Colbert Non-Committal on Ben Return; Fans Rejoice

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Colbert Non-Committal on Ben Return; Fans Rejoice

Post by bradshaw2ben » Wed Feb 17, 2021 7:23 pm

https://twitter.com/akinkhabwala/status ... 03394?s=21

Aditi on Twitter:

#Steelers GM Kevin Colbert says that in meetings w/ him, owner Art Rooney and coach Mike Tomlin, QB Ben Roethlisberger “reiterated… he wants to continue to play… We told him quite frankly, we have to look at this situation.”



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Post by bradshaw2ben » Wed Feb 17, 2021 7:24 pm

First page of fan reactions says it all. Let’s hope Ben isn’t taking into account if the fans want him back:
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Post by shellwagnerblount » Wed Feb 17, 2021 7:33 pm

bradshaw2ben wrote:
Wed Feb 17, 2021 7:23 pm
https://twitter.com/akinkhabwala/status ... 03394?s=21

Aditi on Twitter:

#Steelers GM Kevin Colbert says that in meetings w/ him, owner Art Rooney and coach Mike Tomlin, QB Ben Roethlisberger “reiterated… he wants to continue to play… We told him quite frankly, we have to look at this situation.”
I mentally substituted "HC Mike Tomlin" and "continue to coach" and felt so much better!

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Post by Thrillsseeker » Wed Feb 17, 2021 8:21 pm

bradshaw2ben wrote:
Wed Feb 17, 2021 7:24 pm
First page of fan reactions says it all. Let’s hope Ben isn’t taking into account if the fans want him back:


This is unreal to me.

I’m also well aware of ppl here on this board say the same shit.

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Post by bradshaw2ben » Wed Feb 17, 2021 8:28 pm

shellwagnerblount wrote:
Wed Feb 17, 2021 7:33 pm
bradshaw2ben wrote:
Wed Feb 17, 2021 7:23 pm
https://twitter.com/akinkhabwala/status ... 03394?s=21

Aditi on Twitter:

#Steelers GM Kevin Colbert says that in meetings w/ him, owner Art Rooney and coach Mike Tomlin, QB Ben Roethlisberger “reiterated… he wants to continue to play… We told him quite frankly, we have to look at this situation.”
I mentally substituted "HC Mike Tomlin" and "continue to coach" and felt so much better!
I wrote this exact thing on Twitter.

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Post by anpsteel » Wed Feb 17, 2021 8:28 pm

Thrillsseeker wrote:
Wed Feb 17, 2021 8:21 pm
bradshaw2ben wrote:
Wed Feb 17, 2021 7:24 pm
First page of fan reactions says it all. Let’s hope Ben isn’t taking into account if the fans want him back:


This is unreal to me.

I’m also well aware of ppl here on this board say the same shit.
Ben was absolutely a large component of the problem, this past season.

Is there a better option available for 2021?? Probably not.

Should they move on??

It it lets the team evaluate Rudolph and Tomlin, objectively, so they can be prepared for 2022- absofuckinglutely

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Post by shellwagnerblount » Wed Feb 17, 2021 8:35 pm

bradshaw2ben wrote:
Wed Feb 17, 2021 8:28 pm
shellwagnerblount wrote:
Wed Feb 17, 2021 7:33 pm
bradshaw2ben wrote:
Wed Feb 17, 2021 7:23 pm
https://twitter.com/akinkhabwala/status ... 03394?s=21

Aditi on Twitter:

#Steelers GM Kevin Colbert says that in meetings w/ him, owner Art Rooney and coach Mike Tomlin, QB Ben Roethlisberger “reiterated… he wants to continue to play… We told him quite frankly, we have to look at this situation.”
I mentally substituted "HC Mike Tomlin" and "continue to coach" and felt so much better!
I wrote this exact thing on Twitter.
I can't wait for the Rudolph era to begin..And for Ben to be starting for the SF 49ers! LOL...

