The Give Up Drive Before The Half

[K_C_]

Steelers had the ball near field goal range with around 14 seconds left in the half.

After a false start and still with 14 seconds left in the half, Ben decided to try basically a Hail Mary and threw it to the end zone.

WHAT IN THE FLYING FUCK????

Get 10 yards (the 5 back from the false start and move closer for the field goal) and SPIKE THE FUCKING BALL.

Boswell is kicking great and you don't give the guy a goddamn shot?

I was driving when all this took place and I was doing everything in my power not to scream every cocksucking thing I possibly could, but I had the wife and 2 13 year old girls with me in the car, headed to see "Beetlejuice".

I told my wife those points might come back to haunt us and they fucking well almost did.

[GreenwoodsGoldShoes]

That was my exact reaction at the time.

[K_C_]

That was my exact reaction at the time.

It was fucking ARROGANT.

Like; "Fuck it, we have enough points".

Turns out....we did. Just fucking BARELY did, after an epic second half meltdown.

Boz can hit a 50 yarder right now. Didn't even try to get him a shot and I could not believe it.

[the-other-burg]

Its was ridiculous. There were so many options to get a FG shot in that situation. That 3 points we left on the field almost came back to bite us in the ass.

[Jizz Mop]

I watched Tomlin’s post game conference

Said they originally were thinking 3 but the false start on Ebron “changed their mindset” or some bullshit like that

Fuck that

At least try a play to get 5-10 yards and give Boz a chance

Horrible mgmt of the game

[K_C_]

I watched Tomlin’s post game conference

Said they originally were thinking 3 but the false start on Ebron “changed their mindset” or some bullshit like that

Fuck that

At least try a play to get 5-10 yards and give Boz a chance

Horrible mgmt of the game

Holy shit. I don't doubt Tomlin said that, but HOLY SHIT.

[stillthere]

Yeah when he said that in the post game presser I was kind of thinking "Dafuq did you just say?"

[fractalsteel]

Any of you guys that share screen shots could you find one of the Titans defense on this drive before the INT?

It looked to me like the Titans only had 2 guys on the LOS, standing up and maybe another one a few yards farther back. Maybe they were playing quarters deep and flooding the middle with zone which would make the sideline pass tough.
When they came out like that I was yelling for Ben to audible to get a back in the backfield and to run on that formation.

I'll check it out when All 22 is available.

A wasted opportunity for sure.

[Charles Demarr]

I have people on the Steelers Facebook page calling me an idiot for questioning Ben’s decision making today.

[Jizz Mop]

I have people on the Steelers Facebook page calling me an idiot for questioning Ben’s decision making today.

Lot of idiot, uneducated “fans” on FB

I laugh a lot at some of the comments

[Pabst]

Any of you guys that share screen shots could you find one of the Titans defense on this drive before the INT?

It looked to me like the Titans only had 2 guys on the LOS, standing up and maybe another one a few yards farther back. Maybe they were playing quarters deep and flooding the middle with zone which would make the sideline pass tough.
When they came out like that I was yelling for Ben to audible to get a back in the backfield and to run on that formation.

I'll check it out when All 22 is available.

A wasted opportunity for sure.

Here ya go

[Defense]

Meh.

Didn't see it as a problem at all. We were up 3 scores, and a FG still makes it 3 scores.

Low risk, high reward.
Best case, TD or interference.
Worst case was the interception when you have a sizeable lead.

Had we scored a TD it would have been a dagger to the heart instead of a harmless interception.

[K_C_]

Any of you guys that share screen shots could you find one of the Titans defense on this drive before the INT?

It looked to me like the Titans only had 2 guys on the LOS, standing up and maybe another one a few yards farther back. Maybe they were playing quarters deep and flooding the middle with zone which would make the sideline pass tough.
When they came out like that I was yelling for Ben to audible to get a back in the backfield and to run on that formation.

I'll check it out when All 22 is available.

A wasted opportunity for sure.

Here ya go

Christ that's depressing.

[K_C_]

Meh.

Didn't see it as a problem at all. We were up 3 scores, and a FG still makes it 3 scores.

