Tomlin Has Never Had A Losing Season
Posted: Mon Dec 09, 2019 1:12 am
I know how much this pisses people off here, so I couldn't resist. Go ahead and kill me if you must! Go Steelers!
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Re: Tomlin Has Never Had A Losing Season
Posted: Mon Dec 09, 2019 1:15 am
We all have hated him and wanted him fired but we got to praise him this year. Best coaching of his career!
Re: Tomlin Has Never Had A Losing Season
Posted: Mon Dec 09, 2019 1:19 am
Not so fast
It’s fuck up season time. Let’s see if dumbo learned anything from the past
It’s fuck up season time. Let’s see if dumbo learned anything from the past
Re: Tomlin Has Never Had A Losing Season
Posted: Mon Dec 09, 2019 1:23 am
Re: Tomlin Has Never Had A Losing Season
Posted: Mon Dec 09, 2019 1:31 am
This sounds like the sort of shit a Jets fan would keep track of.
Re: Tomlin Has Never Had A Losing Season
Posted: Mon Dec 09, 2019 1:33 am
Re: Tomlin Has Never Had A Losing Season
Posted: Mon Dec 09, 2019 1:37 am
He seriously deserves to be in the conversation for Coach of The Year. For never having a losing season that alone may not be enough but If he gets this team to the playoffs and wins a game then he should get it. I don't know any other coach that has done this much in a similar situation. I don't follow any other NFL team. So I could be just seeing it through Black and Gold glasses.
Re: Tomlin Has Never Had A Losing Season
Posted: Mon Dec 09, 2019 1:37 am
That fact is usually a point of underachieving but this year, for the first time, it's a point of overachieving.
Re: Tomlin Has Never Had A Losing Season
Posted: Mon Dec 09, 2019 1:42 am
Think it says something about the many years of having a lot of talent.
Re: Tomlin Has Never Had A Losing Season
Posted: Mon Dec 09, 2019 1:48 am
Texas Black & Gold wrote: ↑Mon Dec 09, 2019 1:37 amHe seriously deserves to be in the conversation for Coach of The Year. For never having a losing season that alone may not be enough but If he gets this team to the playoffs and wins a game then he should get it. I don't know any other coach that has done this much in a similar situation. I don't follow any other NFL team. So I could be just seeing it through Black and Gold glasses.
Ya think?
Re: Tomlin Has Never Had A Losing Season
Posted: Mon Dec 09, 2019 1:49 am
He also hasn't won a Super Bowl in a dozen years and hasn't even been to a Super Bowl in a decade.
LUCKY US!!
LUCKY US!!
Re: Tomlin Has Never Had A Losing Season
Posted: Mon Dec 09, 2019 1:58 am
Tomlin has never had a losing season and if my aunt had balls she would be my uncle...
Re: Tomlin Has Never Had A Losing Season
Posted: Mon Dec 09, 2019 2:00 am
Are you saying your Aunt is your Uncle?Baltostiller wrote: ↑Mon Dec 09, 2019 1:58 amTomlin has never had a losing season and if my aunt had balls she would be my uncle...
Re: Tomlin Has Never Had A Losing Season
Posted: Mon Dec 09, 2019 2:02 am
That may have been true in the past but nowadays you may be surprised.Baltostiller wrote: ↑Mon Dec 09, 2019 1:58 amTomlin has never had a losing season and if my aunt had balls she would be my uncle...
Re: Tomlin Has Never Had A Losing Season
Posted: Mon Dec 09, 2019 2:17 am
That's true of most teams in the NFL, including several with great QBs and good coaches. WTF is wrong with your expectations?
If you're at all honest with your self, you know this team's defense and or offense was never good enough to win it all and you simply thought Ben was an eraser who could supercede all of that if only his coach would get out of his way.
My position would be: Ben is a lottery ticket that makes you always have a puncher's chance, but even with that QB you need to have few holes and have things break right for you.
