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Post by Legacy User » Fri Jul 26, 2019 7:25 pm

https://twitter.com/steelers/status/1154579742915305479

our "piece of shit" starting RB checks in at #62 in the top 100 NFL players this year



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Post by drmalba » Fri Jul 26, 2019 7:37 pm

steel wrote:https://twitter.com/steelers/status/1154579742915305479

our "piece of shit" starting RB checks in at #62 in the top 100 NFL players this year


No doubt, the production and pro bowl status make him an easy inclusion here.
After he got dinged and lost some effectiveness later in the season, I might comment about his durability. Then I would have to factor in the fact dude came back from an MCL tear AND beat cancer in the same year. No, I would have to say Connor is not just a solid player, he's an inspiring player.
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Post by Legacy User » Fri Jul 26, 2019 7:42 pm

Who called Connor a “piece of shit”? Or is POS just a delightful sobriquet for the opinion held by some that Connor is not as good as Bell?

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Post by K_C_ » Fri Jul 26, 2019 7:44 pm

Still Lit wrote:Who called Connor a “piece of shit”? Or is POS just a delightful sobriquet for the opinion held by some that Connor is not as good as Bell?


He's better than Bell.

He'll prove that this year.
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Post by Legacy User » Fri Jul 26, 2019 7:51 pm

KC wrote:
Still Lit wrote:Who called Connor a “piece of shit”? Or is POS just a delightful sobriquet for the opinion held by some that Connor is not as good as Bell?


He's better than Bell.

He'll prove that this year.


Oh, I have no bone in that particular fight. I think Bell WAS better, but with our line, Conner’s age, and his price tag, I’m very much good. Just trying to recall Conner being thought to be a piece of shit.

I did derive a great deal of pleasure from asking whether anyone missed Bell after Conner fumbled in the Browns thread, though. :D

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Post by Obviously » Fri Jul 26, 2019 8:30 pm

steel stirring the shit again. Total douchenozzle.
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Post by Baltostiller » Fri Jul 26, 2019 8:41 pm

Still Lit wrote:Who called Connor a “piece of shit”? Or is POS just a delightful sobriquet for the opinion held by some that Connor is not as good as Bell?


I recall him being called a "JAG" not a piece of shit but he was also blamed for several losses.

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Post by Donnie Brasco » Fri Jul 26, 2019 8:43 pm

69 would be better

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Post by Steelafan77 » Fri Jul 26, 2019 8:52 pm

Too Bad it wasn't 26 :D

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Post by Minkah'n History » Sat Jul 27, 2019 12:24 am

Baltostiller wrote:
Still Lit wrote:Who called Connor a “piece of shit”? Or is POS just a delightful sobriquet for the opinion held by some that Connor is not as good as Bell?


I recall him being called a "JAG" not a piece of shit but he was also blamed for several losses.


That would be correct, JAG and a bad draft pick in the 3rd, not sure anyone ever called him a “piece of shit”

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Post by AZ Stiller Fan » Sat Jul 27, 2019 5:44 am

I remember the words "atrocious," "awful," and "limited athletically" but not "piece of shit."

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Post by StillerInCT » Tue Jul 30, 2019 7:05 pm

I don't think Conner is as good as prime Bell. Bell in his prime was the best RB in the league and might have been generational had he been more durable and not motivated primarily by money.

But with the way the NFL is now, Conner presents good value. I think he's above average to good which is all you need back there behind a talented offensive line. To be honest, I don't want the Steelers to feature a RB anyway. I'd much prefer them using the backs on Sunday based on their skills sets and ability to exploit THAT defense on THAT Sunday. We have a stable of capable backs and we should be using it as such. Keep these guys fresher for the late season games.

