LolololzSteelperch wrote: ↑Tue Sep 10, 2024 3:25 pmDon’t give Tomlin any ideas. Imagine the money he could spend on defense if they just direct snap the ball to the RB every play and cut the QB out entirely.
Who should start at QB next week
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I don't think Herbig is big enough to replace Highsmith but I could be wrong on that. Seems to me like we'd have to draft Highsmith's successor if he were to be traded but if he doesn't pick up his game in a major way, I would have no problem seeing Highsmith moved.gojira5150 wrote: ↑Tue Sep 10, 2024 4:13 pmHighsmith has not performed the way he's paid. 2022 he had an awesome season. Since then, he hasn't done much. They should look to trade him for a WR,K_C_ wrote: ↑Tue Sep 10, 2024 3:59 pmStarting to seriously wonder if Highsmith was worth the money. I mean, he’s a good player but with Watt across from him garnering a shitload of attention and still getting to the QB, Highsmith seems to shine in one or 2 games per year and is too often invisible.zeke5123 wrote: ↑Tue Sep 10, 2024 3:08 pm
I would love to get both Watt and Highsmith down to roughly 80% of the defensive snaps with Nick Herbig getting about 40%. I think Herbig is good enough that going all out for 40% of the edge snaps that you are still getting good snaps while you take some wear and tear off of Watt / Highsmith.
I like Highsmith but he should be doing a lot more than he is.
He's good but again, for all the attention Watt gets, Highsmith should accidentally get 10+ sacks per year just for lining up across from Watt, easily.
While Herbig is probably destined to be a situational pass rusher, I do not think it would be very hard to replace Alex Highsmith if her were to be dealt.
Hopefully he proves me wrong and ends this season with 16 sacks and several game changing plays.
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Tomlin says they are prepping for Fields to start. Won’t commit but that’s what he said.
This is all very annoying to me. It’s not a rational or mature reaction on my part, but I am still highly annoyed. All because Wilson was using a blocking sled at the beginning of camp.
Expect another 16-10 or 17-13 shootout borefest where TJ Watt literally has to play like the love-child of Lawrence Taylor and Aaron Donald just to give us a chance.
Awesome!
This is all very annoying to me. It’s not a rational or mature reaction on my part, but I am still highly annoyed. All because Wilson was using a blocking sled at the beginning of camp.
Expect another 16-10 or 17-13 shootout borefest where TJ Watt literally has to play like the love-child of Lawrence Taylor and Aaron Donald just to give us a chance.
Awesome!
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Seems like the success they had running, was at Highsmith and the left side.
With the way TJ plays, all out, every ounce, every play,....and his potential to getting dinged-up.
I do not think you can be deep enough at OLB.
Maybe we trounce Denver, we can see if they want to move Cortland Sutton?
And by trounce, I mean the Steelers score like 20 something points....
Maybe even into the mid 20's
21? and 21 the hard way........ = 7 FGs
Not so sure we have to give up as much for this guy.
Be nice to get him with draft picks and not A.H.
Sutton is 28, be 29 in a month.
Only once in his 6 years has he had 70+ catches.
Only one 1,000+ yard season.
24 TD......with only 14 in his first 5 years....with the big year last year, 10 with Russ.
6'-4" Sutton
6'-3" GP
Roman Wilson
and CA3 used properly will make the WR room look soo much better in week 4 or 5.
2025 2nd round pick for Sutton?
A future 4th added?
With the way TJ plays, all out, every ounce, every play,....and his potential to getting dinged-up.
I do not think you can be deep enough at OLB.
Maybe we trounce Denver, we can see if they want to move Cortland Sutton?
And by trounce, I mean the Steelers score like 20 something points....
Maybe even into the mid 20's
21? and 21 the hard way........ = 7 FGs
Not so sure we have to give up as much for this guy.
Be nice to get him with draft picks and not A.H.
Sutton is 28, be 29 in a month.
Only once in his 6 years has he had 70+ catches.
Only one 1,000+ yard season.