Low risk, high reward.
Best case, TD or interference.
Worst case was the interception when you have a sizeable lead.

Had we scored a TD it would have been a dagger to the heart instead of a harmless interception.

You realize that if Gostkowski makes a VERY makable field goal, we go to overtime with no momentum, right?

If Boz gets a chance and makes a field goal in that situation, the Titans would have needed a TD to win?

...and with the way Boz has been kicking, I'd say he probably has an 85% chance to make a 50 yarder.

Nah, that was absolute stupidity not to try and go to the half up 27-7. Arrogant and fucking stupid.

[tbsteel]

Ben was going for the killshot.

Did I love the INT? No. If that's a TD, which would have effectively ended the game right then and there, would anyone here question the "decision making" of throwing it deep? Fuck no you wouldn't.

He took a risk and it ended up possibly costing us a field goal in the first half. Big deal.

Alex Smith football is boring and ultimately doesn't win when it matters. Ben has been Alex Smith this season for the most part. Ball out quick, keeping it short, playing it safe, depending on YAC and the D. I don't want Ben to lose that aggressiveness and killshot mentality. That's why that dude has been a winner his whole life.

[Jizz Mop]

If Boz was given the opportunity before half to kick it, and for arguments sake, assume he made it.....

30-24 on that final drive that Ben tries to hit JuJu in EZ.

Instead of making that throw to try and win it, a FG there would give them a 9 point lead and barring a miracle, the win.

It was fucking stupid. There’s nothing to debate. Anyone who sees throwing up a Hail Mary int when 3 points were possible just doesn’t get it.

[Boukman]

If Boz was given the opportunity before half to kick it, and for arguments sake, assume he made it.....

30-24 on that final drive that Ben tries to hit JuJu in EZ.

Instead of making that throw to try and win it, a FG there would give them a 9 point lead and barring a miracle, the win.

It was fucking stupid. There’s nothing to debate. Anyone who sees throwing up a Hail Mary int when 3 points were possible just doesn’t get it.

100%

[Scunge]

I was okay with taking the deep shot at the end of the half. I think getting the penalty before that sort of influenced their thinking.

Here is the issue I had with Ben trying to go deep with his passes at the end of the half and in the second half. We were trying to do it with players not named James Washington and Chase Claypool.

JW had 1 target for no catches. Claypool had what?, 1 target for 1 catch and -2 yards???

I get that Ben wants to get the deep passing game going but I feel it has to come with those two WRs getting those deep targets.

My main problem with Ben today is that a little of the old bad Ben showed himself today in the second half. Instead of going to the open man, he was forcing the ball into very tight windows where the player was covered by 2 or 3 defenders. That was so indicative of the old Ben offense where we force feed the ball to certain players so that they can have a great stat line but it also led to more interceptions. Plenty of examples of Ben throwing into tighter coverage today and 3 INTs, not a coincidence.

[K_C_]

He took a risk and it ended up possibly costing us a field goal in the first half. Big deal.

It wasn't risky, it was fucking stupid.

Hail Mary's by and large.......are last resorts. Plays where you're looking for a miracle.

Hoping the improbable comes true.

Bottom line? We lucked out.

[fractalsteel]

Any of you guys that share screen shots could you find one of the Titans defense on this drive before the INT?

It looked to me like the Titans only had 2 guys on the LOS, standing up and maybe another one a few yards farther back. Maybe they were playing quarters deep and flooding the middle with zone which would make the sideline pass tough.
When they came out like that I was yelling for Ben to audible to get a back in the backfield and to run on that formation.

I'll check it out when All 22 is available.

A wasted opportunity for sure.

Here ya go

Thanks Pabst.
I forgot we didn't have any TO's left.
No sense in running there even though there was room for a gain.

14 seconds left, you pretty much have to throw to the EZ. I'll bet the Titans had the sidelines taken away.

[Jobu]

It wasn’t a “Hail Mary”. Ben was trying to hit DJ down the sideline.
I’m going to suggest that a 10-15 yard route and completion, ball spotted and everyone lined up and set to spike the ball is very iffy in 14 seconds.
I have no problem going for the end zone there.