I hate bringing them up, but look at the JAGs the Pats trot out there with effectiveness. Those guys do just enough to keep the Patriots offense balanced enough to let Brady do his thing.
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Post by Thrillsseeker » Tue Jul 30, 2019 7:19 pm

StillerInCT wrote:I don't think Conner is as good as prime Bell. Bell in his prime was the best RB in the league and might have been generational had he been more durable and not motivated primarily by money.

But with the way the NFL is now, Conner presents good value. I think he's above average to good which is all you need back there behind a talented offensive line. To be honest, I don't want the Steelers to feature a RB anyway. I'd much prefer them using the backs on Sunday based on their skills sets and ability to exploit THAT defense on THAT Sunday. We have a stable of capable backs and we should be using it as such. Keep these guys fresher for the late season games.

I hate bringing them up, but look at the JAGs the Pats trot out there with effectiveness. Those guys do just enough to keep the Patriots offense balanced enough to let Brady do his thing.



This. Every Sunday. Keep this RB’s fresh and hungry for touches. I’d really like to see Samuels cstch a-lot of balls this year and let him get YAC yds and gash defenses!

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Post by DP39 » Wed Jul 31, 2019 12:23 am

Don't pay running backs C2 money is my preferred strategy.

Draft one between rounds 2-5 almost every year. RB by committee with different specialties. Use them up for 4 years, if they turn into an all-pro, F Tag them for one year and then get your comp pick out of them the next. Hell, 5 years of use for less than $15M total is a bargain.

Put your money in the best O line you can.

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Post by StillerInCT » Wed Jul 31, 2019 2:15 pm

DP39 wrote:Don't pay running backs C2 money is my preferred strategy.

Draft one between rounds 2-5 almost every year. RB by committee with different specialties. Use them up for 4 years, if they turn into an all-pro, F Tag them for one year and then get your comp pick out of them the next. Hell, 5 years of use for less than $15M total is a bargain.

Put your money in the best O line you can.


Yeah I can get on board with this. By the time they reach C2 they are close to the average shelf life of an NFL RB.
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Post by K_C_ » Fri Aug 02, 2019 5:42 pm

StillerInCT wrote:I don't think Conner is as good as prime Bell. Bell in his prime was the best RB in the league and might have been generational had he been more durable and not motivated primarily by money.

But with the way the NFL is now, Conner presents good value. I think he's above average to good which is all you need back there behind a talented offensive line. To be honest, I don't want the Steelers to feature a RB anyway. I'd much prefer them using the backs on Sunday based on their skills sets and ability to exploit THAT defense on THAT Sunday. We have a stable of capable backs and we should be using it as such. Keep these guys fresher for the late season games.

I hate bringing them up, but look at the JAGs the Pats trot out there with effectiveness. Those guys do just enough to keep the Patriots offense balanced enough to let Brady do his thing.


Nah, Bell's issue was speed and that issue was MASSIVE.

Much like Bettis, Bell simply didn't have the ability to run away from people and in today's NFL where speed is everything, you have to be able to run away from people.

I wasn't a fan of the Conner pick, but he did everything Bell could do and Conner did it better. I was shocked at how good a receiver Conner turned out to be.

Conner has the ability to run away from people.

We may struggle for awhile to replace MC Hammer Jr but Bell was EASILY replaced.
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Post by Stallworth16 » Fri Aug 02, 2019 6:31 pm

Conner showed last year, he is the real deal. I’m also very high on Jaylen Samuels. Haven’t formed a strong opinion yet on Benny Snell, other than he’s big and strong, and looked good in college.

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Post by Jobu » Fri Aug 02, 2019 8:15 pm

James Conner strikes me as the kind of guy that works his ass off to prove people wrong. Just for the record, I loved the kid at Pitt and loved the Steelers picking him. Before his illness, he was a beast and the best running back in the country. He was a better college back than ole Lev could ever dream of being. We’ve only begun to see how good this guy is going to be. This time next year, when people start debating the best RBs in the league, the name James Conner is going to be heard long and loud.