24 TD......with only 14 in his first 5 years....with the big year last year, 10 with Russ.
6'-4" Sutton
6'-3" GP
Roman Wilson
and CA3 used properly will make the WR room look soo much better in week 4 or 5.
2025 2nd round pick for Sutton?
A future 4th added?
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I think the Steelers are in an interesting position next April. We have 2 5th rounders and 3 7th rounders along with a full slate of other picks (we'll see what pick Chicago takes from us for Fields.)Stosh-67 wrote: ↑Tue Sep 10, 2024 4:36 pmSeems like the success they had running, was at Highsmith and the left side.
With the way TJ plays, all out, every ounce, every play,....and his potential to getting dinged-up.
I do not think you can be deep enough at OLB.
Maybe we trounce Denver, we can see if they want to move Cortland Sutton?
And by trounce, I mean the Steelers score like 20 something points....
Maybe even into the mid 20's
21? and 21 the hard way........ = 7 FGs
Not so sure we have to give up as much for this guy.
Be nice to get him with draft picks and not A.H.
Sutton is 28, be 29 in a month.
Only once in his 6 years has he had 70+ catches.
Only one 1,000+ yard season.
24 TD......with only 14 in his first 5 years....with the big year last year, 10 with Russ.
6'-4" Sutton
6'-3" GP
Roman Wilson
and CA3 used properly will make the WR room look soo much better in week 4 or 5.
2025 2nd round pick for Sutton?
A future 4th added?
Sutton would be more interesting to me if we had a young franchise QB and we needed more weapons for him ASAP in a modern day offense.
In this offense that Arthur Smith runs, I think I stay put.
We very, very possibly will be drafting a QB in round 1 with obviously WR and DL being in the mix for rounds 2 and 3.
You could still get a big time WR in the second or 3rd round that could immediately step in as a starter and if somehow pigs fly and Fields shows us he's good enough to be the starter going forward, you could pair a monster like Pickens with a first round WR and REALLY have defenses shitting themselves.
This team might be a playoff team as it's currently constructed but you and me both know they aren't competing for a Super Bowl. I don't think adding Cortland Sutton puts us in that conversation but I could be wrong on that.
I would prefer to see how this year plays out and look to add several good players through the draft, especially a QB, WR and DL help for Benton and maybe Heyward if he is in the picture next year.
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exactlyJobu wrote: ↑Sun Sep 08, 2024 11:33 pmI just have to laugh if you think that the offense is gonna be any different with Russ. What we saw today is exactly what Tomlin wants from the QB. 150-200ish yards, take care of the ball, control the clock. Who needs TDs?
Today’s game was a Mike Tomlin wet dream.
but its quite the dilemma
fields is the best fit for the exclusibley ball control crap O and he is younger so maybe somehow he grows and turns into decent QB. BUT, fields is likely more turnover prone and MT hates that
WIlson is less dynamc and likely takes more sacks but can hand-off, dump-off and throw boundary fades just fine with minimal turnovers
My guess is Mikey picks door 2 when WIlson is ready
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No thank you. Herbig is good and fun in spots and situations. He cannot set the edge for prolonged periods of time. He does have exceptional closing speed which teams and QBs do not really understand yet but he cannot be an every-down guy on the edge.gojira5150 wrote: ↑Tue Sep 10, 2024 4:13 pmHighsmith has not performed the way he's paid. 2022 he had an awesome season. Since then, he hasn't done much. They should look to trade him for a WR,K_C_ wrote: ↑Tue Sep 10, 2024 3:59 pmStarting to seriously wonder if Highsmith was worth the money. I mean, he’s a good player but with Watt across from him garnering a shitload of attention and still getting to the QB, Highsmith seems to shine in one or 2 games per year and is too often invisible.zeke5123 wrote: ↑Tue Sep 10, 2024 3:08 pm
I would love to get both Watt and Highsmith down to roughly 80% of the defensive snaps with Nick Herbig getting about 40%. I think Herbig is good enough that going all out for 40% of the edge snaps that you are still getting good snaps while you take some wear and tear off of Watt / Highsmith.
