Tomlin might have found his qb

[Professor Half Wit]

The deep ball not great for Kaleb Eleby, but everything else is. Wonder how far down the totem pole he could be scooped up.

I was just coming here to laugh at Eleby being included. I don't think he's an NFL-quality prospect. Below the Duck Hodges line

I get that you have actually to watch these people play football. But the charting numbers are interesting.

[bradshaw2ben]

Zappe & Kelley are a pretty easy comparison: they played in the same conference in FCS:

Bailey Zappe vs the Southland Conference/FCS:
32 starts 759/1262 8171 yds 63TDs 38INT
83.3 rating 60.14% 6.47 YPA TD% 5.0 INT% 3.0

C Kelley vs the Southland/FCS
16 starts 563/786 7112 yds 59TDs 12INT
118.1 rating 71.635% 9.05 YPA TD% 7.5 Int% 1.5

[Greeksteel]

Tommy Jaggi
@TommyJaggi
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4h
Based on what I've heard, it really sounds like Liberty QB Malik Willis is the goal for #Steelers in the NFL Draft.

However, I think he played himself out of their range at pick 20, and Pittsburgh may have to move up in order to take him.

Good Lord, shoot me now.

[jebrick]

Tommy Jaggi
@TommyJaggi
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4h
Based on what I've heard, it really sounds like Liberty QB Malik Willis is the goal for #Steelers in the NFL Draft.

However, I think he played himself out of their range at pick 20, and Pittsburgh may have to move up in order to take him.

Good Lord, shoot me now.

Nightmare scenario.

[bradshaw2ben]

Tommy Jaggi
@TommyJaggi
·
4h
Based on what I've heard, it really sounds like Liberty QB Malik Willis is the goal for #Steelers in the NFL Draft.

However, I think he played himself out of their range at pick 20, and Pittsburgh may have to move up in order to take him.

Good Lord, shoot me now.

Nightmare scenario.

According to an NFL source as told to me:
"Steelers had a deal in place to move up to 17 for Justin Fields. This year, Tomlin said, "I'm not missing out on Justin Fields again."

[Greeksteel]

Good Lord, shoot me now.

Nightmare scenario.

According to an NFL source as told to me:
"Steelers had a deal in place to move up to 17 for Justin Fields. This year, Tomlin said, "I'm not missing out on Justin Fields again."

Give me Penning in the 1st and Devonte Wyatt in the 2nd...if you absolutely must take a qb in this draft roll the dice on Ridder in the 3rd

[Kodiak.]

According to an NFL source as told to me:
"Steelers had a deal in place to move up to 17 for Justin Fields. This year, Tomlin said, "I'm not missing out on Justin Fields again."

Give it a year or two and Fields will be available for peanuts

[Dan Smith--BYU]

The NBA equivalent of I'm not missing out on Justin Fields again is I'm not missing out on Cam Reddish again.

[RemoAZ]

According to an NFL source as told to me:
"Steelers had a deal in place to move up to 17 for Justin Fields. This year, Tomlin said, "I'm not missing out on Justin Fields again."

Give it a year or two and Fields will be available for peanuts

If that quote is true, it sounds like we already have our new GM in place. I wonder if he'll get a raise so he's the highest paid coach in the league over Belichik.

[Kodiak.]

If that quote is true, it sounds like we already have our new GM in place. I wonder if he'll get a raise so he's the highest paid coach in the league over Belichik.

This theory will get you excited: Whether by choice or otherwise, Tomlin may not have more than 3 years left. He NEEDS to grab a franchise QB in this draft. At all costs.

[RemoAZ]

If that quote is true, it sounds like we already have our new GM in place. I wonder if he'll get a raise so he's the highest paid coach in the league over Belichik.

This theory will get you excited: Whether by choice or otherwise, Tomlin may not have more than 3 years left. He NEEDS to grab a franchise QB in this draft. At all costs.

True. He may have the rope to hang himself now. In glass half full perspective, maybe he sees that he needs to take a higher level view and actually hires coordinators to run the show on the field.

[Jobu]

According to an NFL source as told to me:
"Steelers had a deal in place to move up to 17 for Justin Fields. This year, Tomlin said, "I'm not missing out on Justin Fields again."

Give it a year or two and Fields will be available for peanuts

If that quote is true, it sounds like we already have our new GM in place. I wonder if he'll get a raise so he's the highest paid coach in the league over Belichik.

