Well. How is everyone doing with this thing? NFL free agency may be only sports happening for a while.

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Re: Well. How is everyone doing with this thing? NFL free agency may be only sports happening for a while.

Post by stinger8 » Mon Mar 23, 2020 11:20 pm

CORE-TEN wrote:
Mon Mar 23, 2020 7:27 pm
R_S wrote:
Mon Mar 23, 2020 7:15 pm
CORE-TEN wrote:
Mon Mar 23, 2020 6:06 pm
Cynicism (an easy "out") over the media and whataboutism/ false equivalency is a fabrication. I hope you know that. CNN, as much as they might make mistakes, isn't even in the same category as fox with carlson and hannity. Not.Even.Close. Both follow the money, but one misinforms and manipulates through propaganda. Remember how Fox news was calling this virus a liberal hoax? Based on the comments here, I see many still think that's the case.
Sounds like a very unbiased view you have. :lol: :lol: :lol:
You wouldn't know *unbiased* if it bit you in the ass.

I never said cnn isn't biased. Or MSNBC for that matter. But to say those are the same as fox is lunacy. The Australian Gov told the FCC that murdoch was a cancer, and shouldn't give him an FCC license. Because he engages in yellow journalism and lies. Purposefully to manipulate public opinion. But he generates cash, so it's all good.

Keep living in your bubble.
Fox tried to get a license to broadcast in Canada, the government did their due diligence and told Fox to GET FUCKED no propaganda allowed.



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Post by stinger8 » Mon Mar 23, 2020 11:27 pm

R_S wrote:
Mon Mar 23, 2020 8:31 pm
CORE-TEN wrote:
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Mon Mar 23, 2020 7:50 pm
Glad to see this is turning into a political thread.
Ahh yes. WHaaaaaaaa!! Any criticism of anything is suddenly partisan. It effectively censors people. Which I guess is what is desired. whiny motherfuckers can't cope with being told they fucked up. Nope. Cant say anything critical because libs politicize everything.

If dems win the white house, I expect all conservatives to shut the fuck up.
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Something is troubling me, that is your blatant hiprocisy. You talk shit then when you get challenged you say shit like "Is something troubling you" STFU

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Post by El Kabong » Mon Mar 23, 2020 11:31 pm

CORE-TEN wrote:
Mon Mar 23, 2020 6:06 pm
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It's possible to think both Fox News AND CNN are full of crap.
Cynicism (an easy "out") over the media and whataboutism/ false equivalency is a fabrication. I hope you know that. CNN, as much as they might make mistakes, isn't even in the same category as fox with carlson and hannity. Not.Even.Close. Both follow the money, but one misinforms and manipulates through propaganda. Remember how Fox news was calling this virus a liberal hoax? Based on the comments here, I see many still think that's the case.
I am not doing false equivalency. Both Fox and CNN have given me reasons to believe they are full of crap.

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Post by Pabst » Tue Mar 24, 2020 12:09 am

stinger8 wrote:
Mon Mar 23, 2020 11:20 pm
CORE-TEN wrote:
Mon Mar 23, 2020 7:27 pm
R_S wrote:
Mon Mar 23, 2020 7:15 pm


Sounds like a very unbiased view you have. :lol: :lol: :lol:
You wouldn't know *unbiased* if it bit you in the ass.

I never said cnn isn't biased. Or MSNBC for that matter. But to say those are the same as fox is lunacy. The Australian Gov told the FCC that murdoch was a cancer, and shouldn't give him an FCC license. Because he engages in yellow journalism and lies. Purposefully to manipulate public opinion. But he generates cash, so it's all good.

Keep living in your bubble.
Fox tried to get a license to broadcast in Canada, the government did their due diligence and told Fox to GET FUCKED no propaganda allowed.
We're 2 for 2 on repeating bogus internet rumors about Fox
https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/canadian-fox/

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Post by R_S » Tue Mar 24, 2020 12:37 am

Maybe there is something to this fake news thing afterall. Eh Core?