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Post by jewelsongs » Wed Feb 17, 2021 8:38 pm

I think this is multi-faceted. People shouldn't celebrate Ben leaving. He has been the most important Steeler for much of his career. He should be celebrated. The Steelers have to make a business decision, and we don't know what his agent is asking for. If moving on from Ben allows them to keep Bud, I would do that. If it doesn't keep Bud, and Ben is reasonable, I keep Ben.

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Post by StillerInCT » Wed Feb 17, 2021 8:59 pm

The reality, whether people choose to accept it or not, is that we're not winning a title with or without Ben next year. The problems this team has won't be solved by whether we extend Ben or not. Might as well save the money, try and acquire some extra picks for the 2022 draft, and then deal with the inevitable tanking that comes with it. Maybe then Rooney will wake up and see that we're bang average because of shit coaching and game-planning.

With respect to Ben himself. He's an absolute legend and first ballot hall of famer. But I flat out can not forget the mental mistakes he made against Cleveland while running an offense tailor made for a local HS varsity team. Maybe I'm oversimplifying things, but the offense we were running last season was pretty God damn basic.

I'm done being nostalgic. If I have to watch the offense I saw last year just so Ben can have his $20M farewell tour I'll gouge my eyes out.
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Post by Obviously » Wed Feb 17, 2021 8:59 pm

I don't know if those dimwits are rejoicing, but they're really gonna hate what they wish for if it comes to that.
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Post by the-other-burg » Wed Feb 17, 2021 9:05 pm

Obviously wrote:
Wed Feb 17, 2021 8:59 pm
I don't know if those dimwits are rejoicing, but they're really gonna hate what they wish for if it comes to that.
Most of these dimwits probably think Tomlin's a good coach and a new QB is the answer. Man they're gonna be disappointed..

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Post by Jizz Mop » Wed Feb 17, 2021 9:12 pm

I’m still trying to accept a very talented team was bounced from the playoffs, at home, versus the Browns.

To recap:

Browns had no HC, a reshuffled patchwork Oline, and other players ineligible due to Covid.

Yet

We lost

The blame:

Aviators, Ben, Pouncey and the D

I don’t see us 11-0 anytime soon

Get used to 7-9, 6-10

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Post by Professor Half Wit » Wed Feb 17, 2021 9:14 pm

Jizz Mop wrote:
Wed Feb 17, 2021 9:12 pm
I’m still trying to accept a very talented team was bounced from the playoffs, at home, versus the Browns.

To recap:

Browns had no HC, a reshuffled patchwork Oline, and other players ineligible due to Covid.

Yet

We lost

The blame:

Aviators, Ben, Pouncey and the D

I don’t see us 11-0 anytime soon

Get used to 7-9, 6-10
Further away the loss recedes the more disappointed in the players I get. The Tomlin disappointment remains the same: high.
"Just don't kill us."

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Post by zeke5123 » Wed Feb 17, 2021 9:14 pm

bradshaw2ben wrote:
Wed Feb 17, 2021 7:23 pm
https://twitter.com/akinkhabwala/status ... 03394?s=21

Aditi on Twitter:

#Steelers GM Kevin Colbert says that in meetings w/ him, owner Art Rooney and coach Mike Tomlin, QB Ben Roethlisberger “reiterated… he wants to continue to play… We told him quite frankly, we have to look at this situation.”
This is a disingenuous quote from Aditi (not blaming B2B). After saying the above, Colbert stated: "With Ben's current cap number, some adjustment will have to be made."

That seems to me to wholly change the tenure of the comment. That sounds more like "we want you back, but not at that cap hit."

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Post by bradshaw2ben » Wed Feb 17, 2021 9:21 pm

Yeah well no kidding

I just think there’s no benefit to sucking more quickly. There’s no evidence you get better faster, especially since their defense will be too good to lose 12 or 13 games, no matter who is QB. They don’t get any comp picks if Ben retires or is cut and they’re not going to get better as a result. Why not keep him for the minimal difference in salary between a vet min kind of cap hit and cutting him? Makes no sense.

