Matt Canada new QB coach.
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Orangesteel
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Former LSU OC who was interim coach at Maryland.
As long as Ben was brought into the fold on the hire, I’m good with it. Hopefully some of that LSU offense trickles down to our shitshow with Rustbelt Randy. I know Canada wasn’t responsible for what we saw on Monday night, but I love Canadians, poutine and hockey, so this is perfectly fine.
As long as Ben was brought into the fold on the hire, I’m good with it. Hopefully some of that LSU offense trickles down to our shitshow with Rustbelt Randy. I know Canada wasn’t responsible for what we saw on Monday night, but I love Canadians, poutine and hockey, so this is perfectly fine.
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Steelknife
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He’s difficult to work with. Coaches and players don’t like him. He hasn’t had much success at all since Pittsburgh.
There’s a reason this will be his third lateral (at best) move in 3 years and it’s not because he’s a star.
The next QB he develops successfully will be his first.
There’s a reason this will be his third lateral (at best) move in 3 years and it’s not because he’s a star.
The next QB he develops successfully will be his first.
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Professor Half Wit
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Sounds like a stellar hire.Steelknife wrote: ↑Wed Jan 15, 2020 6:43 pmHe’s difficult to work with. Coaches and players don’t like him. He hasn’t had much success at all since Pittsburgh.
There’s a reason this will be his third lateral (at best) move in 3 years and it’s not because he’s a star.
The next QB he develops successfully will be his first.
“Being a fan is fine, but there is a line you can cross that makes it really unhealthy,” said Ken Yeager, PhD, a mental health expert in the department of psychiatry at The Ohio State University Wexner Medical Center.
When Mason and Duck still suck, yeah, it will be a stellar hire....for Tomlin and Colbert.
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He basically walked on water at Pitt. Didn’t set the world on fire at LSU, but they recruited some good offensive players while he was there.
To be fair, every OC LSU has had from 2007 to the moment Joe Brady got there could pretty much be described as a failure. He definitely had the Panthers' offense moving in the right direction when he was there, and as an alum, I was sorry to see him go. After what happened at Maryland (not exactly a powerhouse beforehand, either), Vince Lombardi wasn't going to come in there and have success.Steelknife wrote: ↑Wed Jan 15, 2020 6:43 pmHe’s difficult to work with. Coaches and players don’t like him. He hasn’t had much success at all since Pittsburgh.
There’s a reason this will be his third lateral (at best) move in 3 years and it’s not because he’s a star.
The next QB he develops successfully will be his first.
I'll keep an open mind on this one. Pretty sure he coached The Peter Man up enough that somebody drafted him.
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Steelknife
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Not just results. LSU paid him $1.7m to leave. Orgeron called his hiring a mistake. He didn’t have a job until we just hired him.Ice wrote: ↑Wed Jan 15, 2020 7:08 pmTo be fair, every OC LSU has had from 2007 to the moment Joe Brady got there could pretty much be described as a failure. He definitely had the Panthers' offense moving in the right direction when he was there, and as an alum, I was sorry to see him go. After what happened at Maryland (not exactly a powerhouse beforehand, either), Vince Lombardi wasn't going to come in there and have success.Steelknife wrote: ↑Wed Jan 15, 2020 6:43 pmHe’s difficult to work with. Coaches and players don’t like him. He hasn’t had much success at all since Pittsburgh.
There’s a reason this will be his third lateral (at best) move in 3 years and it’s not because he’s a star.
The next QB he develops successfully will be his first.
I'll keep an open mind on this one. Pretty sure he coached The Peter Man up enough that somebody drafted him.
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Baltostiller
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How do you know that coaches and players don't like him? I know here at Maryland he stepped into a shit sandwich when the kid died at practice and the coach got shitcanned. That left him as the interim HC with a floundering team. He went 5-7 while the guy who replaced and canned him went 3-9 and has a lifetime head coaching record of 6-40.Steelknife wrote: ↑Wed Jan 15, 2020 6:43 pmHe’s difficult to work with. Coaches and players don’t like him. He hasn’t had much success at all since Pittsburgh.
There’s a reason this will be his third lateral (at best) move in 3 years and it’s not because he’s a star.
The next QB he develops successfully will be his first.
