Bell Tweets

[Legacy User]

We don't know if Bell will actually be a drop in production behind this line AFTER he is in game shape. But will that happen in two weeks? I don't see how it can. He's been out too long. And he won't (read: shouldn't) get enough touches supplanting Conner to get into game shape quickly. So four weeks? Maybe?

And I'm not as worried about the team accepting him back as long as he comes in and works. It isn't about attitude or contract or anything like that. It's about sweat equity now. It's about showing his teammates that he's PHYSICALLY invested in helping the team. Want the O-line to bust their asses for you? Hit the fucking holes and break tackles. Move the chains. Nothing else really matters.

But what about the fans in the stands? He's a head case already. What happens when the boo's reign down on him? What happens when he gets stuffed and the crowd reacts. What happens if he fumbles? Things can/will turn south REAL quick. And back to the performance issue, he has a LOT more to lose than gain. When he's running behind the same line as James, he will HAVE to put up better numbers. There is no way his value doesn't drop if he can't outshine James. I don't see how he comes back and rushes for 10+ yards a carry. And if he starts faking injuries, tell me how his value increases. There is really no scenario that him stepping on the field benefits him....or us. And the fans are going to let him know it. Pretty sure it's going to get ugly.

Bell likely won't be a productive football player for a few weeks.

That's okay, we've played most of this season without him anyway. We'll survive.

But Bell has plenty to lose the rest of this season if he doesn't absolutely BALL OUT when he has the chance.

Prospective suitors will be watching him closely. They'll be watching how he does in comparison with James Conner.

Is he the product of a system? Bell cannot afford to dog it or look like shit on the field and I'm 100% sure he knows this.

Bell is one helluva football player. Make no mistake about that.

Isn't that exactly what I just said? I'll take it that we're in agreement.

[Steelperch]

Fing SteelersDepot Dave blocked me for calling him out for being petty and rude with Missi Matthews or AK... basically, he cut and pasted a deleted tweet... something she realized was wrong and deleted... just so that he could call her stupid. I suggested that he'd better prepare himself for the inevitable deluge of tweets the next time he posts something at odds with the facts.

Big Ben 7 blocked me-- ME, of all people... the internet's leading supporter of Ben, who has taken it as a personal crusade to set the record straight and be his advocate... they blocked me for god-knows-what.

If a Ben Roethlisberger twitter account and the guy who copied my show (imitation is the sincerest form of flattery) can block me, anybody can block anybody.

Did I ever tell you the chick who runs Ben’s twitter account PMs me?. She’s a fan.

[Ice]

Maybe he's registered to vote in Pittsburgh and is just coming up to do his civic duty?

Of all the posts in this thread, this is the one I hope is true.

[LakecrestSteeler]

Maybe he's registered to vote in Pittsburgh and is just coming up to do his civic duty?

Of all the posts in this thread, this is the one I hope is true.

No way it is true. Guaranteed his registered home address is Florida, no state income tax. One of the seven - Alaska, Florida, Nevada, South Dakota, Texas, Washington, and Wyoming. But then again...he is not about the money.

[Minkah'n History]

I ain't the player eval officianado types like you guys. But I know I've seen enough of ridley and Samuels to know bell's an upgrade as a backup running back and change-up. I've seen enough of hunter/washington to know Bell won't be any worse than either as a 3rd wr option.

I've seen enough of bell to know he's a special talent so u don't just hide him on the inactive list because he hurt your feelings by doing what he did (and you have right to be pissed).

And this is just gut....but I find it hard to believe, if he's in shape, that the guy won't be able to run some solid routes and find a way to get open against 3rd cb's.

Enough of Samuels? What does he have 3 or 4 rushes the entire year?

[Legacy User]

honestly bell lovers! substitute bell in for Conner this year with same stats and we all be raving about rejuvenated bell with the 20 plus yard runs and his pass catching and his nose for the end zone and how smart it was to lock bell up long term. but its Conner doing this load. fuck bell.