I like Highsmith but he should be doing a lot more than he is.
Given Herbig is most likely just a situational pass rusher on the outside, could he be transitioned inside?
He’s bigger than all our MLB aside from Wilson and with his speed could bring a nice inside pass rush like we had back in the Chad Brown days.
Just rollin this off the top of my head.
He’s bigger than all our MLB aside from Wilson and with his speed could bring a nice inside pass rush like we had back in the Chad Brown days.
Just rollin this off the top of my head.
I agree Herbig isn't an every down OLB but he's incredible depth behind Watt, especially as a pass rusher (obviously and things of that nature.)stillthere wrote: ↑Wed Sep 11, 2024 10:49 pmNo thank you. Herbig is good and fun in spots and situations. He cannot set the edge for prolonged periods of time. He does have exceptional closing speed which teams and QBs do not really understand yet but he cannot be an every-down guy on the edge.gojira5150 wrote: ↑Tue Sep 10, 2024 4:13 pmHighsmith has not performed the way he's paid. 2022 he had an awesome season. Since then, he hasn't done much. They should look to trade him for a WR,K_C_ wrote: ↑Tue Sep 10, 2024 3:59 pm
Starting to seriously wonder if Highsmith was worth the money. I mean, he’s a good player but with Watt across from him garnering a shitload of attention and still getting to the QB, Highsmith seems to shine in one or 2 games per year and is too often invisible.
I like Highsmith but he should be doing a lot more than he is.
That said, Highsmith better pick up his play in a major way or I could see the Steelers drafting his successor next season after trading his ass.
I like Alex Highsmith but he should be doing a lot more than he is right now.
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Highsmith isn't doing that great of a job setting the edge either. I am going to copy and paste from the great StillMill. U may not like him, but his assessment on Alex is correct.stillthere wrote: ↑Wed Sep 11, 2024 10:49 pmNo thank you. Herbig is good and fun in spots and situations. He cannot set the edge for prolonged periods of time. He does have exceptional closing speed which teams and QBs do not really understand yet but he cannot be an every-down guy on the edge.gojira5150 wrote: ↑Tue Sep 10, 2024 4:13 pmHighsmith has not performed the way he's paid. 2022 he had an awesome season. Since then, he hasn't done much. They should look to trade him for a WR,K_C_ wrote: ↑Tue Sep 10, 2024 3:59 pm
Starting to seriously wonder if Highsmith was worth the money. I mean, he’s a good player but with Watt across from him garnering a shitload of attention and still getting to the QB, Highsmith seems to shine in one or 2 games per year and is too often invisible.
I like Highsmith but he should be doing a lot more than he is.
Highsmith – 2nd & 3, second play of game – ATL ran right at Big Alex, who meekly went low and whiffed, with the RB cruising by for 3 yards and the 1st down. Flagged for a blatant offsides, 1st series. Got walled off the next play on an off tackle run, good for 13 yards. Far too slow in coverage on Robinson, 2d series, which resulted in an easy 9-yard catch & run. 2nd & 3 at ATL 35, 2Q – Queen blew up a ground play, and Big Alex got an assist on a routine play.
3Q, 4th & 1 – Big Alex got BURIED, with his dik in the dirt, allowing an easy run around end for TEN NE yards. This, is lewzing football by a complete lewzer. At 7:45 3Q, Big Alex got credit for a cheezy Assist, in which he flailed at the RB legs and the real stop was made by Lary Ogun, after a SEVEN yard gain, no less. On the next play, Big Alex got another slop assist, on a play in which Watt made 94% of the actual tackle. On the final play of the 3Q, ATL ran a toss sweep, and Big Alex got sealed off like a ziplock baggie, allowing Robinson to cruise around end for a five yard gainer. Sure enough, you’ll hear fables about how big and vaunted Alex is, although plays like this show exactly the opposite.