C’mon now…we all know this. They’ll “promote” Kahn or Hunt, or both, but Shades will be calling the shots.
And don’t be shocked when Colbert comes out of retirement and lands another GM gig.

[steelmann58]

Nightmare scenario.

According to an NFL source as told to me:
"Steelers had a deal in place to move up to 17 for Justin Fields. This year, Tomlin said, "I'm not missing out on Justin Fields again."

Give me Penning in the 1st and Devonte Wyatt in the 2nd...if you absolutely must take a qb in this draft roll the dice on Ridder in the 3rd

I agree but take Strong or Kelly later

[jebrick]

I think the HC of any team should/is picking the players. The GM should be presenting him with the players that the HC and his asst coaches say that they want. Now if the GM can't convince a HC that they are picking a bad player then that is on the GM to do better. The coaches are relying on the scouts to find the players that fit what they want. The GM is in charge of the scouts and narrows it down then they all sit in a room and decide. For the Steelers, I think their crappy/small scouting unit is an issue. That narrows down what is presented to the coaches and GM.

[JackLambert58]

If that quote is true, it sounds like we already have our new GM in place. I wonder if he'll get a raise so he's the highest paid coach in the league over Belichik.

This theory will get you excited: Whether by choice or otherwise, Tomlin may not have more than 3 years left. He NEEDS to grab a franchise QB in this draft. At all costs.

It does. Even Tomlin he royally fucks up the team by getting Willis, it'll be worth to get rid of him as quickly as possible.

[Mick]

I think the HC of any team should/is picking the players. The GM should be presenting him with the players that the HC and his asst coaches say that they want. Now if the GM can't convince a HC that they are picking a bad player then that is on the GM to do better. The coaches are relying on the scouts to find the players that fit what they want. The GM is in charge of the scouts and narrows it down then they all sit in a room and decide. For the Steelers, I think their crappy/small scouting unit is an issue. That narrows down what is presented to the coaches and GM.

that sounds like saying “teams should draft on a need-basis, not BPA, and the primary decision maker should be someone with no background in scouting and limited time available to assess college prospects.”

Disagree. Coaches should have a lot of input on positional priorities, and seats at the table when ranking out the draft board, and probably veto power.

[Professor Half Wit]

I think the HC of any team should/is picking the players. The GM should be presenting him with the players that the HC and his asst coaches say that they want. Now if the GM can't convince a HC that they are picking a bad player then that is on the GM to do better. The coaches are relying on the scouts to find the players that fit what they want. The GM is in charge of the scouts and narrows it down then they all sit in a room and decide. For the Steelers, I think their crappy/small scouting unit is an issue. That narrows down what is presented to the coaches and GM.

that sounds like saying “teams should draft on a need-basis, not BPA, and the primary decision maker should be someone with no background in scouting and limited time available to assess college prospects.”

Disagree. Coaches should have a lot of input on positional priorities, and seats at the table when ranking out the draft board, and probably veto power.

Nothing Jebrick urges conflicts with picking BPA, though. The team has a big board. According to Jebrick’s posture, HC could be presented with suggested BPA at each pick.

[jebrick]

I think the HC of any team should/is picking the players. The GM should be presenting him with the players that the HC and his asst coaches say that they want. Now if the GM can't convince a HC that they are picking a bad player then that is on the GM to do better. The coaches are relying on the scouts to find the players that fit what they want. The GM is in charge of the scouts and narrows it down then they all sit in a room and decide. For the Steelers, I think their crappy/small scouting unit is an issue. That narrows down what is presented to the coaches and GM.

that sounds like saying “teams should draft on a need-basis, not BPA, and the primary decision maker should be someone with no background in scouting and limited time available to assess college prospects.”

Disagree. Coaches should have a lot of input on positional priorities, and seats at the table when ranking out the draft board, and probably veto power.

The way I understand it, the coaches have meetings with the scouts and tell them what they are looking for in a player. Scouts then have to find players that fit those bills. All of those players are filtered through the GM and he narrows them down or puts them in order. Coaches then start meeting to put their big board together.

As it has been reported, in the Steeler war room, Tomlin has a large say in the 1st round pick. OC and DC get a big say in 2nd and 3rd round. Day 3 is position coaches making their cases.