[zeke5123]

Fing SteelersDepot Dave blocked me for calling him out for being petty and rude with Missi Matthews or AK... basically, he cut and pasted a deleted tweet... something she realized was wrong and deleted... just so that he could call her stupid. I suggested that he'd better prepare himself for the inevitable deluge of tweets the next time he posts something at odds with the facts.

Big Ben 7 blocked me-- ME, of all people... the internet's leading supporter of Ben, who has taken it as a personal crusade to set the record straight and be his advocate... they blocked me for god-knows-what.

If a Ben Roethlisberger twitter account and the guy who copied my show (imitation is the sincerest form of flattery) can block me, anybody can block anybody.

Maybe he was a bit...creeped out?

[Legacy User]

Fing SteelersDepot Dave blocked me for calling him out for being petty and rude with Missi Matthews or AK... basically, he cut and pasted a deleted tweet... something she realized was wrong and deleted... just so that he could call her stupid. I suggested that he'd better prepare himself for the inevitable deluge of tweets the next time he posts something at odds with the facts.

Big Ben 7 blocked me-- ME, of all people... the internet's leading supporter of Ben, who has taken it as a personal crusade to set the record straight and be his advocate... they blocked me for god-knows-what.

If a Ben Roethlisberger twitter account and the guy who copied my show (imitation is the sincerest form of flattery) can block me, anybody can block anybody.

Bell blocked me after I gave him shit about not signing the big deal last year. Ed Douchette blocked me because he's a sensitive prick.

[steelmann58]

the thing is bell never had so many carries of 20 yards than Conner had so far this season. Bell will be a good backup

[COR-TEN]

So let me get this straight. Bell has lied, stalled, taken hostage the rb position (didn't work), wants to coach himself and devise game plans that suit his fancy. He tweets out from a jet ski while his team mates are busting their asses. This on the heels of his raps and vids of how he deserves the moon and mars as well.

Lets assume the best case scenario for the steelers - they make it to the SB with Bell as a backup. Even better case scenario the steelers win.

You all want bell to get a ring for sitting on a jet ski in florida for the bulk of the season? A season where he didn't do jack shit for and he gets a ring for riding the pine or 10 snaps a game as a decoy?

[DP39]

The only way I see this thing with Bell working out is if he comes back and tows the company line and is a good soldier doing and saying everything Tomlin and the FO tells him to. With his ego, I don't see that turning out very well. Honestly, I would pay him the $4-6M to sit and be a good boy, while preparing himself like a pro if he's needed down the stretch. If you think about it, what's $4-6M to the guy that you got a ton of production out of on his cheap rookie contract. Think of it as a bonus for past years work.

It should be interesting to say the least.

[stillthere]

So let me get this straight. Bell has lied, stalled, taken hostage the rb position (didn't work), wants to coach himself and devise game plans that suit his fancy. He tweets out from a jet ski while his team mates are busting their asses. This on the heels of his raps and vids of how he deserves the moon and mars as well.

Lets assume the best case scenario for the steelers - they make it to the SB with Bell as a backup. Even better case scenario the steelers win.

You all want bell to get a ring for sitting on a jet ski in florida for the bulk of the season? A season where he didn't do jack shit for and he gets a ring for riding the pine or 10 snaps a game as a decoy?

I would not even mind if Bell is the Superbowl MVP and then rides off into the sunset with another team. Just get #7. You think the Patriots would not have been happy to give James Harrison a SB ring this last summer?

[Jobu]

It should be interesting to say the least.

Now that’s something we can all agree on.

[Jobu]

So let me get this straight. Bell has lied, stalled, taken hostage the rb position (didn't work), wants to coach himself and devise game plans that suit his fancy. He tweets out from a jet ski while his team mates are busting their asses. This on the heels of his raps and vids of how he deserves the moon and mars as well.

Lets assume the best case scenario for the steelers - they make it to the SB with Bell as a backup. Even better case scenario the steelers win.

