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Re: Nelson wants to be traded

Post by Stallworth16 » Sat Mar 20, 2021 10:35 pm

Will the Steelers make the playoffs in 2021?

Before free agency I was at about 75% on the playoffs. Now I’m at about 50%. That’s not to say that I think the Steelers will suck but a lot of new starters will have to step up in a big way, or we may be struggling yet again.

As far as Steven Nelson, he’s another quality starter that I didn’t even consider losing. Depot has an article about how Sutton’s role is part of this.



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Post by bradshaw2ben » Sat Mar 20, 2021 11:27 pm

Stallworth16 wrote:
Sat Mar 20, 2021 10:35 pm
Will the Steelers make the playoffs in 2021?

Before free agency I was at about 75% on the playoffs. Now I’m at about 50%. That’s not to say that I think the Steelers will suck but a lot of new starters will have to step up in a big way, or we may be struggling yet again.

As far as Steven Nelson, he’s another quality starter that I didn’t even consider losing. Depot has an article about how Sutton’s role is part of this.
depot is so so far behind the news on this.

Nelson’s interest in being paid like a top 5 CB is the only driving thing for this news. If anything, James Pierre’s development impacts Nelson’s situation more than Sutton does.
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Post by stillthere » Sat Mar 20, 2021 11:34 pm

cop1211 wrote:
Sat Mar 20, 2021 10:26 pm
Did Adoree Jackson sucked that’s why he was cut???
I think it has to do more with him getting hurt and missing time the last 2 seasons.

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Post by Ice » Sun Mar 21, 2021 12:15 pm

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Sat Mar 20, 2021 5:05 am
Juju signing and Nelson news are unrelated. I believe they want to extend Belson to make another move. JUju came back for a minimal amount over the vet minimum.
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Post by Scunge » Sun Mar 21, 2021 8:15 pm

Honestly? I think if they want to trade Nelson it is probably to free up money to make a play to sign Big Al to keep him at LT. I bet Colbert/Tomlin/Ben, all of them are bedwetting over the thought of a rookie LT, or an inexperienced Chuks or Banner starting at LT for the first time.

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Post by Charles Demarr » Sun Mar 21, 2021 11:35 pm

Ice wrote:
Sun Mar 21, 2021 12:15 pm
bradshaw2ben wrote:
Sat Mar 20, 2021 5:05 am
Juju signing and Nelson news are unrelated. I believe they want to extend Nelson to make another move. JuJu came back for a minimal amount over the vet minimum.
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Post by steelmann58 » Mon Mar 22, 2021 1:16 am

jackson looking togo to the GMen

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Post by bradshaw2ben » Mon Mar 22, 2021 1:20 am

steelmann58 wrote:
Mon Mar 22, 2021 1:16 am
jackson looking togo to the GMen
Well, the Giants want him... we'll see.
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Post by steelmann58 » Mon Mar 22, 2021 2:22 am

someone suggested a Trade for Ertez

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Post by RemoAZ » Mon Mar 22, 2021 3:17 am

steelmann58 wrote:
Mon Mar 22, 2021 2:22 am
someone suggested a Trade for Ertez
I'd be happy with that. Resign James, cut Ebron and draft a better blocker late or sign one in FA. TE is fixed and you don't have to worry about it with any of your high picks. Sutton then gets to earn his money as a starter.
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Post by Jobu » Mon Mar 22, 2021 3:52 am

steelmann58 wrote:
Mon Mar 22, 2021 2:22 am
someone suggested a Trade for Ertez
Steven Nelson for Zach Ertz ...sounds fair to me.

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Post by Ice » Mon Mar 22, 2021 6:33 am

Jobu wrote:
Mon Mar 22, 2021 3:52 am
steelmann58 wrote:
Mon Mar 22, 2021 2:22 am
someone suggested a Trade for Ertez
Steven Nelson for Zach Ertz ...sounds fair to me.
Eagles could use help at the position.
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Post by Steeldrama » Mon Mar 22, 2021 12:50 pm

If we’re looking to acquire past their prime Stanford guys then I say bring in Richard Sherman to offset the loss of Nelson.
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Post by DP39 » Mon Mar 22, 2021 12:56 pm

steelmann58 wrote:
Mon Mar 22, 2021 2:22 am
someone suggested a Trade for Ertez
I don't know if Ertz was hurt, extremely disgruntled and gave up or what. But last year he looked like he dropped off a cliff, skill-wise. He was flat out terrible (compared to where he was before. I know he wants out of Philly (maybe to be closer to his wife in CHI, I think) and wants a new big contract (Mo'Money).

