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Post by steelmann58 » Thu Mar 17, 2022 1:54 am

WR. CB. DL.



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Post by Stlcrtn1974 » Thu Mar 17, 2022 2:04 am

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Post by cop1211 » Thu Mar 17, 2022 2:24 am

CB Trent McDuffie
DT Jordan Davis
OLB Jermaine Johnson
S Dax Hill

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Post by jewelsongs » Thu Mar 17, 2022 2:31 am

Trade up and get Davis. Imagine a front 7 with Cam, Tuitt, Davis, Watt, Highsmith and Jack. Opposing QBs will be eating dirt all night.

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Post by Burghboy » Thu Mar 17, 2022 3:17 am

jewelsongs wrote:
Thu Mar 17, 2022 2:31 am
Trade up and get Davis. Imagine a front 7 with Cam, Tuitt, Davis, Watt, Highsmith and Jack. Opposing QBs will be eating dirt all night.
You forgot Bush :D

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Post by jewelsongs » Thu Mar 17, 2022 3:25 am

Burghboy wrote:
Thu Mar 17, 2022 3:17 am
jewelsongs wrote:
Thu Mar 17, 2022 2:31 am
Trade up and get Davis. Imagine a front 7 with Cam, Tuitt, Davis, Watt, Highsmith and Jack. Opposing QBs will be eating dirt all night.
You forgot Bush :D
I know!

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Post by Who Dee Knee » Thu Mar 17, 2022 4:09 am

I don’t know how realistic it is, but I just did another simulation.

No one at 20 I had to have, and Lions offered me 32, 66 and 97 for 20 and 241.

32 Trent McDuffie
52 Travis Jones
66 Jalen Tolbert
84 Skyy Moore
97 Daniel Faalele

I only went three rounds deep.
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Post by SteelerDayTrader » Thu Mar 17, 2022 4:52 am

It depends. They desperately need a 10 yr star

NT would help Heyward and Watt a lot. So would OLB
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Post by DP39 » Thu Mar 17, 2022 1:21 pm

Who Dee Knee wrote:
Thu Mar 17, 2022 4:09 am
I don’t know how realistic it is, but I just did another simulation.

No one at 20 I had to have, and Lions offered me 32, 66 and 97 for 20 and 241.

32 Trent McDuffie
52 Travis Jones
66 Jalen Tolbert
84 Skyy Moore
97 Daniel Faalele

I only went three rounds deep.
While I LOVE the idea of trading back to get more spins at this deep draft wheel, I feel there's a decent chance that McDuffie won't be there at 20, much less 32.

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Post by Deebo » Thu Mar 17, 2022 5:44 pm

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Post by Ice » Thu Mar 17, 2022 6:01 pm

DP39 wrote:
Thu Mar 17, 2022 1:21 pm
Who Dee Knee wrote:
Thu Mar 17, 2022 4:09 am
I don’t know how realistic it is, but I just did another simulation.

No one at 20 I had to have, and Lions offered me 32, 66 and 97 for 20 and 241.

32 Trent McDuffie
52 Travis Jones
66 Jalen Tolbert
84 Skyy Moore
97 Daniel Faalele

I only went three rounds deep.
While I LOVE the idea of trading back to get more spins at this deep draft wheel, I feel there's a decent chance that McDuffie won't be there at 20, much less 32.
Almost certainly right. You'd be down to Elam, maybe out of positional value at all by 32. I'd put some money on it.
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Post by DP39 » Thu Mar 17, 2022 6:07 pm

Ice wrote:
Thu Mar 17, 2022 6:01 pm
DP39 wrote:
Thu Mar 17, 2022 1:21 pm
Who Dee Knee wrote:
Thu Mar 17, 2022 4:09 am
I don’t know how realistic it is, but I just did another simulation.

No one at 20 I had to have, and Lions offered me 32, 66 and 97 for 20 and 241.

32 Trent McDuffie
52 Travis Jones
66 Jalen Tolbert
84 Skyy Moore
97 Daniel Faalele

I only went three rounds deep.
While I LOVE the idea of trading back to get more spins at this deep draft wheel, I feel there's a decent chance that McDuffie won't be there at 20, much less 32.
Almost certainly right. You'd be down to Elam, maybe out of positional value at all by 32. I'd put some money on it.
CB may not be a major 1st round need now. We just re-signed Spoon for two years.

