Preseason is over, time to make OFFICIAL season predictions

[Legacy User]

with all the bedwetting that goes on every week from the usual suspects, many weren't too far off in this thread

Easier to read than, "Have fun in Arizone Ben, you deserve better than us"

Anyone that declared the season over at any point during the season was just being silly due to all the youth on the roster.

But this was no more silly than declaring the season a victory beforehand based on potential.

I agree, those who give up too soon are no fun, but the rose colored glasses folks who don't know they are wearing them can be just as unpleasant.[/quote

This quote just doesn't make sense on a Steeler's Fan site.

There are fans who believe the Steelers did not win 6 Lombardi trophies because they are lucky.

There are fans who believe the Steeler Core values work.

Saying that we are "unpleasant" just blows my mind.

Having some faith in your team is not unpleasant, it is called "being an optimistic fan with history to back it up".

[BethlehemSteel]

Plain and simple, we are a spoiled fanbase. the rest is opinions like assholes.

I'll stand by this statement against anyone!!

[Legacy User]

with all the bedwetting that goes on every week from the usual suspects, many weren't too far off in this thread

Easier to read than, "Have fun in Arizone Ben, you deserve better than us"

Anyone that declared the season over at any point during the season was just being silly due to all the youth on the roster.

But this was no more silly than declaring the season a victory beforehand based on potential.

I agree, those who give up too soon are no fun, but the rose colored glasses folks who don't know they are wearing them can be just as unpleasant.[/quote

This quote just doesn't make sense on a Steeler's Fan site.

There are fans who believe the Steelers did not win 6 Lombardi trophies because they are lucky.

There are fans who believe the Steeler Core values work.

Saying that we are "unpleasant" just blows my mind.

Having some faith in your team is not unpleasant, it is called "being an optimistic fan with history to back it up".

The revisionism never ceases to amaze. Are you saying that you were upbeat after being demolished in the Hoyer Bowl? I think there weren't a lot of people expecting young players doing much because of the Sweeds Mendenhalls Hoods and the like. Also it didn't look like Munchak had much of an effect. So all this youth and being coached up is something new and unexpected in the Tomlin era of coaching Cah'rs players to victory. As was the return of Deebo which almost exclusively I might add switched me immediately from negative to positive on the season. Face it, so much unexpected happen that neither side of the fan base was right. The season unfolded in amazing and unexpected ways.

Unleashing Deebo unleashing Marty Bryant, unleashing Tuitt etc. I doubt anyone would had foreseen all that. This must be what its like for a cellar dweller to suddenly be in the World's Series.

[R_S]

So I've learned the key to the Steelers success as a team this year, was Jarvis Jones breaking his wrist. That was the catalyst of everything....

[Legacy User]

So I've learned the key to the Steelers success as a team this year, was Jarvis Jones breaking his wrist. That was the catalyst of everything....

u betcha, Jervis and his magic wrist.

[K_C_]

So I've learned the key to the Steelers success as a team this year, was Jarvis Jones breaking his wrist. That was the catalyst of everything....

Good point, I'm sure that if Jervis didn't hurt himself, he would have had a Deebo-like impact later in the season.



I tried writing that with a straight face, I really did!!

[Legacy User]

Reality is the QB play got better, OL play got better, and run game got better. This team doesn't win on defense, regardless of who starts. And when they do, its because of the game the DC called. Not individual effort

[K_C_]

Reality is the QB play got better, OL play got better, and run game got better. This team doesn't win on defense, regardless of who starts. And when they do, its because of the game the DC called. Not individual effort

Don't worry, man. Jervis has that "illusion of pressure" thing DOWN.

Dick Lebeau taught him well.

Deebo does it a little different.

It's a little bit outside the box, Deebo's approach.

He does this thing where he actually pressures QB's by getting near them. Real quick-like.

But Jervis is on schedule for an extension. Don't worry.

