Tua scores 13 on wonderlic

[R_S]

https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/2020 ... er-report/



Lamar Jackson did the same.

I dont think the kid will be able to perform at a high level without a level of gimmick on the NFL

[Dan Smith--BYU]

Joe Burrow is increasingly looking like a generational QB.

[Jobu]

Joe Burrow is increasingly looking like a generational QB.

Unfortunately, he’ll end up in Cincinnati...where generational QBs go to die.

[Pabst]

Wonderlic scores are a mixed bag for QBs. Johnny Manziel had a better score than Drew Brees, Peyton Manning, or Big Ben. Blaine Gabbert scored a 42. Read into it what you will.

An old friend of mine who worked in the Chiefs' front office told me two things about the Wonderlic:
1. Exceptionally low scores are a red flag
2. Exceptionally high scores are a red flag at certain positions. Particularly RB, LB, and S.

[Donnie Brasco]

Wasn't it Vince Young who scored like a 7?

I administer and score Wonderlic tests. Note that the dead median of the general population average is a 22

[Ice]

Joe Burrow is increasingly looking like a generational QB.

As long as you think Andy Dalton and Tony Romo were generational QBs, you have a decent chance of being right.

[Pabst]

Wasn't it Vince Young who scored like a 7?

I administer and score Wonderlic tests. Note that the dead median of the general population average is a 22

Yep.

Frank Gore scored a 6

Morris Claiborne scored a 4 (although he claims to have blown the test off)

[Dan Smith--BYU]

Andy Dalton and Tony Romo weren't as accurate as Burrow. And Romo was a lot better than Dalton.

I really don't know what else he could have done in his senior year to prove his skill set.

[Pabst]

Andy Dalton and Tony Romo weren't as accurate as Burrow. And Romo was a lot better than Dalton.

I really don't know what else he could have done in his senior year to prove his skill set.

It's less about his senior season and more about what he did (not) do for the rest of his college career. As great as he was, that performance last year came out of nowhere.

[Ice]

Andy Dalton and Tony Romo weren't as accurate as Burrow. And Romo was a lot better than Dalton.

I really don't know what else he could have done in his senior year to prove his skill set.

With the loaded skill positions, best line in CFB and perfect coach at the perfect time, let's just say he was put in a pretty good position to succeed. Easy to look accurate when they're always open and you have forever to survey the field. Look at his previous season, and you'll see a very different story. He'll possibly be a good NFL starter. His floor is Daltonish, his ceiling is Romo-ish. He's a risky 1st overall pick. I've seen him since he arrived in Columbus, I know of what I speak.

[Ice]

I know of what I speak.

I consider being laughed at by you the equivalent of a sincere compliment from a non-troglodyte.

[Steeldrama]

Small difference but Tua actually scored a 19 not the originally reported 13 on the wonderlic

https://rolltidewire.usatoday.com/2020/ ... lic-score/

[Ice]

Well, that's a lot closer to the mean, at least, so it's somewhat significant.

Original score probably leaked by Belichick and Adams.

[zeke5123]

Big difference between a 19 and a 13. As someone posted at the top, for football wonderlic only matters at the extremes. 13 is getting into that extreme. 19 is okay for football.

[Jobu]

Well, that's a lot closer to the mean, at least, so it's somewhat significant.

Original score probably leaked by Belichick and Adams.

No doubt...

[FortyThree]

I bet if they let his dad stand there and beat him every time he got a question right he would've done better.

[VeritasSteel]

Ben scored a 24.

The problem with this is stated here.https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2 ... rlic-leak/ leaking scores is a problem in that how can we trust a person giving us the legitimate scores. Usually, the test is given after a workout and players just want to get it over with because it's not a metric that SHOULD affect their draft status. I agree you want your QB to score high on the test. However, I find it fascinating that people bring up Vince Young's 17 as the low benchmark and never Jeff George's 10-ever.

In context D Watson scored a 20 the lowest in his draft class and there's only one of those guys you would want instead of him and he scored a 24. Both don't seem to be hindered by their lack of Wonderlic scores.

Brad Kaaya, Miami 34
Nate Peterman, Pittsburgh (former Tennessee) 32
Trevor Knight, Texas A&M 30
Josh Dobbs, Tennessee 29
DeShone Kizer, Notre Dame 28
CJ Beathard, Iowa 26
Mitchell Trubisky, UNC 25
Davis Webb, Cal 25
Patrick Mahomes, Texas Tech 24
Chad Kelly, Ole Miss 22
Jerod Evans, Virginia Tech 21
Deshaun Watson, Clemson 20

I believe that this test is one of those hindsight things as evident with Young. So when he goes on to become a bust you can point at the Wonderlic as the reason. Rightly or wrongly based on whatever reason. I believe that Ben gets a Wonderlic score pass because of his clear professional ability. We label him as a "gunslinger" as a way to explain some of the boneheaded throws he has made not the fact that he might be "slow" with his 24 Wonderlic .

