignoring the very real evidence against Madam Hilliar that you cannot dispute but sill come back with derrr uhhhh I dont think there be no evidence 95 like they gots against Trump.

Ummm. Ok.

Hillary essentially took a big dump and rubbed your nose in it and your reaction is thank you ma’am may I have another.

Dispute my points or save it.

I’m making the stronger argument. You are arguing “obstruction” and “collusion” for which there is still no evidence. Well, except for the fact the people you happen to trust have told you so.

The very people that either committed, covered up, or were complicit to crimes that actually happened. For which there is actual proof. The irony of your position is literally hilarious.

You’ve lost this debate whether you realize it or not.

Unless of course the Mueller investigation uncovers every single thing I detailed she did and your response is the same, “ummm I still don’t think you can prove he did anything wrong”

You and I both know if my points against her was the evidence against him you would have the opposite opinion you have now.

It’s why you have no integrity.

I would not defend him if he had done what she has and here was proof.

I call a spade a freaking spade. You are incapable.

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Post by 955876 » Sun Feb 04, 2018 5:00 am

Republicans control the whole government.


Secret here dumbo. Some repubs and Dems are in name only. They are many in it for themselves.

Bush was a “repub” but that family is in with the Clintons all the same.

Trump is an outsider. He presents a threat to both sides.

That’s why “his party” fought his nomination tooth & nail until they had no choice and had to finally recognize Jeb freaking Bush or chirping bird Marco Rubio had no shot at beating her.

Trump didn’t have to collude to win his nomination. Like ahem, she did. No biggie again right?

I’m curious, why are such blatant and verifable acts or crimes so easily dismissed by Dems? It’s really bizarre. It’s like literally all you need is for the guilty party to say they are innocent and you completely move on. Nothing to see here. CNN said so tee hee.

You are certainly correct about one thing, you haven’t much a clue bout these things.
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Post by jeemie » Sun Feb 04, 2018 5:11 am

Donald Trump is a threat to precisely no one.
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Post by swissvale72 » Sun Feb 04, 2018 5:12 am

SNL....Mr. 40-year-old virgin Devin Nunes.

:lol: :lol: :lol:

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Post by 955876 » Sun Feb 04, 2018 5:16 am

Jeemie wrote:Donald Trump is a threat to precisely no one.


So why so much fear & hate?

Don’t answer. You seem to agree with Poltargyst and Cor-Ten on this stuff so I’ll juat leave the same challenge to you as I did them.
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Post by 955876 » Sun Feb 04, 2018 5:31 am

swissvale72 wrote:SNL....Mr. 40-year-old virgin Devin Nunes.

:lol: :lol: :lol:


I forget most of you asshats are on the east coast. Only 9:30 here.

Just waiting for the spa to get up to temp. A temp nicely regulated by the state of California mind you. I’m happy to know my tax payer dollars when not being used to fund illegals is being used to regulate my spa temperature. Phew. Don’t know what I’d do without them looking out for me.

I can only hope they raise my already highest in the nation taxes for another of their fabulous ideas. I have no idea why the state is broke.

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Post by jeemie » Sun Feb 04, 2018 12:45 pm

955876 wrote:
Jeemie wrote:Donald Trump is a threat to precisely no one.


So why so much fear & hate?

Don’t answer. You seem to agree with Poltargyst and Cor-Ten on this stuff so I’ll juat leave the same challenge to you as I did them.


He's an idiot unfit for the job. That's why.

Sometimes it really is that simple.

And stop with your simplistic grouping of people into two camps.

It's beneath you.
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Post by Gonzo » Sun Feb 04, 2018 12:52 pm

I will not be watching the House Party Survivor super Bowl wit the Kardahsinas tonight
I hope they vote Brady out of the house ... or'off the island or into the Panamanian jail

Will be at sons rugby tournament in the rain in Charlotte

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Post by Suwanee88 » Sun Feb 04, 2018 1:40 pm

Still Lit wrote:
Suwanee88 wrote:I am Italian (nothing white about me).


:?

If you are confused, you are obviously not Italian - ask Swiss.

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Post by Steel Ubaldo » Sun Feb 04, 2018 1:44 pm

Politics suck. Politicians suck. This super bowl is going to suck. BUT I will watch it though. I will take any excuse to get away from the wife and 3 kids for a few hours.

