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Tomlin week 6 press conference

Post by stillthere » Tue Oct 11, 2022 6:53 pm

some things I took away from his statements
- We're not going to cure our ills in one or a couple of good days or a good plan or a good performance.
So basically I take that as there is a long road ahead of this team so don't expect too much going forward
-We didn't dig ourselves into this circumstance in one day and we are not going to dig ourselves out of it in one day.
If you could see the problem developing over a period of time why was nothing done to fix the problem?
-It's probably easier to point to the things that happened positively than the myriad of things that didn't go well
No shit! We can look at the 6 good plays the team had and say good job as opposed to holding players accountable for the 40 minutes of terrible tape put out.

This is where the audio cut out of press conference and basically ended probably less than 4 minutes into it. Why do I assume that the technical difficulties were not accidental?

presser resumes about 5 minutes after audio went down.
Tomlin goes on to praise the Buccaneers

Sutton - hamstring injury
Fitzpatrick - knee issue
Wallace - concussion protocol
Witherspoon - hamstring issue
Okunjobi - back issue
Muuth - concussion protocol
Gentry - knee issue
Adams - hip issue
Participation will be the guide as to availability

Tom Brady is going to be shredding a defensive backfield that is probably going to be missing at least 2 starters if not more counting nickel and dime packages.
-We are not going to seek comfort in that component of it, when you have an opportunity to put together a plan based on known circumstances.........
"Word Salad Mode" activated.
Often times we say in the NFL that there is not a lot of difference between a starter and a non starter other than opportunity.
That is some fairly ripe BS there. Fucking guys in a living room with a cold beer in there hand can tell quite often there is a huge difference between a starting caliber player and a warm body with a jersey on. While it may have been true on Bill Cowher's teams that a backup and a starter may be similar in skill it is not the case with Mike Tomlin's teams. The drop off from starter to backup is usually pretty big. Unless we are talking about going from "starter" Mitch Trubisky to "backup" Kenny Pickett.
Cliches are cool but guys that make the most of their opportunities make cliches real
Word Salad Mode re-activated.

When asked if he may need to get involved with the offense Tomlin states he is not running and hiding he is and has been involved in the offense. That may be why the offense has been below the line if you will for a time now.

There is more word salad to parse through but Coach Tomlin didn't make any statements about adjustments that need to be made. He just said that they will roll up their sleeves and go to work this week. Tomlin will not seek comfort. I did like that during the Q& A he said that they were thinned out due to attrition Larry O could not finish the game but just 3 minutes before he stated that there is not much difference in the NFL between starter and back up other than opportunity to play. That sounds like a contradiction to this layman's untrained ear.
-Our windshield is bigger than our rear view. We can waste a lot of time thinking about things that have transpired.
Is it? Seems to me that the rear view mirror holds more of the good Tomlin has done unfortunately that was in 2008/09 back when Ben won some playoff games for Coach.


Watch from link below if you care to.
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Post by Orangesteel » Tue Oct 11, 2022 7:13 pm

Bravo, stillthere. I designate you as the Tomlin Tuesday Presser recap guy from now on. Some much needed LOLzing…
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Post by ToddHaleysNineIron » Tue Oct 11, 2022 7:14 pm

"Next man up" is fine for the player, but a terrible idea for a coach.

My question is - does Tomlin and his coaching staff see the other teams replacements as guys where there is no difference between starter and backup? It seems this team doesn't attack weak spots of opposing teams... are opponents given far too much "next man up" respect?

The Jets had what, their 4th and 5th tackles playing? Was anything done to try and exploit that? Or was it more "do what we do" bullshit?
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Post by Stillchest » Tue Oct 11, 2022 7:18 pm

stillthere wrote:
Tue Oct 11, 2022 6:53 pm
some things I took away from his statements
- We're not going to cure our ills in one or a couple of good days or a good plan or a good performance.
So basically I take that as there is a long road ahead of this team so don't expect too much going forward
-We didn't dig ourselves into this circumstance in one day and we are not going to dig ourselves out of it in one day.
If you could see the problem developing over a period of time why was nothing done to fix the problem?
-It's probably easier to point to the things that happened positively than the myriad of things that didn't go well
No shit! We can look at the 6 good plays the team had and say good job as opposed to holding players accountable for the 40 minutes of terrible tape put out.