You all want bell to get a ring for sitting on a jet ski in florida for the bulk of the season? A season where he didn't do jack shit for and he gets a ring for riding the pine or 10 snaps a game as a decoy?

I would not even mind if Bell is the Superbowl MVP and then rides off into the sunset with another team. Just get #7. You think the Patriots would not have been happy to give James Harrison a SB ring this last summer?

Yep.

[K_C_]

So let me get this straight. Bell has lied, stalled, taken hostage the rb position (didn't work), wants to coach himself and devise game plans that suit his fancy. He tweets out from a jet ski while his team mates are busting their asses. This on the heels of his raps and vids of how he deserves the moon and mars as well.

Lets assume the best case scenario for the steelers - they make it to the SB with Bell as a backup. Even better case scenario the steelers win.

You all want bell to get a ring for sitting on a jet ski in florida for the bulk of the season? A season where he didn't do jack shit for and he gets a ring for riding the pine or 10 snaps a game as a decoy?

If anything happens to Conner, you will shit yourself thanking God Bell is on the roster.

Hell, he'll make plays at RB/WR to help us win games soon after he gets back on the field.

Bell may be a cunt, but he's one helluva football player.

All the guys on the NFL Network (former players) all agreed that Bell will be welcomed with open arms. Immediately.

Go ahead and take a gander at our schedule the rest of the way. We're gonna need all the help we can get.

[Legacy User]

Without a doubt Bell is a great football player.

That's where it ends.

Everyone that is siding with the Bell option is assuming he would step up if Conner gets hurt.

What did Bell gain by sitting out 10 games? Health Health Health He's reducing the impact or potential of injury and is relying on his PREVIOUS body of work to impress potential suitors.

Let's look at this in reverse. Sign the tag, play two or three amazing games...pull a hammy, collect a check and be 14.5M richer for doing so. He could have a nagging injury that during the off season is completely gone (all made up). Why is that not a good option? Injuries look bad. Potential suitors will think he's in the decline period of the career.

So the only real make sense situation is he is forgoing the compensation, signing in on week 10 or whatever magic date gives him season credit. Heck I'm not even sure he has to sign in at all, that is being discussed around the league. He knows if he gets hurt that next season is done. He only gets the super contract if he's healthy.

So in Bell we trust? Sorry, I don't see any situation where Bell benefits unless it's to clear the hurdle to get credit for the season and move on. Playing in the remaining games are not in his best interests.

For the Harrison Superbowl ring comparison statement. That's Pats giving him a ring because he went to them. If Gronk came to us because he was fed up with the Pats, plays two games, we win the Superbowl...yep, I'll be super happy about that ring ceremony. It's apples and oranges. Bell has put the "possibility" of a future pay day above all of his teammates. At a minimum, be honest with everything and all these message threads go away.

[Stillerz Bar]

So let me get this straight. Bell has lied, stalled, taken hostage the rb position (didn't work), wants to coach himself and devise game plans that suit his fancy. He tweets out from a jet ski while his team mates are busting their asses. This on the heels of his raps and vids of how he deserves the moon and mars as well.

Lets assume the best case scenario for the steelers - they make it to the SB with Bell as a backup. Even better case scenario the steelers win.

You all want bell to get a ring for sitting on a jet ski in florida for the bulk of the season? A season where he didn't do jack shit for and he gets a ring for riding the pine or 10 snaps a game as a decoy?

If anything happens to Conner, you will shit yourself thanking God Bell is on the roster.

Hell, he'll make plays at RB/WR to help us win games soon after he gets back on the field.

Bell may be a c*nt, but he's one helluva football player.

All the guys on the NFL Network (former players) all agreed that Bell will be welcomed with open arms. Immediately.

Go ahead and take a gander at our schedule the rest of the way. We're gonna need all the help we can get.

For starters COR-TEN, if the Steelers could win the SB I could care less whether Bell gets a ring or not. If he contributes to the title, good for him - if not, there are plenty of guys who will get a ring that contributed little or nothing. The key is finding a way to get # 7 !!