Midway thru the 4Q, Big Alex came in, UNBLOCKED, and tipped a swing pass by Cousins. Quick – lavish this man with another 6 years of extension !! What a dominant, he-man play ! lmao On the next series, ATL ran a toss sweep left. Big Alex got suckered inside, and then meekly just WAVED at the ballcarrier as he cruised past for THIRTEEN yards. Sure enough, Alex managed to jump onto the stack for a slop assist, but not after he’d embarrassed himself with such weakling wave.
In all, Big Alex had ONE solo and 4 weak-azzed slop assists. ZERO pressure on the QB all game long. All this, for $17M per year (he got restructured this past offseason, but you get the drift.) D
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The Steelers are most certainly monitoring Highsmith closely.gojira5150 wrote: ↑Thu Sep 12, 2024 5:33 pmHighsmith isn't doing that great of a job setting the edge either. I am going to copy and paste from the great StillMill. U may not like him, but his assessment on Alex is correct.stillthere wrote: ↑Wed Sep 11, 2024 10:49 pmNo thank you. Herbig is good and fun in spots and situations. He cannot set the edge for prolonged periods of time. He does have exceptional closing speed which teams and QBs do not really understand yet but he cannot be an every-down guy on the edge.gojira5150 wrote: ↑Tue Sep 10, 2024 4:13 pm
Highsmith has not performed the way he's paid. 2022 he had an awesome season. Since then, he hasn't done much. They should look to trade him for a WR,
Highsmith – 2nd & 3, second play of game – ATL ran right at Big Alex, who meekly went low and whiffed, with the RB cruising by for 3 yards and the 1st down. Flagged for a blatant offsides, 1st series. Got walled off the next play on an off tackle run, good for 13 yards. Far too slow in coverage on Robinson, 2d series, which resulted in an easy 9-yard catch & run. 2nd & 3 at ATL 35, 2Q – Queen blew up a ground play, and Big Alex got an assist on a routine play.
3Q, 4th & 1 – Big Alex got BURIED, with his dik in the dirt, allowing an easy run around end for TEN NE yards. This, is lewzing football by a complete lewzer. At 7:45 3Q, Big Alex got credit for a cheezy Assist, in which he flailed at the RB legs and the real stop was made by Lary Ogun, after a SEVEN yard gain, no less. On the next play, Big Alex got another slop assist, on a play in which Watt made 94% of the actual tackle. On the final play of the 3Q, ATL ran a toss sweep, and Big Alex got sealed off like a ziplock baggie, allowing Robinson to cruise around end for a five yard gainer. Sure enough, you’ll hear fables about how big and vaunted Alex is, although plays like this show exactly the opposite.
Midway thru the 4Q, Big Alex came in, UNBLOCKED, and tipped a swing pass by Cousins. Quick – lavish this man with another 6 years of extension !! What a dominant, he-man play ! lmao On the next series, ATL ran a toss sweep left. Big Alex got suckered inside, and then meekly just WAVED at the ballcarrier as he cruised past for THIRTEEN yards. Sure enough, Alex managed to jump onto the stack for a slop assist, but not after he’d embarrassed himself with such weakling wave.
In all, Big Alex had ONE solo and 4 weak-azzed slop assists. ZERO pressure on the QB all game long. All this, for $17M per year (he got restructured this past offseason, but you get the drift.) D
I don't know what kind of guaranteed money Highsmith has coming but dude better watch his ass.
I've been saying it for the last 2 years. With Watt getting SHITLOADS of attention from OC's every game, Highsmith should literally luck into 10 sacks per year.
This dude has definitely not blossomed the way many hoped when he got that big contract.
Starting to get real concerned.
