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Cam Newton a Patriot

Post by Ice » Mon Jun 29, 2020 12:12 am

One year deal. Discuss.


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Post by Orangesteel » Mon Jun 29, 2020 12:53 am

If he’s healthy, he’s good enough for them to be good. Pats defense is still sick. His foot injury is a bad one though. It makes it so he couldn’t really step into his throws; he was constantly having to throw flat footed which kills his accuracy and timing.

I never thought there was any really faith in Stidham so this actually makes a lot of sense.
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Post by El Kabong » Mon Jun 29, 2020 1:10 am

Meh.
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Post by shellwagnerblount » Mon Jun 29, 2020 4:49 am

Ice wrote:
Mon Jun 29, 2020 12:12 am
One year deal. Discuss.
Just a shot in the dark, I think. I don't see him being any more accurate with his injuries piling up than he was when he was healthy. He's an exciting guy to watch when he's "on"..running the ball etc. I just think Bill is biding his time for a big move at the QB position next year. Or maybe he's trying to cover over being fined/disciplined for another videotaping episode? Good be...lol

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Post by Steelafan77 » Mon Jun 29, 2020 11:07 am

@AdamSchefter
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NFL has handed down these penalties to the Patriots for their television crew filming the Bengals-Browns game in December, sources tell
@MikeReiss
:

🏈$1.1 million in club fines.
🏈Loss of 2021 third-round pick.
🏈Patriots’ TV crews not allowed to shoot games during 2020 season.

https://twitter.com/AdamSchefter/status ... 2411260930
two things... first, the hype for the current QB [Stidham] was all hype. Which I'm sure comes as no surprise. Second, how many times does it take to be caught cheating before you're team is stripped of everything and the owner forced to sell off what's left?

To all those [cheat] fans that were in denial and defended that team blindly, this should be the final confirmation you root for cheaters...

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Post by SteelPro » Mon Jun 29, 2020 11:34 am

Steelafan77 wrote:
Mon Jun 29, 2020 11:07 am
@AdamSchefter
·
10h
NFL has handed down these penalties to the Patriots for their television crew filming the Bengals-Browns game in December, sources tell
@MikeReiss
:

🏈$1.1 million in club fines.
🏈Loss of 2021 third-round pick.
🏈Patriots’ TV crews not allowed to shoot games during 2020 season.

https://twitter.com/AdamSchefter/status ... 2411260930
two things... first, the hype for the current QB [Stidham] was all hype. Which I'm sure comes as no surprise. Second, how many times does it take to be caught cheating before you're team is stripped of everything and the owner forced to sell off what's left?

To all those [cheat] fans that were in denial and defended that team blindly, this should be the final confirmation you root for cheaters...

The Patriots interpretation of these penalties is that although they can’t film games they are all clear to once again film other team’s practices
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Post by Donnie Brasco » Mon Jun 29, 2020 11:59 am

Steelafan77 wrote:
Mon Jun 29, 2020 11:07 am
@AdamSchefter
·
10h
NFL has handed down these penalties to the Patriots for their television crew filming the Bengals-Browns game in December, sources tell
@MikeReiss
:

🏈$1.1 million in club fines.
🏈Loss of 2021 third-round pick.
🏈Patriots’ TV crews not allowed to shoot games during 2020 season.

https://twitter.com/AdamSchefter/status ... 2411260930
two things... first, the hype for the current QB [Stidham] was all hype. Which I'm sure comes as no surprise. Second, how many times does it take to be caught cheating before you're team is stripped of everything and the owner forced to sell off what's left?

To all those [cheat] fans that were in denial and defended that team blindly, this should be the final confirmation you root for cheaters...
Until these punishments become severe enough, nothing is going to deter them from doing it repeatedly.

Would you sacrifice a 3rd round pick for an "enigma machine"? I sure as fuck would

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Post by Thrillsseeker » Mon Jun 29, 2020 1:25 pm

I agree Donnie.

Another slap on the wrist will not deter those cheating fucks.

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Post by Jobu » Mon Jun 29, 2020 1:51 pm

Thrillsseeker wrote:
Mon Jun 29, 2020 1:25 pm
I agree Donnie.

Another slap on the wrist will not deter those cheating fucks.
Yep...I’m picturing Belichick, Krafty, and Ernie sitting poolside, puffing on expensive cigars and laughing about Rog thinking he really “got em” this time...

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Post by Kodiak » Mon Jun 29, 2020 6:51 pm

A $1.1M fine? They rake in, what, $10M for a single home playoff game?

Kraft is a multi-billionaire. That fine is an insult to the fans.
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Post by COR-TEN » Mon Jun 29, 2020 7:20 pm

Kodiak wrote:
Mon Jun 29, 2020 6:51 pm
A $1.1M fine? They rake in, what, $10M for a single home playoff game?

Kraft is a multi-billionaire. That fine is an insult to the fans.
Hey, they lost a 2021 third rounder.

