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[955876]

Why call Tomlin a wordsmiff instead of a wordsmith? I’m simply guessing here, but I’d wager that’s the concern. Is it racist? Ehhh, personally not going to paint the barn that color. Is it in poor taste? I’d say yes. But I don’t think your intent is bad or racist.

Tomlin says Smiff instead of Smith.

My mom says woof instead of wolf.

I’m citing language.

You and others see race or color associated with those words.

And I’m the racist here. Ok. I’m not saying you are calling me one.

Is Tomlin not a word fucking Smith?

Does Tomlin not say Smiff instead of Smith?

Now I have a white fucking hood for putting 2 & 2 together??

Tough crowd. If I lived in Salem I might already be on fire. The pitchforks out.

But I already stated why some of that is so.

[955876]

Also, what a weird toy!

Hey I don’t think I had one…

But we all remember them. At least us old fucks do.

[franco32]

Calling someone a racist is a huge deal. Do you really want to be the person that tosses that term around with no proof and trying to infer seven hidden layers of meaning in a word or phrase? I don't think that's the world you or anyone else wants to live in.

[Texas Black & Gold]

Calling someone a racist is a huge deal. Do you really want to be the person that tosses that term around with no proof and trying to infer seven hidden layers of meaning in a word or phrase? I don't think that's the world you or anyone else wants to live in.

Sadly, that is where society is at these days.

[Professor Half Wit]

Why call Tomlin a wordsmiff instead of a wordsmith? I’m simply guessing here, but I’d wager that’s the concern. Is it racist? Ehhh, personally not going to paint the barn that color. Is it in poor taste? I’d say yes. But I don’t think your intent is bad or racist.

Tomlin says Smiff instead of Smith.

My mom says woof instead of wolf.

I’m citing language.

You and others see race or color associated with those words.

And I’m the racist here. Ok. I’m not saying you are calling me one.

Is Tomlin not a word fucking Smith?

Does Tomlin not say Smiff instead of Smith?

Now I have a white fucking hood for putting 2 & 2 together??

Tough crowd. If I lived in Salem I might already be on fire. The pitchforks out.

But I already stated why some of that is so.

I don’t think your intent is racist or malicious. I was only expressing my opinion on why someone might raise eyebrows at wordsmiff.

Aren’t only two pitchforks out? My guess is the vast majority of regular posters, myself included, don’t think you’re racist or being racist with these phrases.

The idea that the intent of the speaker should not matter when evaluating his language and only how it makes the listener feel is dangerous.

My wife says “gonnoo” instead of going to. Drives me fucking nuts!

[Deebo]

Calling someone a racist is a huge deal. Do you really want to be the person that tosses that term around with no proof and trying to infer seven hidden layers of meaning in a word or phrase? I don't think that's the world you or anyone else wants to live in.

It's no different than what Myles Garrett did.
Fucking disgusting

[SteelerDayTrader]

Lolololz

You all know what you are doing

[Professor Half Wit]

Lolololz

You all know what you are doing

Lolololol

You know what you’re doing, too.

[Ice]

Hopped on, saw this thing had ballooned to 3 pages and thought there was some traction on the new OC thing. Disappointingly, not so much.

[DP39]

Calling someone a racist is a huge deal. Do you really want to be the person that tosses that term around with no proof and trying to infer seven hidden layers of meaning in a word or phrase? I don't think that's the world you or anyone else wants to live in.

It's no different than what Myles Garrett did.
Fucking disgusting

This ^^^ exactly!

Garrett is a piece of shit and deep down inside he knows it, and he has to live with that. I can only hope he admits his lie and grows from his major character flaw, but I have my doubts.

As far as 95 goes, I've never felt he was racist -- but then again, some folks on here have tried to pull that same shit with me (although, via more veiled attempts).

What I do think I have in common with 95 is, through our varied life experiences, we are both very much realist. We "call a spade a spade." Rut roe .... I just said what? This phrase itself is a perfect example of ignorant idiots that can't wait to throw out the "racist" card. I've grown tired of their simplistic whining (and it adds to why I feel Garrett (and Smollett) is a piece of shit). I've always known the true origin of the phrase, but was reminded of it by my pastor (not that I should have to mention it, but yes, he happens to be a black man, whom I admire) through his sermon, just a few short weeks ago.