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Resting on his laurels after that big contract?gojira5150 wrote: ↑Thu Sep 12, 2024 5:33 pmHighsmith isn't doing that great of a job setting the edge either. I am going to copy and paste from the great StillMill. U may not like him, but his assessment on Alex is correct.stillthere wrote: ↑Wed Sep 11, 2024 10:49 pmNo thank you. Herbig is good and fun in spots and situations. He cannot set the edge for prolonged periods of time. He does have exceptional closing speed which teams and QBs do not really understand yet but he cannot be an every-down guy on the edge.gojira5150 wrote: ↑Tue Sep 10, 2024 4:13 pm
Highsmith has not performed the way he's paid. 2022 he had an awesome season. Since then, he hasn't done much. They should look to trade him for a WR,
Highsmith – 2nd & 3, second play of game – ATL ran right at Big Alex, who meekly went low and whiffed, with the RB cruising by for 3 yards and the 1st down. Flagged for a blatant offsides, 1st series. Got walled off the next play on an off tackle run, good for 13 yards. Far too slow in coverage on Robinson, 2d series, which resulted in an easy 9-yard catch & run. 2nd & 3 at ATL 35, 2Q – Queen blew up a ground play, and Big Alex got an assist on a routine play.
3Q, 4th & 1 – Big Alex got BURIED, with his dik in the dirt, allowing an easy run around end for TEN NE yards. This, is lewzing football by a complete lewzer. At 7:45 3Q, Big Alex got credit for a cheezy Assist, in which he flailed at the RB legs and the real stop was made by Lary Ogun, after a SEVEN yard gain, no less. On the next play, Big Alex got another slop assist, on a play in which Watt made 94% of the actual tackle. On the final play of the 3Q, ATL ran a toss sweep, and Big Alex got sealed off like a ziplock baggie, allowing Robinson to cruise around end for a five yard gainer. Sure enough, you’ll hear fables about how big and vaunted Alex is, although plays like this show exactly the opposite.
Midway thru the 4Q, Big Alex came in, UNBLOCKED, and tipped a swing pass by Cousins. Quick – lavish this man with another 6 years of extension !! What a dominant, he-man play ! lmao On the next series, ATL ran a toss sweep left. Big Alex got suckered inside, and then meekly just WAVED at the ballcarrier as he cruised past for THIRTEEN yards. Sure enough, Alex managed to jump onto the stack for a slop assist, but not after he’d embarrassed himself with such weakling wave.
In all, Big Alex had ONE solo and 4 weak-azzed slop assists. ZERO pressure on the QB all game long. All this, for $17M per year (he got restructured this past offseason, but you get the drift.) D
Highsmith is a mediocre robin to Watt's Batman. He's not resting on his laurels. He just isn't that talented. He's Clark Haggans esque.
Maybe he’s buddies with Lamar WoodleyResting on his laurels after that big contract?
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I don't think Highsmith has ever been as good as Woodley at his peak. Woodley looked like a future DPOY at on point.gojira5150 wrote: ↑Thu Sep 12, 2024 7:11 pm![]()
I was gonna say the exact same thing (great minds think alike). Woodley2.0
That's another what if for Steelers fans- what if Woodley kept playing at that level. Imagine peak Woodley in the 2010s instead of Jarvis Jones.
Yep…W&M_Steeler wrote: ↑Thu Sep 12, 2024 7:29 pmI don't think Highsmith has ever been as good as Woodley at his peak. Woodley looked like a future DPOY at on point.gojira5150 wrote: ↑Thu Sep 12, 2024 7:11 pm![]()
I was gonna say the exact same thing (great minds think alike). Woodley2.0
That's another what if for Steelers fans- what if Woodley kept playing at that level. Imagine peak Woodley in the 2010s instead of Jarvis Jones.
And even though he got fat & lazy, he did help us win a SB so can’t hate on him too much.