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Post by Scunge » Fri Mar 18, 2022 3:12 am

DP39 wrote:
Thu Mar 17, 2022 6:07 pm
Ice wrote:
Thu Mar 17, 2022 6:01 pm
DP39 wrote:
Thu Mar 17, 2022 1:21 pm


While I LOVE the idea of trading back to get more spins at this deep draft wheel, I feel there's a decent chance that McDuffie won't be there at 20, much less 32.
Almost certainly right. You'd be down to Elam, maybe out of positional value at all by 32. I'd put some money on it.
CB may not be a major 1st round need now. We just re-signed Spoon for two years.
But at some point you have to think long term and beyond just this year. Cam Sutton is in the last year of his contract. If Wallace and Spoon are your starters what do you do next season when they both are entering the final years of their contracts for 2023?

A first round CB, a legitimate talent who would be under your control for 5 years? 4 years and that 5th year option would be really great and save you money until that 2nd contract is due.

The way I look at roster building and rebuilding this Steeler team is that no position is safe, stack a position of strength if need be.

We gave Okorafora a 3 year, 29.5 million contract but if Trevor Penning, a true nasty run blocking Right Tackle is there I would take him.

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Post by SteelerDayTrader » Fri Mar 18, 2022 3:31 am

How many plays in a game does a CB really influence ??

Does a CB have much effect on the middle of the field or the other side of the field ??

How much effect do proven top CBs really have on the game in a league so drastically weighted towards the offense ??

Do you really have faith in the Steelers to draft develop and utilize a rd 1 CB ??

If they do end up being great in 4-5 years when hopefully the rest of the team might have a chance at rebuilding by then will the Steelers pay them big $$$$ to stay ??


Truthfully I’d rather draft a RB as bad as that sounds. At least you’d have the foundations of a pretty good mismatch unit which the Steelers desperately need
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Post by franco32 » Fri Mar 18, 2022 12:14 pm

I agree on BPA. But, SS is still a gaping hole. WR is a real problem too. CB isn't as big an issue as some areas.

Plus you also have QB :) I have the sneaking suspicion that they are still going QB at 1.20. We just have to pray there is a run on QBs before that.

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Post by SteelerDayTrader » Fri Mar 18, 2022 12:25 pm

franco32 wrote:
Fri Mar 18, 2022 12:14 pm
I agree on BPA. But, SS is still a gaping hole. WR is a real problem too. CB isn't as big an issue as some areas.

Plus you also have QB :) I have the sneaking suspicion that they are still going QB at 1.20. We just have to pray there is a run on QBs before that.
Im beginning to think QB is done for 2022 at least in the top rounds
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Post by Steelcody7 » Fri Mar 18, 2022 12:50 pm

franco32 wrote:
Fri Mar 18, 2022 12:14 pm
I agree on BPA. But, SS is still a gaping hole. WR is a real problem too. CB isn't as big an issue as some areas.

Plus you also have QB :) I have the sneaking suspicion that they are still going QB at 1.20. We just have to pray there is a run on QBs before that.
Drafting a QB would be stupid when we just signed a guy the Steelers obviously beleive can play and they like Rudolph. I would much rather go after a DT, WR or Safety.

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Post by franco32 » Fri Mar 18, 2022 12:56 pm

If Willis or Pickett fall, I still think they would take them. I would lose my mind if we trade draft capital for a QB.

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Post by Ice » Fri Mar 18, 2022 12:57 pm

I'm not convinced on exactly how much they like Rudolph. Trubisky as a bridge, Willis at 1.20 and Skyy Moore in R2 is probably the NHALS dream scenario at this point, though he does seem to like Jordan Davis a lot, too. Wonder what he'd do if Willis and Davis were both on the board at 1.20.
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Post by franco32 » Fri Mar 18, 2022 2:00 pm

Willis at 1.20 is the doomsday scenario. I can live with Pickett, but for some reason I keep seeing Tommy Maddox when I watch him and not Dan Marino as some people like to say. If we pick him, I hope I'm wrong.

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Post by COR-TEN » Fri Mar 18, 2022 3:56 pm

Anybody know what happened to Carlos Davis? Is he a bust? Steelers have 75% win rate when he plays. 8-)
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Post by Steelafan77 » Fri Mar 18, 2022 4:10 pm

@20 I like either Brisker, Hill or Pitre. All three have experience playing different roles in various defensive alignments while being successful in them. Of these candidates I'm leaning towards Brisker. That said, I'm gonna venture to guess Pitre could be Steelers BPA target.

