If I told you before the game

[Jizz Mop]

that we would lose the turnover battle with a minus 3 and we’d still win, would you believe it?

We’ve discussed the end of half INT....no need to discuss further, but....I will. Didn’t matter in terms of giving them the ball but I still feel we needed to seek 3 there.

Second INT was brutal. Tipped ball at the line gives Tenn awesome field position.

And lastly....a pick when you’re looking to either throw the knockout punch or pick up another 3 could have resulted in OT if Gostowski makes that FG.

Still blown away we didn’t get a TO. Watt almost had one and VW’s blast on Tannehill was a fumble recovered by Tenn.

[Obviously]

that we would lose the turnover battle with a minus 3 and we’d still win, would you believe it?

We’ve discussed the end of half INT....no need to discuss further, but....I will. Didn’t matter in terms of giving them the ball but I still feel we needed to seek 3 there.

Second INT was brutal. Tipped ball at the line gives Tenn awesome field position.

And lastly....a pick when you’re looking to either throw the knockout punch or pick up another 3 could have resulted in OT if Gostowski makes that FG.

Still blown away we didn’t get a TO. Watt almost had one and VW’s blast on Tannehill was a fumble recovered by Tenn.

Agree with everything you said. People trying to downplay the INT's in the game thread, bit I'd argue the first one was the turning point of momentum. The Steelers score there, even three points before the half and Tennessee is down for the count. The INT gave them hope and almost the win. But hey I think we all expect the agita during the Tomlin era, right?

[Charles Demarr]

Agree on all points.

2 of those INTs were really bad. Could have easily been a 9 point lead and their last drive wouldn't have meant shit.

Overall Ben was not very good yesterday. Very questionable decision making.

[jeemie]

Agree on all points.

2 of those INTs were really bad. Could have easily been a 9 point lead and their last drive wouldn't have meant shit.

Overall Ben was not very good yesterday. Very questionable decision making.

Here’s hoping he’s gotten it out of his system because next week’s game is the one, guys.

Steelers can make a huge statement that 2020 is going to be a special year with a win against the Ravens.

[SteelPro]

that we would lose the turnover battle with a minus 3 and we’d still win, would you believe it?

We’ve discussed the end of half INT....no need to discuss further, but....I will. Didn’t matter in terms of giving them the ball but I still feel we needed to seek 3 there.

Second INT was brutal. Tipped ball at the line gives Tenn awesome field position.

And lastly....a pick when you’re looking to either throw the knockout punch or pick up another 3 could have resulted in OT if Gostowski makes that FG.

Still blown away we didn’t get a TO. Watt almost had one and VW’s blast on Tannehill was a fumble recovered by Tenn.

Agree with everything you said. People trying to downplay the INT's in the game thread, bit I'd argue the first one was the turning point of momentum. The Steelers score there, even three points before the half and Tennessee is down for the count. The INT gave them hope and almost the win. But hey I think we all expect the agita during the Tomlin era, right?

Except it really didn't. Defense opened 2nd half with a 3 and out and then the Offense followed up with a FG drive. The end of the 1st half pick wasn't really a momentum swing. Two plays put Tennessee back in the game. Minkah's fuck up that gave the Titans a long quick score to cut the lead to 27-14. And then the tipped ball INT that gave the Titans the ball in excellent field position late in Q3. For all the bitching about turtling that pick happened on a 4 play drive that was PASS-PASS-PASS-PASS while the Steelers were holding 13 point lead.

[Jizz Mop]

If they got the 3 before halftime, they are up 30-24 on last drive and only need 3 to go up two scores.

Why is this so hard to comprehend?

And if they’re up 6, Ben isn’t making that throw into the EZ but instead making a safer throw to ensure the FG.

[SteelPro]

If they got the 3 before halftime, they are up 30-24 on last drive and only need 3 to go up two scores.

Why is this so hard to comprehend?

And if they’re up 6, Ben isn’t making that throw into the EZ but instead making a safer throw to ensure the FG.

We could play the if game all day long...

If Minkah plays it safe and just tries for a regular old tackle to keep the receiver contained and doesn't give up that huge quick strike TD no one is complaining about the end of the half. That was a far worse gamble than what Ben did.

[Ice]

If they got the 3 before halftime, they are up 30-24 on last drive and only need 3 to go up two scores.

