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Post by Stosh-67 » Sun Sep 11, 2022 10:39 pm

The Pittsburgh Steelers believe star pass-rusher and reigning NFL Defensive Player of the Year T.J. Watt suffered a torn pectoral during Sunday's 23-20 overtime win against the Bengals in Cincinnati, a source told ESPN's Adam Schefter.

Watt is scheduled to undergo scans Monday to confirm diagnosis, the source said.

https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/345 ... e-injuries


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Post by SteelerDayTrader » Sun Sep 11, 2022 10:44 pm

Ugh 😢

He was off to a great start……
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Post by Stosh-67 » Sun Sep 11, 2022 10:46 pm

He makes watching defense soo much fun.
Let's hope for the best
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Post by SteelPro » Sun Sep 11, 2022 10:51 pm

I believe his brother’s first major injury was a torn pec.
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Post by Steeldrama » Sun Sep 11, 2022 10:53 pm

Football is a violent game
Injuries…even season ending ones….can happen to any player on any play
Torn ACLs and epidemic at all levels of football

However as I’ve said before genetics is undefeated

Like brother JJ, injures becoming a trend with TJ

I appreciate the all out hustle that can certainly lead to injury but these soft tissue injuries seem more related to overtraining and consuming gawd knows what supplements year after year to get those big muscles

Those ripped physiques just not translating to staying healthy on the football field for the Watt brothers and fellow body builders like Christian McCaffery

Get well soon TJ
Hopefully I’m wrong and not on same injury riddled path as brother JJ

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Post by Stallworth16 » Sun Sep 11, 2022 10:54 pm

Seems unlikely, but maybe the MRI will have less than terrible news.

Sports doctor talks about TJ Watt injury:
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=VnJra2HygcA
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Post by SteelPro » Sun Sep 11, 2022 10:55 pm

SteelPro wrote:
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I believe his brother’s first major injury was a torn pec.
I looked it up. In 2019 JJ tore his pec in week 8. He returned for the Texans wild card playoff game.
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Post by SteelerDayTrader » Sun Sep 11, 2022 10:57 pm

Steeldrama wrote:
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I appreciate the all out hustle that can certainly lead to injury but these soft tissue injuries seem more related to overtraining and consuming gawd knows what supplements year after year to get those big muscles
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Post by LakecrestSteeler » Sun Sep 11, 2022 11:18 pm

Steeldrama wrote:
Sun Sep 11, 2022 10:53 pm
Football is a violent game
Injuries…even season ending ones….can happen to any player on any play
Torn ACLs and epidemic at all levels of football

However as I’ve said before genetics is undefeated

Like brother JJ, injures becoming a trend with TJ

I appreciate the all out hustle that can certainly lead to injury but these soft tissue injuries seem more related to overtraining and consuming gawd knows what supplements year after year to get those big muscles

Those ripped physiques just not translating to staying healthy on the football field for the Watt brothers and fellow body builders like Christian McCaffery

Get well soon TJ
Hopefully I’m wrong and not on same injury riddled path as brother JJ

Go Najee
Go Kenny
Go Steelers
I don’t think of TJ as a freak weight lifter. I am sure he does lift a bunch though. I think this is a technique injury. Aaron Smith, Heyward, JJ….it most likely has to do with swim techniques putting the muscle in a strained position at a moment of significant force.

Heyward healed and has improved ever since. Maybe he adjusted his technique.

If I had to guess from my power recliner, I’d say it has to do with getting the arms above breast level during swim techniques. The higher the arms get the more stress.

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Post by franco32 » Sun Sep 11, 2022 11:32 pm

I'm praying he doesn't need surgery. But even if he does, as you mentioned, JJ came back to play 9 weeks after his surgery. Anything is possible.

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Post by Baltostiller » Sun Sep 11, 2022 11:45 pm

franco32 wrote:
Sun Sep 11, 2022 11:32 pm
I'm praying he doesn't need surgery. But even if he does, as you mentioned, JJ came back to play 9 weeks after his surgery. Anything is possible.
When this team is 2-7 would you come back? I think he’s done for this year.