[tbsteel]

It wasn’t a “Hail Mary”. Ben was trying to hit DJ down the sideline.
I’m going to suggest that a 10-15 yard route and completion, ball spotted and everyone lined up and set to spike the ball is very iffy in 14 seconds.
I have no problem going for the end zone there.

[K_C_]

It wasn’t a “Hail Mary”. Ben was trying to hit DJ down the sideline.
I’m going to suggest that a 10-15 yard route and completion, ball spotted and everyone lined up and set to spike the ball is very iffy in 14 seconds.
I have no problem going for the end zone there.

You may want to watch that play again.

It was a heave to the end zone from near midfield.

It was the epitome of a Hail Mary with the hope of a lucky catch or a DPI.

Nothing more.

[Jobu]

It wasn’t a “Hail Mary”. Ben was trying to hit DJ down the sideline.
I’m going to suggest that a 10-15 yard route and completion, ball spotted and everyone lined up and set to spike the ball is very iffy in 14 seconds.
I have no problem going for the end zone there.

You may want to watch that play again.

It was a heave to the end zone from near midfield.

It was the epitome of a Hail Mary with the hope of a lucky catch or a DPI.

Nothing more.

OK. I took your advice and watched it again. DJ was the only receiver in the area. Ben was throwing to him. Not a Hail Mary.

[jeemie]

I watched Tomlin’s post game conference

Said they originally were thinking 3 but the false start on Ebron “changed their mindset” or some bullshit like that

Fuck that

At least try a play to get 5-10 yards and give Boz a chance

Horrible mgmt of the game

The false start changed their mindset to Hail Mary?

Well that's just silly.

If anything the false start ought to have solidified trying to get a FG.

[jeemie]

Any of you guys that share screen shots could you find one of the Titans defense on this drive before the INT?

It looked to me like the Titans only had 2 guys on the LOS, standing up and maybe another one a few yards farther back. Maybe they were playing quarters deep and flooding the middle with zone which would make the sideline pass tough.
When they came out like that I was yelling for Ben to audible to get a back in the backfield and to run on that formation.

I'll check it out when All 22 is available.

A wasted opportunity for sure.

Here ya go

Who's that at the top?

Throw him a quick hitch and let him get as many yards as he can before going OOB. There was plenty of room.

[jeemie]

Meh.

Didn't see it as a problem at all. We were up 3 scores, and a FG still makes it 3 scores.

Low risk, high reward.
Best case, TD or interference.
Worst case was the interception when you have a sizeable lead.

Had we scored a TD it would have been a dagger to the heart instead of a harmless interception.

Wouldn't it have been nice to have a 6 point lead at the end rather than a three point lead?

[Jizz Mop]

The dumb is strong in this thread

[Jizz Mop]

Meh.

Didn't see it as a problem at all. We were up 3 scores, and a FG still makes it 3 scores.

Low risk, high reward.
Best case, TD or interference.
Worst case was the interception when you have a sizeable lead.

Had we scored a TD it would have been a dagger to the heart instead of a harmless interception.

Wouldn't it have been nice to have a 6 point lead at the end rather than a three point lead?

Would have been great. Instead of feeling pressure to throw into a tight window to JJSS, despite being covered by a LBer, perhaps Ben goes with a much more conservative throw when a FG would give you a 9-point lead.

#math #gamemgmt #beingsmart #winning

[jeemie]

If Boz was given the opportunity before half to kick it, and for arguments sake, assume he made it.....

30-24 on that final drive that Ben tries to hit JuJu in EZ.

Instead of making that throw to try and win it, a FG there would give them a 9 point lead and barring a miracle, the win.

It was fucking stupid. There’s nothing to debate. Anyone who sees throwing up a Hail Mary int when 3 points were possible just doesn’t get it.

I didn't even think about this.

If everything else plays out the same way and it's 30-24, Ben isn't trying to hit JuJu in the EZ. He's calling a safe run or pass to set up a FG to make it 33-24 and clinch the ball game.