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Post by Ice » Mon Jun 29, 2020 7:52 pm

Which they'll recoup through trade, comp pick or both in short order after the season.
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Post by Stosh-67 » Mon Jun 29, 2020 10:23 pm

Wait till they realize the best part of Cams game is what he is wearing walking in to the clubhouse and what he wears at post game press conferences.

Hope he looks great when he has miserable press conferences explaining why they lost.
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Post by Thrillsseeker » Mon Jun 29, 2020 11:36 pm

Kodiak wrote:
Mon Jun 29, 2020 6:51 pm
A $1.1M fine? They rake in, what, $10M for a single home playoff game?

Kraft is a multi-billionaire. That fine is an insult to the fans.
It really fucking is.

Ps. It also shows Roger is a dumbfuck. Der I had to show the fans i did something der.

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Post by VeritasSteel » Tue Jun 30, 2020 3:39 pm

Kodiak wrote:
Mon Jun 29, 2020 6:51 pm
A $1.1M fine? They rake in, what, $10M for a single home playoff game?

Kraft is a multi-billionaire. That fine is an insult to the fans.
I agree. You could fine them 50 million and it wouldn't do anything. Kraft spent more than a million in jet fuel and legal fees getting into and out of trouble on that "massage" he got in Miami.

I say take away dollars from the salary cap in 4 million increments as well as the draft pick. 4 million in dead money is a bigger deal because it offsets any competitive advantage they would get from filming by losing players. Could even kick the other teams back 130k to their caps just so the players don't lose that money.

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Post by bradshaw2ben » Tue Jun 30, 2020 4:32 pm

Can someone more familiar with betting than I explain to me how I can bet that the Steelers' 1st round draft slot next year will be later than the Patriots' slot? The Pats and Steelers have the same Super Bowl odds now, and I'd bet substantially that the Steelers go farther in the playoffs and/or have a better regular-season record. If it's better than even money, I'd make that bet.
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Post by Quixotic » Tue Jun 30, 2020 4:35 pm

I was talking about this with a friend who is a Cheats fan. My thought to her…

For better or for worse, Brady was very coachable and a very accurate passer. But his defining characteristic is is WILL TO WIN.

Cam is none of those things. He “does what he does,” which is to say you have to build your offense around him, because he is not coachable, so he won’t slide into yours.

Cam’s accuracy has never been that great. And now, with the foot issue, it’s even worse.

Finally, the performance in the Superbowl, when he ducked out of the way of a fumble, with the game within two posessions. Apparently his instinct was to save himself at the expense of the team—in the biggest game in his career.

This will not work well for the cheats. A cry-baby on the sideline, who doesn’t bother to do the what it takes to keep the team in the game, and who doesn’t fit into the scheme will not pan out. I hope they start him. He screws up. Bill’s head explodes. And as Brady FAILS in his new home, the cheats IMPLODE. And they’re exposed as the cheating frauds they are.

But that’s just me. Nothin’ but love.

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Post by Professor Half Wit » Tue Jun 30, 2020 5:14 pm

Quixotic wrote:
Tue Jun 30, 2020 4:35 pm
This will not work well for the cheats. A cry-baby on the sideline, who doesn’t bother to do the what it takes to keep the team in the game, and who doesn’t fit into the scheme will not pan out. I hope they start him. He screws up. Bill’s head explodes. And as Brady FAILS in his new home, the cheats IMPLODE. And they’re exposed as the cheating frauds they are.

But that’s just me. Nothin’ but love.
Bill and Brady failing when separated does entail that their success was due to cheating. I’m not defending the Pats.
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Post by Ice » Tue Jun 30, 2020 5:24 pm

bradshaw2ben wrote:
Tue Jun 30, 2020 4:32 pm
Can someone more familiar with betting than I explain to me how I can bet that the Steelers' 1st round draft slot next year will be later than the Patriots' slot? The Pats and Steelers have the same Super Bowl odds now, and I'd bet substantially that the Steelers go farther in the playoffs and/or have a better regular-season record. If it's better than even money, I'd make that bet.
The folks in Vegas aren't taking the Cam signing anywhere near as seriously as fans and sports media are. They have adjusted New England's projected win total up by a whopping .5 games since before the signing. Probably pretty accurate.
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Post by Jobu » Tue Jun 30, 2020 5:34 pm

Can’t wait for the dueling post game presser pouting matches... :lol:

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Post by Charles Demarr » Tue Jun 30, 2020 6:44 pm

Patriot's ceiling is 8-8 this year. Cam is garbage and has been for a while now. He may not even beat out Stidham. I feel like this move was made more to trade Cam to a QB desperate team in season and recoup the 3rd they lost.
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Post by Drummer Boy » Tue Jun 30, 2020 8:54 pm

Professor Half Wit wrote:
Tue Jun 30, 2020 5:14 pm
Bill and Brady failing when separated does entail that their success was due to cheating. I’m not defending the Pats.
Don't see how. Did you mean "does not entail"?

