Social Distancing & Face Masks

[blu]

I just hope that Mike Tomlin has personally been calling each player & prospect telling them that how it important that is & will be to the team's safety. I hope he also tells them that if/when they go to a bar or restaurant to sit out on the patio. I don't believe that anyone here is foolish enough to think that wearing a face mask has a political significance. I also hope that for 2020 that the NFL requires plastic face shields on all helmets.

[bradshaw2ben]

Have heard multiple sports "experts" suggesting that smart teams will encourage their players to get infected now, so that they won't have to miss time during the season.

[955876]

I just hope that Mike Tomlin has personally been calling each player & prospect telling them that how it important that is & will be to the team's safety. I hope he also tells them that if/when they go to a bar or restaurant to sit out on the patio. I don't believe that anyone here is foolish enough to think that wearing a face mask has a political significance. I also hope that for 2020 that the NFL requires plastic face shields on all helmets.

He can tell em. Doesn’t mean they’ll listen.

I get the point of your post though.

[Texas Black & Gold]

Have heard multiple sports "experts" suggesting that smart teams will encourage their players to get infected now, so that they won't have to miss time during the season.

Believe it or not I said something like that on here a month ago. Many of these athletes are young and among the fittest people in the country. If they can't ward off the virus then there really isn't much hope for the rest of us. But clearly it would be a risky endeavor.

[Ice]

I don't think Banner's physician would agree, nor McCullers.

[jebrick]

https://www.washingtonpost.com/sports/2 ... fl-season/

Von Miller got the virus early. Read his account on how it was.

Q: What was the worst part for you?

A: Not being able to breathe. I got asthma, but it was past the asthma attack — like my lungs were constricting. My asthma nebulizer helped, but it still didn’t feel like it was supposed to. That was the most frightening part. Just going to sleep knowing that my oxygen level could drop and I could wake up and have to go to the hospital.

You can’t really taste. You can’t really smell. That in turn kind of messes with your appetite, so you’re not really eating like you’re supposed to. The first four, five days I was honestly nervous. I wouldn’t say that I thought I was going to die or anything like that, but it did cross my mind a little bit.

Q: You play a cardiovascular sport that requires conditioning and burst. What concerns do you have about long-term lung damage?

A: Taking 17 days off and then trying to get back into it, I really feel it. I still feel my lungs trying to get back in shape. It’s just all the wear and tear that it puts on your lungs. I’ve got asthma on top of that, so to try to run with asthma and then try to run after the coronavirus, that’s what I think some of the shortness of breath comes from.

[Donnie Brasco]

Have heard multiple sports "experts" suggesting that smart teams will encourage their players to get infected now, so that they won't have to miss time during the season.

So South Park predicted the future?

[jebrick]

Have heard multiple sports "experts" suggesting that smart teams will encourage their players to get infected now, so that they won't have to miss time during the season.

So South Park predicted the future?

Just rub a Chinese person on them

https://youtu.be/sckSb2-4vp8

[Texas Black & Gold]

Have heard multiple sports "experts" suggesting that smart teams will encourage their players to get infected now, so that they won't have to miss time during the season.

So South Park predicted the future?

Just rub a Chinese person on them

https://youtu.be/sckSb2-4vp8

LMAO at the humor.

Or apparently you could just go out in the sun for a while.

https://www.foxnews.com/health/summer-r ... study-says

[LakecrestSteeler]

At some point the mask will be like wearing those rain jackets to clean up the graphite on the roof of Chernobyl. Just Lynus’ blankets

Don’t know when, but it will be sooner rather than later.

Wearing a face shield during 60 minutes of football will also be like said rain jackets!

The biggest Cincy Bungle in this whole pandemic has been and continues to be the shitting of the bed in the testing department. Testing should have been priority #1 above any and all efforts. The PSU study that was just released, if confirmed, says the spread was underestimated severely and the apreas started way earlier too.

DJT would be getting some hospitals and ships named after him had he just focused on testing instead of pump and dump schemes.

They’d all have the ability to make some surgical decisions on spread, care and quarantine right now if testing had had some WWII or man on the moon efforts thrown at it....hell even some TSA creation energy.

[Kodiak]

The PSU study that was just released, if confirmed, says the spread was underestimated severely and the apreas started way earlier too.

That's been obvious for a long time. The spread was out-of-control before anyone even realized there was a problem. Pretty much the only countries that escaped a major outbreak were the Asian countries with the dumb luck of being locked down before the more contagious European strain made it in. I seriously doubt the original Wuhan strain is even still prevalent in the US, and probably hasn't been for some time.