The year they beat Cincy in the playoffs, I think they were good enough to win it all but injuries killed them. Same with the KC playoff win year. The offense was fantastic the year they lost to Jags but defense was terrible. Most of the years between 2011 and 2019, they were done in by injuries-- their margin of success was too thin. In effect, they were rebuilding and maintained a level of success beyond expectations during that time, especially with a team of offensive divas.
Re: Tomlin Has Never Had A Losing Season
Posted: Mon Dec 09, 2019 2:19 am
You mean the year Burfict personally lost a playoff game for the Bungles they already had won?bradshaw2ben wrote: ↑Mon Dec 09, 2019 2:17 amThat's true of most teams in the NFL, including several with great QBs and good coaches. WTF is wrong with your expectations?
If you're at all honest with your self, you know this team's defense and or offense was never good enough to win it all and you simply thought Ben was an eraser who could supercede all of that if only his coach would get out of his way.
My position would be: Ben is a lottery ticket that makes you always have a puncher's chance, but even with that QB you need to have few holes and have things break right for you.
The year they beat Cincy in the playoffs, I think they were good enough to win it all but injuries killed them. Same with the KC playoff win year. The offense was fantastic the year they lost to Jags but defense was terrible. Most of the years between 2011 and 2019, they were done in by injuries-- their margin of success was too thin. In effect, they were rebuilding and maintained a level of success beyond expectations during that time, especially with a team of offensive divas.
Re: Tomlin Has Never Had A Losing Season
Posted: Mon Dec 09, 2019 2:22 am
....and I'll add that it took a MIRACLE for the Steelers to beat the great AJ McCarron.
They weren't so lucky against the legendary greatness of Tim Tebow and Blake Bortles.
They weren't so lucky against the legendary greatness of Tim Tebow and Blake Bortles.
Re: Tomlin Has Never Had A Losing Season
Posted: Mon Dec 09, 2019 2:24 am
Ben gets that team in FG range with or without the Burfict penalty. They had time and were moving it down the field. They basically needed on completion. So, yes, I mean that year. That should have been the first year of their run... then AB goes down, then Bell goes down, then Shazier goes down... all at very inopportune moments.K_C_ wrote: ↑Mon Dec 09, 2019 2:19 amYou mean the year Burfict personally lost a playoff game for the Bungles they already had won?bradshaw2ben wrote: ↑Mon Dec 09, 2019 2:17 amThat's true of most teams in the NFL, including several with great QBs and good coaches. WTF is wrong with your expectations?
If you're at all honest with your self, you know this team's defense and or offense was never good enough to win it all and you simply thought Ben was an eraser who could supercede all of that if only his coach would get out of his way.
My position would be: Ben is a lottery ticket that makes you always have a puncher's chance, but even with that QB you need to have few holes and have things break right for you.
The year they beat Cincy in the playoffs, I think they were good enough to win it all but injuries killed them. Same with the KC playoff win year. The offense was fantastic the year they lost to Jags but defense was terrible. Most of the years between 2011 and 2019, they were done in by injuries-- their margin of success was too thin. In effect, they were rebuilding and maintained a level of success beyond expectations during that time, especially with a team of offensive divas.
Re: Tomlin Has Never Had A Losing Season
Posted: Mon Dec 09, 2019 2:26 am
It took 30 yards in penalties and Ben with zero accuracy in destroyed arm/shoulder to get in field goal range.bradshaw2ben wrote: ↑Mon Dec 09, 2019 2:24 amBen gets that team in FG range with or without the Burfict penalty. They had time and were moving it down the field. They basically needed on completion. So, yes, I mean that year. That should have been the first year of their run... then AB goes down, then Bell goes down, then Shazier goes down... all at very inopportune moments.K_C_ wrote: ↑Mon Dec 09, 2019 2:19 amYou mean the year Burfict personally lost a playoff game for the Bungles they already had won?bradshaw2ben wrote: ↑Mon Dec 09, 2019 2:17 am
That's true of most teams in the NFL, including several with great QBs and good coaches. WTF is wrong with your expectations?
If you're at all honest with your self, you know this team's defense and or offense was never good enough to win it all and you simply thought Ben was an eraser who could supercede all of that if only his coach would get out of his way.