By being, probably, the first person on here to call out Tomlin for being the BS artist that I'd come to learn (through first hand conversation with folks related to him and others that grew up with him) he is, I got plenty of flack early on -- some delivered by the 'your just a racist' idiots out there. As I've stated many times (although, I shouldn't have to if it weren't for those Smollett loving types out there) I was raised to not "see" color. Visually, I'm an uber-observant person, so of course I see color, but I don't judge or react to it. Oddly enough, my wife and I raised our daughter the same way, and I can only assume that's why her four college housemates consist of an Asian, Indian, Columbian and Pakistani/British combo young ladies. The one thing they ALL have in common is that they're all really good people -- something we, as a family, do place major importance on.

Are there racist people in the world? Yes, of course there are. Are there folks out there that throw out the unwarranted "your a racist" card all too often? You betcha. And in my mind, they're just as bad -- maybe worse (they say two wrongs don't make a right).

This ultra, scream in your face, shove it down your throat, anti-racist America we live in now is not the answer. And the media plays a HUGE role in this. But that's just my opinion.

Mods...wasn't trying to be political, but more so wanted to point out/add to what I see here in this thread, and how my my previous experiences compare with what it appears 95 might be going through here.

[955876]

I’m sure if the mods actually read through the content and progression the thread they will see (1) STD made a stupid comment and (2) Stinger comes along to throw gas on that fire in a very cunty way.

As is pretty typical, I had no hand in starting this and said nothing inflammatory to provoke any of it.

And when challenged, neither could come up with a single example other than duh Jibbs and derrrrrr Wordsmiff.

The origins of both explained plenty already. And will continue to be used as I’ll not have benign comments twisted into being racial slurs when they clearly are not.

Funny thing is, for being such a vile racist it certainly is strange that I never uttered a negative word about the man over the course of his first several seasons. Many seasons in fact.

I think the first time I was actually critical of him at all was after the horrendous “zero coverage” in OT against Denver in 2012.

Didn’t really start banging on him hard for a few more seasons after that.

Odd I went sooo many years supporting him and liking him a lot.

That was until I realized he was full of hot damn air and was little more than a catchphrase.

People like Stinger are simply following the lead of some really pathetic individuals who are trying to use race as a tool to fragment this country.

Anyways, thanks to those that spoke out in support of me. Appreciated.

Maybe the thread can go back to OC talk now. Unless of course piss drinkers such as Stinger have more baseless accusations to hurl completely unprovoked.

[955876]

We "call a spade a spade." Rut roe .... I just said what?

Yep.

I do have to admit I did not know the origin of the term. Just looked it up. Zero to do with race.

To call a fig a fig and a trough a trough.

Later translated to spade. And by spade it was in reference to the gardening tool.

And yet years later the dandelions want to change the meaning of things to fit their ugly narrative.

[gojira5150]

Yes yes. History is full of POC being called “wordsmiff”.

I’m going to ask my black friends and relatives how many times in their lives someone has hurled that racial slur at them.

I’m guesssing oh never.

Tomlin is a master wordsmith.

Tomlin calls Danny Smith “”Danny Smiff”. So I changed it up to wordsmiff.

Would you not have such great menstrual cramps if I instead simply said wordsmith?

My mother is a part Italian. She can’t say the word wolf and says woof.

If I tease my mom for not being able to say wolf properly is that being racist toward Italians?

Or just my mom who says wolf funny?

I'm Biracial and I knew what you meant by wordsmiff. It is NOT racist. Tomlin baffles with BS using his wordsmiffing skills. He's an idiot and should have been fired after the J'Ville playoff loss with Blake Bortles. 95 is not racist. I am getting sick and tired of people using the term racist where there is none.
You do know there are Black folks who are very racist towards White's.

[Deebo]

Yes yes. History is full of POC being called “wordsmiff”.

I’m going to ask my black friends and relatives how many times in their lives someone has hurled that racial slur at them.

I’m guesssing oh never.

Tomlin is a master wordsmith.

Tomlin calls Danny Smith “”Danny Smiff”. So I changed it up to wordsmiff.

Would you not have such great menstrual cramps if I instead simply said wordsmith?

My mother is a part Italian. She can’t say the word wolf and says woof.

If I tease my mom for not being able to say wolf properly is that being racist toward Italians?

Or just my mom who says wolf funny?

I'm Biracial and I knew what you meant by wordsmiff. It is NOT racist. Tomlin baffles with BS using his wordsmiffing skills. He's an idiot and should have been fired after the J'Ville playoff loss with Blake Bortles. 95 is not racist. I am getting sick and tired of people using the term racist where there is none.
You do know there are Black folks who are very racist towards White's.

Well of course there are. Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson wouldn't exist otherwise