At the point Orgeron said that, his offense was likely a mess, and he was pretty much on the way to being shitcanned himself. Head coaches throw coordinators under the bus like that routinely when they're treading water. He also thought at one point that it was a pretty good idea to hire the man. I know he won a title this year (thanks to Burrow and Brady), but let's not make Ed Orgeron out to be some all-knowing god of coaching.Steelknife wrote: ↑Wed Jan 15, 2020 7:18 pmNot just results. LSU paid him $1.7m to leave. Orgeron called his hiring a mistake. He didn’t have a job until we just hired him.Ice wrote: ↑Wed Jan 15, 2020 7:08 pmTo be fair, every OC LSU has had from 2007 to the moment Joe Brady got there could pretty much be described as a failure. He definitely had the Panthers' offense moving in the right direction when he was there, and as an alum, I was sorry to see him go. After what happened at Maryland (not exactly a powerhouse beforehand, either), Vince Lombardi wasn't going to come in there and have success.Steelknife wrote: ↑Wed Jan 15, 2020 6:43 pmHe’s difficult to work with. Coaches and players don’t like him. He hasn’t had much success at all since Pittsburgh.
There’s a reason this will be his third lateral (at best) move in 3 years and it’s not because he’s a star.
The next QB he develops successfully will be his first.
I'll keep an open mind on this one. Pretty sure he coached The Peter Man up enough that somebody drafted him.
In addition to turning The Peter Man into a draftable commodity, Canada's UM offense came damn near a Big Ten upset of the century type victory in a shootout with Ohio State. The dude can coach offense. Jacoby Brissett, who he coached at NC State, has also turned out to be a starter in the NFL. So, the next quarterback he develops will not, in fact, be his first.
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Steelperch
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I think it’s a solid hire. He did a good job at Pitt, people were upset to lose him to LSU. I think Qb coach is what he’s best suited for. Beats the QB coach from last year. I would still hire a veteran OC that lost his job as an offensive assistant to get some fresh eyes on this offense.
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Baltostiller
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As I mentioned earlier, he inherited a complete shitshow at MD after the player died. He went on to upset #23 Texas in the opener and the OSU game mentioned above was the first ever start by the QB since the starter tore his ACL the previous week. We should probably withhold judgment on the guy.Ice wrote: ↑Wed Jan 15, 2020 7:43 pmAt the point Orgeron said that, his offense was likely a mess, and he was pretty much on the way to being shitcanned himself. Head coaches throw coordinators under the bus like that routinely when they're treading water. He also thought at one point that it was a pretty good idea to hire the man. I know he won a title this year (thanks to Burrow and Brady), but let's not make Ed Orgeron out to be some all-knowing god of coaching.Steelknife wrote: ↑Wed Jan 15, 2020 7:18 pmNot just results. LSU paid him $1.7m to leave. Orgeron called his hiring a mistake. He didn’t have a job until we just hired him.Ice wrote: ↑Wed Jan 15, 2020 7:08 pm
To be fair, every OC LSU has had from 2007 to the moment Joe Brady got there could pretty much be described as a failure. He definitely had the Panthers' offense moving in the right direction when he was there, and as an alum, I was sorry to see him go. After what happened at Maryland (not exactly a powerhouse beforehand, either), Vince Lombardi wasn't going to come in there and have success.
I'll keep an open mind on this one. Pretty sure he coached The Peter Man up enough that somebody drafted him.
In addition to turning The Peter Man into a draftable commodity, Canada's UM offense came damn near a Big Ten upset of the century type victory in a shootout with Ohio State. The dude can coach offense. Jacoby Brissett, who he coached at NC State, has also turned out to be a starter in the NFL. So, the next quarterback he develops will not, in fact, be his first.
Well “Duck” will likely be sucking in the XFL for his next rodeo, so there’s that.
Seriously though...I’m shocked they actually pulled the trigger and hired a dedicated QB coach.
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Matt Canada has connections running all through this PS team. Coaches and players alike...
...Eddie Faulkner, an assistant for the Steelers who spent five years under Canada at three different schools. “He doesn’t get the credit he deserves for what he’s brought to offensive football.” Canada’s units set offensive school records at Indiana (2007), Wisconsin (2012) and Pitt (2016), and most recently, as interim coach during a drama-filled season at Maryland, his offense hung a combined 85 points on Texas and Ohio State.
Many of Canada’s colleagues are shocked he doesn’t have a job, and his former players are surprised, too, stunned that schools passed on a man they believe possesses one of the more brilliant offensive minds in the game. Canada himself admits to passing on at least a couple of coordinator opportunities this offseason. All of this means that the college football world is left with a void. For at least one season, the sport is without a unique offensive scheme that manipulates defenses with movement by way of incessant presnap motions and shifts. It is a system anchored around the fly sweep, and adorned with reverses to left tackles and shovel passes to tight ends, one with fluctuating pace, loads of misdirection and an inverted triple option that confounds some of the game’s most savvy defensive gurus.