Why is this so hard to comprehend?

And if they’re up 6, Ben isn’t making that throw into the EZ but instead making a safer throw to ensure the FG.

We could play the if game all day long...

If Minkah plays it safe and just tries for a regular old tackle to keep the receiver contained and doesn't give up that huge quick strike TD no one is complaining about the end of the half. That was a far worse gamble than what Ben did.

Tend to agree with Pro here. I didn't think the end of half thing was a huge deal, and like that they went for the shot. Wish it would have ended prettier, sure, but the FG wasn't guaranteed from the FP we had, either. Maybe a couple of quick outs are completed, maybe not. Maybe Boz makes the FG, maybe not. Not going to fault aggression with the lead.

Minkah going for the big lick and ignoring the fundamental play is a continuation of one of the more disturbing single-player trends on the team this year, and definitely bears watching going forward.

[K_C_]

If they got the 3 before halftime, they are up 30-24 on last drive and only need 3 to go up two scores.

Why is this so hard to comprehend?

And if they’re up 6, Ben isn’t making that throw into the EZ but instead making a safer throw to ensure the FG.

We could play the if game all day long...

If Minkah plays it safe and just tries for a regular old tackle to keep the receiver contained and doesn't give up that huge quick strike TD no one is complaining about the end of the half. That was a far worse gamble than what Ben did.

Tend to agree with Pro here. I didn't think the end of half thing was a huge deal, and like that they went for the shot. Wish it would have ended prettier, sure, but the FG wasn't guaranteed from the FP we had, either. Maybe a couple of quick outs are completed, maybe not. Maybe Boz makes the FG, maybe not. Not going to fault aggression with the lead.

The "aggression" was a heave into the end zone from midfield to one dude.



It was fucking dumb.

[Ice]

Not as dumb as Minkah's play, by a long shot.

[Professor Half Wit]

that we would lose the turnover battle with a minus 3 and we’d still win, would you believe it?

We’ve discussed the end of half INT....no need to discuss further, but....I will. Didn’t matter in terms of giving them the ball but I still feel we needed to seek 3 there.

Second INT was brutal. Tipped ball at the line gives Tenn awesome field position.

And lastly....a pick when you’re looking to either throw the knockout punch or pick up another 3 could have resulted in OT if Gostowski makes that FG.

Still blown away we didn’t get a TO. Watt almost had one and VW’s blast on Tannehill was a fumble recovered by Tenn.

Agree with everything you said. People trying to downplay the INT's in the game thread, bit I'd argue the first one was the turning point of momentum. The Steelers score there, even three points before the half and Tennessee is down for the count. The INT gave them hope and almost the win. But hey I think we all expect the agita during the Tomlin era, right?

But the good news is that Ben prior to TN was playing SUPER clean ball. HE's always good for one of these WTF games. The fact he had one against a very good contender and we still won? I'll take it!

[jeemie]

If they got the 3 before halftime, they are up 30-24 on last drive and only need 3 to go up two scores.

Why is this so hard to comprehend?

And if they’re up 6, Ben isn’t making that throw into the EZ but instead making a safer throw to ensure the FG.

We could play the if game all day long...

If Minkah plays it safe and just tries for a regular old tackle to keep the receiver contained and doesn't give up that huge quick strike TD no one is complaining about the end of the half. That was a far worse gamble than what Ben did.

But Minkah had made that mistake by the time Ben made his gamble.

Silly to try and absolve a gamble based on one that had occurred earlier in the game and whose results were baked in by the time Ben made his ill-advised throw.

Actually...if you’re talking about the one to end the half then yes...Minkah’s bad play later on was worse.

HOWEVER...using one bad play to justify another bad play still isn’t very sound critique.

Ben threw away points twice on low odds plays when better plays were available.

That’s almost never good.

[stillthere]

If they got the 3 before halftime, they are up 30-24 on last drive and only need 3 to go up two scores.

Why is this so hard to comprehend?

And if they’re up 6, Ben isn’t making that throw into the EZ but instead making a safer throw to ensure the FG.

We could play the if game all day long...

If Minkah plays it safe and just tries for a regular old tackle to keep the receiver contained and doesn't give up that huge quick strike TD no one is complaining about the end of the half. That was a far worse gamble than what Ben did.