This is where the audio cut out of press conference and basically ended probably less than 4 minutes into it. Why do I assume that the technical difficulties were not accidental?

presser resumes about 5 minutes after audio went down.
Tomlin goes on to praise the Buccaneers

Sutton - hamstring injury
Fitzpatrick - knee issue
Wallace - concussion protocol
Witherspoon - hamstring issue
Okunjobi - back issue
Muuth - concussion protocol
Gentry - knee issue
Adams - hip issue
Participation will be the guide as to availability

Tom Brady is going to be shredding a defensive backfield that is probably going to be missing at least 2 starters if not more counting nickel and dime packages.
-We are not going to seek comfort in that component of it, when you have an opportunity to put together a plan based on known circumstances.........
"Word Salad Mode" activated.
Often times we say in the NFL that there is not a lot of difference between a starter and a non starter other than opportunity.
That is some fairly ripe BS there. Fucking guys in a living room with a cold beer in there hand can tell quite often there is a huge difference between a starting caliber player and a warm body with a jersey on. While it may have been true on Bill Cowher's teams that a backup and a starter may be similar in skill it is not the case with Mike Tomlin's teams. The drop off from starter to backup is usually pretty big. Unless we are talking about going from "starter" Mitch Trubisky to "backup" Kenny Pickett.
Cliches are cool but guys that make the most of their opportunities make cliches real
Word Salad Mode re-activated.

When asked if he may need to get involved with the offense Tomlin states he is not running and hiding he is and has been involved in the offense. That may be why the offense has been below the line if you will for a time now.

There is more word salad to parse through but Coach Tomlin didn't make any statements about adjustments that need to be made. He just said that they will roll up their sleeves and go to work this week. Tomlin will not seek comfort. I did like that during the Q& A he said that they were thinned out due to attrition Larry O could not finish the game but just 3 minutes before he stated that there is not much difference in the NFL between starter and back up other than opportunity to play. That sounds like a contradiction to this layman's untrained ear.
-Our windshield is bigger than our rear view. We can waste a lot of time thinking about things that have transpired.
Is it? Seems to me that the rear view mirror holds more of the good Tomlin has done unfortunately that was in 2008/09 back when Ben won some playoff games for Coach.


Watch from link below if you care to.
https://twitter.com/i/broadcasts/1OwGWwBbOnkGQ
Thank you for posting the PC gist.

Don’t forget, 2008/2009, Tomlin was still riding the coattails of Dick LeBeau, who has forgotten more about defensive schematics today, at 85 years of age, than Tomlin will ever know in his lifetime.

Also, the majority of that successful team was carry over players from Cowher’s regime.

Tomlin was a failure as DC for the Vikings in 2006 but his line of bullshit was good enough to convince the virtue signaling Rooney’s.

We as fans are in Hell for a long while.

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Post by Orangesteel » Tue Oct 11, 2022 7:18 pm

Good points NineIron. I for one do not understand the Malik Reed trade. So against two 3rd string tackles he is practically invisible against the Jets. And I get that the Bills are good but do you remember seeing our edge guys, well really any defensive player, do anything of value last week?

The bills are the best team in the league but they’ve lost a game to Tua Tagliovola. Soooo what’s out excuse? Oh that’s right we suck.
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Post by langer » Tue Oct 11, 2022 7:29 pm

-Our windshield is bigger than our rear view. We can waste a lot of time thinking about things that have transpired.
This guy is such a shitbag.

I mean AT SOME POINT should he analyze the past...

I understand, he is just saying stuff so he can keep his super secret plans in super double extra secret so no one FINDS OUT his super great super secret plans.