Now Barnaby Jones on the other hand…
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I skipped through a bunch of ya da ya da yadda yadda and I could give one fuck!!! I like Nick Herbig. I hope he is 6 man of the year in the NFL. #51 should not be starting but playing is the fun story. (That we all like)
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You found a few plays that don't shine well on Highsmith. If you find 3 plays a week to complain about then so be it. I am willing to wager that he has more than 3 plays where his shit is perfect and not even worth noting. Let's give "Big Alex" one more week to put some tape down. If Denver makes him look sloppy then that is on him.gojira5150 wrote: ↑Thu Sep 12, 2024 5:33 pmHighsmith isn't doing that great of a job setting the edge either. I am going to copy and paste from the great StillMill. U may not like him, but his assessment on Alex is correct.stillthere wrote: ↑Wed Sep 11, 2024 10:49 pmNo thank you. Herbig is good and fun in spots and situations. He cannot set the edge for prolonged periods of time. He does have exceptional closing speed which teams and QBs do not really understand yet but he cannot be an every-down guy on the edge.gojira5150 wrote: ↑Tue Sep 10, 2024 4:13 pm
Highsmith has not performed the way he's paid. 2022 he had an awesome season. Since then, he hasn't done much. They should look to trade him for a WR,
Highsmith – 2nd & 3, second play of game – ATL ran right at Big Alex, who meekly went low and whiffed, with the RB cruising by for 3 yards and the 1st down. Flagged for a blatant offsides, 1st series. Got walled off the next play on an off tackle run, good for 13 yards. Far too slow in coverage on Robinson, 2d series, which resulted in an easy 9-yard catch & run. 2nd & 3 at ATL 35, 2Q – Queen blew up a ground play, and Big Alex got an assist on a routine play.
3Q, 4th & 1 – Big Alex got BURIED, with his dik in the dirt, allowing an easy run around end for TEN NE yards. This, is lewzing football by a complete lewzer. At 7:45 3Q, Big Alex got credit for a cheezy Assist, in which he flailed at the RB legs and the real stop was made by Lary Ogun, after a SEVEN yard gain, no less. On the next play, Big Alex got another slop assist, on a play in which Watt made 94% of the actual tackle. On the final play of the 3Q, ATL ran a toss sweep, and Big Alex got sealed off like a ziplock baggie, allowing Robinson to cruise around end for a five yard gainer. Sure enough, you’ll hear fables about how big and vaunted Alex is, although plays like this show exactly the opposite.
Midway thru the 4Q, Big Alex came in, UNBLOCKED, and tipped a swing pass by Cousins. Quick – lavish this man with another 6 years of extension !! What a dominant, he-man play ! lmao On the next series, ATL ran a toss sweep left. Big Alex got suckered inside, and then meekly just WAVED at the ballcarrier as he cruised past for THIRTEEN yards. Sure enough, Alex managed to jump onto the stack for a slop assist, but not after he’d embarrassed himself with such weakling wave.
In all, Big Alex had ONE solo and 4 weak-azzed slop assists. ZERO pressure on the QB all game long. All this, for $17M per year (he got restructured this past offseason, but you get the drift.) D
"Fair"?
Over/under should be about 22 in this game.
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The Dolphins are going to need a QB
I'd trade whichever you could get more for, and roll with Allen as the primary backup
They probably won't do it, but they should.
Also, this assumes Russ doesn't have a no-trade clause, and is willing to go.
I'd trade whichever you could get more for, and roll with Allen as the primary backup
They probably won't do it, but they should.
Also, this assumes Russ doesn't have a no-trade clause, and is willing to go.
Fields will start in Denver.
If he balls out, Tomlin is gonna want to ride the hot hand and Russ will be expendable.
Tell the Dolphins you'll take a second rounder or bust for Russ.
They will probably sign Tannehill today. Ryan will start a week from Sunday and if it doesn't go well, Miami will be looking to make a trade.
If Miami doesn't look to make a trade then that means they are committed to a rebuild since Tua's career is probably over.
It'll be fire sale time in Miami and the whole league will try and trade for high priced veterans like Tyreek.
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Yep, to all of thatK_C_ wrote: ↑Fri Sep 13, 2024 11:52 amFields will start in Denver.
If he balls out, Tomlin is gonna want to ride the hot hand and Russ will be expendable.
Tell the Dolphins you'll take a second rounder or bust for Russ.
They will probably sign Tannehill today. Ryan will start a week from Sunday and if it doesn't go well, Miami will be looking to make a trade.
If Miami doesn't look to make a trade then that means they are committed to a rebuild since Tua's career is probably over.