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Post by Orangesteel » Wed Feb 17, 2021 9:28 pm

Watching Brady last year in New England...did people really think he’d be holding the Lombardi a year later in Tampa? Be honest...I didn’t. I thought Brady made them a bit more competitive in a pretty tough division. That’s all.

Now Brady is drunk on a boat somewhere making room for a 7th ring.

Point is, you are a goddamn idiot if you don’t think keeping Ben gives us our best shot next year. He gives us our best shot until he retires, period. We are in for years of suck. And that’s not even bringing up how bad Mike Tomlin is.

You keep Ben until he’s done. Everything else is just a bunch of Ben-hating waterheads.

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Post by zeke5123 » Wed Feb 17, 2021 9:38 pm

bradshaw2ben wrote:
Wed Feb 17, 2021 9:21 pm
Yeah well no kidding

I just think there’s no benefit to sucking more quickly. There’s no evidence you get better faster, especially since their defense will be too good to lose 12 or 13 games, no matter who is QB. They don’t get any comp picks if Ben retires or is cut and they’re not going to get better as a result. Why not keep him for the minimal difference in salary between a vet min kind of cap hit and cutting him? Makes no sense.
The only downside is you don't get to see Rudolph play. I don't think Rudolph is worth anything so not much downside.

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Post by K_C_ » Wed Feb 17, 2021 9:40 pm

Obviously wrote:
Wed Feb 17, 2021 8:59 pm
I don't know if those dimwits are rejoicing, but they're really gonna hate what they wish for if it comes to that.
Ben played one outstanding half in the last 5 or six games of the season.

One. Outstanding. HALF.

I have news for you....we aren't going to be be 11-0 next season before the bottom drops out.

It's going to happen far sooner.....with or without Ben Roethlisberger.
"In my opinion, he is a great motivator and good leader of men, but a shit tactician and absolutely game day imbecile".

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Post by K_C_ » Wed Feb 17, 2021 9:42 pm

Jizz Mop wrote:
Wed Feb 17, 2021 9:12 pm
I’m still trying to accept a very talented team was bounced from the playoffs, at home, versus the Browns.

To recap:

Browns had no HC, a reshuffled patchwork Oline, and other players ineligible due to Covid.

Yet

We lost

The blame:

Aviators, Ben, Pouncey and the D

I don’t see us 11-0 anytime soon

Get used to 7-9, 6-10
I still can't believe the offense looked FAR, FAR better just one week earlier, with Bibberty in charge.

Basically in every aspect.

I still cannot believe what happened one week after we lost in Cleveland, because we failed on a 2 point play that could have sent the game to overtime.

Holy shit.
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Post by K_C_ » Wed Feb 17, 2021 9:44 pm

shellwagnerblount wrote:
Wed Feb 17, 2021 8:35 pm
bradshaw2ben wrote:
Wed Feb 17, 2021 8:28 pm
shellwagnerblount wrote:
Wed Feb 17, 2021 7:33 pm


I mentally substituted "HC Mike Tomlin" and "continue to coach" and felt so much better!
I wrote this exact thing on Twitter.
I can't wait for the Rudolph era to begin..And for Ben to be starting for the SF 49ers! LOL...
I wonder how much San Fran will enjoy the 4 picks he'll throw if they make the playoffs?
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Post by rooneytunes » Wed Feb 17, 2021 9:53 pm

He's gonna go through all of that with getting his arm repaired for just one year?

Not happening. He will be back. Probably for two more years.
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Post by K_C_ » Wed Feb 17, 2021 10:10 pm

rooneytunes wrote:
Wed Feb 17, 2021 9:53 pm
He's gonna go through all of that with getting his arm repaired for just one year?

Not happening. He will be back. Probably for two more years.
Well.....Ben better start talking about a DISCOUNT DOUBLE CHECK because the Steelers aren't paying top dollar for what they witnessed from him in 2020.