I think it is less about the 'if game' and more about making smart fundamental football decisions. The fact that Tomlin said a false start changed the team's mindset from FG to hail mary is not sound thinking. Get a 15 yard chunk and kick the FG if the chunk play is incomplete then throw the bomb to the endzone.

[stillthere]

But the good news is that Ben prior to TN was playing SUPER clean ball. HE's always good for one of these WTF games. The fact he had one against a very good contender and we still won? I'll take it!

Hopefully that is one of his usual bad game or two during a season that we see. Usually we lose those clunkers so I agree that the W is all that matters in the long run.

I consider this game like the first game against Baltimore last year. The Steelers had all the momentum and were about to steal a victory from Baltimore and the Ravens could feel it just like we could feel it yesterday and we still got the win due to a lucky break. Sometimes the football gods have to give you a gift.

[bradshaw2ben]

that we would lose the turnover battle with a minus 3 and we’d still win, would you believe it?

We’ve discussed the end of half INT....no need to discuss further, but....I will. Didn’t matter in terms of giving them the ball but I still feel we needed to seek 3 there.

Second INT was brutal. Tipped ball at the line gives Tenn awesome field position.

And lastly....a pick when you’re looking to either throw the knockout punch or pick up another 3 could have resulted in OT if Gostowski makes that FG.

Still blown away we didn’t get a TO. Watt almost had one and VW’s blast on Tannehill was a fumble recovered by Tenn.

Agree with everything you said. People trying to downplay the INT's in the game thread, bit I'd argue the first one was the turning point of momentum. The Steelers score there, even three points before the half and Tennessee is down for the count. The INT gave them hope and almost the win. But hey I think we all expect the agita during the Tomlin era, right?

But the good news is that Ben prior to TN was playing SUPER clean ball. HE's always good for one of these WTF games. The fact he had one against a very good contender and we still won? I'll take it!

You guys don't deserve Ben if you think yesterday was a WTF game. Aside from one horrible decision on a throw to JuJu that should have been intercepted but wasn't I thought Ben played like a guy who wanted to win and had incredible accuracy on some tough throws. His receivers let him down a little or he has a fabulous day.

[SteelerDayTrader]

Agree with everything you said. People trying to downplay the INT's in the game thread, bit I'd argue the first one was the turning point of momentum. The Steelers score there, even three points before the half and Tennessee is down for the count. The INT gave them hope and almost the win. But hey I think we all expect the agita during the Tomlin era, right?

But the good news is that Ben prior to TN was playing SUPER clean ball. HE's always good for one of these WTF games. The fact he had one against a very good contender and we still won? I'll take it!

You guys don't deserve Ben if you think yesterday was a WTF game. Aside from one horrible decision on a throw to JuJu that should have been intercepted but wasn't I thought Ben played like a guy who wanted to win and had incredible accuracy on some tough throws. His receivers let him down a little or he has a fabulous day.

yep.....

[Havoc]

Agree on all points.

2 of those INTs were really bad. Could have easily been a 9 point lead and their last drive wouldn't have meant shit.

Overall Ben was not very good yesterday. Very questionable decision making.

Here’s hoping he’s gotten it out of his system because next week’s game is the one, guys.

Steelers can make a huge statement that 2020 is going to be a special year with a win against the Ravens.

If we beat the Ravens, we will have started to put together an impressive resume.

I see the Chiefs as a more difficult matchup, and maybe an NFC team, but still...

This week is a big one.

[Kodiak]

Anyone want to bet we lose that game if we had been up 30-24?

I initially thought Ben's pick to JuJu was bad, but I'll walk that back. It hit JuJu plain in the hands - he has to catch that. Not sure I can blame Ben for failing to foresee JuJu batting the ball in the air for a pick. That ball was nearly perfectly placed, perhaps just a foot low.

The tipped passes I think are both a Ben and OL problem. They'll clean that up. Some bad bounces on a couple of picks isn't making me panic.

[jeemie]

Anyone want to bet we lose that game if we had been up 30-24?

I initially thought Ben's pick to JuJu was bad, but I'll walk that back. It hit JuJu plain in the hands - he has to catch that. Not sure I can blame Ben for failing to foresee JuJu batting the ball in the air for a pick. That ball was nearly perfectly placed, perhaps just a foot low.