Holy fuck what a disaster.
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Post by Kodiak. » Tue Oct 11, 2022 8:09 pm

It's pretty simple. For Mediocre Mike, 2 HOFers is the difference between winning half your games...and hardly any.
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Post by beerbrother » Tue Oct 11, 2022 8:28 pm

langer wrote:
Tue Oct 11, 2022 7:29 pm
-Our windshield is bigger than our rear view. We can waste a lot of time thinking about things that have transpired.
This guy is such a shitbag.

I mean AT SOME POINT should he analyze the past...

I understand, he is just saying stuff so he can keep his super secret plans in super double extra secret so no one FINDS OUT his super great super secret plans.

Holy fuck what a disaster.
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Post by kramer » Tue Oct 11, 2022 8:56 pm

stillthere wrote:
Tue Oct 11, 2022 6:53 pm
some things I took away from his statements
- We're not going to cure our ills in one or a couple of good days or a good plan or a good performance.
So basically I take that as there is a long road ahead of this team so don't expect too much going forward
-We didn't dig ourselves into this circumstance in one day and we are not going to dig ourselves out of it in one day.
If you could see the problem developing over a period of time why was nothing done to fix the problem?
-It's probably easier to point to the things that happened positively than the myriad of things that didn't go well
No shit! We can look at the 6 good plays the team had and say good job as opposed to holding players accountable for the 40 minutes of terrible tape put out.

This is where the audio cut out of press conference and basically ended probably less than 4 minutes into it. Why do I assume that the technical difficulties were not accidental?

presser resumes about 5 minutes after audio went down.
Tomlin goes on to praise the Buccaneers

Sutton - hamstring injury
Fitzpatrick - knee issue
Wallace - concussion protocol
Witherspoon - hamstring issue
Okunjobi - back issue
Muuth - concussion protocol
Gentry - knee issue
Adams - hip issue
Participation will be the guide as to availability

Tom Brady is going to be shredding a defensive backfield that is probably going to be missing at least 2 starters if not more counting nickel and dime packages.
-We are not going to seek comfort in that component of it, when you have an opportunity to put together a plan based on known circumstances.........
"Word Salad Mode" activated.
Often times we say in the NFL that there is not a lot of difference between a starter and a non starter other than opportunity.
That is some fairly ripe BS there. Fucking guys in a living room with a cold beer in there hand can tell quite often there is a huge difference between a starting caliber player and a warm body with a jersey on. While it may have been true on Bill Cowher's teams that a backup and a starter may be similar in skill it is not the case with Mike Tomlin's teams. The drop off from starter to backup is usually pretty big. Unless we are talking about going from "starter" Mitch Trubisky to "backup" Kenny Pickett.
Cliches are cool but guys that make the most of their opportunities make cliches real
Word Salad Mode re-activated.

When asked if he may need to get involved with the offense Tomlin states he is not running and hiding he is and has been involved in the offense. That may be why the offense has been below the line if you will for a time now.

There is more word salad to parse through but Coach Tomlin didn't make any statements about adjustments that need to be made. He just said that they will roll up their sleeves and go to work this week. Tomlin will not seek comfort. I did like that during the Q& A he said that they were thinned out due to attrition Larry O could not finish the game but just 3 minutes before he stated that there is not much difference in the NFL between starter and back up other than opportunity to play. That sounds like a contradiction to this layman's untrained ear.
-Our windshield is bigger than our rear view. We can waste a lot of time thinking about things that have transpired.
Is it? Seems to me that the rear view mirror holds more of the good Tomlin has done unfortunately that was in 2008/09 back when Ben won some playoff games for Coach.


Watch from link below if you care to.
https://twitter.com/i/broadcasts/1OwGWwBbOnkGQ
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Post by 955876 » Tue Oct 11, 2022 8:57 pm

I don’t like to vomit. So I refrain from listening to this cunt speak as much as possible.

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Post by franco32 » Tue Oct 11, 2022 11:51 pm

Tomlin isn't going anywhere. Art 2 is chickenshit and doesn't have the balls to make the move because of the PR machine backlash.