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Post by swissvale72 » Sat Aug 03, 2019 1:33 am

KC wrote:
StillerInCT wrote:I don't think Conner is as good as prime Bell. Bell in his prime was the best RB in the league and might have been generational had he been more durable and not motivated primarily by money.

But with the way the NFL is now, Conner presents good value. I think he's above average to good which is all you need back there behind a talented offensive line. To be honest, I don't want the Steelers to feature a RB anyway. I'd much prefer them using the backs on Sunday based on their skills sets and ability to exploit THAT defense on THAT Sunday. We have a stable of capable backs and we should be using it as such. Keep these guys fresher for the late season games.

I hate bringing them up, but look at the JAGs the Pats trot out there with effectiveness. Those guys do just enough to keep the Patriots offense balanced enough to let Brady do his thing.


Nah, Bell's issue was speed and that issue was MASSIVE.

Much like Bettis, Bell simply didn't have the ability to run away from people and in today's NFL where speed is everything, you have to be able to run away from people.

I wasn't a fan of the Conner pick, but he did everything Bell could do and Conner did it better. I was shocked at how good a receiver Conner turned out to be.

Conner has the ability to run away from people.

We may struggle for awhile to replace MC Hammer Jr but Bell was EASILY replaced.


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Post by FC » Sat Aug 03, 2019 1:53 am

Conner has to do a better job of securing the ball.

Drops/Fumbles cost the Steelers the playoffs last year...It was a pebble in the shit storm we called the 2018 season...Still that pebble was significant enough

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swissvale72 wrote:
KC wrote:
StillerInCT wrote:I don't think Conner is as good as prime Bell. Bell in his prime was the best RB in the league and might have been generational had he been more durable and not motivated primarily by money.

But with the way the NFL is now, Conner presents good value. I think he's above average to good which is all you need back there behind a talented offensive line. To be honest, I don't want the Steelers to feature a RB anyway. I'd much prefer them using the backs on Sunday based on their skills sets and ability to exploit THAT defense on THAT Sunday. We have a stable of capable backs and we should be using it as such. Keep these guys fresher for the late season games.

I hate bringing them up, but look at the JAGs the Pats trot out there with effectiveness. Those guys do just enough to keep the Patriots offense balanced enough to let Brady do his thing.


Nah, Bell's issue was speed and that issue was MASSIVE.

Much like Bettis, Bell simply didn't have the ability to run away from people and in today's NFL where speed is everything, you have to be able to run away from people.

I wasn't a fan of the Conner pick, but he did everything Bell could do and Conner did it better. I was shocked at how good a receiver Conner turned out to be.

Conner has the ability to run away from people.

We may struggle for awhile to replace MC Hammer Jr but Bell was EASILY replaced.


http://www.nfl.com/videos/pittsburgh-st ... 1-yard-run


Where was that guy in 2017? You remember that year right? The last time Bell played for the Steelers?

That season, despite having 321 carries, Bell had a WHOPPING 3 carries of 20 + yards.

3

Not 1 or 2 mind you, but 3 whole carries.

:lol:

....and he wanted big money.

:lol:

James Conner had 9 carries of 20 + yards in an injury shortened season on only 215 carries.

9.

Those knee injuries sure seem to be slowing Ol' Lev down, huh?
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Post by swissvale72 » Sat Aug 03, 2019 1:59 pm

FC wrote:Conner has to do a better job of securing the ball.

Drops/Fumbles cost the Steelers the playoffs last year...It was a pebble in the shit storm we called the 2018 season...Still that pebble was significant enough


Watch out, FC...you'll soon be accused of having it in for James Conner.

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Post by swissvale72 » Sat Aug 03, 2019 2:01 pm

"Where was that guy in 2017?" says the guy who was all over wanting that guy re-signed after 2017.

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Post by K_C_ » Sat Aug 03, 2019 3:11 pm

swissvale72 wrote:"Where was that guy in 2017?" says the guy who was all over wanting that guy re-signed after 2017.


