Time for Some Ben Blame from His Biggest Fan!

[LakecrestSteeler]

When the playbook has numerous effective plays in the passing and running game life is good.

The lottery basket is full of 100 balls from which the opposing defensive coordinator must pull until he gets his numbers and wins!


Ben quit dicking around and QB sneak it. You have cost us several TDs and drive continuations already this year without this threat!

Remove 5 numbered balls not on DC’s lottery ticket.

You have made yourself and this team so one dimensional with the lack of disguise. Too many empty backfields. I love 5 wide, but you have gone to the well too often.

Remove 7 numbered balls not on DC’s lottery ticket.

You have completely eliminated all play action. You can play action the run to open up some passes such as a fake up the gut and then a quick slant. You can also play action a fake pass to a quick slant and then do a statue of liberty to the RB on a delayed draw.

Remove 8 numbered balls not on DC’s lottery ticket.

Zero ball skills being utilized. Disguise the ball on your hip, bend over with the handoffs, put fake handoffs deep in the belly of the RB, fake throws after handoffs, direct snaps to RBs, roll out once in a while, pooch punt the ball on 4th.

Remove 5 numbered balls not on DC’s lottery ticket.

How about a throw to a RB through the middle of the line after a play action fake off a jet sweep? Where have the middle screens gone?

Remove 5 numbered balls not on DC’s lottery ticket.

Are you allergic to Vance?

Remove 3 numbered balls not on DC’s lottery ticket.

You have missed Derek Watt twice on wide open plays on the goalline.

Remove 2 numbered balls not on DC’s lottery ticket.

No QB sneak threat on the goal line is part of the running game’s short yardage problem. QB sneak with a silent count or quick count even more dangerous.

Remove 5 numbered balls not on DC’s lottery ticket.

Lack of under center on the goal line whittles the playbook down too severely! How about some quick snaps in short yardage to help the line and the RBs and maybe just maybe you might be able to draw them offsides later on.

Remove 5 numbered balls not on DC’s lottery ticket.

Zero pop passes to the TEs from under center!

Remove 5 numbered balls not on DC’s lottery ticket.

That is 50 numbered balls in total, not on DC’s lottery ticket, removed from the basket. I don’t know the exact number of plays you remove from the playbook, from certain down and distances, or from goal line, but the point is there is zero need to remove any!

Get to work, your stats do not absolve you from this offensive ED! Ben? Randy? Canada? Who gives a shit fix it! You are 38 years old, you know the levers to pull.

[LakecrestSteeler]

I am guessing posting at 3:15am was a lead balloon!

Criticism of Ben not warranted?

[955876]

I think he deserves some.

This is his offense as much as anyone’s.

You think Sphincter crams this down Ben’s throat begrudgingly?

Ben isn’t getting sacked or hit as often and the W/L looks great so it’s been easy to ignore the stench.

However, they are but kicking this can down the road and when they make yet another playoff exit they will “tip their cap” to the opponent then cite their own failed execution.

The stellar record means no coaches get the axe and it will be business as usual next year.

Albeit with an older and more risk adverse/lazy Ben

He looked pretty slick spinning out of that would be sack last night.

Just think if they integrated some rollouts etc...

Likely answer is I’m laying more blame at Ben’s feet than need be.

In reality, I bet this overhyped and overrated oline simply isnt capable of facilitating any of that shit.

Run play action and you’ll have a defender in Ben’s face as soon as he turns around.



Roll him out only to see him blasted as one of the TEs wiff on a block.

Take deeper drops in attempt to push ball down field only to see the sacks & possibly injuries to Ben follow.

I don’t think our oline is up to anything more than what we’ve been doing and that’s holding their “blocks” for no more than 2 seconds.

[alancac98]

I think the blame is warranted. He needs to get his ass under center. I wrote about that in another thread. It would help his OL in the running game as well, which will help the passing game! All win-win!

[LakecrestSteeler]

Likely answer is I’m laying more blame at Ben’s feet than need be.

In reality, I bet this overhyped and overrated oline simply isnt capable of facilitating any of that shit.

Run play action and you’ll have a defender in Ben’s face as soon as he turns around.



Roll him out only to see him blasted as one of the TEs wiff on a block.

Take deeper drops in attempt to push ball down field only to see the sacks & possibly injuries to Ben follow.

I don’t think our oline is up to anything more than what we’ve been doing and that’s holding their “blocks” for no more than 2 seconds.