On to KC

- Totally agree - If Conner goes down I’d be much happier with Lev coming in than any other option we’d have.

- I have no idea how much he can / will contribute at RB or WR but I have no heartburn if he can add anything substantive to our arsenal.

- Agree on the first part of your statement - Bell is a (fill in the blank with just about any derogatory word). I can also agree that he HAS BEEN “one helluva” player in the past. That said, he has not taken a snap or participated on team activities since January so no one really knows what kind of shape he is in. Even if he worked at conditioning as hard on his own as he would have at practice, it’s not the same. I will add that he probably didn’t do as much to stay in shape as he would have with the team so that only adds to either the question marks or at best the time it takes him to get back to any semblance of his former self.

- Whether he gets welcomed with open arms depends on a lot of things; how does he act if / when he comes back? is he in shape? Is he willing to take whatever roll he is given without bitching? Handling any one of those badly could lead to locker room discourse and if he handles more than one of those poorly things could spiral quickly.

In my mind the key is to not screw up what has been working well. That means spell Conner with Bell if he is tired but don’t intentionally limit his carries - not unlike the Bus, in recent weeks he has been getting stringer as the game goes on and if his carries are significantly reduced he may not get to his “2nd half mode.” I’d also be fine using Bell as a receiver - the drop-off after Brown, Ju Ju and the TEs is significant and he can probably help out.

Still all comes down to whether he’s a Jagoff when he comes back. If he’s a team player things will be fine but if not it will get very interesting.

[K_C_]

Without a doubt Bell is a great football player.

That's where it ends.

Everyone that is siding with the Bell option is assuming he would step up if Conner gets hurt.

What did Bell gain by sitting out 10 games? Health Health Health He's reducing the impact or potential of injury and is relying on his PREVIOUS body of work to impress potential suitors.

Let's look at this in reverse. Sign the tag, play two or three amazing games...pull a hammy, collect a check and be 14.5M richer for doing so. He could have a nagging injury that during the off season is completely gone (all made up). Why is that not a good option? Injuries look bad. Potential suitors will think he's in the decline period of the career.

So the only real make sense situation is he is forgoing the compensation, signing in on week 10 or whatever magic date gives him season credit. Heck I'm not even sure he has to sign in at all, that is being discussed around the league. He knows if he gets hurt that next season is done. He only gets the super contract if he's healthy.

So in Bell we trust? Sorry, I don't see any situation where Bell benefits unless it's to clear the hurdle to get credit for the season and move on. Playing in the remaining games are not in his best interests.

For the Harrison Superbowl ring comparison statement. That's Pats giving him a ring because he went to them. If Gronk came to us because he was fed up with the Pats, plays two games, we win the Superbowl...yep, I'll be super happy about that ring ceremony. It's apples and oranges. Bell has put the "possibility" of a future pay day above all of his teammates. At a minimum, be honest with everything and all these message threads go away.

Potential suitors are going to want to see how Bell performs the rest of the way.

It's not out of the question Bell dogs it, but I SERIOUSLY DOUBT he will. Too much to lose.

I expect the exact opposite. Bell is going to want to look better than Conner and he's going to want to shine as bright as he possibly can.

Why would a team like the Raiders or Jets want to break the fucking bank for somebody who isn't giving 100% and tearing it up on the field?

[W&M_Steeler]

Why would a team like the Raiders or Jets want to break the fucking bank for somebody who isn't giving 100% and tearing it up on the field?

Because they're shitty bottom-feeders that tend to make poor decisions. That's really what Bell is banking on- that he'd get some shitty team to overpay for him based on name value and the reputation he built in 2014. James Conner's performance has hurt him in that regard, as James' fantastic performance this year has taken away some of Bell's shine. But he still might be better off dogging it, coasting off his reputation, and avoiding injury for the rest of this year than he would be if would come in and suffer a significant injury. The Raiders and Jets and Bucs and Redskins of the world might talk themselves into overlooking Bell's contentious 2018 and over pay a healthy Bell anyway (in the mold of a Albert Haynesworth type signing). They might not do that if Bell plays in 2018 and blows up his ankle or knee and there are lingering health concerns.