The PSU study estimated there were over 8M undiagnosed cases in March. No one at that time had anywhere near that amount of testing capacity. We still don't have that kind of capacity - you would have needed 80M tests in March, maybe more, to catch 8M cases. With those kinds of numbers I don't know how testing and contact tracing would have made much of a dent, if you even had the capability.

The only real defense against this was if you closed your borders in time. Hawaii never got it bad, and had the thing almost eradicated. But still opened back up and it's spiked to almost 30 cases per day - after nearly a week of 0 new cases (let that sink in for a minute). Politico should have waited a few more days before running a story praising Hawaii's testing and contact tracing as some sort of silver bullet.

[blu]

Have heard multiple sports "experts" suggesting that smart teams will encourage their players to get infected now, so that they won't have to miss time during the season.

Except that the immunity may not last more than a few month at the most. It's a coronavirus & no one knows how long the post covid-19 immunity is good. Maybe these experts should get infected & see what the residual lung damage is?

[Kodiak]

Here's a good and interesting article about a recent study from Northwestern that just came out.
https://www.forbes.com/sites/williamhas ... 324736c050


As I suspected, the Wuhan strain is practically non-existent in the US - estimated at 1% at the end of May. It was classified as having "low" viral load compared to the predominant strain that came from Europe to NY and spread throughout the US. That strain was classified as having "high" viral load, meaning it is much more contagious - almost TEN TIMES more contagious than the Wuhan strain - and explains why most of the world has struggled to contain the predominant European strain.

The authors also noted no difference in symptoms or severity of the strains. I just mention that because it's come up here before.

[Kodiak]

Except that the immunity may not last more than a few month at the most. It's a coronavirus & no one knows how long the post covid-19 immunity is good. Maybe these experts should get infected & see what the residual lung damage is?

I saw those references. The headlines might have been a little deceptive:
1) Immunity "disappearing" was based off a tiny Chinese study of like 39 people who had recovered from the virus. I believe the observation was 10% - or about FOUR people - had antigens below the estimated "effective" threshold.

2) A much larger Chinese study found that loads below the "effective" level might actually still provide significant partial, if not full, immunity. Some of these stories referenced that second Chinese study, but you can guess what the lede was.

3) The reason I referenced that both studies were Chinese is because they were studying people who had the Wuhan variant. The much more contagious European strain is giving people much higher viral loads. I would guess that provides much better immunity.

4) It's true that we don't know how long immunity lasts. It's probably longer than a few months, but maybe not longer than 6-12 months. A recent European study looking at 4 variants of the common cold (also a coronavirus) estimated 6-12 months of immunity from coronavirus. Immunity to other novel coronaviruses such as SARS and MERS is estimated at 1-8 years.


Some of you guys (not necessarily you) REALLY need to expand your news sources beyond the contagion porn pushed by certain places. Can't rely on headlines - a lot of times critical info is buried more than halfway down the story. Just as an example, BGR - which has been better than most at accurate coverage - mentioned South Korea proved people have been re-infected. Following the link to their own story shows that, actually, South Korea determined their test was picking up dead fragments of the disease and in fact these people were immune and not contagious.

[jebrick]

The PSU study that was just released, if confirmed, says the spread was underestimated severely and the apreas started way earlier too.

That's been obvious for a long time. The spread was out-of-control before anyone even realized there was a problem. Pretty much the only countries that escaped a major outbreak were the Asian countries with the dumb luck of being locked down before the more contagious European strain made it in. I seriously doubt the original Wuhan strain is even still prevalent in the US, and probably hasn't been for some time.

There was no dumb luck with some Asian countries. They got hammered during SARS and had plans in place for infectious diseases and they followed them.

[bradshaw2ben]

Have heard multiple sports "experts" suggesting that smart teams will encourage their players to get infected now, so that they won't have to miss time during the season.

Except that the immunity may not last more than a few month at the most. It's a coronavirus & no one knows how long the post covid-19 immunity is good. Maybe these experts should get infected & see what the residual lung damage is?

I concur

[Havoc]

Today they sent everyone home from my office in the middle of the day due to someone from my office getting tested for the coronavirus. Irving, TX

Working from home again at least thru tomorrow.

[LakecrestSteeler]

Today they sent everyone home from my office in the middle of the day due to someone from my office getting tested for the coronavirus. Irving, TX

Working from home again at least thru tomorrow.