If we got the Ertz of old and our OC/Ben used him correctly, I would do it. Otherwise, no thanks.

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Post by Jobu » Mon Mar 22, 2021 1:10 pm

DP39 wrote:
Mon Mar 22, 2021 12:56 pm
steelmann58 wrote:
Mon Mar 22, 2021 2:22 am
someone suggested a Trade for Ertez
I don't know if Ertz was hurt, extremely disgruntled and gave up or what. But last year he looked like he dropped off a cliff, skill-wise. He was flat out terrible (compared to where he was before. I know he wants out of Philly (maybe to be closer to his wife in CHI, I think) and wants a new big contract (Mo'Money).

If we got the Ertz of old and our OC/Ben used him correctly, I would do it. Otherwise, no thanks.
Well Ertz did miss 5 games in 2020, plus his QB situation was a mess. In 17, 18, and 19 he was pretty darn good. Just saying...

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Post by Thrillsseeker » Mon Mar 22, 2021 2:13 pm

Jobu wrote:
Mon Mar 22, 2021 1:10 pm
DP39 wrote:
Mon Mar 22, 2021 12:56 pm
steelmann58 wrote:
Mon Mar 22, 2021 2:22 am
someone suggested a Trade for Ertez
I don't know if Ertz was hurt, extremely disgruntled and gave up or what. But last year he looked like he dropped off a cliff, skill-wise. He was flat out terrible (compared to where he was before. I know he wants out of Philly (maybe to be closer to his wife in CHI, I think) and wants a new big contract (Mo'Money).

If we got the Ertz of old and our OC/Ben used him correctly, I would do it. Otherwise, no thanks.
Well Ertz did miss 5 games in 2020, plus his QB situation was a mess. In 17, 18, and 19 he was pretty darn good. Just saying...

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q ... xRXC13_NlQ
Not to mention the screaming matches in the building between him and the GM couldn’t help the situation.

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Post by Smashmouth21 » Mon Mar 22, 2021 2:52 pm

Thrillsseeker wrote:
Mon Mar 22, 2021 2:13 pm
Jobu wrote:
Mon Mar 22, 2021 1:10 pm
DP39 wrote:
Mon Mar 22, 2021 12:56 pm


I don't know if Ertz was hurt, extremely disgruntled and gave up or what. But last year he looked like he dropped off a cliff, skill-wise. He was flat out terrible (compared to where he was before. I know he wants out of Philly (maybe to be closer to his wife in CHI, I think) and wants a new big contract (Mo'Money).

If we got the Ertz of old and our OC/Ben used him correctly, I would do it. Otherwise, no thanks.
Well Ertz did miss 5 games in 2020, plus his QB situation was a mess. In 17, 18, and 19 he was pretty darn good. Just saying...

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q ... xRXC13_NlQ
Not to mention the screaming matches in the building between him and the GM couldn’t help the situation.
No way I’d spend cap money the team doesn’t have (or even consider blowing draft capital) on Zach Ertz. He just doesn’t move the needle nearly enough for me.

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Post by Jobu » Mon Mar 22, 2021 3:12 pm

If you acquire Ertz, you can immediately shit can Eric Ebron.
Ertz can catch, he can block, and he’s not a social media big mouth...win, win, win.
So, Ertz for Nelson is a wash, cap wise. Cutting Ebron gives you 5.5 mil.
Of course it’s not going to happen, just something to talk about, I guess.

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Post by stillthere » Tue Mar 23, 2021 6:07 pm

Steelers cut Nelson.
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Post by Orangesteel » Tue Mar 23, 2021 6:09 pm

I don’t get it.
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Post by stillthere » Tue Mar 23, 2021 6:11 pm

Orangesteel wrote:
Tue Mar 23, 2021 6:09 pm
I don’t get it.


This is nelson's tweet shortly before the steelers tweet announcing the termination of his contract
Steve Nelson
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Making a public announcement is a little out of my character, but you guys made your decision please don’t hold me hostage #dontholdmeback
1:18 PM · Mar 23, 2021·Twitter for iPhone

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Post by Stosh-67 » Tue Mar 23, 2021 6:17 pm

Not smart operation of a football team.
You need to get a draft pick for Nelson.
I don't care if he asked to be traded.