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Post by CORE-TEN » Tue Mar 24, 2020 12:51 am

I see it as 1-1.
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Post by Stlcrtn1974 » Tue Mar 24, 2020 2:26 am

R_S wrote:
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Maybe there is something to this fake news thing afterall. Eh Core?
Old Soviet style techniques still works. Putin's divide and conquer working like a charm.

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Post by Alibe » Tue Mar 24, 2020 12:26 pm

Just want to say that I am enjoying the back and forth of this topic. I know politics is normally prohibited but in this time it is vital not to quash these ideas. This thread is about our life and how we are managing. It involves what is being done by politicians that were elected by us to manage this country. We have a media that is at odds with the truth at times. In some cases it is a propaganda machine to protect those in office. It is important to this football family to be allowed to run ideas and insults by us. We are adults. We can take the truth! Let us filter it.

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Post by K_C_ » Tue Mar 24, 2020 1:13 pm

Where is anybody seeing Fox (I'd never call them "news") is rated higher for accuracy than CNN?

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Post by jebrick » Tue Mar 24, 2020 1:27 pm

The Fox News people ( who actually do the news) are quite good. Their opinion people ( Hannity, Fox and Friends, ect) are a propaganda arm of the White House. No different than MSNBC. News good. Opinion very slanted.

The problem that has started on Fox News is that the news people have been ordered to report the news only in certain light. That is why Shep Smith retired after 23 years on Fox News

https://www.forbes.com/sites/terinaalle ... -fox-news/

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Post by stinger8 » Tue Mar 24, 2020 1:53 pm

Pabst wrote:
Tue Mar 24, 2020 12:09 am
stinger8 wrote:
Mon Mar 23, 2020 11:20 pm
CORE-TEN wrote:
Mon Mar 23, 2020 7:27 pm
You wouldn't know *unbiased* if it bit you in the ass.

I never said cnn isn't biased. Or MSNBC for that matter. But to say those are the same as fox is lunacy. The Australian Gov told the FCC that murdoch was a cancer, and shouldn't give him an FCC license. Because he engages in yellow journalism and lies. Purposefully to manipulate public opinion. But he generates cash, so it's all good.

Keep living in your bubble.
Fox tried to get a license to broadcast in Canada, the government did their due diligence and told Fox to GET FUCKED no propaganda allowed.
We're 2 for 2 on repeating bogus internet rumors about Fox
https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/canadian-fox/
There is not 1 Canadian based broadcaster remotely similar to FAUX, because the populace would not support or tolerate it to the point that it could survive. Getting back to this subject please watch the video below I know you probably have already as it outlines the incredible hypocrisy of the mouth-breathing knuckledraggers who are on air at FAUX. 1 day is its no big deal hey everybody carry on dont worry, take a flight, hey you can now get into your favourite restaurants, to we must take this seriously, its dangerous.

Did you ever see this on another network? Did CNN do this ABC, NBC, CBS, MSNBC??? Nope. You know Orange Foolious sent over the directive to protect his incredible economy

https://www.marketwatch.com/story/fox-n ... 2020-03-18

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Post by Pabst » Tue Mar 24, 2020 2:01 pm

The irony here is that I don't watch Fox at all. All I've done is point out that 2 statements made about the network were factually incorrect.

I really enjoy seeing people lose their shit when you point out their preconceived assumptions are wrong.

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Post by Kodiak » Tue Mar 24, 2020 3:09 pm

Fox in the afternoon is actually pretty good. The straight news people. A study about 12 or 18 months in showed the straight Fox programming was 52% negative on Trump, while it had been 38% negative on Obama. The other networks, meanwhile, were more like 90-95% negative on Trump vs. about 18% on Obama.

The morning and primetime shows are a right-wing versions of what CNN used to be. CNN today is at war with Trump, and their credibility and "journalism" is circling the toilet.
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Post by K_C_ » Tue Mar 24, 2020 3:29 pm

Kodiak wrote:
Tue Mar 24, 2020 3:09 pm
Fox in the afternoon is actually pretty good. The straight news people. A study about 12 or 18 months in showed the straight Fox programming was 52% negative on Trump, while it had been 38% negative on Obama. The other networks, meanwhile, were more like 90-95% negative on Trump vs. about 18% on Obama.