Shouldn’t they at least wait for the results?

Must be really against testing in Texas!

[Havoc]

Today they sent everyone home from my office in the middle of the day due to someone from my office getting tested for the coronavirus. Irving, TX

Working from home again at least thru tomorrow.

Shouldn’t they at least wait for the results?

Must be really against testing in Texas!

I should have clarified, they said work from home tomorrow and they will let us know beyond that. I doubt they will ask anyone if they feel comfortable coming back in before the test results.

I will add, my company has done a pretty good job with this at least at my office. Not many people have been allowed back in and they have kept people spread apart - very social distanced. That office was mostly empty. People did a pretty good job wearing masks at the very least when in proximity to others even though wearing masks wasn't required, people did it on their own.

[Thrillsseeker]

Saw an article about the NFL agreeing to cover the first 6-8 rows of seating.



Of course I have tickets for my som and I for the Browns game in row 1.

[Jobu]

Saw an article about the NFL agreeing to cover the first 6-8 rows of seating.

I don’t get the logic.

[955876]

Saw an article about the NFL agreeing to cover the first 6-8 rows of seating.

I don’t get the logic.

Maybe to create some distance between the players & sideline staff from screaming fans spittle particles?

[955876]

I will add, my company has done a pretty good job with this at least at my office. Not many people have been allowed back in and they have kept people spread apart

My firm hasn’t opened the office back up yet. Only a skeleton crew of like 2 are there to open mail, process checks, etc.

Rest of us working remotely from home. At first I didn’t want to as I could have done my job behind closed doors in my office.

Now I don’t wanna go back. And might not even when they open back up. Will go some days but see myself working from home a lot more in the future. Especially the days I don’t have any face to face client meetings.

While the stress level of my job is still the same, doing that job from home in a tshirt and pair of swim trunks puts you in a much different frame of mind than doing so in an office wearing a suit.

And when something pisses you off it’s real easy to log-off for a bit and take a dip in the pool, give the dog a walk, etc etc.

I find myself much more relaxed come days end than before.

[Donnie Brasco]

I will add, my company has done a pretty good job with this at least at my office. Not many people have been allowed back in and they have kept people spread apart

My firm hasn’t opened the office back up yet. Only a skeleton crew of like 2 are there to open mail, process checks, etc.

Rest of us working remotely from home. At first I didn’t want to as I could have done my job behind closed doors in my office.

Now I don’t wanna go back. And might not even when they open back up. Will go some days but see myself working from home a lot more in the future. Especially the days I don’t have any face to face client meetings.

While the stress level of my job is still the same, doing that job from home in a tshirt and pair of swim trunks puts you in a much different frame of mind than doing so in an office wearing a suit.

And when something pisses you off it’s real easy to log-off for a bit and take a dip in the pool, give the dog a walk, etc etc.

I find myself much more relaxed come days end than before.

I'm finding I'm the opposite. Honestly with my ADD I don't have the self discipline to effectively work from home. So I find myself dicking around at home and getting sucked into projects there.

Obviously I'm answering emails and doing work, but I don't think the quality of my work is as good vs when I'm in the office and have to put on my game face, plus it's nice to see coworkers from a social standpoint.

So I'm happy going to the office. I might be singing a different tune if my commute wasn't 3 minutes long and instead I had to sit in traffic for hours

[Thrillsseeker]

Saw an article about the NFL agreeing to cover the first 6-8 rows of seating.

I don’t get the logic.

https://bleacherreport.com/articles/289 ... distancing


The pics posted are backwards. The first pic is the 3rd paragraph. Social distancing and a way for owners to recoup $$

[Jobu]

Saw an article about the NFL agreeing to cover the first 6-8 rows of seating.

I don’t get the logic.

https://bleacherreport.com/articles/289 ... distancing


The pics posted are backwards. The first pic is the 3rd paragraph. Social distancing and a way for owners to recoup $$

Aaah...OK. I get it now.

[Kodiak]

Someone mentioned the strategy of intentionally getting your players sick.

So any thoughts on Clemson? I don't think you could cover up that plan, but about 1/3 of their team has tested positive. Which is interesting....

[jebrick]

Someone mentioned the strategy of intentionally getting your players sick.

So any thoughts on Clemson? I don't think you could cover up that plan, but about 1/3 of their team has tested positive. Which is interesting....

It is dangerously stupid for the athletes. They roll the dice on having decreased lung function and other possible issues. Also, if all the other ACC teams do not do it, how will they have a season?