How many QB failures til the Steelers make serious changes ??

[SteelerDayTrader]

How many QBs will the Steelers run through before they make wholesale changes to their approach ??

Or does it rest with Deuce ??

Well we know they are going to roll with Trubisky and Pickett for several years even if they are worse than mediocre. Jarvis Jones played out his contract after all.

How many QB failures after them will cause a big shift ??

I’m gonna say AT LEAST 2 more after them

Going to be a LOOOOONG couple of decades

[Pabst]

Jarvis Jones played out his contract after all.

1. First round contracts are fully guaranteed. Cutting him would have meant eating the rest of his cap hit

2. OLB depth was garbage at that point. Remember that he was benched in favor of Anthony Chickillo and Arthur Moats at various times

3. They didn't exercise his 5th year option, and drafted edge rushers in 2015 and 2017

[Jobu]

First round contracts are fully guaranteed.

I don’t think this is true.

[Pabst]

First round contracts are fully guaranteed.

I don’t think this is true.

It is according to spotrac: https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/pittsburgh- ... ris-72404/

[Jobu]

First round contracts are fully guaranteed.

I don’t think this is true.

It is according to spotrac: https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/pittsburgh- ... ris-72404/

That’s Najee’s specific contract. There are guaranteed contracts, but those are on an individual basis.

[Pabst]

I don’t think this is true.

It is according to spotrac: https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/pittsburgh- ... ris-72404/

That’s Najee’s specific contract. There are guaranteed contracts, but those are on an individual basis.

It's the same with Jarvis:

https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/arizona-car ... nes-12297/

[Pabst]

I don’t think this is true.

It is according to spotrac: https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/pittsburgh- ... ris-72404/

That’s Najee’s specific contract. There are guaranteed contracts, but those are on an individual basis.

Also: https://www.nationalfootballpost.com/20 ... kie-deals/

[JackLambert58]

How many QBs will the Steelers run through before they make wholesale changes to their approach ??

Or does it rest with Deuce ??

Well we know they are going to roll with Trubisky and Pickett for several years even if they are worse than mediocre. Jarvis Jones played out his contract after all.

How many QB failures after them will cause a big shift ??

I’m gonna say AT LEAST 2 more after them

Going to be a LOOOOONG couple of decades

So both Trubisky and Pickett haven't taken one snap behind center in a Steelers uniform and you're already deeming them failures? Must be nice to be Nostradamus.

[Jobu]

It is according to spotrac: https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/pittsburgh- ... ris-72404/

That’s Najee’s specific contract. There are guaranteed contracts, but those are on an individual basis.

Also: https://www.nationalfootballpost.com/20 ... kie-deals/

Again, specific contracts negotiated to be fully guaranteed. Certainly most first round contracts are now fully guaranteed, but nothing in the CBA mandates it. Organizations are not required to give fully guaranteed contracts to first rounders.
https://en.as.com/nfl/nfl-draft-which-p ... utType=amp

For the past two draft classes, the entire contracts of the first 24 picks were fully guaranteed. This year we should expect this to be similar or possibly extended to cover the entire first round.

[Pabst]

That’s Najee’s specific contract. There are guaranteed contracts, but those are on an individual basis.

Also: https://www.nationalfootballpost.com/20 ... kie-deals/

Again, specific contracts negotiated to be fully guaranteed. Certainly most first round contracts are now fully guaranteed, but nothing in the CBA mandates it. Organizations are not required to give fully guaranteed contracts to first rounders.
https://en.as.com/nfl/nfl-draft-which-p ... utType=amp

For the past two draft classes, the entire contracts of the first 24 picks were fully guaranteed. This year we should expect this to be similar or possibly extended to cover the entire first round.

So technically, they're not guaranteed, but in practice all NFL teams are guaranteeing rookie contracts for the first 2/3 (or so) of first round picks.

Looking at 2013, the next two picks (Eric Reid and Justin Pugh) were fully guaranteed deals. Ironically, the latter half of the 2013 First Round turned out to be significantly better.

[Jobu]

Also: https://www.nationalfootballpost.com/20 ... kie-deals/

Again, specific contracts negotiated to be fully guaranteed. Certainly most first round contracts are now fully guaranteed, but nothing in the CBA mandates it. Organizations are not required to give fully guaranteed contracts to first rounders.
https://en.as.com/nfl/nfl-draft-which-p ... utType=amp

For the past two draft classes, the entire contracts of the first 24 picks were fully guaranteed. This year we should expect this to be similar or possibly extended to cover the entire first round.

So technically, they're not guaranteed, but in practice all NFL teams are guaranteeing rookie contracts for the first 2/3 (or so) of first round picks.

Looking at 2013, the next two picks (Eric Reid and Justin Pugh) were fully guaranteed deals. Ironically, the latter half of the 2013 First Round turned out to be significantly better.

Yep and yep. Personally, I think guaranteeing first round contracts is a good faith practice. I also think, on the heels of the DeShaun Watson deal, that we are going to see more and more fully guaranteed deals in general. I don’t know if that’s a good thing or not, but probably won’t affect the Steelers MO much. Rarely do they not honor the terms of a players deal…David DeCastro aside.

[Kodiak.]

How many QBs will the Steelers run through before they make wholesale changes to their approach ??

What does a good approach to finding a QB look like, and who's doing it that way?

Anyway, I'm on record for the 2024 draft. Unless they hit gold with the new GM and he's able to override and cover up Tomlin's stupidity, the present downward trend will accelerate over the next 3 years until Tomlin is finally, mercifully, fired.

Most optimistic I can be is rather than lame duck Tomlin in 2024, he gets axed after 2023.

[Gonzo]

to be honst i have more hope for trubiksy than pickett

[El Kabong]

How many QBs will the Steelers run through before they make wholesale changes to their approach ??

Or does it rest with Deuce ??

Well we know they are going to roll with Trubisky and Pickett for several years even if they are worse than mediocre. Jarvis Jones played out his contract after all.

How many QB failures after them will cause a big shift ??

I’m gonna say AT LEAST 2 more after them

Going to be a LOOOOONG couple of decades

CHILL. THE. FUCK. OUT.