The tipped passes I think are both a Ben and OL problem. They'll clean that up. Some bad bounces on a couple of picks isn't making me panic.

I don’t think so.

Defense played well but for a couple of big plays.

[COR-TEN]

Agree with everything you said. People trying to downplay the INT's in the game thread, bit I'd argue the first one was the turning point of momentum. The Steelers score there, even three points before the half and Tennessee is down for the count. The INT gave them hope and almost the win. But hey I think we all expect the agita during the Tomlin era, right?

But the good news is that Ben prior to TN was playing SUPER clean ball. HE's always good for one of these WTF games. The fact he had one against a very good contender and we still won? I'll take it!

You guys don't deserve Ben if you think yesterday was a WTF game. Aside from one horrible decision on a throw to JuJu that should have been intercepted but wasn't I thought Ben played like a guy who wanted to win and had incredible accuracy on some tough throws. His receivers let him down a little or he has a fabulous day.

Yeah. I don't think he had a WTF game either. Two INT's were essentially bad luck.

[Jobu]

I agree

[Jobu]

But the good news is that Ben prior to TN was playing SUPER clean ball. HE's always good for one of these WTF games. The fact he had one against a very good contender and we still won? I'll take it!

You guys don't deserve Ben if you think yesterday was a WTF game. Aside from one horrible decision on a throw to JuJu that should have been intercepted but wasn't I thought Ben played like a guy who wanted to win and had incredible accuracy on some tough throws. His receivers let him down a little or he has a fabulous day.

Yeah. I don't think he had a WTF game either. Two INT's were essentially bad luck.

I agree, but for a 6’5” QB, he sure seems to get a lot of balls batted at the LOS.

[pickarooney]

Steelers dominated this game. Total fluky shit kept the Titans in it. Every single tipped or fumbled ball seemed to float or bounced directly into some Titan's cradled, covidy arms. Credit to them for tipping some balls, but damn all the luck was with them until the missed field goal.

[Stlcrtn1974]

You guys don't deserve Ben if you think yesterday was a WTF game. Aside from one horrible decision on a throw to JuJu that should have been intercepted but wasn't I thought Ben played like a guy who wanted to win and had incredible accuracy on some tough throws. His receivers let him down a little or he has a fabulous day.

Yeah. I don't think he had a WTF game either. Two INT's were essentially bad luck.

I agree, but for a 6’5” QB, he sure seems to get a lot of balls batted at the LOS.

Tends to happen when you are throwing the ball 5 to 10 yards down the field. I hate these short routes.

[Rod & Wire Mill]

Steelers dominated this game. Total fluky shit kept the Titans in it. Every single tipped or fumbled ball seemed to float or bounced directly into some Titan's cradled, covidy arms. Credit to them for tipping some balls, but damn all the luck was with them until the missed field goal.

During the game I said it looked like the balls were filled with helium.

[bradshaw2ben]

You guys don't deserve Ben if you think yesterday was a WTF game. Aside from one horrible decision on a throw to JuJu that should have been intercepted but wasn't I thought Ben played like a guy who wanted to win and had incredible accuracy on some tough throws. His receivers let him down a little or he has a fabulous day.

Yeah. I don't think he had a WTF game either. Two INT's were essentially bad luck.

I agree, but for a 6’5” QB, he sure seems to get a lot of balls batted at the LOS.

Jeffrey Simmons is 6'3" and has 34 1/2 inch arms. He can also get off the ground a little. Ben is throwing downward to a 5'8" target who is 5'10". It's not that hard to get int the way of the 6'5" thrower in that situation. Of more concern is that there are so many quick throws that the DL can get a pretty good feel for the timing of when to jump.

[El Kabong]

Anyone want to bet we lose that game if we had been up 30-24?

This crossed my mind. If the Tits were down by 6 at the end there, then they can't settle for a figgie that Gostkowski misses, and they have to keep firing at the end zone. Do they make it for the win?

[steelmann58]

I again don't think Ben Int's were all his fault either but it would be nice to see JuJUj come down with it. The short crossers are working these plays give the guys the ability to run after the catch. I think he hit on some nice deep passes hopefully he find his groove.

[Ice]

The Raisins have some double-move susceptible corners, and we've been putting short slants, out cuts and crossers on tape for three weeks. Maybe it factors into Sunday's game, maybe not. I think maybe it does.