Sammie Coates

[bradshaw2ben]

Bryant runs out of bounds after that catch in the 4th quarter. Coates keeps the clock running.

Bryant scores easily on the catch that Coates took inside the 5.

[Legacy User]

Bryant runs out of bounds after that catch in the 4th quarter. Coates keeps the clock running.

Bryant scores easily on the catch that Coates took inside the 5.

[Steelcody7]

Bryant runs out of bounds after that catch in the 4th quarter. Coates keeps the clock running.

Bryant scores easily on the catch that Coates took inside the 5.

Unfortunately we'll never know because Bryant is a dumbass.

[Stallworth16]

This is Sammie Coates first year getting significant playing time. After 5 games, he's got 421 yards (26 yards less than AB) at 22.2 yds/catch. He got 2 TDs today in addition to his drops which may have been affected by a hand injury in the first half.

Coates is doing just fine. He's still learning. He has a slightly different skill set than Martavis, One positive about Coates is he has not gotten himself suspended or in any trouble at all. He's here, he's contributing. Martavis Bryant is an Amazing player, but he had drops, and he had games where he was quiet. It would be interesting to keep AB, Coates and Bryant. Tough Matchups for a defense.

Interesting Postgame interview of Coates and other great postgame interviews here.
http://www.steelers.com/videos/index.html

[bradshaw2ben]

This is Sammie Coates first year getting significant playing time. After 5 games, he's got 421 yards (26 yards less than AB) at 22.2 yds/catch. He got 2 TDs today in addition to his drops which may have been affected by a hand injury in the first half.

Coates is doing just fine. He's still learning. He has a slightly different skill set than Martavis, One positive about Coates is he has not gotten himself suspended or in any trouble at all. He's here, he's contributing. Martavis Bryant is an Amazing player, but he had drops, and he had games where he was quiet. It would be interesting to keep AB, Coates and Bryant. Tough Matchups for a defense.

Interesting Postgame interview of Coates and other great postgame interviews here.
http://www.steelers.com/videos/index.html

and Eli Rogers. And Lev Bell. And two or three TEs who can play a little. It's sick.

[Stallworth16]

This is Sammie Coates first year getting significant playing time. After 5 games, he's got 421 yards (26 yards less than AB) at 22.2 yds/catch. He got 2 TDs today in addition to his drops which may have been affected by a hand injury in the first half.

Coates is doing just fine. He's still learning. He has a slightly different skill set than Martavis, One positive about Coates is he has not gotten himself suspended or in any trouble at all. He's here, he's contributing. Martavis Bryant is an Amazing player, but he had drops, and he had games where he was quiet. It would be interesting to keep AB, Coates and Bryant. Tough Matchups for a defense.

Interesting Postgame interview of Coates and other great postgame interviews here.
http://www.steelers.com/videos/index.html

and Eli Rogers. And Lev Bell. And two or three TEs who can play a little. It's sick.

Le'Veon Bell is a nuclear weapon. Love that guy. He's still getting his timing and rhythm back.

[Legacy User]

I think coates is doing very well.. angry about the 5 drops.. then I see he had injured hand? well ill give him a pass as he made some fine plays too boot.. cant really say he is better then Bryant. Bryant is a scary freak in open field that surpasses everybody in that dept.
id love seeing a brown-Bryant-coates tandem all day!!

[daikyu]

Coates has some great potential but his hands seem a bit more suspect than Bryant. Also on some of Coates deep catches I think Bryant will not get caught from behind when Coates does.

Coates seems just a 1/2 notch below Bryant in athletic talent. Unfortunately, Bryant may never play in a Steeler uniform again.

Can you imagine a 3 wide of AB, Bryant, Coates? That is the best trio the Steelers have ever fielded.

Coates bounced back well after several drops. I am hoping he keeps progressing.

[Legacy User]

Can you imagine a 3 wide of AB, Bryant, Coates? That is the best trio anyone ha[s] ever fielded.

[Legacy User]

i don't see the point in beating up Coates for a few drops when he managed to recover in exactly the way one would hope

i feel more positive about him after yesterday's performance than i ever have

also the fact that he and Brown are 7th and 6th (respectively) in receiving yards is pretty fantastic

[Legacy User]

I think the success of Coates right now can be first awarded to Ben. He manages to use the abilities of Coates perfectly and makes him more confident week after week.

I am not as confident as you about the success of the trio AB/Bryant/Coates. Coates and Bryant really seems like the same kind of player to me, with Bryant being more talentful at this point. It's good to have both of them in the roster, but I don't think the two of them will produce if Bryant comes back.

[Legacy User]

I think the success of Coates right now can be first awarded to Ben. He manages to use the abilities of Coates perfectly and makes him more confident week after week.

I am not as confident as you about the success of the trio AB/Bryant/Coates. Coates and Bryant really seems like the same kind of player to me, with Bryant being more talentful at this point. It's good to have both of them in the roster, but I don't think the two of them will produce if Bryant comes back.

I was actually thinking about that last night.....Coates and Bryant on the field at the same time.