The morning and primetime shows are a right-wing versions of what CNN used to be. CNN today is at war with Trump, and their credibility and "journalism" is circling the toilet.
Let me get this straight: CNN is "at war" with a Reality TV star and 6 times bankrupted businessman (who's daddy gave him 413 million bucks to get started) that has verifiably lied over 16,000 times since he took office, had to pay 25 million dollars in restitution for fraud after he created a fake, for profit university and stole from his own charitable foundation (which no longer exists, wanna guess why?) and had to pay 2 million for that little bout with corruption. A guy who has had illegals working in his hotels and resorts for decades (I live in South Florida so please don't attempt to bullshit me on this one) but pretends to be against illegal immigration. A guy who cheated on every one of his wives and girlfriends and even paid off a porn star (who laughed and made fun of his shrimp dick :lol: ) right before the 2016 election so that the American people had no idea it went on.


This is the guy CNN is at war with and they have damaged credibility? BWAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!! :lol:
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Post by K_C_ » Tue Mar 24, 2020 3:34 pm

Oh and let me add, before anybody tries to label me as a Republican hater, I had EVERY INTENTION of voting Republican in the 2016 election, if someone with a working brain like John Kasich of Jeb Bush would have gotten the nomination. I did not like Hillary one bit. She was a terrible candidate and while I'm no Bernie fan, she helped screw him out of the nomination.

...but....the very fucking second I learned that this fat orange criminal piece of shit got the Republican nomination, I ran to the polls to vote for Hillary.

As fast as I could.

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Post by R_S » Tue Mar 24, 2020 4:31 pm

How'd that work out

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Post by K_C_ » Tue Mar 24, 2020 4:43 pm

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How'd that work out
Sick burn.

Donnie got elected despite getting 3 million fewer votes that the widely disliked Hillary Clinton.

Bernie supporters either stayed home, voted for somebody like Jill Stein or some were so pissed, they voted for the fat orange bumbling stooge just to show Ol' Hillary.

Well, they sure showed her.

What happens this November with the Independents and Bernie supporters will be the key. We'll find out if they believe Fat Donnie is doing a bang up job.

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Post by K_C_ » Tue Mar 24, 2020 4:44 pm

Weird though, I don't see many "fact checkers" running in to challenge what I wrote as untrue.

:lol:

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Post by R_S » Tue Mar 24, 2020 5:10 pm

down with the electoral college

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Post by jebrick » Tue Mar 24, 2020 5:21 pm

R_S wrote:
Tue Mar 24, 2020 5:10 pm
down with the electoral college
Electoral college is needed so this does not become a East coast - West coast choose the President

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Post by R_S » Tue Mar 24, 2020 5:22 pm

jebrick wrote:
Tue Mar 24, 2020 5:21 pm
R_S wrote:
Tue Mar 24, 2020 5:10 pm
down with the electoral college
Electoral college is needed so this does not become a East coast - West coast choose the President
But when it doesn't work out the way a side wants it, we must change the rules so it will.

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Post by truckstoppornpatron » Tue Mar 24, 2020 5:24 pm

955876 wrote:
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Any microbe named after a beer can't be that bad.
But what if it is named after a bad beer to begin with??

The Ron logic holds true in this case as well. If it had some dicked up name, I might be scared.

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Post by K_C_ » Tue Mar 24, 2020 5:57 pm

R_S wrote:
Tue Mar 24, 2020 5:22 pm
jebrick wrote:
Tue Mar 24, 2020 5:21 pm
R_S wrote:
Tue Mar 24, 2020 5:10 pm
down with the electoral college
Electoral college is needed so this does not become a East coast - West coast choose the President
But when it doesn't work out the way a side wants it, we must change the rules so it will.
Where did I say I had a problem with the Electoral College?

That's you, son.

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Post by Thrillsseeker » Tue Mar 24, 2020 6:11 pm

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Oh and let me add, before anybody tries to label me as a Republican hater, I had EVERY INTENTION of voting Republican in the 2016 election, if someone with a working brain like John Kasich of Jeb Bush would have gotten the nomination. I did not like Hillary one bit. She was a terrible candidate and while I'm no Bernie fan, she helped screw him out of the nomination.