Well, we upgraded Bell....VERY quickly.

I hated the Conner pick and worried about the RB position.

Turns out I had ZERO reason to worry (also shows how FUCKING DUMB it is to pay RB's....pssst...ask the Rams).

We'll see how Lev the Rapper's "patient" running style looks behind a shitty offensive line.

Dumbfuck Bell saved the Steelers from themselves! :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Post by K_C_ » Sat Aug 03, 2019 3:17 pm

swissvale72 wrote:
FC wrote:Conner has to do a better job of securing the ball.

Drops/Fumbles cost the Steelers the playoffs last year...It was a pebble in the shit storm we called the 2018 season...Still that pebble was significant enough


Watch out, FC...you'll soon be accused of having it in for James Conner.


Saying Conner needs to do a better job securing the ball is correct though. Being that last season was Conner's first as a starter at the NFL level (a Pro Bowl season too!) I'm pretty confident he'll improve in all areas.

Even guys like Ben Roethlisberger, who had a 5 turnover game (WOW!) last year sometimes need to be reminded to do a better job taking care of the ball.

Not worried about Conner and LOVE our RB stable!
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Post by swissvale72 » Sat Aug 03, 2019 3:26 pm

KC wrote:
swissvale72 wrote:
FC wrote:Conner has to do a better job of securing the ball.
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Drops/Fumbles cost the Steelers the playoffs last year..It was a pebble in the shit storm we called the 2018 season...Still that pebble was significant enough


Watch out, FC...you'll soon be accused of having it in for James Conner.


Saying Conner needs to do a better job securing the ball is correct though. Being that last season was Conner's first as a starter at the NFL level (a Pro Bowl season too!) I'm pretty confident he'll improve in all areas.

Even guys like Ben Roethlisberger, who had a 5 turnover game (WOW!) last year sometimes need to be reminded to do a better job taking care of the ball.

Not worried about Conner and LOVE our RB stable!


Guess it depends who says it, as the post also said, well....see the bolded part.

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Post by K_C_ » Sat Aug 03, 2019 4:01 pm

swissvale72 wrote:Guess it depends who says it, as the post also said, well....see the bolded part.

Oh, I didn't see that part.

Of course drops/fumbles played a role in why the Steelers didn't make the playoffs.

Know what played a bigger part in my book? Huge INT's (like at the end of the Broncos game), too many INT's overall and Boswell missing a SHITLOAD of kicks.

How about the defense allowing Patrick Mahomes to throw more TD's IN HEINZ FIELD than incompletions? You think that played a part in the Steelers missing the playoffs?

Or the embarrassing defensive effort against the Chargers?

Or maybe MC Hammer Jr taking the Raiders game off? JuJu's fumble against the Saints?

There were a SHIT TON of reasons the Steelers missed the playoffs.

A shit ton.
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Post by Steelafan77 » Sat Aug 03, 2019 4:07 pm

Because Tomlin? :lol:

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Post by swissvale72 » Sat Aug 03, 2019 5:07 pm

KC wrote:
swissvale72 wrote:Guess it depends who says it, as the post also said, well....see the bolded part.

Oh, I didn't see that part.

Of course drops/fumbles played a role in why the Steelers didn't make the playoffs.

Know what played a bigger part in my book? Huge INT's (like at the end of the Broncos game), too many INT's overall and Boswell missing a SHITLOAD of kicks.

How about the defense allowing Patrick Mahomes to throw more TD's IN HEINZ FIELD than incompletions? You think that played a part in the Steelers missing the playoffs?

Or the embarrassing defensive effort against the Chargers?

Or maybe MC Hammer Jr taking the Raiders game off? JuJu's fumble against the Saints?

There were a SHIT TON of reasons the Steelers missed the playoffs.

A shit ton.


Yup....and the two Conner fumbles were part of the narrative. Still the case that Conner doesn't fumble against the Browns, Steelers win that game.

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