Just isn't going to happen and from what I take from Colbert's statement....Ben doesn't want seem to want to play at a steep discount.

If Ben doesn't want to play for pennies on the dollar, then he needs to finish his career elsewhere.

Starting in 2021 if at all possible.
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Post by Steelperch » Wed Feb 17, 2021 10:26 pm

I really hate Steelers fans.

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Post by meanjustinbarlow » Wed Feb 17, 2021 10:37 pm

bradshaw2ben wrote:
Wed Feb 17, 2021 9:21 pm
Yeah well no kidding

I just think there’s no benefit to sucking more quickly. There’s no evidence you get better faster, especially since their defense will be too good to lose 12 or 13 games, no matter who is QB. They don’t get any comp picks if Ben retires or is cut and they’re not going to get better as a result. Why not keep him for the minimal difference in salary between a vet min kind of cap hit and cutting him? Makes no sense.
How low do you really think Ben will go?

I think the fact that we are seeing statements like these from management tells us that Ben isn’t thinking anywhere near the vet min.

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Post by zeke5123 » Wed Feb 17, 2021 11:08 pm

meanjustinbarlow wrote:
Wed Feb 17, 2021 10:37 pm
bradshaw2ben wrote:
Wed Feb 17, 2021 9:21 pm
Yeah well no kidding

I just think there’s no benefit to sucking more quickly. There’s no evidence you get better faster, especially since their defense will be too good to lose 12 or 13 games, no matter who is QB. They don’t get any comp picks if Ben retires or is cut and they’re not going to get better as a result. Why not keep him for the minimal difference in salary between a vet min kind of cap hit and cutting him? Makes no sense.
How low do you really think Ben will go?

I think the fact that we are seeing statements like these from management tells us that Ben isn’t thinking anywhere near the vet min.
I don't think B2B is saying vet min. He is saying if you cut Ben, there is still a cap hit. So that cap hit plus the vet min seems like more value.

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Post by Greeksteel » Wed Feb 17, 2021 11:08 pm

Steelperch wrote:
Wed Feb 17, 2021 10:26 pm
I really hate Steelers fans.
Thats what i was thinking as well. Oh and fuck Colbert, Tomlin and ARII as well.

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Post by Thrillsseeker » Wed Feb 17, 2021 11:27 pm

Steelperch wrote:
Wed Feb 17, 2021 10:26 pm
I really hate Steelers fans.
I second this.

As I age I find myself hating most ppl.

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Post by K_C_ » Wed Feb 17, 2021 11:45 pm

Steelperch wrote:
Wed Feb 17, 2021 10:26 pm
I really hate Steelers fans.
:lol:

Were you hating Steeler fans when Cleveland was handing the team ANOTHER, regularly scheduled home playoff ass beating while Ben and company were in turning it over as often as they possibly could and the defense couldn’t stop shit?

But sure, I’m sure if Ben comes back we’re gonna win it all as a big going away present for good ol’ #7.

:lol:
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Post by El Kabong » Wed Feb 17, 2021 11:49 pm

I wouldn't say I'm rejoicing...
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Post by Stillchest » Thu Feb 18, 2021 12:07 am

K_C_ wrote:
Wed Feb 17, 2021 11:45 pm
Steelperch wrote:
Wed Feb 17, 2021 10:26 pm
I really hate Steelers fans.
:lol:

Were you hating Steeler fans when Cleveland was handing the team ANOTHER, regularly scheduled home playoff ass beating while Ben and company were in turning it over as often as they possibly could and the defense couldn’t stop shit?

But sure, I’m sure if Ben comes back we’re gonna win it all as a big going away present for good ol’ #7.

:lol:
Actually, those have been my sentiments towards many Steelers fans for about 8 years.

Nothing personal, but many of you are fucking masochists and don’t realize it.

You’ve been defeated in your elder age.

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