My position would be: Ben is a lottery ticket that makes you always have a puncher's chance, but even with that QB you need to have few holes and have things break right for you.
The year they beat Cincy in the playoffs, I think they were good enough to win it all but injuries killed them. Same with the KC playoff win year. The offense was fantastic the year they lost to Jags but defense was terrible. Most of the years between 2011 and 2019, they were done in by injuries-- their margin of success was too thin. In effect, they were rebuilding and maintained a level of success beyond expectations during that time, especially with a team of offensive divas.
It took a miracle to beat the great AJ McCarron. The Steelers weren't winning that game without Burfict's stupidity. No way. No how.
Re: Tomlin Has Never Had A Losing Season
Posted: Mon Dec 09, 2019 2:33 am
they needed about 10-15 yards and had :22
Ben was 6 for 8 on the drive for 60 yards. He was hurting but he had enough juice to get a GW FG attempt, with or without Burfict.
Ben was 6 for 8 on the drive for 60 yards. He was hurting but he had enough juice to get a GW FG attempt, with or without Burfict.
Re: Tomlin Has Never Had A Losing Season
Posted: Mon Dec 09, 2019 2:36 am
It was a wet, shitty night. Terrible conditions to kick in. You forgot that part.bradshaw2ben wrote: ↑Mon Dec 09, 2019 2:33 amthey needed about 10-15 yards and had :22
Ben was 6 for 8 on the drive for 60 yards. He was hurting but he had enough juice to get a GW FG attempt, with or without Burfict.
Ben almost got AB killed with that throw. He had very little left in his arm. He was dumping it off. His passes over 10 yards looked horrible.
Shoulder was gone that night. They don't win without the 30 in penalty yards but you have to take whatever you can get when you face the great AJ McCarron.
Wish they got breaks like that against studs like Tim Tebow or Blake Bortles.
Re: Tomlin Has Never Had A Losing Season
Posted: Mon Dec 09, 2019 3:27 am
Talk all you want to about how Ben couldn't have gotten a FG without the Bengals' penalties with his injured arm, but that injured arm had already moved the ball from his own 10 to the Bengals' 47. You're telling me he couldn't have gotten another 17 yards in 22 seconds? Of course he could. You just don't want to give Tomlin credit for a playoff win.K_C_ wrote: ↑Mon Dec 09, 2019 2:36 amIt was a wet, shitty night. Terrible conditions to kick in. You forgot that part.bradshaw2ben wrote: ↑Mon Dec 09, 2019 2:33 amthey needed about 10-15 yards and had :22
Ben was 6 for 8 on the drive for 60 yards. He was hurting but he had enough juice to get a GW FG attempt, with or without Burfict.
Ben almost got AB killed with that throw. He had very little left in his arm. He was dumping it off. His passes over 10 yards looked horrible.
Shoulder was gone that night. They don't win without the 30 in penalty yards but you have to take whatever you can get when you face the great AJ McCarron.
Wish they got breaks like that against studs like Tim Tebow or Blake Bortles.
The Bengals were a good team, it was in their place, they were insanely out of control, we were screwed out of a TD on Shaz's fumble return.
And isn't keeping control of your players part of the game? If the Bengals weren't able to keep their players under control and we take advantage of that, why do we need to apologize for that?
Re: Tomlin Has Never Had A Losing Season
Posted: Mon Dec 09, 2019 3:58 am
Winning a Super Bowl is not a birthright.
How many fans of my age (49) of other teams can remember winning two as a kid and going to four as an adult winning two of them.
I think if Tomlin somehow won 4 more before he hangs them up Steeler fans would still have it as
1. Noll
2. Cowher
3. Tomlin
It would suck being a Browns, Bengals, Chiefs, Titans, Jets, Dolphins, Lions, Cardinals, etc.... fan
How many fans of my age (49) of other teams can remember winning two as a kid and going to four as an adult winning two of them.
