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I had written about FiveThirtyEight's ranking of the Steelers...

Post by jeemie » Wed Nov 04, 2020 6:24 pm

...as one of the weakest teams to go 7-0 since 1970s, and it bothered me.

Then I saw how they performed on the election last night.

I don't feel so bad now!

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Post by fractalsteel » Wed Nov 04, 2020 11:45 pm

Early November is finally here. I have seen a lot of hate spewed in recent days about a man who is a constant winner and overachiever, and that's what the people who support him like about him. Yes, he's been caught in some lies and maybe twisted the truth a little but he's still out there proving his haters wrong time after time. Some people are just jealous of someone who is successful and has money. Throw in a hot foreign underwear model at his side and they hate him even more. You may not have wanted him in his role, but he's there now and there's nothing you can do about it. I know it’s possibly just going to get worse over the next several days, but like him or not, Tom Brady is turning things around in Tampa.

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Post by Ice » Wed Nov 04, 2020 11:47 pm

fractalsteel wrote:
Wed Nov 04, 2020 11:45 pm
Early November is finally here. I have seen a lot of hate spewed in recent days about a man who is a constant winner and overachiever, and that's what the people who support him like about him. Yes, he's been caught in some lies and maybe twisted the truth a little but he's still out there proving his haters wrong time after time. Some people are just jealous of someone who is successful and has money. Throw in a hot foreign underwear model at his side and they hate him even more. You may not have wanted him in his role, but he's there now and there's nothing you can do about it. I know it’s possibly just going to get worse over the next several days, but like him or not, Tom Brady is turning things around in Tampa.
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Post by Drummer Boy » Thu Nov 05, 2020 3:51 am

fractalsteel wrote:
Wed Nov 04, 2020 11:45 pm
Early November is finally here. I have seen a lot of hate spewed in recent days about a man who is a constant winner and overachiever, and that's what the people who support him like about him. Yes, he's been caught in some lies and maybe twisted the truth a little but he's still out there proving his haters wrong time after time. Some people are just jealous of someone who is successful and has money. Throw in a hot foreign underwear model at his side and they hate him even more. You may not have wanted him in his role, but he's there now and there's nothing you can do about it. I know it’s possibly just going to get worse over the next several days, but like him or not, Tom Brady is turning things around in Tampa.
That is perfect!

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Post by bradshaw2ben » Thu Nov 05, 2020 3:59 pm

fractalsteel wrote:
Wed Nov 04, 2020 11:45 pm
Early November is finally here. I have seen a lot of hate spewed in recent days about a man who is a constant winner and overachiever, and that's what the people who support him like about him. Yes, he's been caught in some lies and maybe twisted the truth a little but he's still out there proving his haters wrong time after time. Some people are just jealous of someone who is successful and has money. Throw in a hot foreign underwear model at his side and they hate him even more. You may not have wanted him in his role, but he's there now and there's nothing you can do about it. I know it’s possibly just going to get worse over the next several days, but like him or not, Tom Brady is turning things around in Tampa.
Here is a list of the DVOA for all Super Bowl Champions since 2004. DVOA measures strength of teams relative to the NFL average in that season, espressed as a percentage above or below NFL average:

2004 NE 35.0% above avg (Steelers were 37.6)
2005 PIT 27.2%
2006 IND 17.9%
2007 NYG 1.4%
2008 PIT 26.4%
2009 NO 25.2%
2010 GB 23.5%
2011 NYG 7.3%
2012 BAL 9.0%
2013 SEA 31.7%
2014 NE 21.6%
2015 DEN 17.4%
2016 NE 25.1%
2017 PHI 23.7%
2018 NE 13.5%
2019 KC 30.1%
2020 PIT 30.2%
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Post by Quixotic » Thu Nov 05, 2020 4:44 pm

bradshaw2ben wrote:
Thu Nov 05, 2020 3:59 pm
fractalsteel wrote:
Wed Nov 04, 2020 11:45 pm
Early November is finally here. I have seen a lot of hate spewed in recent days about a man who is a constant winner and overachiever, and that's what the people who support him like about him. Yes, he's been caught in some lies and maybe twisted the truth a little but he's still out there proving his haters wrong time after time. Some people are just jealous of someone who is successful and has money. Throw in a hot foreign underwear model at his side and they hate him even more. You may not have wanted him in his role, but he's there now and there's nothing you can do about it. I know it’s possibly just going to get worse over the next several days, but like him or not, Tom Brady is turning things around in Tampa.
Here is a list of the DVOA for all Super Bowl Champions since 2004. DVOA measures strength of teams relative to the NFL average in that season, espressed as a percentage above or below NFL average:

2004 NE 35.0% above avg (Steelers were 37.6)
2005 PIT 27.2%
2006 IND 17.9%
2007 NYG 1.4%
2008 PIT 26.4%
2009 NO 25.2%
2010 GB 23.5%
2011 NYG 7.3%
2012 BAL 9.0%
2013 SEA 31.7%
2014 NE 21.6%
2015 DEN 17.4%
2016 NE 25.1%
2017 PHI 23.7%
2018 NE 13.5%
2019 KC 30.1%
2020 PIT 30.2%
It’s good to be reminded just how WEAK the two Giants teams were that gave the cheats a smackdown. Thanks B2B. Basically, they were beaten up by the 98-pound weakling.

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Post by Quixotic » Thu Nov 05, 2020 4:44 pm

fractalsteel wrote:
Wed Nov 04, 2020 11:45 pm
Early November is finally here. I have seen a lot of hate spewed in recent days about a man who is a constant winner and overachiever, and that's what the people who support him like about him. Yes, he's been caught in some lies and maybe twisted the truth a little but he's still out there proving his haters wrong time after time. Some people are just jealous of someone who is successful and has money. Throw in a hot foreign underwear model at his side and they hate him even more. You may not have wanted him in his role, but he's there now and there's nothing you can do about it. I know it’s possibly just going to get worse over the next several days, but like him or not, Tom Brady is turning things around in Tampa.
Now That’s funny.

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Post by Kodiak » Thu Nov 05, 2020 4:46 pm

Yeah, the DVOA guys have PhD's in math and statistics. They actually know their shit.
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Post by Pabst » Thu Nov 05, 2020 4:57 pm

bradshaw2ben wrote:
Thu Nov 05, 2020 3:59 pm
fractalsteel wrote:
Wed Nov 04, 2020 11:45 pm
Early November is finally here. I have seen a lot of hate spewed in recent days about a man who is a constant winner and overachiever, and that's what the people who support him like about him. Yes, he's been caught in some lies and maybe twisted the truth a little but he's still out there proving his haters wrong time after time. Some people are just jealous of someone who is successful and has money. Throw in a hot foreign underwear model at his side and they hate him even more. You may not have wanted him in his role, but he's there now and there's nothing you can do about it. I know it’s possibly just going to get worse over the next several days, but like him or not, Tom Brady is turning things around in Tampa.
Here is a list of the DVOA for all Super Bowl Champions since 2004. DVOA measures strength of teams relative to the NFL average in that season, espressed as a percentage above or below NFL average:

2004 NE 35.0% above avg (Steelers were 37.6)
2005 PIT 27.2%
2006 IND 17.9%
2007 NYG 1.4%
2008 PIT 26.4%
2009 NO 25.2%
2010 GB 23.5%
2011 NYG 7.3%
2012 BAL 9.0%
2013 SEA 31.7%
2014 NE 21.6%
2015 DEN 17.4%
2016 NE 25.1%
2017 PHI 23.7%
2018 NE 13.5%
2019 KC 30.1%
2020 PIT 30.2%
You have a link for this? I'm just curious about the methodology and whatnot. I like digging into the weeds on these things.

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Post by Drummer Boy » Thu Nov 05, 2020 5:11 pm

Pabst wrote:
Thu Nov 05, 2020 4:57 pm
You have a link for this? I'm just curious about the methodology and whatnot. I like digging into the weeds on these things.
It's footballoutsiders.com. They explain the basics of their methodology, but not all of it. They are in business after all.

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Post by Pabst » Thu Nov 05, 2020 5:19 pm

Drummer Boy wrote:
Thu Nov 05, 2020 5:11 pm
Pabst wrote:
Thu Nov 05, 2020 4:57 pm
You have a link for this? I'm just curious about the methodology and whatnot. I like digging into the weeds on these things.
It's footballoutsiders.com. They explain the basics of their methodology, but not all of it. They are in business after all.

Thanks!

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