...but....the very fucking second I learned that this fat orange criminal piece of shit got the Republican nomination, I ran to the polls to vote for Hillary.

As fast as I could.
Must be you didn't run fast enough? Because........
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Post by Thrillsseeker » Tue Mar 24, 2020 6:12 pm

Ps. Fuck politics.

Fuck politics here even harder.

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Post by jewelsongs » Tue Mar 24, 2020 6:12 pm

jebrick wrote:
Tue Mar 24, 2020 5:21 pm
R_S wrote:
Tue Mar 24, 2020 5:10 pm
down with the electoral college
Electoral college is needed so this does not become a East coast - West coast choose the President
The people should decide who wins. If the most people live on the east and west coast, so be it.

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Post by CORE-TEN » Tue Mar 24, 2020 6:13 pm

R_S wrote:
Tue Mar 24, 2020 5:22 pm
jebrick wrote:
Tue Mar 24, 2020 5:21 pm
R_S wrote:
Tue Mar 24, 2020 5:10 pm
down with the electoral college
Electoral college is needed so this does not become a East coast - West coast choose the President
But when it doesn't work out the way a side wants it, we must change the rules so it will.
You do realize trump said in 2016 (and before) the elections were rigged, and the electoral college should be abolished. And then he won, and said that the electoral college is great, and shouldn't be dissolved. I think the point being made is that conservatives keep saying the people spoke, and chose conservatism. Well, they did. And it was three million more votes for clinton.

Further, why should a sparsely populated area have the same amount of power to choose the president as densely populated areas? I've heard this complaint before. That the coasts shouldn't be choosing a president. Well, then why should 10 people in buttfuck idaho decide? This is not representation. So far, it's minority rule. That much is undisputed. It's like business. Don't get a fair market share? Too bad.

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Post by K_C_ » Tue Mar 24, 2020 6:18 pm

Thrillsseeker wrote:
Tue Mar 24, 2020 6:11 pm
K_C_ wrote:
Tue Mar 24, 2020 3:34 pm
Oh and let me add, before anybody tries to label me as a Republican hater, I had EVERY INTENTION of voting Republican in the 2016 election, if someone with a working brain like John Kasich of Jeb Bush would have gotten the nomination. I did not like Hillary one bit. She was a terrible candidate and while I'm no Bernie fan, she helped screw him out of the nomination.

...but....the very fucking second I learned that this fat orange criminal piece of shit got the Republican nomination, I ran to the polls to vote for Hillary.

As fast as I could.
Must be you didn't run fast enough? Because........
Yep he sure is.

You know what's weird though?

I don't hear any inbred Trump supporters touting the stock market anymore?

I never hear "how's your 401k" anymore?

Why's that? :lol:

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Post by CORE-TEN » Tue Mar 24, 2020 6:26 pm

Fox and the president downplayed the virus, and in the early stages actually said dems were using it as a way to criticize the president because he didn't recognize the seriousness and waited a month to act. Because he did. Wait, and suggest it's no big deal. He's lied about all kinds of shit. The orange one knows how to use language to manipulate, and using the term "hoax" falls in line with that strategy. That way he can actually call the virus a hoax and then pull back and say nah, it's a dem hoax. The same as : no meetings with russians. Well, ok, meetings but it was about babies. Ok. No. It was about oppo research.

I think most everybody knows that fox sows divisiveness and demonizes liberals, spreading misinformation and conspiracy theories. Seth Rich anybody? I don't see CNN doing that. But it astounds me that people actually think fox is a legitimate news source, on par with anybody else. Fox's business model is to create conflict and division. It's dumbfounding how people can't see this. They are the ones that created this us vs them dynamic. And I'm not endorsing CNN. There is no whataboutism and false equivalencies.

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Post by R_S » Tue Mar 24, 2020 6:31 pm

Holy Christ. Blaming Trump for the world market dropping over a virus from China! Yep. Blame him for everything, not matter what. You should get out of the markets while you can. They are never going back up when this is over..................................................... :lol:

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