The bottom half had me laughing. Sometimes the truth hurts and sometimes it is funny. In this case it is both.

I was thinking the same when I wrote this...especially to get the ball deeper on play action. For every action there is an equal and opposite reaction.

QB sneaks and under center should be safe enough.

[955876]

QB sneaks and under center should be safe enough.

We had 4 shots to move the ball less than a yard.

For the life of me I cannot understand why throwing it to a rarely (if ever) used reserve OT is the play call over telling your 240+ lb. quarterback follow the center & guard into EZ while the FB and/or RB come up from behind to push your ass.

[LakecrestSteeler]

QB sneaks and under center should be safe enough.

We had 4 shots to move the ball less than a yard.

For the life of me I cannot understand why throwing it to a rarely (if ever) used reserve OT is the play call over telling your 240+ lb. quarterback follow the center & guard into EZ while the FB and/or RB come up from behind to push your ass.

Just to be clear, Ben has been awesome playing and most of this is philosophical and the nexus of OC, QB coach, and QB. But Ben is part of the problem with this philosophy that has a hitch in the giddy-up.

QB sneak? Have the RBs practice it with a wide stance and the center can still snap it to the RB under center or shotgun to Ben if the QB is too fragile. No rule that says the ball can’t be snapped through 2 sets of legs.

[Obviously]

Kind of tired of him telling us he needs to play better. How about just play better instead of talking about it? You've been in the league since 2004, and you're likely a first-ballot hall of famer, so perhaps you find better targets at the goal line that fucking Jerald Hawkins who can't get out of his own fucking way. But sure, I'll tip my cap to Washington's defense.

[Jobu]

You think Sphincter crams this down Ben’s throat begrudgingly?

Yes...yes I do. Do we really think that a guy that’s been to 3 Super Bowls, winning 2, and has built a HoF career by being a gunslinger is really signing up for this small ball bullshit?
Did you all notice that the “Ben drawing up plays in the dirt” offense disappeared about 3 weeks ago?
Sorry, but BR is the one and only reason this offense has kept its head above water. The problem is on the sideline, and it starts (and likely ends) with the bullshitter wearing aviators.

[DP39]

Kind of tired of him telling us he needs to play better. How about just play better instead of talking about it? You've been in the league since 2004, and you're likely a first-ballot hall of famer, so perhaps you find better targets at the goal line that fucking Jerald Hawkins who can't get out of his own fucking way. But sure, I'll tip my cap to Washington's defense.

Agreed.

And, the same can be said for Tomlin. Every loss (or bad game) he says the same thing, "We've got to coach better!" Strange, but rarely do I see where he's actually coaching better. He never seems to learn, actually.

[955876]

You think Sphincter crams this down Ben’s throat begrudgingly?

Yes...yes I do. Do we really think that a guy that’s been to 3 Super Bowls, winning 2, and has built a HoF career by being a gunslinger is really signing up for this small ball bullshit?
Did you all notice that the “Ben drawing up plays in the dirt” offense disappeared about 3 weeks ago?
Sorry, but BR is the one and only reason this offense has kept its head above water. The problem is on the sideline, and it starts (and likely ends) with the bullshitter wearing aviators.

The plays in this offense are in this offense because Ben signs off on them.

If he hates it then instead of blaming him for the offense we can blame him for being complicit.

If he hates the offense where is the smoke that Ben is unhappy with offense? The sideline confrontations. The thinly veiled criticism during interviews etc.

I’ve seen none this far. Maybe it’ll come. But these guys have been together for a while now and has there been any grumbling? We had it from the get go with Haley.

If he hates the offense and thinks Randy is stupid why did he come he back? Or better question since $$ is involved, why didn’t he say he wasn’t coming back unless Sphincter is replaced?

Drawing up “plays in the dirt” just means they went no huddle. It also means that with so many young guys Ben might have had to tell them where to go and what the play is ie “draw up play in the dirt”.

Guys like Claypool etc likley have limited knowledge of adjustments etc that are made at the line during no huddle.

So Ben needs to be coach on the field.

None of it however shows Ben hates th e offense.

I doubt Ben likes getting knocked around like a piñata so he may very well like this new never get sacked offense after how he spent a large part of his career.

Ben also has 100% control over how long he holds the ball. If he hates the scheme so much he’d be out there holding the football longer waiting for guys to get open rather than getting it out faster than any other QB.