First off, let me go on record that I think Bryant may never play again. He is Josh Gordon 2.0.

However, if I'm wrong, I think having Coates and Bryant split wide on opposite sides of the field would be a nightmare for opposing defenses. Can't roll a safety to each one of them w AB cruising the middle of the field. I think Wheaton moves on and Eli remains.

What is status of Ladarius Green? Love to get him in the lineup.

[Legacy User]

Using AB in the middle of field can be a solution to use both of them, but they will need to improve their route running ability for it. With Bryant and Coates at the same time, we can't afford to let them do verticals everytime. But I trust Haley about it, he could work is magic on them.

Green can be a fantastic weapon, but I wouldn't be so disappointed if he can't escape from his health issues. James has been very reliable since the beginning of the season.

[jeemie]

i don't see the point in beating up Coates for a few drops when he managed to recover in exactly the way one would hope

i feel more positive about him after yesterday's performance than i ever have

also the fact that he and Brown are 7th and 6th (respectively) in receiving yards is pretty fantastic

He still needs to work on his route-running- has to put an end to those times he stops on his routes and throws off the timing.

But I'm not going to get on him for the couple of drops yesterday...yet.

He was dealing with the fact that one of Ben's passes pretty much literally went THROUGH his hand.

[COR-TEN]

Bryant runs out of bounds after that catch in the 4th quarter. Coates keeps the clock running.

Bryant scores easily on the catch that Coates took inside the 5.

I disagree. Coates had defenders cutting the angle to the endzone. I'd love to see the all 22, though.

[tbsteel]

Sure, the drops were cringe-worthy, but you can't argue with 139 yards and 2 TDs. Glad Ben kept going back to him. Coates has a combo of skills and athleticism no other WR on the team has. As long as he keeps getting open as much as he has, he'll catch most of them.

[tbsteel]

Top 5 player in the league. Have to find a way to keep him.

[bradshaw2ben]

Bryant runs out of bounds after that catch in the 4th quarter. Coates keeps the clock running.

Bryant scores easily on the catch that Coates took inside the 5.

I disagree. Coates had defenders cutting the angle to the endzone. I'd love to see the all 22, though.

simple cutback = easy score. The guy immediate chasing him to the edge had the angle but was overcommitted, LB inside was screened off.

[SteelyourFace]

i'm an auburn grad and loyal follower of au football. i wasn't a big Coates fan during the draft process b/c he had too many drops. on the other hand, i recognized that he had good speed and a very good build. you can't play offense at auburn w/o being a willing run blocker. Coates was a hard working and effective run blocker during his entire college career. it is not at all surprising to me that he has carrier his run blocking into the NFL.

i was skeptical when he was drafted but i thought using a third round pick made him a decent value selection. i never thought he would make it as far as he has thus far. he is in the process of proving me wrong. (and I like it). he had some terrible drops yesterday but he fought through it. he slowed up on the post route that should have been a routine catch for a TD. that should NEVER happen. i hope they get on him good for that. the slowing down is much worse that a drop. everyone drops one now and again. everyone.

i saw him interviewed by deion sanders after the game. He really seems humble and seems to be doing his best to follow ABs footsteps.

Step back in time for a minute and consider the 2nd seasons of Mike Wallace, AB, Manny Sanders, and The Alien. Consider where those WRs were at the same point of their 2nd season as a pro. I'm pretty sure I will put Coates development and production up against any and all of that list.....including AB. He still has a ways to go, but he has the tools to get better and from all appearances, he has the humility and work ethic to grow from his mistakes. i don't think he will ever have elite hands, but he is capable of being a very good NFL WR and a valuable asset to the team.

[steelclan]

Coates is a 3rd round draft pick. From the same draft that Kevin White, Perriman and Parker came from. 3 players that due to injuries & being grossly overrated haven't done much of anything. Perriman for example drops the ball just as much as Coates. He isn't near the phyiscal specimen and thus far hasn't looked as fast on the field. Again we're looking at Coates through a prism that basically ignores where he was drafted. For a 3rd rounder his production is outstanding & on current trend Coates will get better & better. I don't feel the need to go much beyond that.

[bradshaw2ben]

officially... Bryant has 13 drops and 90 catches in 162 targets. Coates 1 drop, 22 catches in 36 targets. Generally, they only give you credit for a drop where you're not physically challenged by the defender... maybe you could give 2 or 3 to Coates yesterday by the most generous interpretation of that standard... even so, Bryant had 9 drops in 11 games last year-- 3 yesterday would give Coates 4 in 5 games. Thus, less than Bryant.

[tbsteel]

Coates took 17 stitches at half time. He has obvious questionable hands but give the kid a break. Plus, he bounced back and finished strong.

Antonio Brown is 6th in the NFL in receiving yards. Guess who is seventh?

The guy is a playmaker. Gotta keep him on the field and give him targets.

[Steelperch]

officially... Bryant has 13 drops and 90 catches in 162 targets. Coates 1 drop, 22 catches in 36 targets. Generally, they only give you credit for a drop where you're not physically challenged by the defender... maybe you could give 2 or 3 to Coates yesterday by the most generous interpretation of that standard... even so, Bryant had 9 drops in 11 games last year-- 3 yesterday would give Coates 4 in 5 games. Thus, less than Bryant.