[Legacy User]

Up next, comparing Stephon Tuitt to Richard Seymour

[K_C_]

Up next, comparing Stephon Tuitt to Richard Seymour

2 things:

Tuitt is a rookie and Jervis isn't.

James Harrison is nearing 40 years old and came in off the street to jump start our pass rush.

[V DUB]

2014 - Rollercoaster Season
10-6 with a Wildcard

1 September 7 1:00 p.m. Cleveland Browns - Win
2 September 11 8:25 p.m. at Baltimore Ravens - Win
3 September 21 8:30 p.m. at Carolina Panthers - Win
4 September 28 1:00 p.m. Tampa Bay Buccaneers -Win
5 October 5 1:00 p.m. at Jacksonville Jaguars - Win
6 October 12 1:00 p.m. at Cleveland Browns -Win
7 October 20 8:30 p.m. Houston Texans - Loss
8 October 26 4:25 p.m. Indianapolis Colts -Loss
9 November 2 8:30 p.m. Baltimore Ravens - Loss
10 November 9 1:00 p.m. at New York Jets - Win
11 November 17 8:30 p.m. at Tennessee Titans -Win
12 Bye
13 November 30 1:00 p.m. New Orleans Saints -Loss
14 December 7 1:00 p.m. at Cincinnati Bengals -Loss
15 December 14 1:00 p.m. at Atlanta Falcons - Loss
16 December 21 1:00 p.m. Kansas City Chiefs -Win
17 December 28 1:00 p.m. Cincinnati Bengals - Win

Almost precognitive...

[Legacy User]

Up next, comparing Stephon Tuitt to Richard Seymour

2 things:

Tuitt is a rookie and Jervis isn't.

James Harrison is nearing 40 years old and came in off the street to jump start our pass rush.

So wft is your point? That Jarvis Jones can never be a productive NFL player?

Or after 11 career starts your football genius can see he'll never amount to anything?

Put your teeth in, state your case, then have a seat

[V DUB]

I thought Jarvis had a pretty good game last week, despite not having a great Madden rating.

[Legacy User]

In 2005, the Steelers were an inconsistent 6-6 before they went on that historic run.

In 2008, the Steelers were destroyed by the Eagles in the REGULAR season.

Sure I was down after the Clowns creamed us. I saw the bully finally getting beat up. (Kinda like the Christmas Story). But, I don't get too down on the Steeler organization because I believe they have a formula that they stay true to which more times that not, results in a good football team.

[Havoc]

In 2005, the Steelers were an inconsistent 6-6 before they went on that historic run.

In 2008, the Steelers were destroyed by the Eagles in the REGULAR season.

Sure I was down after the Clowns creamed us. I saw the bully finally getting beat up. (Kinda like the Christmas Story). But, I don't get too down on the Steeler organization because I believe they have a formula that they stay true to which more times that not, results in a good football team.

The comparisons to 2005 are a poor one. Drastically different teams. And the 2005 team was 7-5, not 6-6.

In 2004, we were 15-1 rs. In the 2 seasons prior to 2014, we were 8-8.

The 2005 team had a proven defense with a HOFer in his prime, and a proven OL.

[Legacy User]

I'm going 7-9.

I wish I could be more optimistic. But main differences I see between this year and last is a downgrade at WR and a slight upgrade in pass rush.

BR is only one player...I think there is a chance that lack of speed and physicality everywhere but RB makes for a chance of a historically bad offense.

I have some hope for the defense. There isn't many starts here...to my mind the big plays vs this defense have really been 15 yard plays enhanced by deception...not physically overwhelmed. If the offense isn't a complete shit show I can see this being a 9-7 team with an ascending defense come playoffs.

BUT...I'm completely underwhelmed and disappointed in Heyward and Decastro. Shit grades for what they should be considering where they were at...not at all the until the whistle, fundamentally sound pro bowl types I was expecting. I understand "only the preseason" but these are the two main guys needed to set the tone up front this year.