I will be with a bunch of Eagles fans at a house party. The one guy was supposed to get strippers but I think it fell through. My hope is the strippers show up and maybe I won’t watch much of the game at all 8-)

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Post by swissvale72 » Sun Feb 04, 2018 2:03 pm

Steel Ubaldo wrote:Politics suck. Politicians suck. This super bowl is going to suck. BUT I will watch it though. I will take any excuse to get away from the wife and 3 kids for a few hours.

I will be with a bunch of Eagles fans at a house party. The one guy was supposed to get strippers but I think it fell through. My hope is the strippers show up and maybe I won’t watch much of the game at all 8-)


Thanks Ubaldo....shifting the convo from politics to strippers will do us all good.

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swissvale72 wrote:
Steel Ubaldo wrote:Politics suck. Politicians suck. This super bowl is going to suck. BUT I will watch it though. I will take any excuse to get away from the wife and 3 kids for a few hours.

I will be with a bunch of Eagles fans at a house party. The one guy was supposed to get strippers but I think it fell through. My hope is the strippers show up and maybe I won’t watch much of the game at all 8-)


Thanks Ubaldo....shifting the convo from politics to strippers will do us all good.




Not that big of a shift at all when your talking about the orange clown, his crime family, and strippers/whores/golden showers.

:lol:

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Post by swissvale72 » Sun Feb 04, 2018 2:27 pm

GreekSteel wrote:
swissvale72 wrote:
Steel Ubaldo wrote:Politics suck. Politicians suck. This super bowl is going to suck. BUT I will watch it though. I will take any excuse to get away from the wife and 3 kids for a few hours.

I will be with a bunch of Eagles fans at a house party. The one guy was supposed to get strippers but I think it fell through. My hope is the strippers show up and maybe I won’t watch much of the game at all 8-)


Thanks Ubaldo....shifting the convo from politics to strippers will do us all good.




Not that big of a shift at all when your talking about the orange clown, his crime family, and strippers/whores/golden showers.

:lol:


Hahaha!! Guess that's true, Greek!!

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Post by stinger8 » Sun Feb 04, 2018 2:29 pm

955876 wrote:
swissvale72 wrote:SNL....Mr. 40-year-old virgin Devin Nunes.

:lol: :lol: :lol:


I forget most of you asshats are on the east coast. Only 9:30 here.

Just waiting for the spa to get up to temp. A temp nicely regulated by the state of California mind you. I’m happy to know my tax payer dollars when not being used to fund illegals is being used to regulate my spa temperature. Phew. Don’t know what I’d do without them looking out for me.

I can only hope they raise my already highest in the nation taxes for another of their fabulous ideas. I have no idea why the state is broke.


Oh 95 you are so far up Alex's Jones (I bet you have a poster of him next to your Terry Bradshaw poster) ass you cant breathe. You spout so much bullshit it is SAD. As usual, like your fearless leader you lie, here is a list of highest taxed states and California is in fact 10th. USA today, pretty good source as I know you will have a Brietbart article up soon to dispel.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/money/na ... 100064034/

The Russians helped Cheatolini win by initiating millions and millions of unsolicited messages and fake stories (propaganda comrade) aimed at supporting Cheatolini's candidacy. This is a fact, indisputable, thats how they helped the orange fuhrer win.
Fredo (Cheatolini's progeny) along with his dweeb son in law and Manafort met with Russians to discuss these plans and to get "dirt" on Clinton. That is called collusion, comrade and it is why Mike Flynn plead GUILTY already comrade, as he was assuring the Ruskies about sanctions being lifted in return for their help (Mueller will call it a quid pro quo at the impeachment trial). Evidence of obstruction is too lengthy to list right now.

Not even going to get into the obvious money laundering going on with Trump real estate, that will be another trial. Can't wait to see Cheatolini's taxes (same guy who did not pay taxes for 18 years to you know support the army and stuff, the army he refused to join when called- what a patriot :lol: :lol: ).

The whole world is watching this circus in amazement. It's banana republic(an) worthy.