Canada’s concepts are compelling enough that they’ve crept into the NFL, with Chiefs coach Andy Reid incorporating them two years ago, followed by the Seahawks, Bears and Rams.
North Topsail Beach is a vacation community of less than 1,000 residents occupying the top half of Topsail Island. The island is known for its maritime forests and its sanctuary for sea turtles, a quiet escape for those who prefer to vacation away from the bright lights of the Outer Banks to the north and Myrtle Beach to the south. Four years ago, Matt Canada purchased this 2,300-square foot, four-bedroom beach house. The Canadas own two more homes in their cul-de-sac, along with a commercial rental property across the bridge on the mainland. Their favorite restaurant, Rick’s, is across the bridge as well. In fact, on a recent Thursday night, the Canadas enter this Pittsburgh Steelers-themed eatery to a loud greeting from a gaggle of older women seated at the bar. The Canadas are local celebrities here.
“Somebody needs to give him a shot,” Faulkner says. “I hear the same thing—he’s a hard guy to work for. That couldn’t be anything further from the truth.”
“He was open and honest in a time where we didn’t have a lot of that,” he says. Former LSU guard Garrett Brumfield called Canada “a breath of fresh air” and described his offense as “dummy proof,” hard to defend but easy to learn. “I understand how people could have thought that some of the motions and shifts were smoke and mirrors,” says Brumfield, now with the Steelers, “but I think a good bit of it worked. I thought that offense was only going to get better.”
...Eddie Faulkner, an assistant for the Steelers who spent five years under Canada at three different schools. “He doesn’t get the credit he deserves for what he’s brought to offensive football.” Canada’s units set offensive school records at Indiana (2007), Wisconsin (2012) and Pitt (2016), and most recently, as interim coach during a drama-filled season at Maryland, his offense hung a combined 85 points on Texas and Ohio State.
Many of Canada’s colleagues are shocked he doesn’t have a job, and his former players are surprised, too, stunned that schools passed on a man they believe possesses one of the more brilliant offensive minds in the game. Canada himself admits to passing on at least a couple of coordinator opportunities this offseason. All of this means that the college football world is left with a void. For at least one season, the sport is without a unique offensive scheme that manipulates defenses with movement by way of incessant presnap motions and shifts. It is a system anchored around the fly sweep, and adorned with reverses to left tackles and shovel passes to tight ends, one with fluctuating pace, loads of misdirection and an inverted triple option that confounds some of the game’s most savvy defensive gurus.
Canada’s concepts are compelling enough that they’ve crept into the NFL, with Chiefs coach Andy Reid incorporating them two years ago, followed by the Seahawks, Bears and Rams.
North Topsail Beach is a vacation community of less than 1,000 residents occupying the top half of Topsail Island. The island is known for its maritime forests and its sanctuary for sea turtles, a quiet escape for those who prefer to vacation away from the bright lights of the Outer Banks to the north and Myrtle Beach to the south. Four years ago, Matt Canada purchased this 2,300-square foot, four-bedroom beach house. The Canadas own two more homes in their cul-de-sac, along with a commercial rental property across the bridge on the mainland. Their favorite restaurant, Rick’s, is across the bridge as well. In fact, on a recent Thursday night, the Canadas enter this Pittsburgh Steelers-themed eatery to a loud greeting from a gaggle of older women seated at the bar. The Canadas are local celebrities here.
“Somebody needs to give him a shot,” Faulkner says. “I hear the same thing—he’s a hard guy to work for. That couldn’t be anything further from the truth.”
“He was open and honest in a time where we didn’t have a lot of that,” he says. Former LSU guard Garrett Brumfield called Canada “a breath of fresh air” and described his offense as “dummy proof,” hard to defend but easy to learn. “I understand how people could have thought that some of the motions and shifts were smoke and mirrors,” says Brumfield, now with the Steelers, “but I think a good bit of it worked. I thought that offense was only going to get better.”
I wonder if he's been promised the OC job when Ben retires 
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Steelknife
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No we weren’t.Steelperch wrote: ↑Wed Jan 15, 2020 8:20 pmI think it’s a solid hire. He did a good job at Pitt, people were upset to lose him to LSU. I think Qb coach is what he’s best suited for. Beats the QB coach from last year. I would still hire a veteran OC that lost his job as an offensive assistant to get some fresh eyes on this offense.
Edit: nvm misread. Thought you said upset to lose him AT LSU.