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Post by jeemie » Sun Sep 11, 2022 11:46 pm

3 months at best.

The season at worst.

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Post by Orangesteel » Sun Sep 11, 2022 11:48 pm

How big was that Reed trade?

I mean this defense is still very good with Watt out. But the offense can’t hide in the shadows anymore.

Mitch gets one more go then it’s Kenny time. Fuck it, we’ll do it live!
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Post by Jizz Mop » Sun Sep 11, 2022 11:49 pm

Orangesteel wrote:
Sun Sep 11, 2022 11:48 pm
How big was that Reed trade?

I mean this defense is still very good with Watt out. But the offense can’t hide in the shadows anymore.

Mitch gets one more go then it’s Kenny time. Fuck it, we’ll do it live!
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Post by Baltostiller » Sun Sep 11, 2022 11:50 pm

Orangesteel wrote:
Sun Sep 11, 2022 11:48 pm
How big was that Reed trade?

I mean this defense is still very good with Watt out. But the offense can’t hide in the shadows anymore.

Mitch gets one more go then it’s Kenny time. Fuck it, we’ll do it live!
That depends. Are they still running out #55 or a traffic cone?

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Post by langer » Sun Sep 11, 2022 11:58 pm

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Post by rooneytunes » Mon Sep 12, 2022 12:15 am

Can we ever just win and enjoy it. Fucking maddening. Every game, even wins, are soul sucking battles to the death. My God, all they needed was one 1st down after the 4th down stop. What do they do? Offensive Line gets Najeh killed, happy feet misses a pass, run 16 seconds off the clock, setting up the drive where our best player is injured probably for the season.

Just so stupid.
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Post by JJT07 » Mon Sep 12, 2022 1:24 am

rooneytunes wrote:
Mon Sep 12, 2022 12:15 am
Can we ever just win and enjoy it. Fucking maddening. Every game, even wins, are soul sucking battles to the death. My God, all they needed was one 1st down after the 4th down stop. What do they do? Offensive Line gets Najeh killed, happy feet misses a pass, run 16 seconds off the clock, setting up the drive where our best player is injured probably for the season.

Just so stupid.
That was such a weird sequence. The Najeh injury was a free TO, then we throw the ball stupidly, another free TO.

Glad they won. Offense obviously has a ton of work to do.

Hoping we can be in the mix and maybe get TJ back by mid December.

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Post by Stosh-67 » Mon Sep 12, 2022 1:46 am

Defense on the field for almost 44 minutes....
We are lucky we did not lose more guys.

Always tuff getting out of week 1 without major injuries...
Being first full speed, heavy load game for players.

Our Offense can not keep punishing our defense
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Post by Defense » Mon Sep 12, 2022 2:26 am

Question

Assuming Watt is gone for some time, is there anybody outside the roster that can help us , via trade, unsigned veteran, etc.

We obviously can't replace Watt or his production, but maybe by committee there is some hope.

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Post by steelmann58 » Mon Sep 12, 2022 2:32 am

Don't think there anyone on the outside maybe they look via trade but they might look at OL again need to have a ground game.

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Post by Orangesteel » Mon Sep 12, 2022 2:34 am

Defense wrote:
Mon Sep 12, 2022 2:26 am
Question

Assuming Watt is gone for some time, is there anybody outside the roster that can help us , via trade, unsigned veteran, etc.