95 what do you think about California, Oregon, and Washington succeeding and joining Canada, then you could be Calinadian and really get a load of high taxes (good news you would have enough water for your spa, BTW we call them hot tubs in Calinadia)

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Post by Suwanee88 » Sun Feb 04, 2018 2:30 pm

Why have the SB on Sunday night vs Saturday night - dumb

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Post by swissvale72 » Sun Feb 04, 2018 2:36 pm

Suwanee88 wrote:Why have the SB on Sunday night vs Saturday night - dumb


Always thought so, Suwanee.....sure it has to do with viewership, advertising, lead-ins to other shows, etc.

At one time, at least it used to start around 4pm.

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Post by Legacy User » Sun Feb 04, 2018 3:49 pm

Russians have been trying to influence US politics since 1920. That doesn't prove anything. So were the Saudis who donated heavily to the Hillary campaign and so were the Mexicans through media including Univision and the NY Times. Jesus, people learn to think. Of course foreign governments try to influence elections. Obama tried to swing Israel against Netanyahu. Why is he not the demon that Putin is? The only collusion with Russians to try to fix the election proven so far is with Hillary campaign and Fusion GPS fake dossier.

The left had ZERO concern about Russians infiltrating unions and entertainment in the fifties and sixties so please spare me your fake Sovietphobia. But you were plenty worried about Hoover and his spying on Communists. The left also welcomed Cultural Marxism into campuses all over the country destroying higher ed, so this newly found fear of Russia and love of the FBI is more emotional knee jerk phoniness from the gang that can't think straight.

Speaking of cheating, did the national media just completely fucking forget about Spygate and Deflategate in their unending praise of the Pats? Go Philly. Let me know what happens, I will be doing something else.

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Post by Legacy User » Sun Feb 04, 2018 3:51 pm

Stinger8 wrote:
955876 wrote:
swissvale72 wrote:SNL....Mr. 40-year-old virgin Devin Nunes.

:lol: :lol: :lol:


I forget most of you asshats are on the east coast. Only 9:30 here.

Just waiting for the spa to get up to temp. A temp nicely regulated by the state of California mind you. I’m happy to know my tax payer dollars when not being used to fund illegals is being used to regulate my spa temperature. Phew. Don’t know what I’d do without them looking out for me.

I can only hope they raise my already highest in the nation taxes for another of their fabulous ideas. I have no idea why the state is broke.


Oh 95 you are so far up Alex's Jones (I bet you have a poster of him next to your Terry Bradshaw poster) ass you cant breathe. You spout so much bullshit it is SAD. As usual, like your fearless leader you lie, here is a list of highest taxed states and California is in fact 10th. USA today, pretty good source as I know you will have a Brietbart article up soon to dispel.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/money/na ... 100064034/

The Russians helped Cheatolini win by initiating millions and millions of unsolicited messages and fake stories (propaganda comrade) aimed at supporting Cheatolini's candidacy. This is a fact, indisputable, thats how they helped the orange fuhrer win.
Fredo (Cheatolini's progeny) along with his dweeb son in law and Manafort met with Russians to discuss these plans and to get "dirt" on Clinton. That is called collusion, comrade and it is why Mike Flynn plead GUILTY already comrade, as he was assuring the Ruskies about sanctions being lifted in return for their help (Mueller will call it a quid pro quo at the impeachment trial). Evidence of obstruction is too lengthy to list right now.

Not even going to get into the obvious money laundering going on with Trump real estate, that will be another trial. Can't wait to see Cheatolini's taxes (same guy who did not pay taxes for 18 years to you know support the army and stuff, the army he refused to join when called- what a patriot :lol: :lol: ).

The whole world is watching this circus in amazement. It's banana republic(an) worthy.

95 what do you think about California, Oregon, and Washington succeeding and joining Canada, then you could be Calinadian and really get a load of high taxes (good news you would have enough water for your spa, BTW we call them hot tubs in Calinadia)


DEERRRFFFFFF fuckin losers on this site

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Post by Legacy User » Sun Feb 04, 2018 4:13 pm

Suwanee88 wrote:
Still Lit wrote:
Suwanee88 wrote:I am Italian (nothing white about me).


:?

If you are confused, you are obviously not Italian - ask Swiss.


Don't need Swiss to tell me you're as Western European as it gets. "I'm not white bc I have a swarthy (but do you or are you a pale Italian?) Mediterranean complexion."

Fine, I'm not white either. I'm actually Anglo-Saxon.

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Post by breeze » Sun Feb 04, 2018 4:33 pm

The overwhelming majority of my friends tuned out of NFL football this year. I did to for that matter. We've been so closely tied to this sport for our entire lives that we all felt the void. It's been central to how we socialize as men, as families and as a society.