Contrary to popular belief, life doesn't revolve around money. The SF podcast late in the season with one of the rooney's made that pretty clear.
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Baltostiller
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Maybe he will bump Rust Belt Randy in front of a bus “accidentally “ of course.
Well, if the young QB's don't pan out we can always...blame Canada...
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Jeezus man, it was...nevermind.
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SteelerDayTrader
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Im shocked the Steelers have catapulted into standard 1980s football thinking and hired a QB coach. 
Unbelievable
Sounds like a bright guy. No offense to LSU but I could totally see an advanced thinker type being an outcast at a redneck school like that
Unbelievable
Sounds like a bright guy. No offense to LSU but I could totally see an advanced thinker type being an outcast at a redneck school like that
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When you take a mediocre program like Pitt to the top red zone td percentage you are doing something right
throughout his college coaching career Canada has mostly been an offensive coordinator and quarterbacks coach. In 2016 Canada was a finalist for the Broyles Award, an honor given to the top assistant coach in college football. That season he coached next door at the University of Pittsburgh and the team averaged a school-record 42 points per game with the school’s offense leading the nation in red-zone touchdown percentage (82%). Pittsburgh scored at least 28 points in all 12 regular-season games that season, including a 43-42 victory at eventual national champion Clemson.
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I love this hire and the type of coaching prospect that they went after. I wanted them to hire somebody as the QB coach, who also has experience as an OC, even if we are only talking about college. I don't care if some think he is difficult, confident, talented coaches often come across that way to some people.
Randy needed that strong right hand, needed someone to concentrate on the QBs and also give him insights, fresh eyes, perspective and knowledge on developing a new offense.
And make no mistake, this offense has to change. We don't have veterans at the skill positions, they are all young and getting younger. What if we draft a RB, WR and TE?? Even more young players. Also, Ben coming off injury to his throwing arm, I can't see him throwing 675 pass attempts like he did in 2018.
No, this offense has to change, Ben has to be throw the ball some 200 times fewer in 2020. The running game has to get better, has to be an equal part in this offense.
The days of Ben using his big time arm and forcing/throwing into tight windows, or running around buying time waiting for players to get open are over. They have to be smarter, actually design an offense around him instead of relying on him to be the offense. It may seem like a subtle distinction but it will be huge if they can pull it off.
Randy needed that strong right hand, needed someone to concentrate on the QBs and also give him insights, fresh eyes, perspective and knowledge on developing a new offense.
And make no mistake, this offense has to change. We don't have veterans at the skill positions, they are all young and getting younger. What if we draft a RB, WR and TE?? Even more young players. Also, Ben coming off injury to his throwing arm, I can't see him throwing 675 pass attempts like he did in 2018.
No, this offense has to change, Ben has to be throw the ball some 200 times fewer in 2020. The running game has to get better, has to be an equal part in this offense.
The days of Ben using his big time arm and forcing/throwing into tight windows, or running around buying time waiting for players to get open are over. They have to be smarter, actually design an offense around him instead of relying on him to be the offense. It may seem like a subtle distinction but it will be huge if they can pull it off.
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I am glad they added a QB coach and now if he can help out with the scheme even better.
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Steelknife
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There is zero chance Matt Canada and Big Ben will have a good working relationship. I can’t think of many pairing more oil and water than this. I hope I’m wrong. I will bump this when I’m not. You thought his relationship with Haley was bad?
Ben will do what he does. The QB coach is mostly for the other quarterbacks on the roster.
Yeah, Canada is the QB coach but read between the lines. From what I understand Rooney was all over this hiring. If you think about it, over the years, how has this team filled vacancies in their offensive and defensive coordinators?? In the vast majority of the cases it was by promoting from within.
Yes, you can point to them hiring a Todd Haley in recent memory, but how has it gone for the most part, what is the Steelers plan for replacing OC and DCs?? Over the last 25 years??
Dick LeBeau was promoted to DC from being the Secondary coach
Tim Lewis did the same, he was promoted to DC after being the Secondary coach.
Kieth Butler was promoted to DC after being the LB coach.
Chan Gailey was promoted to OC after being the WR coach.
Mike Mularkey was promoted to OC after being the TE coach.
Ken Whisenhunt was promoted to OC after being the TE coach.
Bruce Arians was promoted to OC after being the WR coach.
Randy Fitchner was promoted to OC after being the QB coach.
So, Matt Canada in the near future could very well be promoted to Offensive Coordinator just like the 8 coaches I just mentioned. This is what the Steelers do, they don't look outside the organization to fill these OC and DC vacancies directly, no, they promote from within, after they have years of knowledge of them as a position coach and a comfort level in knowing that it will be a good move to promote them.
