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How long before AB declares his candidacy for President? He already has his campaign slogan:Professor Half Wit wrote: ↑Thu Jul 23, 2020 12:52 pmAB has Kanye West level bipolar mental health problems.
Sounds like he's also got a bipolar accountant.Professor Half Wit wrote: ↑Thu Jul 23, 2020 12:52 pmAB has Kanye West level bipolar mental health problems.
Seemed pretty clear he was struggling with bipolar issues back in college. Frequency and severity increase with age, also. I'm not a psychologist, but the pattern of behavior fits almost perfectly.
Pretty sure he is off everyone's books currently. The only money he made last year was signing bonus money and a week 1 game check.Steel Bingo wrote: ↑Sun Jul 26, 2020 1:48 pmIf he did retire, would that free up New England / Las Vegas' salary cap in some way by taking his dead money off their books?
Adam Schefter
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Antonio Brown was notified today by NFL Special Counsel for Conduct Todd Jones that he has been suspended without pay for the first eight regular-season games of the 2020 season for multiple violations of the NFL's Personal Conduct Policy.
Basically, he's suspended for the first half of 2020 and any further fuck ups mean he's likely done for an entire season.Adam Schefter
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NFL also warned Antonio Brown that any future violation of the Personal Conduct Policy will likely result in more significant discipline.
I would think he'd win an appeal. He was de facto suspended 15 games last year, and an additional 8 this year is simply unprecedented. Only substance abusers have been suspended that long or longer.
According to Harrison the guy you want to take to the NFL offices is Colbert. Said he was the man when they were fining Harrison for "illegal" hits.Ice wrote: ↑Fri Jul 31, 2020 9:16 pmWould he have to be in a room with Goodell for the appeal and, you know, speak? That's a recipe for a lifelong ban. Not saying I wouldn't love a transcript. The only funnier possibility of a former Steeler having a conversation with The Clown would be James Harrison.
I think the one accusation is suspect as hell, which might also be why no police report was filed. The other accusation, along with the threat/intimidation, is probably a much bigger problem for him with the NFL.Thrillsseeker wrote: ↑Fri Jul 31, 2020 10:03 pmCan also be suspended linger after rape investigation is done separate from todays conduct detrimental.
Ice wrote: ↑Sat Aug 01, 2020 10:56 amThe owners control Goodell like a dancing marionette. Brown pissed off two of the more respected owners in the league in Kraft and Rooney, including some personal insults on a very public platform about Kraft's "off the field" conduct. Have you known rich oligarchs to be the live and let live type? If he bothers to fight this, and it gets reduced, they'll just blackball him again, until he gets frustrated and does something else. It's a 32 man billionaire good old boys club, and at the end of the day, they're going to protect their own.
Yup. And that's not even talking about the raiders and gruden - who is also respected throughout the league. AB shit on him and raiders ownership.Ice wrote: ↑Sat Aug 01, 2020 10:56 amThe owners control Goodell like a dancing marionette. Brown pissed off two of the more respected owners in the league in Kraft and Rooney, including some personal insults on a very public platform about Kraft's "off the field" conduct. Have you known rich oligarchs to be the live and let live type? If he bothers to fight this, and it gets reduced, they'll just blackball him again, until he gets frustrated and does something else. It's a 32 man billionaire good old boys club, and at the end of the day, they're going to protect their own.
Ehhh... not so sure about that. Davis’ old man ruffled plenty of feathers over the years. I’m sure there are plenty of the old schoolers that still hold a grudge on the organization. And Gruden is just a narcissistic douche bag. (But that’s just my opinion.COR-TEN wrote: ↑Sat Aug 01, 2020 5:03 pmYup. And that's not even talking about the raiders and gruden - who is also respected throughout the league. AB shit on him and raiders ownership.Ice wrote: ↑Sat Aug 01, 2020 10:56 amThe owners control Goodell like a dancing marionette. Brown pissed off two of the more respected owners in the league in Kraft and Rooney, including some personal insults on a very public platform about Kraft's "off the field" conduct. Have you known rich oligarchs to be the live and let live type? If he bothers to fight this, and it gets reduced, they'll just blackball him again, until he gets frustrated and does something else. It's a 32 man billionaire good old boys club, and at the end of the day, they're going to protect their own.
)Good point. But there IS a CBA, and what you're referring to is also known as collusion. I don't know, it just seems a little excessive.Ice wrote: ↑Sat Aug 01, 2020 10:56 amThe owners control Goodell like a dancing marionette. Brown pissed off two of the more respected owners in the league in Kraft and Rooney, including some personal insults on a very public platform about Kraft's "off the field" conduct. Have you known rich oligarchs to be the live and let live type? If he bothers to fight this, and it gets reduced, they'll just blackball him again, until he gets frustrated and does something else. It's a 32 man billionaire good old boys club, and at the end of the day, they're going to protect their own.