God I wish Drunkenmiller had bought the Steelers back in 2008.

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Post by langer » Wed Oct 12, 2022 1:11 am

Cliches are cool but guys that make the most of their opportunities make cliches real
I think I might say this sometime and see what people think. In the middle of a conversation, just rip this loud wet shart of bullshit out and then see their reactions.
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Post by stillthere » Wed Oct 12, 2022 1:26 am

Without getting political today's presser sounded like listening to the word salad served up on the regular by Karine Jean-Pierre. Trying to improvise answers that cannot be improvised.

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Post by Stosh-67 » Wed Oct 12, 2022 2:20 am

stillthere wrote:
Wed Oct 12, 2022 1:26 am
Without getting political today's presser sounded like listening to the word salad served up on the regular by Karine Jean-Pierre. Trying to improvise answers that cannot be improvised.
No politics.
Tomlins word salad vomit should take a que from Kamala...

She thinks she is sounding smarter by now speaking slower and emphasizing the end of sentences. Dumbest, highest appointed official in this countries history.

I really believe he spends time on thinking of new, catchy, phrases.
If he spent more time on film, scheme, Game planning, play design, play call, coaching up, teaching technique, etc......then he would not be the coach of one of the worst teams in football. Most over rated coaches in sports
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Post by stillthere » Wed Oct 12, 2022 2:51 am

Stosh-67 wrote:
Wed Oct 12, 2022 2:20 am

I really believe he spends time on thinking of new, catchy, phrases.
If he spent more time on film, scheme, Game planning, play design, play call, coaching up, teaching technique, etc......then he would not be the coach of one of the worst teams in football. Most over rated coaches in sports
The scary part about the highlighted red part is it may be true.

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Post by o'donnell » Wed Oct 12, 2022 5:46 am

That's why he was hired guys. It's the only reason he was hired, well other than the visually obvious, He's not a coach and never has been. He wasn't even allowed to coach at all when Arians and Lebeau were here.

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Post by langer » Wed Oct 12, 2022 8:57 am

Cam might be jumping off the SS Coach Mike cruise ship to nowhere.

https://www.audacy.com/937thefan/sports ... on-twitter
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Post by Professor Half Wit » Wed Oct 12, 2022 10:42 am

langer wrote:
Wed Oct 12, 2022 8:57 am
Cam might be jumping off the SS Coach Mike cruise ship to nowhere.

https://www.audacy.com/937thefan/sports ... on-twitter
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Post by ToddHaleysNineIron » Wed Oct 12, 2022 11:16 am

This isn't like a "just this year" type of thing... how many times have teams literally brought in guys off the street that week to play on their offensive line, and everyone begins to salivate what the Steelers healthy d-line and linebackers are going to do... only to watch the other teams offense seemingly not miss a beat?

Do these coaches gameplan around the deficiencies of the other team at all? When the Steelers lost Edmunds against the Jets, the Jets quickly started to exploit that the Steelers could not go dime... and they marched up and down the field. I get the feeling that if the Steelers were playing the Steelers... we would have seen runs on 1st and 2nd down in nearly all situations.

Everything... and I mean everything... they do is living in their fears.
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Post by Ice » Wed Oct 12, 2022 1:27 pm

Depressing read, can only imagine the full listen. Thanks for suffering through it and recapping for the greater good.
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Post by anpsteel » Wed Oct 12, 2022 1:44 pm

More than his mediocre coaching and his mediocre player and coach development, I can't stand his bullshit rhetoric.

we do not blink. we do not live in our fears. we play on violent blades of grass in stadiums, with our barn painted red because we dont have green paint

Everything he says, means practically nothing; and often times is in direct conflict to the actions he takes.


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Post by Thrillsseeker » Wed Oct 12, 2022 2:33 pm

anpsteel wrote:
Wed Oct 12, 2022 1:44 pm
More than his mediocre coaching and his mediocre player and coach development, I can't stand his bullshit rhetoric.

we do not blink. we do not live in our fears. we play on violent blades of grass in stadiums, with our barn painted red because we dont have green paint

Everything he says, means practically nothing; and often times is in direct conflict to the actions he takes.