I also view season ending injury to BR, AB, OLB, and OT as lose 7 to 9 of 10 catastrophic.

But I'm really hoping to be wrong...

I miss Zivco's trolling.

[Legacy User]

In 2005, the Steelers were an inconsistent 6-6 before they went on that historic run.

In 2008, the Steelers were destroyed by the Eagles in the REGULAR season.

Sure I was down after the Clowns creamed us. I saw the bully finally getting beat up. (Kinda like the Christmas Story). But, I don't get too down on the Steeler organization because I believe they have a formula that they stay true to which more times that not, results in a good football team.

The comparisons to 2005 are a poor one. Drastically different teams. And the 2005 team was 7-5, not 6-6.

In 2004, we were 15-1 rs. In the 2 seasons prior to 2014, we were 8-8.

The 2005 team had a proven defense with a HOFer in his prime, and a proven OL.

It's definitely more fun to be a debbie downer, jump the bridge type than optimistic.

[Havoc]

In 2005, the Steelers were an inconsistent 6-6 before they went on that historic run.

In 2008, the Steelers were destroyed by the Eagles in the REGULAR season.

Sure I was down after the Clowns creamed us. I saw the bully finally getting beat up. (Kinda like the Christmas Story). But, I don't get too down on the Steeler organization because I believe they have a formula that they stay true to which more times that not, results in a good football team.

The comparisons to 2005 are a poor one. Drastically different teams. And the 2005 team was 7-5, not 6-6.

In 2004, we were 15-1 rs. In the 2 seasons prior to 2014, we were 8-8.

The 2005 team had a proven defense with a HOFer in his prime, and a proven OL.

It's definitely more fun to be a debbie downer, jump the bridge type than optimistic.

I'm not that kind of fan. Never have been. And there is nothing in that post that would indicate that.

I don't blindly wave pom poms either though. I'm not saying there is anything wrong with that. It does not make for interesting discussion though.

A lot of the concern and discussion over the course of this season was legit. It's interesting that many of the adjustments the coaching staff made on both sides of the football over the course of this season were called for by many on this site.

[86n96]

Up next, comparing Stephon Tuitt to Richard Seymour

2 things:

Tuitt is a rookie and Jervis isn't.

James Harrison is nearing 40 years old and came in off the street to jump start our pass rush.

after turning down an opportunity to play for BA in the desert. he could've played elsewhere, but didn't want to be away from his boys. you don't get to use the "off the street" argument like no one wanted him.

and, yes, jones isn't a rookie, but has yet to play a full season...6 in one hand, you know the rest.

[R_S]

Up next, comparing Stephon Tuitt to Richard Seymour

2 things:

Tuitt is a rookie and Jervis isn't.

James Harrison is nearing 40 years old and came in off the street to jump start our pass rush.

So wft is your point? That Jarvis Jones can never be a productive NFL player?

Or after 11 career starts your football genius can see he'll never amount to anything?

Put your teeth in, state your case, then have a seat

Come on IC, with historic passing performances from Ben, game breaking plays by a rookie WR, AB having arguably the best season as any WR in the league, Bell emerging as a top 2 back, Timmons playing his ass off, Tuitt emerging as a rook, and a young O-line starting to put it all together, without Jarvis breaking his wrist, this team doesn't sniff the playoffs.

[Legacy User]

I really liked the Tomlin hire, but after the whole stepping on the field thing, added to unleashing hell and other bullshit I was starting to doubt (probably hanging around here too much) but I am really starting to believe in this team and it's a whole lot more fun than vilifying them.

[Legacy User]

2 things:

Tuitt is a rookie and Jervis isn't.

James Harrison is nearing 40 years old and came in off the street to jump start our pass rush.

So wft is your point? That Jarvis Jones can never be a productive NFL player?

Or after 11 career starts your football genius can see he'll never amount to anything?