Your opinion on Gruden may be accurate but he sold the league pretty hard for those same owners for a long time on TV and helped make them coin yearly since he has been involved with the NFL.Jobu wrote: ↑Sat Aug 01, 2020 5:33 pmEhhh... not so sure about that. Davis’ old man ruffled plenty of feathers over the years. I’m sure there are plenty of the old schoolers that still hold a grudge on the organization. And Gruden is just a narcissistic douche bag. (But that’s just my opinion.COR-TEN wrote: ↑Sat Aug 01, 2020 5:03 pmYup. And that's not even talking about the raiders and gruden - who is also respected throughout the league. AB shit on him and raiders ownership.Ice wrote: ↑Sat Aug 01, 2020 10:56 amThe owners control Goodell like a dancing marionette. Brown pissed off two of the more respected owners in the league in Kraft and Rooney, including some personal insults on a very public platform about Kraft's "off the field" conduct. Have you known rich oligarchs to be the live and let live type? If he bothers to fight this, and it gets reduced, they'll just blackball him again, until he gets frustrated and does something else. It's a 32 man billionaire good old boys club, and at the end of the day, they're going to protect their own.
It's only collusion if you can prove it, and they have the "AB is a detriment to the team" defense to hide behind in perpetuity.Kodiak wrote: ↑Sat Aug 01, 2020 5:52 pmGood point. But there IS a CBA, and what you're referring to is also known as collusion. I don't know, it just seems a little excessive.Ice wrote: ↑Sat Aug 01, 2020 10:56 amThe owners control Goodell like a dancing marionette. Brown pissed off two of the more respected owners in the league in Kraft and Rooney, including some personal insults on a very public platform about Kraft's "off the field" conduct. Have you known rich oligarchs to be the live and let live type? If he bothers to fight this, and it gets reduced, they'll just blackball him again, until he gets frustrated and does something else. It's a 32 man billionaire good old boys club, and at the end of the day, they're going to protect their own.
And, yes, on top of that he is subject to more with the ongoing sexual assault investigations. So safe bet he's in line for another 4-6 games. But I bet there will be a contender interested in adding him for a playoff run. Of course, NO thought about that last year and AB still managed to piss them off.
Agreed. Independent people with common goals doesn't make for collusion or a conspiracy. It can, but is hard to prove.Ice wrote: ↑Sun Aug 02, 2020 4:00 pmIt's only collusion if you can prove it, and they have the "AB is a detriment to the team" defense to hide behind in perpetuity.Kodiak wrote: ↑Sat Aug 01, 2020 5:52 pmGood point. But there IS a CBA, and what you're referring to is also known as collusion. I don't know, it just seems a little excessive.Ice wrote: ↑Sat Aug 01, 2020 10:56 amThe owners control Goodell like a dancing marionette. Brown pissed off two of the more respected owners in the league in Kraft and Rooney, including some personal insults on a very public platform about Kraft's "off the field" conduct. Have you known rich oligarchs to be the live and let live type? If he bothers to fight this, and it gets reduced, they'll just blackball him again, until he gets frustrated and does something else. It's a 32 man billionaire good old boys club, and at the end of the day, they're going to protect their own.
And, yes, on top of that he is subject to more with the ongoing sexual assault investigations. So safe bet he's in line for another 4-6 games. But I bet there will be a contender interested in adding him for a playoff run. Of course, NO thought about that last year and AB still managed to piss them off.
Doubt he changed his tune.Stallworth16 wrote: ↑Thu Aug 06, 2020 3:55 pmRyan Clark on First Take today saying that the Packers should sign AB and AB would be great for the Packers, and AB is still one of the best WRs on the planet. His co-host DFoxworth saying he’s too much of a character risk.
So I guess Ryan Clark has changed his tune on AB.
I'm sure Clark knows Brown is still an enormous asshole and scumbag, but if he can somehow fly straight in Green Bay, Brown might be the missing piece to get the Packers back to the Super Bowl.Stallworth16 wrote: ↑Thu Aug 06, 2020 3:55 pmRyan Clark on First Take today saying that the Packers should sign AB and AB would be great for the Packers, and AB is still one of the best WRs on the planet. His co-host DFoxworth saying he’s too much of a character risk.
So I guess Ryan Clark has changed his tune on AB.
at the idea of AB getting his act together.Foxworth said that he'd been burned by Brown. He admitted that he stuck up for Brown in spite of RC telling him not to do that. But after the Raiders and Pats, he began to see that the problem wasn't the Steelers, Ben, or Tomlin after all. So he was the only one on the panel selling this and calling out RC for even mentioning it.Stallworth16 wrote: ↑Thu Aug 06, 2020 4:59 pmDFoxworth also said that unless AB is going to play defense for Packers, he can’t get them over the hump.