It'll be fire sale time in Miami and the whole league will try and trade for high priced veterans like Tyreek.
Except I don't think they'll be able to get a 2nd for Russ. I'd be glad to get a 3rd for a player they have zero assets committed to.
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When you look at the open market for QB's, it's pretty bare. Miami has A LOT of high priced players on their team.....and Tua may be retiring with a shit ton of guaranteed money due.anpsteel wrote: ↑Fri Sep 13, 2024 12:56 pmYep, to all of thatK_C_ wrote: ↑Fri Sep 13, 2024 11:52 amFields will start in Denver.
If he balls out, Tomlin is gonna want to ride the hot hand and Russ will be expendable.
Tell the Dolphins you'll take a second rounder or bust for Russ.
They will probably sign Tannehill today. Ryan will start a week from Sunday and if it doesn't go well, Miami will be looking to make a trade.
If Miami doesn't look to make a trade then that means they are committed to a rebuild since Tua's career is probably over.
It'll be fire sale time in Miami and the whole league will try and trade for high priced veterans like Tyreek.
Except I don't think they'll be able to get a 2nd for Russ. I'd be glad to get a 3rd for a player they have zero assets committed to.
This was supposed to be the year everything fell into place for the Dolphins. Tua got paid. Tyreek is making huge money. Jalen Ramsey is making huge money. Waddle signed a 3-year, $84.75 million deal with 76 million of that guaranteed.
Miami is in WIN NOW mode because they have to be. It's either win now or they will trade off literally all of their high priced players. They will rebuild.
When you look at the QB's out there, in my mind Russell Wilson is easily the best of the bunch. Flacco isn't saving them. Jimmy G? The Rams will probably want a first rounder (a second rounder at the very least) and the dude isn't that good. Josh Dobbs?
No, Russell Wilson, with the Dolphins weapons is the perfect fit. We're probably too stupid to trade him, but Russ is the answer in Miami.
There is no doubt in my mind Miami will sign Tannehill today and he'll start a week from Sunday. If he pulls a Flacco from last year and starts winning, then all bets are off.
If he sucks and Fields has had a big game in Denver, I'll bet Russ is available and would be very happy to join the Dolphins.
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I personally wouldn’t lose sleep if the Steelers traded Russ (no chance they’d get a 2nd).
I wouldn’t even be all that surprised if they did it.
Can’t imagine Tomlin would miss the Fat Kabolys of the world annoying him with qb questions all season long.
That’s a lot of word salad to prepare every week even for a wordsmiff like Tomlin.
Anyway
Many on this board may disagree, but the Steelers are also in win now mode.
Justin Fields has missed his share of games due to injury as running quarterbacks are prone to do.
I don’t THINK Tomlin wants to see his NHALS streak in the hands of Kyle Allen.
We’ll see just how desperate the Dolphins are.
Shit off stupid decision to pay Tua all that money maybe they’re stupid enough to pony up for Russ Wilson
I wouldn’t even be all that surprised if they did it.
Can’t imagine Tomlin would miss the Fat Kabolys of the world annoying him with qb questions all season long.
That’s a lot of word salad to prepare every week even for a wordsmiff like Tomlin.
Anyway
Many on this board may disagree, but the Steelers are also in win now mode.
Justin Fields has missed his share of games due to injury as running quarterbacks are prone to do.
I don’t THINK Tomlin wants to see his NHALS streak in the hands of Kyle Allen.
We’ll see just how desperate the Dolphins are.
Shit off stupid decision to pay Tua all that money maybe they’re stupid enough to pony up for Russ Wilson
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Dude Miami is DESPERATE right now.Steeldrama wrote: ↑Fri Sep 13, 2024 2:15 pmI personally wouldn’t lose sleep if the Steelers traded Russ (no chance they’d get a 2nd).
I wouldn’t even be all that surprised if they did it.
Can’t imagine Tomlin would miss the Fat Kabolys of the world annoying him with qb questions all season long.