Put your teeth in, state your case, then have a seat

Come on IC, with historic passing performances from Ben, game breaking plays by a rookie WR, AB having arguably the best season as any WR in the league, Bell emerging as a top 2 back, Timmons playing his ass off, Tuitt emerging as a rook, and a young O-line starting to put it all together, without Jarvis breaking his wrist, this team doesn't sniff the playoffs.

Well Tuitt, all I can say that was due to the shrewd FA aquisition of one Cam Thomas. Tombert knew that Big Herp would suck so much that Beard would break down just in time for Tuitt to graduate early from DL tech. Why in fact Deebo wasn't resigned last year because they knew they would sign him this year on the cheap skate because they knew one of Jervis's heavy hands would fall off this year before they even drafted him last year, Super Genius!!!

[Legacy User]

My point is not that the 2014 team is like the 2005 or 2008 teams.

My point is there was significant obstacles to overcome in those Super Bowl years.

I don't think we are winning the Lombardi this year. But I have always stayed consistent that this team is trending up and we need to back them versus whine about every little issue.

Waaah Beachum < Joe Thomas
Waaah Archer is a wasted pick
Waaah Troy is fat.

If you don't see the game threads as a whine fest, then good for you guys.
I read them because I'm a diehard fan but I must admit I feel many of you remind me
of my 88 year old mother-in-law.
I

[Havoc]

My point is not that the 2014 team is like the 2005 or 2008 teams.

My point is there was significant obstacles to overcome in those Super Bowl years.

Point taken, 65

It's been amazing to watch it all unfold. I'm really fired up for tonight.

[86n96]

I really liked the Tomlin hire, but after the whole stepping on the field thing, added to unleashing hell and other bullshit I was starting to doubt (probably hanging around here too much) but I am really starting to believe in this team and it's a whole lot more fun than vilifying them.

you don't actually think he stepped in front of jones on purpose, do you? he was given way to much shit for being conniving, when it was really just a boneheaded mistake.

[K_C_]

Up next, comparing Stephon Tuitt to Richard Seymour

2 things:

Tuitt is a rookie and Jervis isn't.

James Harrison is nearing 40 years old and came in off the street to jump start our pass rush.

So wft is your point? That Jarvis Jones can never be a productive NFL player?

Or after 11 career starts your football genius can see he'll never amount to anything?

Put your teeth in, state your case, then have a seat

"Productive NFL player?" Kevin Colbert himself said Jervis was brought in MOST IMPORTANTLY to rush the passer.

He's been beyond fucking underwhelming in that aspect and you fucking know it.

Jervis is okay at setting the edge. He's meh in coverage and he's been all-out SHITTY rushing the passer.

You know, the most important job a Steeler OLB has? Yeah, that.

I have no idea what Jervis will be like next year. I only comment on what I've already seen happen on the field.

Sound familiar?

[Legacy User]

you didn't answer my question

was he expected to be the best pass rusher on the team in his first 11 starts?

Or do you think that statement was intended for the run through the prime of his career?

just don't bother

[K_C_]

you didn't answer my question

was he expected to be the best pass rusher on the team in his first 11 starts?

Or do you think that statement was intended for the run through the prime of his career?

just don't bother

Was he supposed to be better than Jason Worilds by now?

As the 17th overall player drafted who Kevin Colbert himself said was brought in MOST IMPORTANTLY to rush the passer?

You bet your ass he's supposed to be the best pass rusher on the team by now, sport.

Maybe that'll happen in year three.

Now go back over to the Ben needing 318 yards thread and act like you didn't blame him for everything that went wrong throughout this whole season.

[Legacy User]

#instantvalidity

I get it, he sucks. Move on with your life. Definitely no Tyler Eifert, right champ?

[K_C_]

#instantvalidity

I get it, he sucks. Move on with your life. Definitely no Tyler Eifert, right champ?

Eifert isn't a Pittsburgh Steelers player.

Who cares what he does?

Both Jervis and Eifert have sucked a fat cock.

But that's the type of player Jervis should be compared to I guess.