Five balls thrown to Coates went incomplete. All 5 were Coats fault. Whether he stopped running the route or had the ball go right through his open arms, all 5 were perfectly thrown. You can call them drops or fuck ups, but Coates left yards and points on the table five times yesterday. That's far too much. Can guarantee AB makes every one of those plays. That's the standard, if you will. Obviously.

[bradshaw2ben]

officially... Bryant has 13 drops and 90 catches in 162 targets. Coates 1 drop, 22 catches in 36 targets. Generally, they only give you credit for a drop where you're not physically challenged by the defender... maybe you could give 2 or 3 to Coates yesterday by the most generous interpretation of that standard... even so, Bryant had 9 drops in 11 games last year-- 3 yesterday would give Coates 4 in 5 games. Thus, less than Bryant.

Five balls thrown to Coates went incomplete. All 5 were Coats fault. Whether he stopped running the route or had the ball go right through his open arms, all 5 were perfectly thrown. You can call them drops or fuck ups, but Coates left yards and points on the table five times yesterday. That's far too much. Can guarantee AB makes every one of those plays. That's the standard, if you will. Obviously.

now THAT is a different argument.

I give Coates a partial pass on the play where he was being interfered with and the ball went through his hands.. he couldn't get to where he was trying to go to catch the ball. I might even give him a 25% pass on the drop where the ball ripped his hand.

But, otherwise, yeah... these are plays elite players make most of the time. The real comparison though is: how many of those would Bryant have made? How many would Bryant playing his 7th game have made?

[Orangesteel]

officially... Bryant has 13 drops and 90 catches in 162 targets. Coates 1 drop, 22 catches in 36 targets. Generally, they only give you credit for a drop where you're not physically challenged by the defender... maybe you could give 2 or 3 to Coates yesterday by the most generous interpretation of that standard... even so, Bryant had 9 drops in 11 games last year-- 3 yesterday would give Coates 4 in 5 games. Thus, less than Bryant.

Five balls thrown to Coates went incomplete. All 5 were Coats fault. Whether he stopped running the route or had the ball go right through his open arms, all 5 were perfectly thrown. You can call them drops or fuck ups, but Coates left yards and points on the table five times yesterday. That's far too much. Can guarantee AB makes every one of those plays. That's the standard, if you will. Obviously.

now THAT is a different argument.

I give Coates a partial pass on the play where he was being interfered with and the ball went through his hands.. he couldn't get to where he was trying to go to catch the ball. I might even give him a 25% pass on the drop where the ball ripped his hand.

But, otherwise, yeah... these are plays elite players make most of the time. The real comparison though is: how many of those would Bryant have made? How many would Bryant playing his 7th game have made?

I think that's the argument. If Bryant and/or Coates had elite ball catching skills like AB has, then they would have probably been lock first rounders and not drafted in the 3rd either year by the Steelers.

They are who they are. I will take either one and perhaps, both, thank you very much.

[Stallworth16]

Sammie Coates had 6 Catches for 139 yards and 2 TDs at 23.2 yards a catch against the Jets. Many of those catches were after a hand injury.

In the Postgame Interview Sammie took full responsibility for his drops, and wouldn't use the injury as an excuse. His energy was positive, and he dedicated himself to improving his game. This kid is going to be fine. He barely played last year and he's got 421 yards at 22.2 a catch, and 2 TDs.

ESPN writeup on Sammie today:
http://www.espn.com/blog/pittsburgh-ste ... experience

[Donnie Brasco]

officially... Bryant has 13 drops and 90 catches in 162 targets. Coates 1 drop, 22 catches in 36 targets. Generally, they only give you credit for a drop where you're not physically challenged by the defender... maybe you could give 2 or 3 to Coates yesterday by the most generous interpretation of that standard... even so, Bryant had 9 drops in 11 games last year-- 3 yesterday would give Coates 4 in 5 games. Thus, less than Bryant.

That's far too much. Can guarantee AB makes every one of those plays. That's the standard, if you will. Obviously.

That's an unrealistic standard, or else every other team would have an AB.

Dude is in his 2nd season...there's going to be struggles. We want the lessons to come during the reg season so he doesn't fuck up when the games really matter.

[Stallworth16]

Last year Coates had 2 targets the entire regular season, and 3 targets in the playoffs. 5 passes thrown at him his entire rookie year.

Sammie is in his Second season but from real game experience this is his rookie year.

[COR-TEN]

If MB never played for the steelers this board would be creaming its jeans over Coates and his production, drops and all. Did MB ever block? Was he any good at it? MB disappeared in a few games. Coates should be given some slack since he cut his hand. A drop or two - when contested - is not a big deal. How many drops did AB have his first couple of seasons?

I always thought MB was a bit overrated, and Sammie underrated.

[jebrick]

As Richard Mann has said.. That is what the JUGS machine is for. I am sure Coates will be fine.