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Post by Kodiak. » Fri Mar 18, 2022 4:42 pm

jewelsongs wrote:
Thu Mar 17, 2022 2:31 am
Trade up and get Davis. Imagine a front 7 with Cam, Tuitt, Davis, Watt, Highsmith and Jack. Opposing QBs will be eating dirt all night.
I'll say it again: trade Tuitt to move-up to get Davis!
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Post by franco32 » Sat Mar 19, 2022 12:46 pm

We can't afford a trade up. Too many holes to fill and the WR room is looking horrific right now.

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Post by SteelerDayTrader » Sat Mar 19, 2022 1:04 pm

Davis is gonna be great. I highly doubt he gets to 20

Pretty good year for NTs fortunately

I’d like to see the Steelers go SS/OLB in 1/2 and target the 3rd for a NT and target the 4th for a WR

That leaves 6 7 7 for RB PR and OL
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Post by jebrick » Sat Mar 19, 2022 1:56 pm

franco32 wrote:
Fri Mar 18, 2022 2:00 pm
Willis at 1.20 is the doomsday scenario. I can live with Pickett, but for some reason I keep seeing Tommy Maddox when I watch him and not Dan Marino as some people like to say. If we pick him, I hope I'm wrong.
Willis being available at 20 would make my sphincter pinch knowing Tomlin would make that pick.
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Post by alancac98 » Sat Mar 19, 2022 2:07 pm

SteelerDayTrader wrote:
Sat Mar 19, 2022 1:04 pm
Davis is gonna be great. I highly doubt he gets to 20

Pretty good year for NTs fortunately

I’d like to see the Steelers go SS/OLB in 1/2 and target the 3rd for a NT and target the 4th for a WR

That leaves 6 7 7 for RB PR and OL
There's always several ways to go about building a team. I might be crazy but I would still love to see OL and WR in rounds 1 and 2 (Unless Davis is there and you sprint to the podium!!!). For me. I want to build the offense to be a beast in the run game but also a stick of dynamite in the pass game. If you have a hell of an offense putting points on the board while also running clock, the Defense will remain fresh and not see the field as much. Personally, I would double dip on WR in the first 3 rounds, then hit defense with the rest (maybe another OL in later rounds). I think we should still be looking in FA to fill some defensive needs/depth. JMO

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Post by Scunge » Sat Mar 19, 2022 11:39 pm

COR-TEN wrote:
Fri Mar 18, 2022 3:56 pm
Anybody know what happened to Carlos Davis? Is he a bust? Steelers have 75% win rate when he plays. 8-)

Oh, he is still on the team COR-TEN, but wait, it gets better, we even have his twin brother Khalil on the team too!

20-0? Perfect season coming up?

This was one of my rants a couple weeks ago, this constant signing of family members. You have Carlos and Khalil Davis, TJ And Derek Watt, Terrell and Trey Edmunds, Jarron and Jamir Jones.

And this offseason you have dumbasses clamoring for us to sign Cam Heyward's little brother Connor and to draft Carnell Lake's son Qentin. Enough already, just say no to nepotism!!!!

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Post by Kodiak. » Sun Mar 20, 2022 12:18 am

This team's track record at drafting and developing corners is pretty abysmal. WR, NT/DT, SS and RB are big needs. But it's all about attrition football, baby!

Tomlin's buddy said he didn't want to start over with a rookie QB, and they signed Trubisky. I'm not worried about taking a QB early in the draft, even if one falls to us.
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Post by Jobu » Sun Mar 20, 2022 12:41 am

Scunge wrote:
Sat Mar 19, 2022 11:39 pm
COR-TEN wrote:
Fri Mar 18, 2022 3:56 pm
Anybody know what happened to Carlos Davis? Is he a bust? Steelers have 75% win rate when he plays. 8-)

Oh, he is still on the team COR-TEN, but wait, it gets better, we even have his twin brother Khalil on the team too!

20-0? Perfect season coming up?

This was one of my rants a couple weeks ago, this constant signing of family members. You have Carlos and Khalil Davis, TJ And Derek Watt, Terrell and Trey Edmunds, Jarron and Jamir Jones.

And this offseason you have dumbasses clamoring for us to sign Cam Heyward's little brother Connor and to draft Carnell Lake's son Qentin. Enough already, just say no to nepotism!!!!
It’s not just the roster…The organization was built on nepotism. :lol:

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