I think if Tomlin somehow won 4 more before he hangs them up Steeler fans would still have it as
1. Noll
2. Cowher
3. Tomlin
It would suck being a Browns, Bengals, Chiefs, Titans, Jets, Dolphins, Lions, Cardinals, etc.... fan
Re: Tomlin Has Never Had A Losing Season
Posted: Mon Dec 09, 2019 4:30 am
rooneytunes wrote: ↑Mon Dec 09, 2019 3:58 amWinning a Super Bowl is not a birthright.
How many fans of my age (49) of other teams can remember winning two as a kid and going to four as an adult winning two of them.
I think if Tomlin somehow won 4 more before he hangs them up Steeler fans would still have it as
1. Noll
2. Cowher
3. Tomlin
It would suck being a Browns, Bengals, Chiefs, Titans, Jets, Dolphins, Lions, Cardinals, etc.... fan
Believe me it does suck ass. Most Phuns fans would trade in a
beat the last 12 years with Pitt, and they were still pretty arrogant about their team when Tomlin took over our healm. They had an opportunity to hire him before the Steelers & were thinking about a second interview with Tomlin but decided to go with the offensive genius Cam Cameron OC from SD (not so luvingly called CaMoron by the time he was fired):https://www.sun-sentinel.com/news/fl-xp ... l?&cf=1
Even my good friends who agree with the narrative that Tomlin's an idiot who lucked into a bunch of talent can't really justify an argument the Phuns wouldn't have been better served giving Tomlin that first HC shot. The only thing I like jagging them more about is the Minkah trade....their reactions when I bring it up weekly during lunch are priceless
Re: Tomlin Has Never Had A Losing Season
Posted: Mon Dec 09, 2019 4:36 am
I consider myself lucky. 4 SBs while a kid and 4 SBs as an adult. But I only got to attend the Tomlin Super Bowls.rooneytunes wrote: ↑Mon Dec 09, 2019 3:58 amWinning a Super Bowl is not a birthright.
How many fans of my age (49) of other teams can remember winning two as a kid and going to four as an adult winning two of them.
I think if Tomlin somehow won 4 more before he hangs them up Steeler fans would still have it as
1. Noll
2. Cowher
3. Tomlin
It would suck being a Browns, Bengals, Chiefs, Titans, Jets, Dolphins, Lions, Cardinals, etc.... fan
The 3 coaches are so very different.
Noll was very quiet and serious and also very private.
Cowher power was emotional and fiery on the sidelines. Fun to watch.
Tomlin is so laid back and calm no matter what happens. Fun to listen to.
And yes it would suck being a fan of a chronically losing team. But I still hold out hope that the Pirates will win one more World Series before I check out.
Re: Tomlin Has Never Had A Losing Season
Posted: Mon Dec 09, 2019 4:39 am
Now that Tomlin has secured that all-important magical 8th win, perhaps he'll loosen up the reigns on Duck and the offense....
Re: Tomlin Has Never Had A Losing Season
Posted: Mon Dec 09, 2019 4:45 am
Re: Tomlin Has Never Had A Losing Season
Posted: Mon Dec 09, 2019 4:54 am
The fans and media have made such a deal out of Tomlin never having had a losing season that a number of fans somehow think that that is important enough to Tomlin that it would actually influence how he approaches games or the season as a whole. He's going to try to win as many games as he can same as always.Texas Black & Gold wrote: ↑Mon Dec 09, 2019 4:45 amThat all important 8th win is just a stepping stone to the 9th win. But I do hope the offense can be more potent.
Re: Tomlin Has Never Had A Losing Season
Posted: Mon Dec 09, 2019 6:38 am
Boys...let’s enjoy this win. Biggest game of the year next week. Gonna be epic.
Re: Tomlin Has Never Had A Losing Season
Posted: Mon Dec 09, 2019 8:45 am
I think this is where I'm at.....Tomlin lost the lottery when Ben got hurt. Then he won the WSOP with a great, if not unusual, run of cards.
But at the end of the day he's still just a garage poker player....with better shades than Chris Moneymaker.
But at the end of the day he's still just a garage poker player....with better shades than Chris Moneymaker.