[LakecrestSteeler]

You think Sphincter crams this down Ben’s throat begrudgingly?

Yes...yes I do. Do we really think that a guy that’s been to 3 Super Bowls, winning 2, and has built a HoF career by being a gunslinger is really signing up for this small ball bullshit?
Did you all notice that the “Ben drawing up plays in the dirt” offense disappeared about 3 weeks ago?
Sorry, but BR is the one and only reason this offense has kept its head above water. The problem is on the sideline, and it starts (and likely ends) with the bullshitter wearing aviators.

The plays in this offense are in this offense because Ben signs off on them.

If he hates it then instead of blaming him for the offense we can blame him for being complicit.

If he hates the offense where is the smoke that Ben is unhappy with offense? The sideline confrontations. The thinly veiled criticism during interviews etc.

I’ve seen none this far. Maybe it’ll come. But these guys have been together for a while now and has there been any grumbling? We had it from the get go with Haley.

If he hates the offense and thinks Randy is stupid why did he come he back? Or better question since $$ is involved, why didn’t he say he wasn’t coming back unless Sphincter is replaced?

Drawing up “plays in the dirt” just means they went no huddle. It also means that with so many young guys Ben might have had to tell them where to go and what the play is ie “draw up play in the dirt”.

Guys like Claypool etc likley have limited knowledge of adjustments etc that are made at the line during no huddle.

So Ben needs to be coach on the field.

None of it however shows Ben hates th e offense.

I doubt Ben likes getting knocked around like a piñata so he may very well like this new never get sacked offense after how he spent a large part of his career.

Ben also has 100% control over how long he holds the ball. If he hates the scheme so much he’d be out there holding the football longer waiting for guys to get open rather than getting it out faster than any other QB.

In a nutshell l’m happy to get it to the playmakers that are only able to make plays part of the time when they catch it.

I want to see Ben get pissed and start grabbing some facemasks in the huddle. Linemen included. Slap the stupid off of some of them....Al and his stumbling bumbling whiff annoyed the piss out of me. And then his proclaiming a TD and Ben in the same motion proclaiming a foot short!

[El Kabong]

You think Sphincter crams this down Ben’s throat begrudgingly?

Yes...yes I do. Do we really think that a guy that’s been to 3 Super Bowls, winning 2, and has built a HoF career by being a gunslinger is really signing up for this small ball bullshit?
Did you all notice that the “Ben drawing up plays in the dirt” offense disappeared about 3 weeks ago?
Sorry, but BR is the one and only reason this offense has kept its head above water. The problem is on the sideline, and it starts (and likely ends) with the bullshitter wearing aviators.

The plays in this offense are in this offense because Ben signs off on them.

If he hates it then instead of blaming him for the offense we can blame him for being complicit.

If he hates the offense where is the smoke that Ben is unhappy with offense? The sideline confrontations. The thinly veiled criticism during interviews etc.

I’ve seen none this far. Maybe it’ll come. But these guys have been together for a while now and has there been any grumbling? We had it from the get go with Haley.

If he hates the offense and thinks Randy is stupid why did he come he back? Or better question since $$ is involved, why didn’t he say he wasn’t coming back unless Sphincter is replaced?

Drawing up “plays in the dirt” just means they went no huddle. It also means that with so many young guys Ben might have had to tell them where to go and what the play is ie “draw up play in the dirt”.

Guys like Claypool etc likley have limited knowledge of adjustments etc that are made at the line during no huddle.

So Ben needs to be coach on the field.

None of it however shows Ben hates th e offense.

I doubt Ben likes getting knocked around like a piñata so he may very well like this new never get sacked offense after how he spent a large part of his career.

Ben also has 100% control over how long he holds the ball. If he hates the scheme so much he’d be out there holding the football longer waiting for guys to get open rather than getting it out faster than any other QB.

Wow, I'm going to quote you in another thread.

[955876]

Well thank you. They say even a blind squirrel can find a nut. Guess I found mine yesterday...

[pickarooney]

Has anyone noticed Ben massaging that right elbow on the sidelines? There was a shot of it last game in addition to other moments this season. Can't help but wonder if not all is well with that arm--maybe the longer passes hurt, they suspect that repaired tendon has an expiration date but are hiding the injury in hopes of one last hurrah? Not that any of that explains his averaging 50 throws per game or whatever. But if it's fine, why do I keep seeing him rubbing and wincing?