Can't tell me a team with cap space did not want a starting CB.
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Post by Minkah'n Big Plays » Tue Mar 23, 2021 6:21 pm

Stosh-67 wrote:
Tue Mar 23, 2021 6:17 pm
Not smart operation of a football team.
You need to get a draft pick for Nelson.
I don't care if he asked to be traded.

Can't tell me a team with cap space did not want a starting CB.
I don't know. It seems like this hostage bullshit is happening a lot with this team recently.

Sick about hearing players complain when they don't get a new contract.

Why can't these guys play out their contracts anymore? Not like he's a stud...yes, of course we don't have any depth now, something we finally were able to achieve recent years.

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Post by Pabst » Tue Mar 23, 2021 6:22 pm

Stosh-67 wrote:
Tue Mar 23, 2021 6:17 pm
Not smart operation of a football team.
You need to get a draft pick for Nelson.
I don't care if he asked to be traded.

Can't tell me a team with cap space did not want a starting CB.
Nelson can effectively veto a trade by refusing to report to his new team. If he's disgruntled and won't play without a new contract, then the Steelers would need to find a trade partner AND have Nelson agree to new terms. Pretty much killed his value.

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Post by Pabst » Tue Mar 23, 2021 6:26 pm

stillthere wrote:
Tue Mar 23, 2021 6:11 pm
This is nelson's tweet shortly before the steelers tweet announcing the termination of his contract
Steve Nelson
@Nelson_Island
Making a public announcement is a little out of my character, but you guys made your decision please don’t hold me hostage #dontholdmeback
1:18 PM · Mar 23, 2021·Twitter for iPhone


Also Steven Nelson:
Steve Nelson
@Nelson_Island
I left kc bc I didn’t want to be there bum they offered what makes you mfs think they didn’t I didn’t like the system so I left
Steve Nelson
@Nelson_Island
Mfs think they was in them contract talks hilarious just shows how racist that city was


Nelson was taking shots at the Chiefs for over a year after he left: https://www.kansascity.com/sports/spt-c ... 263046.htm

Spare me the "I'm not usually like this" BS.

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Post by Pabst » Tue Mar 23, 2021 6:29 pm

One last thing: This saves $8.25m against the cap.

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Post by 955876 » Tue Mar 23, 2021 6:38 pm

you guys made your decision please don’t hold me hostage
1) you also made a decision back when you signed the contract that stated you would be paid X amount for X number of years of service. Thus far, the team has honored their end of the contract. It’s you changing the terms and making demands.

Honor your contract cunt.

2) A hostage is someone held against their will and were likely taken into captivity by force. Hostages are not employees with multi-million dollar contracts. Contracts which they signed under their own free will and under the guidance of their agent/attorney.

Honor your contract cunt.

And fuck this team for caving to these demands over and over.

The “standard” for how to get out of Pitt is well known and becoming often used.
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Post by DP39 » Tue Mar 23, 2021 6:38 pm

While we save the necessary cap space (only a few places left to get any meaningful amount), it sucks that we couldn't get a draft pick for him.

Trades and draft value (trading or working the comp system) are certainly not strong suits for our PS. :(

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Post by K_C_ » Tue Mar 23, 2021 6:38 pm

Losing Alualu, Dupree, Williams, Hilton and Nelson?

Second toughest schedule in the league?

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Post by DP39 » Tue Mar 23, 2021 6:42 pm

955876 wrote:
Tue Mar 23, 2021 6:38 pm
you guys made your decision please don’t hold me hostage
1) you also made a decision back when you signed the contract that stated you would be paid X amount for X number of years of service. Thus far, the team has honored their end of the contract. It’s you changing the terms and making demands.

Honor your contract cunt.

2) A hostage is someone held against their will and were likely taken into captivity by force. Hostages are not employees with multi-million dollar contracts. Contracts which they signed under their own free will and under the guidance of their agent/attorney.

Honor your contract cunt.

And fuck this team for caving to these demands over and over.

The “standard” for how to get out of Pitt is well known and becoming often used.
^^^^this

The Steelers organization lets some players walk all over them. They're usually weak negotiators, imo. Anything to keep the peace, I guess.

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