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Post by gojira5150 » Wed Oct 12, 2022 2:42 pm

stillthere wrote:
Tue Oct 11, 2022 6:53 pm
-We are not going to seek comfort in that component of it, when you have an opportunity to put together a plan based on known circumstances.........
"Word Salad Mode" activated.
Often times we say in the NFL that there is not a lot of difference between a starter and a non starter other than opportunity.
That is some fairly ripe BS there. Fucking guys in a living room with a cold beer in there hand can tell quite often there is a huge difference between a starting caliber player and a warm body with a jersey on. While it may have been true on Bill Cowher's teams that a backup and a starter may be similar in skill it is not the case with Mike Tomlin's teams. The drop off from starter to backup is usually pretty big. Unless we are talking about going from "starter" Mitch Trubisky to "backup" Kenny Pickett.
Cliches are cool but guys that make the most of their opportunities make cliches real
Word Salad Mode re-activated.
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Post by Jobu » Wed Oct 12, 2022 2:54 pm

Do these coaches gameplan around the deficiencies of the other team at all?
I’m pretty sure that’s a big NO!
I think the Steelers run the same basic game plan out there week after week. It does not matter the opponent their scheme, or their strength and weakness.
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Post by Baltostiller » Wed Oct 12, 2022 3:02 pm

I wonder if Captain Bullshit practices these ridiculous lines on the Monday off day. I can see this idiot standing in front of a mirror reciting this garbage and thinking "that'll make me sound smart and shut them up"

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Post by DP39 » Wed Oct 12, 2022 3:04 pm

stillthere wrote:
Wed Oct 12, 2022 2:51 am
Stosh-67 wrote:
Wed Oct 12, 2022 2:20 am

I really believe he spends time on thinking of new, catchy, phrases.
If he spent more time on film, scheme, Game planning, play design, play call, coaching up, teaching technique, etc......then he would not be the coach of one of the worst teams in football. Most over rated coaches in sports
The scary part about the highlighted red part is it may be true.
It is very much true. I've been saying it on here for about a decade. Actually, I stopped saying it after a while, because I grew tired of quickly getting accused (or implied) of being racist by a number of shallow morons on here.

I've long had the advantage of knowing more about the "real" Mike Tomlin than just about anyone here. Trust me, there have been many times I wish I didn't, and plenty of times I made no comment when I knew I could've.

I'm on the record and will say it again, when he was first hired, I wished nothing but the greatest success for him -- and in turn, our Steelers. But after talking to and gathering info from folks that know him (growing up and now), listening to almost every public word that came out of his mouth, and watching him make the idiotic "in action", real-time decisions he's made over his career, I quickly realized he's nothing more than a great BS artist. He's the Wiz in the Wizard of Oz. I'm now happy to see that so many are able to witness his real identity after the curtain has been pulled back. Thank you so much for doing that, Ben!

I can only hope that this will lead to our current owner-in-charge -- the non-football knowing, (and like you say) virtue signaling Rooney, waking the F up and quickly doing what has long been needed to be done for this team to move into the modern NFL world. I have serious, serious doubts, though.

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Post by langer » Wed Oct 12, 2022 4:42 pm

Do other teams gameplan around his bullshit phrases like rip your eyelids off and so forth, if you will.

I know I would!
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Post by JackLambert58 » Wed Oct 12, 2022 8:52 pm

I think I need to update the Tomlin Bingo card with "Seek Comfort."
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Post by langer » Thu Oct 13, 2022 1:00 am

"Ukraine is a country in Europe. It exists next to another country called Russia. Russia is a bigger country. Russia is a powerful country. Russia decided to invade a smaller country called Ukraine. So basically, that's wrong."

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"I'm institutionalized, man," he joked. "I gotta have it. I just love the challenges week in and week out that this job provides: the growth in it, the collective growth, the individual growth."

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