The people I know, universally, saw it as offensive when Kapaernick's silent and respectful statement about the Black people being harassed, demeaned and sometimes killed by officials of the state was remade into a protest of the flag and the military when it was never that at all. My work exclusively serves military veterans assisting them with VA disability benefits claims and in the chatter that occurs among them in the barbershop-on-saturday environment that is my office, many of them also believe Kapaernick shouldn't be locked out of his livelihood and that he's engaging in a responsible act of patriotism by using his voice in the way that he has. I've heard more than one of them say that

Other friends, being parents, see the game as increasingly dangerous and are choosing to steer their children to playing tennis, soccer, basketball, golf, baseball, softball and other sports. Others were already put off by the handling of Ray Rice, Ezekiel Elliot and other domestic violence offenders. Still others were put off by the stories of Jim McMahon, Earl Campbell, Mike Webster, Tony Dorsett - all warriors in their respective positions - being so afflicted by their time in the game. Still, I know there are large swaths of the population that believe players have disrespected the flag, the military and the country by engaging in their protest of Black people being harassed, demeaned and sometimes killed by officials of the state.

All of this is to say Malcolm Gladwell might have been right. The he decline of the game and the league has been in motion since I fell in love with the game in the 1970. We're only now seeing it clearly.
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Post by 955876 » Sun Feb 04, 2018 4:45 pm

You spout so much bullshit it is SAD. As usual, like your fearless leader you lie, here is a list of highest taxed states and California is in fact 10th.


CA’s highest rate is currently 13.3%. You can google it. That list you provided isn’t showing the whole story.

But I’m not getting into this with you today.

And that other stuff you posted was well, pretty funny.

Yep. That’s it. Russian propaganda tricked people. Yepper. Tricked them from what? Not voting for one of the most corrupt politicians in our history? You actually believe it was “propaganda” that led people to vote the way they did? Could not possibly be she was an even worse candidate than he was could it.

Na it’s just can’t 95. Cuz ummm Hillary herself said it was the Russians. :lol:

Tear his down to its basic level. You are convinced there was this massive collusion & obstructuon all because the politicians you are accustomed to believing have told you so. Never mind that to date they have not provided you one shred of evidence to support it. And yet you believe.

On the other hand. There is mountains of actual evidence to show real obstruction and collusion. Evidence that really can’t be debated. Yet you completely ignore it. It’s false. It’s fake. It doesn’t exist.

And why do you think this way? Because your “trusted” politicians have told you so. That’s it.

Never mind these are the very people that either committed, covered up, or were complicit to actual crimes.

Yes or no to those that can’t seem to grasp this.

If Trump has done all the same things I’ve laid out against Hillary and DOJ let him skate would you all still say, well, I guess he didn’t do anything after all. It was just a left wing conspiracy theory all along. Would you think that?

What if they wanted to see Trump’s emails yet you found his IT guys wiped the server clean?

What if they figured they could look at his Blackberry but ooops, it’s been smashed to pieces?

What if he was accused of grossly mishandling classified information after being granted his security clearance? He said he did not but classified info is later found on his assistants husbands laptop. A man in praising for kiddie porn.

What if prior to running for President he held a high ranking position in our government and while doing so brought in millions and millions of dollars from foreign entities while serving in said position and as soon as he lost the election those contributions dried up? Hmmmm

What if there was evidence that the RNC had colluded to ensure he won the nomination instead of the other candidates?

Oh I could go on.

Would you let him off the hook for all that? Not likely. You all are ready for him to hang with only the evidence you think exists. Haven’t been shown anything yet. All the while there IS the evidence I’ve laid out. But you cover your ears and hide you eyes. If you were at least honest with her I could see your side with him. But you aren’t.

Lastly, I don’t watch Alex Jones Stinger nor care about Trumps tax returns.

You know why? Because Obama’s IRS (the one that had been illegally targeting right wing groups for which there is proof but yet something else swept under the rug) has those tax returns. He files one every year. If dude was laundering money for the Russians or anyone else don’t you think they should have caught that by now?

Or does it take a Canadian poster on a football message board to sniff out that activity?

None of you can say with a straight face you’d give him the pass she has been given. That’s why none of you are being honest in this debate.
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