[bradshaw2ben]

Fing SteelersDepot Dave blocked me for calling him out for being petty and rude with Missi Matthews or AK... basically, he cut and pasted a deleted tweet... something she realized was wrong and deleted... just so that he could call her stupid. I suggested that he'd better prepare himself for the inevitable deluge of tweets the next time he posts something at odds with the facts.

Big Ben 7 blocked me-- ME, of all people... the internet's leading supporter of Ben, who has taken it as a personal crusade to set the record straight and be his advocate... they blocked me for god-knows-what.

If a Ben Roethlisberger twitter account and the guy who copied my show (imitation is the sincerest form of flattery) can block me, anybody can block anybody.

Did I ever tell you the chick who runs Ben’s twitter account PMs me?. She’s a fan.

Not of me, apparently lol

[COR-TEN]

. . . If he contributes to the title, good for him - if not, there are plenty of guys who will get a ring that contributed little or nothing.

Like who? If somebody gets signed because of injury, that's different. Guys on the team that aren't seeing any live action are doing their part as backups or PS players or scout team. . . Think of the context and how we got to this point.

- I have no idea how much he can / will contribute at RB or WR but I have no heartburn if he can add anything substantive to our arsenal.

I doubt he would add much of anything unless conner gets hurt. It's all pure speculation at this point. Nobody knows what shape he's in, and he has a history of taking 3-4 games of getting EVERY SNAP to get into football shape and speed. If you can use the word "speed" with Bell. They'd need him right at the most critical time.

Who would pay what, $6M for a backup? What if conner doesn't get hurt and Bell sees 8 snaps a game. For 6 games? That's $125,000 per snap. Thats fucking offensive and insults everyone on the team. That's one helluva'n insurance policy.

The issue for me is that neither samuels nor ridley has seen much action at all. If bell contributes as much as those guys, who the fuck needs him?

[bradshaw2ben]

Fing SteelersDepot Dave blocked me for calling him out for being petty and rude with Missi Matthews or AK... basically, he cut and pasted a deleted tweet... something she realized was wrong and deleted... just so that he could call her stupid. I suggested that he'd better prepare himself for the inevitable deluge of tweets the next time he posts something at odds with the facts.

Big Ben 7 blocked me-- ME, of all people... the internet's leading supporter of Ben, who has taken it as a personal crusade to set the record straight and be his advocate... they blocked me for god-knows-what.

If a Ben Roethlisberger twitter account and the guy who copied my show (imitation is the sincerest form of flattery) can block me, anybody can block anybody.

Maybe he was a bit...creeped out?

[K_C_]

Why would a team like the Raiders or Jets want to break the fucking bank for somebody who isn't giving 100% and tearing it up on the field?

Because they're shitty bottom-feeders that tend to make poor decisions. That's really what Bell is banking on- that he'd get some shitty team to overpay for him based on name value and the reputation he built in 2014. James Conner's performance has hurt him in that regard, as James' fantastic performance this year has taken away some of Bell's shine. But he still might be better off dogging it, coasting off his reputation, and avoiding injury for the rest of this year than he would be if would come in and suffer a significant injury. The Raiders and Jets and Bucs and Redskins of the world might talk themselves into overlooking Bell's contentious 2018 and over pay a healthy Bell anyway (in the mold of a Albert Haynesworth type signing). They might not do that if Bell plays in 2018 and blows up his ankle or knee and there are lingering health concerns.

Players will tell you that the easiest way to get hurt is by not going all out and trying to avoid an injury.

We'll see though.

The Jets and Raiders might be stupid enough not to care.

Best way for them to break the bank though, is to watch Bell run wild and catch all kinds of passes.

[Legacy User]

I am not local but Missy is a little hottie. There is another local girl who has a name like Aditi? who I thought pissed off Ben for talking shit.