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Post by Professor Half Wit » Wed Jul 01, 2020 11:57 am

Drummer Boy wrote:
Tue Jun 30, 2020 8:54 pm
Professor Half Wit wrote:
Tue Jun 30, 2020 5:14 pm
Bill and Brady failing when separated does entail that their success was due to cheating. I’m not defending the Pats.
Don't see how. Did you mean "does not entail"?
Ugh, yes: Does not.
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Post by Quixotic » Wed Jul 01, 2020 5:49 pm

Professor Half Wit wrote:
Tue Jun 30, 2020 5:14 pm
Quixotic wrote:
Tue Jun 30, 2020 4:35 pm
This will not work well for the cheats. A cry-baby on the sideline, who doesn’t bother to do the what it takes to keep the team in the game, and who doesn’t fit into the scheme will not pan out. I hope they start him. He screws up. Bill’s head explodes. And as Brady FAILS in his new home, the cheats IMPLODE. And they’re exposed as the cheating frauds they are.

But that’s just me. Nothin’ but love.
Bill and Brady failing when separated does entail that their success was due to cheating. I’m not defending the Pats.
Thanks perfessor. Actually, using “and” more in the copulative sense than in the cumulative sense. As in, “I am excited about A. And I am excited about B. And I am excited about C.” As opposed to, “I am excited about A and B, which will cause C.”

Also, I like saying “copulative” and “cumulative.” They sound utterly unlike what they actually mean. Also like saying “utterly” for the same reason.

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Post by Quixotic » Wed Jul 01, 2020 5:50 pm

Professor Half Wit wrote:
Wed Jul 01, 2020 11:57 am
Drummer Boy wrote:
Tue Jun 30, 2020 8:54 pm
Professor Half Wit wrote:
Tue Jun 30, 2020 5:14 pm
Bill and Brady failing when separated does entail that their success was due to cheating. I’m not defending the Pats.
Don't see how. Did you mean "does not entail"?
Ugh, yes: Does not.
Yeah. Got that.

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Post by Professor Half Wit » Wed Jul 01, 2020 6:03 pm

Quixotic wrote:
Wed Jul 01, 2020 5:49 pm
Professor Half Wit wrote:
Tue Jun 30, 2020 5:14 pm
Quixotic wrote:
Tue Jun 30, 2020 4:35 pm
This will not work well for the cheats. A cry-baby on the sideline, who doesn’t bother to do the what it takes to keep the team in the game, and who doesn’t fit into the scheme will not pan out. I hope they start him. He screws up. Bill’s head explodes. And as Brady FAILS in his new home, the cheats IMPLODE. And they’re exposed as the cheating frauds they are.

But that’s just me. Nothin’ but love.
Bill and Brady failing when separated does entail that their success was due to cheating. I’m not defending the Pats.
Thanks perfessor. Actually, using “and” more in the copulative sense than in the cumulative sense. As in, “I am excited about A. And I am excited about B. And I am excited about C.” As opposed to, “I am excited about A and B, which will cause C.”

Also, I like saying “copulative” and “cumulative.” They sound utterly unlike what they actually mean. Also like saying “utterly” for the same reason.
Don’t forget the “epexegetical copulative”—surely my favorite use of ‘and’.
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Post by Drummer Boy » Wed Jul 01, 2020 6:06 pm

Quixotic wrote:
Wed Jul 01, 2020 5:49 pm
Also, I like saying “copulative” and “cumulative.” They sound utterly unlike what they actually mean. ...
"Copulative" especially.

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Post by Kodiak » Wed Jul 01, 2020 6:36 pm

Charles Demarr wrote:
Tue Jun 30, 2020 6:44 pm
Patriot's ceiling is 8-8 this year.
If that's true, they'll just dial up the cheating machine a few more notches and still manage at least 11-5.

Looking forward to the first time Brady comes to the sidelines in TB and says "the radio in my helmet is cutting off with like 15 seconds left on the play clock".
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Post by Ice » Wed Jul 01, 2020 7:37 pm

Kodiak wrote:
Wed Jul 01, 2020 6:36 pm
Charles Demarr wrote:
Tue Jun 30, 2020 6:44 pm
Patriot's ceiling is 8-8 this year.
If that's true, they'll just dial up the cheating machine a few more notches and still manage at least 11-5.

Looking forward to the first time Brady comes to the sidelines in TB and says "the radio in my helmet is cutting off with like 15 seconds left on the play clock".
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Post by Thrillsseeker » Wed Jul 01, 2020 9:25 pm

Ice wrote:
Wed Jul 01, 2020 7:37 pm
Kodiak wrote:
Wed Jul 01, 2020 6:36 pm
Charles Demarr wrote:
Tue Jun 30, 2020 6:44 pm
Patriot's ceiling is 8-8 this year.
If that's true, they'll just dial up the cheating machine a few more notches and still manage at least 11-5.

Looking forward to the first time Brady comes to the sidelines in TB and says "the radio in my helmet is cutting off with like 15 seconds left on the play clock".
Funniest Tampa Tom post yet. Kodiak wins the internet this week.
I second this!!!! :lol:

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