That’s a lot of word salad to prepare every week even for a wordsmiff like Tomlin.
Anyway
Many on this board may disagree, but the Steelers are also in win now mode.
Justin Fields has missed his share of games due to injury as running quarterbacks are prone to do.
I don’t THINK Tomlin wants to see his NHALS streak in the hands of Kyle Allen.
We’ll see just how desperate the Dolphins are.
Shit off stupid decision to pay Tua all that money maybe they’re stupid enough to pony up for Russ Wilson
They have weapons we could only dream of and a lot of talent on defense and.....THEY ARE FUCKED at the QB position.
I think they'd be happy as fuck to land a proven winner like Wilson for a 2nd and if I'm the Steelers, I wouldn't take anything less.
I'm certain the Dolphins would pony up a second rounder because they are absolutely fucked at the QB position right now.
You watch though, Tomlin will not trade Russ though because of exactly what you said.....probably no NHALS if Russ gets traded.
Hopefully the Khan Artist tells Mikey T to fuck off.
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Their OL is hot garbageThey have weapons we could only dream of and a lot of talent on defense and.....THEY ARE FUCKED at the QB position.
Armstead ALWAYS hurt and hurt AGAIN last night
Robert Hunt also hurt last night
Sure they’ve got speed to burn at the skill positions no doubt but nobody of note their to block
Kinda important for Russ to be a success
Too early in the season for the 1-0 Steelers to bail on Russ who himself is in fact injured
Maybe you’re right and the Steelers will jump at an offer
I’m not rooting against it
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Agree the Dolphins o-line is terrible and banged up.Steeldrama wrote: ↑Fri Sep 13, 2024 2:32 pmTheir OL is hot garbageThey have weapons we could only dream of and a lot of talent on defense and.....THEY ARE FUCKED at the QB position.
Armstead ALWAYS hurt and hurt AGAIN last night
Robert Hunt also hurt last night
Sure they’ve got speed to burn at the skill positions no doubt but nobody of note their to block
Kinda important for Russ to be a success
Too early in the season for the 1-0 Steelers to bail on Russ who himself is in fact injured
Maybe you’re right and the Steelers will jump at an offer
I’m not rooting against it
Won't disagree at all but it was pretty bad and banged up last year and Tua lasted 18 games.
This year, even in the week 1 game the Dolphins came back to win vs Jacksonville, Tua was playing different.
He was doing hero ball things he avoided last year. Probably thought he had overcome his injury/concussion issues.
Dude was wrong, obviously.
You said the Steelers are in win now mode too, but I think they're more in NHALS mode.....and probably will remain that way with Justin Fields and or Russell Wilson at QB.
I think the Steelers have a Super Bowl level defense. Not a Steel Curtain or 85 Bears level defense, but it's damn good.
I don't think anybody in their right mind believes our offense is good enough to go on a deep playoff run against the likes of KC and Buffalo.
Maybe if Fields's confidence grows and he develops, I'll change my tune but I don't think Wilson has enough weapons to take the Steelers on a deep run.
That's why I think the Steelers would be better off starting Fields to find out if he might be a keeper and allowing Russ a chance on a Dolphins team that, if they can patch together a decent o-line, nobody except the Niners has anything close to the type of quick-strike weaponry the Dolphins possess.
Russ would be flogging his dolphin, no pun intended, throwing to Waddle, Tyreek, those fast as fuck backs, OBJ in a few weeks, etc, if he were to land in Miami.
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Dolphins would be more likely to look at Dallas backups as a solution at this point than Russ. Plus he's basically free to the PS. I don't see it happening unless an offer is extremely generous.
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I think trading Justin Fields is more likely, honestly. The Dolphins would probably be more interested and I'm not sure the Steelers trust Fields long term. They won't be able to baby him for more than a game or two.Dan Smith--BYU wrote: ↑Fri Sep 13, 2024 3:43 pmDolphins would be more likely to look at Dallas backups as a solution at this point than Russ. Plus he's basically free to the PS. I don't see it happening unless an offer is extremely generous.
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