[COR-TEN]

I am not local but Missy is a little hottie. There is another local girl who has a name like Aditi? who I thought pissed off Ben for talking shit.

Weird. I think she's not very attractive at all, looks homey, and has about as much charisma/ personality as wet cardboard.

[Legacy User]

All the guys on the NFL Network (former players) all agreed that Bell will be welcomed with open arms.

Because we all know that former players are never wrong about anything.

[Stillerz Bar]

. . . If he contributes to the title, good for him - if not, there are plenty of guys who will get a ring that contributed little or nothing.

Like who? If somebody gets signed because of injury, that's different. Guys on the team that aren't seeing any live action are doing their part as backups or PS players or scout team. . . Think of the context and how we got to this point.

- I have no idea how much he can / will contribute at RB or WR but I have no heartburn if he can add anything substantive to our arsenal.

I doubt he would add much of anything unless conner gets hurt. It's all pure speculation at this point. Nobody knows what shape he's in, and he has a history of taking 3-4 games of getting EVERY SNAP to get into football shape and speed. If you can use the word "speed" with Bell. They'd need him right at the most critical time.

Who would pay what, $6M for a backup? What if conner doesn't get hurt and Bell sees 8 snaps a game. For 6 games? That's $125,000 per snap. Thats fucking offensive and insults everyone on the team. That's one helluva'n insurance policy.

The issue for me is that neither samuels nor ridley has seen much action at all. If bell contributes as much as those guys, who the fuck needs him?

What it really comes down to for me is the Steelers getting # 7 - if that means Bell getting a ring then I don't care as that is better than Bell not getting one because the Steelers failed in the playoffs again. Given the choice my preference would be ring to the Steelers and none for Lev but in truth the issue of whether Bell gets a ring or not is a total non factor to me- it's about the bigger picture.

Where I think we can agree is:
- Yes, guys on the squad do contribute even if we don't see it on Sundays (or Thursdays).
- I am totally aligned with you on this one "It's all pure speculation at this point. Nobody knows what shape he's in, and he has a history of taking 3-4 games of getting EVERY SNAP to get into football shape and speed. If you can use the word "speed" with Bell." I will be surprised if he is in good enough shape to contribute quickly but the sooner the better in my book.

Question for those in the know - if they give him the 2-week waiting period, can they make him practice during that time? If so I would run the heck out of him every day to see if he really still has anything.

[jebrick]

Why would a team like the Raiders or Jets want to break the fucking bank for somebody who isn't giving 100% and tearing it up on the field?

Because they're shitty bottom-feeders that tend to make poor decisions. That's really what Bell is banking on- that he'd get some shitty team to overpay for him based on name value and the reputation he built in 2014. James Conner's performance has hurt him in that regard, as James' fantastic performance this year has taken away some of Bell's shine. But he still might be better off dogging it, coasting off his reputation, and avoiding injury for the rest of this year than he would be if would come in and suffer a significant injury. The Raiders and Jets and Bucs and Redskins of the world might talk themselves into overlooking Bell's contentious 2018 and over pay a healthy Bell anyway (in the mold of a Albert Haynesworth type signing). They might not do that if Bell plays in 2018 and blows up his ankle or knee and there are lingering health concerns.

Players will tell you that the easiest way to get hurt is by not going all out and trying to avoid an injury.

We'll see though.

The Jets and Raiders might be stupid enough not to care.

Best way for them to break the bank though, is to watch Bell run wild and catch all kinds of passes.

I think the Raider brass is cheap right now to save money. I really do not see them spending even $10M per year on a RB.

My bet now is the Steelers will sign him because they will put an offer on the table and it will be the best one by far.

[Ice]

What on God's green earth would be their incentive to do that?

[K_C_]

All the guys on the NFL Network (former players) all agreed that Bell will be welcomed with open arms.

Because we all know that former players are never wrong about anything.

They sorta know about locker rooms a shit ton better than either you or I do.

Shocker, I know.