[ol skool]

I find it interesting that Aerospace Engineering major Josh Dobbs scored a mere 29.

[Jobu]

Wasn't it Vince Young who scored like a 7?

I think it was actually 6.

[SteelerDayTrader]

I consider being laughed at by you the equivalent of a sincere compliment from a non-troglodyte.

Oh I know you do.... But the fact is, in real life I'm in intimate relationships with Dr's and lawyers, both of which could double as Victoria's secret models. Now I am an extremely good looking guy, just the hand I was dealt, but do you think these women of obvious high intellect would engage in decades long relationships with someone that wasn't at least close to their intellectual equals?

Your football posts sure dont show it Biberty Jr.

[Thrillsseeker]

My apologies but for awhile I’ve thought truckstoppornpatron was STD.

Truck, are you Barney? Can’t be an actual new poster.

Either way this is the best site on the interwebs.

Hope we have our annual draft room chat going for the draft.

[Ice]

He's Lynch, Thrill.

[Ice]

I consider being laughed at by you the equivalent of a sincere compliment from a non-troglodyte.

Oh I know you do.... But the fact is, in real life I'm in intimate relationships with Dr's and lawyers, both of which could double as Victoria's secret models. Now I am an extremely good looking guy, just the hand I was dealt, but do you think these women of obvious high intellect would engage in decades long relationships with someone that wasn't at least close to their intellectual equals?

This is almost as good as "I work in a bank." On second thought, maybe better. It's good to know you're a trog with a healthy fantasy life.

[zeke5123]

Ben scored a 24.

The problem with this is stated here.https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2 ... rlic-leak/ leaking scores is a problem in that how can we trust a person giving us the legitimate scores. Usually, the test is given after a workout and players just want to get it over with because it's not a metric that SHOULD affect their draft status. I agree you want your QB to score high on the test. However, I find it fascinating that people bring up Vince Young's 17 as the low benchmark and never Jeff George's 10-ever.

In context D Watson scored a 20 the lowest in his draft class and there's only one of those guys you would want instead of him and he scored a 24. Both don't seem to be hindered by their lack of Wonderlic scores.

Brad Kaaya, Miami 34
Nate Peterman, Pittsburgh (former Tennessee) 32
Trevor Knight, Texas A&M 30
Josh Dobbs, Tennessee 29
DeShone Kizer, Notre Dame 28
CJ Beathard, Iowa 26
Mitchell Trubisky, UNC 25
Davis Webb, Cal 25
Patrick Mahomes, Texas Tech 24
Chad Kelly, Ole Miss 22
Jerod Evans, Virginia Tech 21
Deshaun Watson, Clemson 20

I believe that this test is one of those hindsight things as evident with Young. So when he goes on to become a bust you can point at the Wonderlic as the reason. Rightly or wrongly based on whatever reason. I believe that Ben gets a Wonderlic score pass because of his clear professional ability. We label him as a "gunslinger" as a way to explain some of the boneheaded throws he has made not the fact that he might be "slow" with his 24 Wonderlic .

As has been stated, no one really worries about middling scores (playing football, even at the QB position, isn't rocket science). It is the very low scores that are a red flag.

Kind of like Stenosis Jones. I am not sure benching a fuck-ton is indicative of good football ability. Nor am I sure running a fast 40 is indicative of good football ability. Same thing for a good cone score. However, I am sure that being really bad in all three areas is indicative of someone who won't be able to play at the NFL level.

Also, people don't remember Jeff George because it was before the prolifertation of draftniks. Also, Young's reported score was eitehr 6 or 7 (which is lower than 10).

[Jobu]

He's Lynch, Thrill.

AKA...Switzer

[Ice]

He's Lynch, Thrill.

AKA...Switzer

Which explains his infatuation with... Switzer.

[Ice]

You should consider trying your hand at longer-form fiction sometime.

[Pabst]

If you're going to troll, could you at least be funny and/or original?

[Ice]

Sometimes I wonder why you didn't decide to ply your "talents" over on, say, patsfans.com.

[El Kabong]

Folks, I'm not and have never been the poaster switzer.

I believe this. Your posting style is entirely different from Switz's.