We obviously can't replace Watt or his production, but maybe by committee there is some hope.
Can’t trade Claypool now. He’s our entire run game :lol:
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Post by tbsteel » Mon Sep 12, 2022 2:48 am

Steeldrama wrote:
Sun Sep 11, 2022 10:53 pm
Football is a violent game
Injuries…even season ending ones….can happen to any player on any play
Torn ACLs and epidemic at all levels of football

However as I’ve said before genetics is undefeated

Like brother JJ, injures becoming a trend with TJ

I appreciate the all out hustle that can certainly lead to injury but these soft tissue injuries seem more related to overtraining and consuming gawd knows what supplements year after year to get those big muscles

Those ripped physiques just not translating to staying healthy on the football field for the Watt brothers and fellow body builders like Christian McCaffery

Get well soon TJ
Hopefully I’m wrong and not on same injury riddled path as brother JJ

Go Najee
Go Kenny
Go Steelers
In 5 years he has missed 4 games total. He has been very durable.
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Post by 955876 » Mon Sep 12, 2022 3:39 am

Orangesteel wrote:
Mon Sep 12, 2022 2:34 am
Defense wrote:
Mon Sep 12, 2022 2:26 am
Question

Assuming Watt is gone for some time, is there anybody outside the roster that can help us , via trade, unsigned veteran, etc.

We obviously can't replace Watt or his production, but maybe by committee there is some hope.
Can’t trade Claypool now. He’s our entire run game :lol:
I kept thinking surely they aren’t going to hand off to Claypool again.

And yet….

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Post by Havoc » Mon Sep 12, 2022 4:00 pm

Q2 on back to back plays...

Watt beats the block gets into the backfield blows up the play destroys the ball carrier.

Watt makes the great athletic play to pull down the interception.

He single-handedly stopped their drive. We take over at our 41 and go on our lone TD drive in the game.

We might have gotten peak Watt this year. A little more dominant even than last year. Huge blow with the injury.
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Post by Jizz Mop » Mon Sep 12, 2022 5:22 pm

Anyone seeing some rumors that his injury is a partial tear?

Nothing official yet but Twitter world, accurate or inaccurate is hinting along those lines.

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Post by stillthere » Mon Sep 12, 2022 5:27 pm

Orangesteel wrote:
Sun Sep 11, 2022 11:48 pm
How big was that Reed trade?

I mean this defense is still very good with Watt out. But the offense can’t hide in the shadows anymore.

Mitch gets one more go then it’s Kenny time. Fuck it, we’ll do it live!
I don't see the team going to Kenny on the short week against Cleveland on a Thursday night. Call me crazy. The following week against NYJ with 10 days to prepare maybe but I doubt that as well.

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Post by Orangesteel » Mon Sep 12, 2022 5:30 pm

stillthere wrote:
Mon Sep 12, 2022 5:27 pm
Orangesteel wrote:
Sun Sep 11, 2022 11:48 pm
How big was that Reed trade?

I mean this defense is still very good with Watt out. But the offense can’t hide in the shadows anymore.

Mitch gets one more go then it’s Kenny time. Fuck it, we’ll do it live!
I don't see the team going to Kenny on the short week against Cleveland on a Thursday night. Call me crazy. The following week against NYJ with 10 days to prepare maybe but I doubt that as well.
I’m not opposed to them riding with Mitch a few more weeks to see if he can get into more of a groove. Cincy is a very good team and Mitch made a few plays. It’s the bad reads, bad technique and poor pocket presence that needs to change now.

NE lacks some talent but they are (of course) coached exceptionally well. Mitch needs to show up this week in front of the home crowd. I look forward to it.
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Post by stillthere » Mon Sep 12, 2022 5:31 pm

955876 wrote:
Mon Sep 12, 2022 3:39 am
Orangesteel wrote:
Mon Sep 12, 2022 2:34 am
Defense wrote:
Mon Sep 12, 2022 2:26 am
Question

Assuming Watt is gone for some time, is there anybody outside the roster that can help us , via trade, unsigned veteran, etc.

We obviously can't replace Watt or his production, but maybe by committee there is some hope.
Can’t trade Claypool now. He’s our entire run game :lol:
I kept thinking surely they aren’t going to hand off to Claypool again.

And yet….
2 things
A - it was working for yards so I am not going to complain about it.
B - For the next few weeks every time Claypool goes into motion behind the line the entire defense is gonna think he is going to get the ball and that should help allow for players to run deeper & longer routes.

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Post by jeemie » Mon Sep 12, 2022 5:41 pm

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