There are quite a few things that can go bad in this. Coaches not being able to articulate what they want or not really knowing what they want. Scouts not able to judge players based on what the coaches want. The Gm being a bad judge of players. I am totally ignoring the picks as that is a crap shoot if everything above works as planned.

[franco32]

Oh yeah, we can't miss out on 58% completion with 7 TDs and 10 INTs again. What on earth would we do?

I am fortunate enough to have an 83 inch Sony Oled TV. I love that TV. I honestly believe I'd throw the remote at that TV if we traded up for Willis.

[beerbrother]

If that quote is true, it sounds like we already have our new GM in place. I wonder if he'll get a raise so he's the highest paid coach in the league over Belichik.

This theory will get you excited: Whether by choice or otherwise, Tomlin may not have more than 3 years left. He NEEDS to grab a franchise QB in this draft. At all costs.

True. He may have the rope to hang himself now. In glass half full perspective, maybe he sees that he needs to take a higher level view and actually hires coordinators to run the show on the field.

Seems I remember reading something from a Pittsburgh reporter, maybe Dulac or Lolley, about Tomlin wanting a vet at QB.

Steelers don't want to spoil Tomlin's, "never had a losing season", which they consider a significant achievement.

It wouldn't surprise me if they don't draft a QB this year.

However, if Tomlin falls in love with a prospect, his family, college, upbringing or cool nickname (most important item on draft list), then the Steelers will run to the Podium an entire round early to get his guy.

If he can't get his guy then there will be widespread panic in their war room. Resulting in over drafting some marginal player.

A couple thoughts:

- Will Tomlin's FOMO lead to drafting a crappy QB?
- Which coaches are helping Tomlin assess QBs? Canada?
- Is the QB being drafted for the scheme of the offensive coordinator? How long will the OC last?
- Is a QB being drafted as a built-in-excuse for a "non-winning season"?
- If Colbert had a 1st round grade on Mason is he even capable of making a fair evaluation on a franchise QB?

[955876]

Jibbs finding a QB???

I’m just hoping he finds an abacus or calculator or something to help him navigate the extreme complexity of the two minute clock.

Finding a QB??? Jibbs needs to master the bunny hill before trying to climb Everest.

[franco32]

Jibbs finding a QB???

I’m just hoping he finds an abacus or calculator or something to help him navigate the extreme complexity of the two minute clock.

Finding a QB??? Jibbs needs to master the bunny hill before trying to climb Everest.

I'm still waiting for the clock management expert to be hired. Weren't we going to have a coach dedicated to that a couple years ago? My 12 year old on Madden could do it. He'd be happy with 15 bucks an hour

[955876]

He'd be happy with 15 bucks an hour

He will have to settle for $12.50.

$15 bucks an hour is reserved for the position coaches. Coordinators get $20.

[steelmann58]

I thought that was part of Austin job to help with that

[Jobu]

I thought that was part of Austin job to help with that

He’s probably been too busy coaching up the secondary. Now, if he gets promoted to defensive coordinator, he should have plenty of spare time on his hands.

[RemoAZ]

Not sure if this has be shared:
Malik Willis' Film Is A Big, Beautiful, Mess
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FpYGaGq ... anchiseGuy

[franco32]

Not sure if this has be shared:
Malik Willis' Film Is A Big, Beautiful, Mess
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FpYGaGq ... anchiseGuy

Tomlin would look at that mess and think.. I can coach him up!

[DP39]

Not sure if this has be shared:
Malik Willis' Film Is A Big, Beautiful, Mess
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FpYGaGq ... anchiseGuy

Tomlin would look at that mess and think.. I can coach him up!

What Tomlin really thinks when he sees Willis.....

"Let's see.....NFL bloodlines. Met family....cool. Wow, that was a lot of work; I'm done. I don't care what it costs, make it happen KC. Okay, time to work on some 'film watching' and my wordsmiffin' for a little bit."....."I'm so F'n smart and cool."

[langer]

MW: Coach any chance we scrub tape together? I have a lot of questions.

CTTMT: um, we have faith in you to be honest.

MW: oh, ok

[Jobu]

MW: Coach any chance we scrub tape together? I have a lot of questions.

CTTMT: um, we have faith in you to be honest.

MW: oh, ok

That’s some awesome coaching, right there!
Cool Shades is a coaching trendsetter!