What has been missing lately, is that the Steelers were sort of remiss in hiring assistant coaches that wanted to be more than their current station. Eddie Faulkner, the hiring of him last season, struck me as a very good hire. He appears by all accounts to be somebody who is ambitious and wants to move up the ladder. Why can't Faulkner in time be like KC's Eric Bieniemy, a former RB, and RB coach who is now an OC for one of the best offenses in the NFL? All of the former QB coaches that are now offensive coordinators why can't Canada do the same? Why can't he join the ranks of former Steelers assistants like Gailey, Mularkey, Whisenhunt, Arians and Fitchner??
The better your assistant position coaches, the better you are as a team, and especially so if they are ambitious and want to become OCs or Head Coaches. Like I said, love the hire and that they specifically went after somebody who has credentials and experience.
My only issue is that I was saying this last offseason, that we needed a real QB coach, that Fitchner would be stretched too thin to deal with the young QBs and run the offense. If only Rooney/Tomlin/Colbert would come here to SteelerFury and get some helpful tips from time to time.
I would love to see the Steelers complete the coaching roster by moving on from Ray Sherman and bringing in a new WR coach. Sherman stepped in after the passing of Drake, but he strikes me as somebody who wants to retire and don't we need a WR coach to come in and be counted on to develop these young WRs over the next 2, 3, 4 years?? That would be a shame to have this young WR group be in a constant state of flux as maybe Sherman stays on this year but then retires in 2021? Nip this in the bud and just hire a new WR coach right now.
Yes, you can point to them hiring a Todd Haley in recent memory, but how has it gone for the most part, what is the Steelers plan for replacing OC and DCs?? Over the last 25 years??
Dick LeBeau was promoted to DC from being the Secondary coach
Tim Lewis did the same, he was promoted to DC after being the Secondary coach.
Kieth Butler was promoted to DC after being the LB coach.
Chan Gailey was promoted to OC after being the WR coach.
Mike Mularkey was promoted to OC after being the TE coach.
Ken Whisenhunt was promoted to OC after being the TE coach.
Bruce Arians was promoted to OC after being the WR coach.
Randy Fitchner was promoted to OC after being the QB coach.
So, Matt Canada in the near future could very well be promoted to Offensive Coordinator just like the 8 coaches I just mentioned. This is what the Steelers do, they don't look outside the organization to fill these OC and DC vacancies directly, no, they promote from within, after they have years of knowledge of them as a position coach and a comfort level in knowing that it will be a good move to promote them.
What has been missing lately, is that the Steelers were sort of remiss in hiring assistant coaches that wanted to be more than their current station. Eddie Faulkner, the hiring of him last season, struck me as a very good hire. He appears by all accounts to be somebody who is ambitious and wants to move up the ladder. Why can't Faulkner in time be like KC's Eric Bieniemy, a former RB, and RB coach who is now an OC for one of the best offenses in the NFL? All of the former QB coaches that are now offensive coordinators why can't Canada do the same? Why can't he join the ranks of former Steelers assistants like Gailey, Mularkey, Whisenhunt, Arians and Fitchner??
The better your assistant position coaches, the better you are as a team, and especially so if they are ambitious and want to become OCs or Head Coaches. Like I said, love the hire and that they specifically went after somebody who has credentials and experience.
My only issue is that I was saying this last offseason, that we needed a real QB coach, that Fitchner would be stretched too thin to deal with the young QBs and run the offense. If only Rooney/Tomlin/Colbert would come here to SteelerFury and get some helpful tips from time to time.
I would love to see the Steelers complete the coaching roster by moving on from Ray Sherman and bringing in a new WR coach. Sherman stepped in after the passing of Drake, but he strikes me as somebody who wants to retire and don't we need a WR coach to come in and be counted on to develop these young WRs over the next 2, 3, 4 years?? That would be a shame to have this young WR group be in a constant state of flux as maybe Sherman stays on this year but then retires in 2021? Nip this in the bud and just hire a new WR coach right now.
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Well, that redneck school is designated as an R1 university. Probably has one or two sufferable folks he could have found to hang out with.SteelerDayTrader wrote: ↑Thu Jan 16, 2020 2:01 amNo offense to LSU but I could totally see an advanced thinker type being an outcast at a redneck school like that
“Being a fan is fine, but there is a line you can cross that makes it really unhealthy,” said Ken Yeager, PhD, a mental health expert in the department of psychiatry at The Ohio State University Wexner Medical Center.
